Yamaha MT-15 V2 vs TVS Apache RTR 200 4V - Looks or Power? | MotorBeam
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.พ. 2025
- We compare the TVS Apache RTR 200 4V against the Yamaha MT-15 V2. Which do you think makes more sense for the money or is it just the looks that everyone wants!
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Which bike should we compare next? Or should we do some scooters?
Hornet 2.0 vs Pulsar N160...
What about FZ25/FZS25, the underrated king ?
Tvs Scooty Pep +
N160 vs Xtreme 160R 2022 model
Aerox comparison
The vibration part is just biased. I have RTR 2004v and riding since 1 year crossed 12k kms and touched 140 kmph and no such creepy annoying vibrations between 90 to 100 kmph. It's just refined as a yamaha. It's just a myth that Japanese bikes are better. If anyone maintains an Indian bike. It is also a long lasting machine.
Yes I am riding my bajaj platina 100 cc from past 18 years till now it's fantastic and I am riding it for long tour of 400 km near to China border in arunachal pradesh with pillion realy engine heated bcoz of uphills but no any major issues found till now it's crossed 5lakh kilometer
Did you used any if the Japanese bikes??
9K on BS 6 RTR 200 and I agree with you !!
@saikadutta6853 FYI his opinion is not baised, he is just giving his opinion on the unit that he has and not on all the units in India.
I bought Apache 200 2018 it was good at initial 6 months later so many problems vibrations electrical fails body parts rattling everything my older brother has fz 2009 and it's still runs butter smooth gears shifts are like heaven
My friend owns RTR and I own R15M but still somewhere I really love to ride RTR it's Fantastico! 🔥🔥
Conclusion:
MT-15 for showoff & Instagram
RTR 200 for real life practicality
Y.wats special in rtr
Bhai tune video nai dekha kya ? Pehle dekh leta video @@karthikraja4649
Tvs apache looks certainly better according to me . You cannot pick a winner based on looks like that. It's completely personal preference and it varies according to people.
If you're talking purely cosmetics The MT 15v2 is unmatched nothing come close to it
But in terms of overall offering and price Rtr 200 4v is just fantastic and also it looks really amazing
I don't understand why people dislike the RTR headlamp. I own a RTR 200(old headlamps) and whenever I'm behind a vehicle where I can see my headlight's reflection, I'm in love all over again. When it comes to comparison, like he says, MT15 is only for more Instagram likes and nothing more.
I own an Apache Rtr 160 4v, initially, I was afraid that my leg will hurt because of my height 6'1" but no issues I feel more committed to the bike and I love it revving up!! For long rides too, the leg doesn't feel cramped but the seat will be uncomfortable for every 60KM which can be adjusted... Also, VVA could be added for efficiency. Overall Lovely bike... Apache Forever!
u look silly riding it thats the only grip. Looks like a toy from by stander perspective. Although u are comfy on ur rtr (which means u are blessed with a good spine
I own Apache. It gives me around 48 kmpl in the city. I don't know how you have ridden it.
kmpl*
@@nirmalyamisra sorry. Thanks for the correction
I get 42+ in older bs4 easy, i ride normally, not in fuel saving mentality but also not like a maniac
So rtr 160 4V should give 55 as per your calculation? .....are you serious???
@@nitin9837560 mixed mileage 160 4v normally gives is 48 kmpl that is mixed with all conditions in mind.
If u drive it like u wish to save petrol maybe a 50 kmpl isnt difficult
All that for a much cheaper bike which comes at 20% lower price.
The biggest problem for it in mileage would be its 5 gear tranny.
48-50 for a bike which is much more vfm is much better than 55 for a bike with 6 gear , vva and when driven nicely
Actually if the Apache headlight design was from KTM or Yamaha, I'm sure everybody will be loving it 😀
No never
I hate those transformer style headlights, only immature teens would prefer them, a round headlight is sufficient…..
@@sanjayrautela2863 *personnel opinion
@@sanjayrautela2863 it's classic bike likers opinion and sporty style lovers will go for it so yeah don't confuse your style love with other style type bikes
@@sridharroman958 sure, no problem if people have taste in these sort of things lmao
IN the rate of segment there are no dual channel ABS.. But RTR 200 4V have it... Love it❤...
i will go for rtr no matter how good looking is MT, due to its smaller seat,grab rail & smaller fuel tank
Proud owner of apache rtr 2022 version ❤️
I am a owner of rtr 200
It’s not a bias thing but I think rtr is good looker yea I obey mt is better but when u look from side rtr is better
U haven’t mention about the engine cause rtr have way better mid range then mt and it can pull 2 people effortlessly and pls don’t tell mt have a good back seat
And service cost of tvs is cheaper then mt
if MT had a bit more specious seat and higher pillion seat height ...it would look more aesthetic from the side. and the rear abs is still missing. if yamaha add these things in MT I would definitely go for MT. The exhaust can design of the apache is slimmer and it has a shape to it, compared to a basic looking one in the MT.
MT is the winner only because of it's looks.
So, actually Apache is the winner here🏆
If tvs make a 6 gear setup and a perfect design that will stand out
Actually some of the Apache 200 owners are saying that no need of having 6th gear because power band is wider
@@haridharshan4616 yep it's right. I own a 2022 Apache 200 and i don't feel the lack of 6th gear once you put it on sports mode.
@@haridharshan4616 and it's true... 4 th and 5 th gears in rtr is pretty longer... Even in 4 th gear rtr can achieve 120 that's pretty good afterall
Apache got the new headlight design , this is the old one , the new one looks a lot better
4v i Best 🖤🖤🖤
Watching from Bangladesh 🇧🇩🇧🇩
Use MT for a long time, and you will understand what it is. Less power than the Apache, but the control and the non ABS rear, its a rider's bike.
The confidence you acquire while riding the MT is unmatched.
PS: I have the gen1 with a lil more power and it misses the USD. Still a better choice than the TVS family.
Yes. For the cost you get a gem of an engine. One won't understand unless they own it.
Yeah. Not only that the MT 15 2023 comes with dual channel abs
Actually I think tvs should have improved the features of the apache 2v variant and go for the same design with minor changes to differentiate between those two.
Personally I like the 2v design very much. An evergreen design by tvs.
Mt obviously looks good too.
Those mileage are good because there is no power in lower rpm (obviously) if you do some hard riding it will drink.
200 gives ample power in lower rpm
@@hiteshadhikari I'm talking about mt
@@Mluliana lol
Even with the hard riding of around 90-110 kmph it would still retain the same milega figure. My R15 V3 does give me around 50kmpl even riding at those triple digit speeds.
@@divyeshpatel1539 go to a race track and you will see what i mean
I would never pick the MT over Rtr, looks like a colourful toy , i need a bike not a rainbow on wheels
😉🥳
Yaa and we don't need toys we need a bike
Lol then get splendor not mt
Yeah a 350cc piece of junk is better
Hi great video. Love the reviews vintage classics are my favourite style it is great to see a manufacturer keeping true to the soul of motorsports 😊
.22 yers i am using different yamaha. engine is amazing. tvs cant beat.
SF 250 also available in same price as compared with MT
Sf 250 lacks in instrument cluster (advance) slipper clutch. Hard clutch.
naked one is lighter and better sitting position like MT and RTR
@@abhirkonvict1 apni apni choice hai brother....
@@thisisganesh here comes my man with 250 🤝🏻
SF 250 indeed is a great Machine, it generates 25 bhp , which is only available in KTM 200 CC engines, which cost a minimum of 30k more(Duke) and 50k more (RC) , even though I'm a RC fanboy, yet 250 SF is so frikin underrated, I've pulled 105 in it's 3rd gear, only needed 300-400 meters max...., Also the price is too good, i love R15, but SF250 is a steal
u missed one extremely important point, spare part cost.
tvs spares cost about 1/3 of what yamaha costs.
but spears availability is nil for tvs by an rtr owner
@@nithinal7243 mumbai resident here, have the rtr 200 4v in our family.
never faced this issue.
@@saadsurve7035 in chennai and South sides its another story brother
Apache is the better vehicle, It's just raw , Hard and well machined Components.
Apache is more reliable than Mt-15
Woah Woah Woah 😂
MT is seriously better in terms of reliability anyday over Apache and its tried and tested
I've seen Apache users bragging so much about it in the start and the same owners after 2 years crying why I pick this shit
Never say this again in terms of reliability Anyday Japanese engines are better . They're robust , tried and tested in every condition
@@motard_lonewolf I feel tvs fanboys are delusional. In terms of outright drag race, mt15 beats rtr 200 4V till 100kmph
More reliable than mt-15? LOL
I recently purchased R15M and it nothing to complain about it great performance vehicle , smooth engine etc.. but when comes to component reliability
My R15M had several manufacturing defects like Radiator gone in under 8k kms , overheated engine...
When comparing with TVS apache it still runs great hard and ruff tackles almost all kinds of conditions and not an even single issue till 15k kms till now
Indian Manufacturers are way more offering than Japanese makers
Dhanil please do a video on apache 180.
Its relevance in 2022 and is it conciderable these days...
My budget is around 2 lakh rupees should i buy Dominar 250 over mt-15 (milage is not cocern for me if get 30- 35 it is enough, i need performance) ?
Gixxer 250
Then you can go for dominar 250 for performance better than mt15
RTR is 💓, RTR is an emotion, RTR is RTR
i love the apache,i think its the best with all over ,and i have the 2022 model ,you are reviewing the old model
I'm sending my love for the Apache from 🇧🇷 🔥
7:29 here we can see Dhanil Actually mad , he is the most peaceful man in the MotorBeam crew .
Thanks for this video ❤️
Meanwhile FZ25/FZS25 in the Corner : "Chhota Aadmi hai... Gundayi karna chahta hai to karne do" 💥
mt is lighter looses cofidence while cornerring but u can do it with the apache ... u cant compare a 155 moter with the mighty 200 price pov yes u can compare mt is for chapris but apache is for mature and experienced riders
People who ride a bike like chapri, they are chapri not the bike. You can't define a bike as chapri...
Change your poor mentality about this...
@@SayanKumarDas15 200 k samne 150 ki kya aukat hai ??
@@soumyajitdev648 Aukaat kii baat tum apache waale mat hii karo. MT apache 200 ko bina thuk k pelti hai🤣🤣
Only NS 200 & Duke 200 beats MT-15. Else their's no competition to MT-15 even in 200cc, except these both...
A very poor quality and BIASED review by Dhanil. We simply do not expect such poor quality comparison videos form a big channel. He was totally being biased towards the MT because of the Yamaha branding and funky styling full stop. And the ending ? Are you kidding me ? A gixxer SF ? Or a Hornet over these two ? I can understand Dhanil’s love towards Honda but come on man. Simply disappointed. And the worst part, the MT is the latest version but the apache is a year old and isn’t even cleaned properly. Don’t do such comparos. Take it as constructive criticism. Please take note 🙏🏻
Bro, these Motorbeam guys are obdurate TVS Apache haters all along. If you don't trust me, just look up their older videos, you will clearly see through the hatred for Apaches in their genes.
Bro it's a Yamaha that's where the difference is
@@roychoudhuryavilash so u thing TVS is bad
@@Baby-op4oh not better !
Good job by dhanil
I would like to try both to check which one is more suited for the hills. I have seen lot of MTs but not much RTRs in the hills. Anyone who rides rtr in the hillside?
I own rtr 2004v 2022. I'm from Assam and I frequently ride towards Shillong, meghalaya. I mean power is great but the thing which you will like is the cornering ability, the stock tyre grip is just just fabulous. You lean and turn without dropping your confidence.
U should compare with Apache's latest model
I get easy 42-45 kmpl on my older 200 bs 4, idk how you drove it
2nd mt getting 55 is good but its a 150 cc not a 200 and with a 6 gear tranny which if u ride sanely gives u a wider cruise range and not to mention mt has no mid range power
MT15 initial equals apache.
Go see a drag race first
Performance wise both match... Again don't fall for Bajaj and tvs numbers... The power to weight ratio is really good in Yamaha..
@@vitiligo9867 cause of less weight
TVS needs to Change rhe Engine of 160 4V They Should provide Liquid Cool Engine and 6 Gear Speed Box Than TVS will be Better Than MT-15
RTR anyday 🔥
I dont know why yamaha has not introduced the yamaha xsr 155 coz MT 15 look funky its for school and college going kids, but whats about the matured gentlemen... Like us who wants a neo retro light motorcycle which gives more mileage
Make a video on the upcoming hero x pulse 200 t
200 4V is hell lot more sensible while hornet is least sensible
Thanks for bringing Gixxer SF ❤️
😆
This is the bike comparison i really needed
Broo...RTR is love ...🤍 It's awesome,the muscular body which RTR give is missing in MT ....and no need to compare about the exhaust sound of RTR.....
But only thing is TVS should have given some other headlight design because looking at the moustache shaped DRL some people May like, some people may not like but personally I don't like.
I think this guy is a Yamaha fan boy
Mt performance+ mileage+looks + features+ engine absolute killer❤
That sideglass from the SF.. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
4:30 I feel that your legs are thick.. thats why you are facing problem.. im 6,1 and i find it okay
Mt-15 has no competition
unfair. In the sense that u have not taken the latest model of apache 200 in which there is headlight change n side stand cut off feature so looks comparison is not fair you should not make a video with one old bike n one new bike
I think apache headlight design looks better than MT15
This looks like a biased review on praising Mt, did you guys got money from Yamaha or what or from Suzuki?...what is wrong with you
Now i can understand these men are only focused toward money just like Bollywood 😀
Maybe the competively priced pulsar 240 should get some love?
Always in RTR only ❤️🔥
Apache 200 has so many issues within 1 year u will wish u didn't buy it. Alll those features are for show because they do not last long and will send u to service every now and then.
Since when you are using the bike brother
Bhai Khali design ke liye aur yamaha ki brand dekh ke Mt 15 2 lakh ke hisab se sahi nahi lagti personally mujhe. Apache zyada aachi hai aur har waqt performance nahi dekhi jati prectical bhi to honi chahiye.
Strongly agree bro...well said 👏
I'll definitely choose the Apache.........
Gixxer 250 naked is the better option
Pulsar brothers doesn't want to justify them..as they knew..they are the best 😌❤️
Absolutely , when u just want to goo beast mode, NS200
This video again proves why I hate to watch reviews of Dhanil. He is so damn biased towards Japanese brands it's sick🤮 One more thing Dhanil, consider loosing some weight then you will comfortably fit on any bike😂😂😂
In my city everywhere I can see MT.....so i choose Apache 😜
Yep be unique 😎
i have a matte blue one all lokks on that
Best choice for the price
Yeah but lot of 160 4v on roads are their which look similar
Very god test but you should comapre fuel economy be droving both bikes in the same time at the same veloticy and acceleration 👌🏻 be usind similar rpm % from rpm where is max power 👌🏻 agree with almost all what you say except mt better fuel economy comes from 6 speed gearbox 🫣 that is atleast debatable 👊🏻 👌🏻😁 but yea i also think tvs apache is defenitelly better bike for lower driver it have more power better low and midrange rpm it overall spin lower rpm cos peak power have at lower rpm and it have less gear what i like more cos for me better setup is stronger engine down low with less gear rather than weaker engine down low with more gear so defenitely engine and gearbox is better in tvs apache like for me 100% 😎👌🏻it have engine modes setupable suspension god breaks , mt dont have roding mode setupable suspension but if have usd front fork it also have god breaks 👌🏻 it have better stronger frame and have better ergonomic for taller rider and despite tvs have better engine etc is cheaper i will choose mt 15 cos im 6,0 ft and at end ergonomic when you drive 2 wheels is most important aspects if you ride alot you can have lil weaker engine les mods etc but when you have bad ergonomic on bike its game over 👌🏻😁
this is how noobs review the bikess
go and watch shumi ‘s and sagar s video
Are you blind. In which way MT15 looks better. You were calling Apache front looking as khichdi in comparison to MT15, like seriously 🤣. What an abomination of a design mt15 has in front, like so ugly.
Next gixer and hornet
And there are people like me who bought Hornet 2.0
😂🤝🏻
You can hear Yamaha fan boy talking.🤣🤣🤣
yeh he said about the instagram algorithm,u will get followers with da bike😆
03:34 Infamous?! What are you saying?
Super comparison bro.
Make the 160 cc segment sup per 1.5 lakhs
I was really confused between this two..but then you had to bring out third bike for more confusion.
I really wanted to buy TVS because for less price it gives more features. I don't care if it's missing 6 gear I ride mostly in cities. But what I heard was their servicing is not good to get genuine parts you have to search the market. And overall just heard bad things about their servicing.
Mt15 cause yamaha branding servicing is good and smooth machine and the most imp point GREAT MILEAGE. But also no pillion comfort which I want.
Didn't do much research about suzuki but thanks for mentioning it. Will surely look into that one as well.
And for hornet..not really a big fan of Honda. I know I will get hate on this. But ya . Will really appreciate someones help to clear out confusion. Thanks 🤙
Mate! Do give suzuki a look
Rtr 200 is the best
Japanese engineering and built q.... If u want keep the bike for long.... Spent less on fuel.... Go for MT.... If u want use and throw Bike go fo appache
How are you saying like this? I know. About Japanese engines my uncle have fz first version still running like a gun but how can u compare the older reliable bikee with today bikes and also how u r telling apache is a use and throw bike still older apache are running in cities and villages Donot utter words in a biased manner bro oldest apache 150cc is still running in the roads
@@sridharroman958 i bet bro... Even 10 yrs from now,,,, indian products can never match Japanese levels of Quality and reliability.... I have owned an enfield.... I was patriotic buying an indian product..... But will never ever buy any automobile owned by Indian brands....experience.... I am owning an MT right now since one year and have clocked 20k + kms... Except for consumables,,, i have not spent one rupee in service centre.... MT is prop engineered bike.... U never get to c perfomance n fuel efficiency in the same place.....its a no prob bike...
@@Thenduro9956 but that doesn't mean all Indian products give problems but Enfield is really not worth for money and need high maintenance but when u compare Bajaj and TVs with Enfield they are far better and cheaper too when comparing our indian mindset but japanese motorcycles do have gud quality but still our affordable Indian automobiles are giving good competition
What about the ergonomics on the Mt. The suspension is on the stiffer side right
@@dileepmuthireddy2462 There is no perfect motorcycle..choose by your priority..... If you hav tis.... U may not hav that... 😂..
Why old model of RTR200 ?
The newest model has just one update - new headlight
@@DhanilVira but its looks kills all in segment
@@silentroyale7160 Honesty Apache looks ugly 🥲
@@motard_lonewolf but please see 2022 model u will be impressed
@@motard_lonewolf i think u r a Yamaha fan boy going to each and every comment and mocking apache 😂😂😂 grow up kid
Each and everyone have diff Perspective
The horn button position has been changed bcoz the Japanese don't want you to horn more and create noise pollution. And being difficult people might slowly stop using horn unnecessarily. ...
Lol. Wrong. That position of horn is used in europe. Yamaha don't care about India. They build mt to ship to west. Indians will adjust , throw anything at them. Who cares
Don't get me wrong but one reason for cramped position can be your tummy, try this with a 60Kg guy and then tell the difference
you cant say like that
He meant cramped that your leg will be in awkward position which may not be practical at all times. Even a fit person with skinny legs will find it wierd to sit with his legs folded like that.
Not taking offence of you noticing my tummy but then again, any taller guy would have longer legs and it will be more cramped on the RTR than the MT
Also the MT has comparatively sleeker tank for more movement, which I’ve already mentioned
So even a thinner/lighter person will feel cramped on RTR due to lesser space to move around
Mt has both looks and power
Dominar 400 vs duke adventure 250 pls brother
I like rtr looks it more sharp
I would rather go with fz25
Chip shortage very less manufacturing
Bring in the Hunter 350 as well
RTR anyday!
Mt 15 steals the show because of the looks
My bike is 2020 bs6 mt15...it's been 2 years ...for me my bike has given 65kms per litre...and i have topped 142in my bike ...and it is still THE BEST BEST bike till now
Mt me kuch khaas Aisa nahi hai engine aur face ke aalava aur lagta nahi hai ki almost 2lakh ki bike hai.maine around 12-15 Mt hamare office me hai but itni pratical nahi lagti aur value for money bhi nahi .
Apache is an aged design,MT is funky looking...and Yamaha makes more reliable engines🤷🏿
I love mt 😍😍
Old headlight of apache was good. In the name of update, tvs spoiled it.
So basically
Rtr200 for uncle log
And
Mt15 for young log
Which uncle u have seen riding a 200 😂😂 funny guy
@@sridharroman958 actually my father owns rtr 200 age 45
@@sumitgoswami9769 it's rare bro only some people like ur father have it even I have seen some uncle's driving ns200 R15 so as it is we can't call it as uncle bike majority people who have these bike are youngsters who lie from 18-35
Who said Rtr 200 is uncle's one🤦, ride the bike and comment later. Slight change you need to do is Mt 150cc bike is for teenagers. But RTR 200cc is for youth.
How come you forgot FZ25??? 😱😱
Compare with ns200
Mt 15 or wot💚
Iam getting 48kmpl my appachi rtr 200 4v Avg speed is 80 .
The Duality is shown in just the first second of the video
Where the MT weighs 138Kgs and Rider weighs 90 Kg
While the Shitty Apache Weighs 153 kgs and it's rider is 67Kgs . Clearly , it was a paid video sponsored by TVS . 😑
Not expected from you Motorbeam .
It's totally biased as this man is in love with mt 15
F250 vs gixxer