From what Jon says of how defendable the Dreadfort is, it’s likely the other Kingdoms (including the Starks) just couldn’t outright take the Castle by force. If I had to guess it was centuries if not a few thousand years of chipping away their allies and the Starks rise to power in the North till they had no choice but to bend
That’s the sense I get of it. I think what massively helped the Starks is that overtime the brutality of the Bolton’s pushed the other northern houses to support the Starks. I think it must have been mostly political rather than one last big war. I don’t ever remember reading anywhere about the Starks taking the dreadfort
I believe the fact that they united the other kingdoms helped massively with that. They gained support of the house North of the boltons while defeating their own enemies to the south-west and marrying into the kingdom down at the neck, and suddenly the boltons were surrounded
King Theon Stark was one of greatest ruler of Winterfell also a hero to the Northmen who saved from investing Andals,Ironborn and Wildlings but to the Sistermen he was a monster who invented there home forced ask the Arryn for help leading to the War Across the Water and the Rape of Three Sisters. I like how different places in Westeros see the same person in history different ways like the hungry wolf.
I’m definitely planning that right now. I’m working on a river lands video now and all the petty kingdoms that existed there. It’s interesting when you factor in the ironborn as well to that equation.
Considering about the Starks, I have a theory how the final two books will explain the origins of the Starks, their tradition and words. I belive that once Bran becomes king, he won't banish Jon to the Night's Watch but rather send him to Winterfell as a part of a pact and make replacing the Starks with Targaryens via Jon (if R+L=J was confirmed in the books too), and all of the Targs from Jon's line would ultimatly adapt to the Stark traditions and words making them the New Starks of Winterfell.
To me personally it makes more sense than Sansa becoming Queen Of The North. I think she will have a role to play in the river lands or could be the power behind bran as a sort of little finger type figure. But with brans powers idk. Jon at winterfell to me makes more sense than sending him beyond the wall. Many of the wildlings will settle south of the wall and in Jon they will have a leader they respect. He can help assimilate them and control them. However if Jon does end up leaving beyond the wall with maybe Tormund and maybe Val I could see it maybe being framed as the forging of a new kingdom beyond the wall in a way, or maybe that’s how history will look back on it
In reality once you dig down every mayor house has had its good lords and there bad ones. What happens in the books and show does not define the whole history of a house.
From what Jon says of how defendable the Dreadfort is, it’s likely the other Kingdoms (including the Starks) just couldn’t outright take the Castle by force. If I had to guess it was centuries if not a few thousand years of chipping away their allies and the Starks rise to power in the North till they had no choice but to bend
That’s the sense I get of it. I think what massively helped the Starks is that overtime the brutality of the Bolton’s pushed the other northern houses to support the Starks. I think it must have been mostly political rather than one last big war. I don’t ever remember reading anywhere about the Starks taking the dreadfort
I believe the fact that they united the other kingdoms helped massively with that. They gained support of the house North of the boltons while defeating their own enemies to the south-west and marrying into the kingdom down at the neck, and suddenly the boltons were surrounded
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King Theon Stark was one of greatest ruler of Winterfell also a hero to the Northmen who saved from investing Andals,Ironborn and Wildlings but to the Sistermen he was a monster who invented there home forced ask the Arryn for help leading to the War Across the Water and the Rape of Three Sisters. I like how different places in Westeros see the same person in history different ways like the hungry wolf.
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Great job on this video could you do more about pre conquest kingdoms?
I’m definitely planning that right now. I’m working on a river lands video now and all the petty kingdoms that existed there. It’s interesting when you factor in the ironborn as well to that equation.
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Considering about the Starks, I have a theory how the final two books will explain the origins of the Starks, their tradition and words. I belive that once Bran becomes king, he won't banish Jon to the Night's Watch but rather send him to Winterfell as a part of a pact and make replacing the Starks with Targaryens via Jon (if R+L=J was confirmed in the books too), and all of the Targs from Jon's line would ultimatly adapt to the Stark traditions and words making them the New Starks of Winterfell.
To me personally it makes more sense than Sansa becoming Queen Of The North. I think she will have a role to play in the river lands or could be the power behind bran as a sort of little finger type figure. But with brans powers idk. Jon at winterfell to me makes more sense than sending him beyond the wall. Many of the wildlings will settle south of the wall and in Jon they will have a leader they respect. He can help assimilate them and control them. However if Jon does end up leaving beyond the wall with maybe Tormund and maybe Val I could see it maybe being framed as the forging of a new kingdom beyond the wall in a way, or maybe that’s how history will look back on it
so the starks had named Jon before a game of thrones
Honestly I could watch a whole series on the north and it’s wars..
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And fans ( mostly stark fans ) continue to call Targaryens as destroyers , cruel , worst family, conquerers ... it annoys me !
In reality once you dig down every mayor house has had its good lords and there bad ones. What happens in the books and show does not define the whole history of a house.