Thank you very much, finally a practical guide to the application of wave manipulation methods. Usually only definitions of the basic concepts are found on TH-cam.
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The way you explained the freeze was actually so weird. You only showed 1 type of freeze. How about the position of the freeze? The number of minons depends on how close the freeze is to your tower. If you want to freeze in he middle, you want the exact same number of minions on both sides.
A strange thing happened to me😂 Me and my enemy in top lane just continued to play aggressive and trade, and the lane was always in neutral state, because we had enough wave clearing and we was pretty the same. And it was so dumb to just sit in the lane for all the game😂
I like when this happens because when the two of you leaves your lane finally you will find yourselfs much stronger than others cuz you were the only ones farming, everyone dies and you are in a 1v1 once again
Yo, bro. I love your DotA 2 vids.. Speeed is a legend... but yeah umm.. Skill-capped made this guide like.. years ago I think? :P It's been awhile since I've seen any Gameleap guides come up, and it's kind of worrying. Don't tell me ya'll falling behind!? :((( ProGuides been pumping a bunch out lately, and though they can't really BEAT Skill-capped, they are at least pumping out a lot of quality stuff. I hope yall don't give up on LoL...I mean, ya'll will always have Speeed I guess, but it's not like he can do your LoL guides too :P Makes me wonder like... It's CRAZY seeing how different in quality your LoL and DotA 2 guides are. Actually insane. I mean, I hope I'm not offending anyone, it's not intentional, just speaking my thoughts.
I usually like to farm safely under tower when playing mid/top, but didn’t know it’s cons except that I can’t really roam. Next time I’ll try taking one for the team when I can. Thank you!
I guess that the most reasonable strategy would be to fast push that wave and try to shove yours, that way you will be able to reset or keep it neutral, you can also create a freeze with a bit more effort
@@kelc5620 exactly that, let them know what happens if they try to break it. You either chunck them so hard they are gonna pussy out of the next fights. Or you kill them and the same happens. If he is gone you can do what you like, freeze unless team is behind. And shove if he is roaming
If you're ahead it means you're closer to your powerspike, thus your should be stronger, trade with the enemy and if you manage to kill them it's gold, or just force them to recall, it's a win anyways. If they still insist on breaking the freeze, push hard af and deny them any gold, roam and get kills
Slow pushing, you have minion advantage and if you watch the vid a 'pushing lane' is basically the opposite of a 'frozen lane'. Try to shove your wave under the enemy turret and you're clean
@@michealfoux Alright, then you should try and call for a gank. The jungler should assist you in that case. If you kill the enemy laner you should be able to clear the wave and shove yours under turret, that way you reset and replan your strategy. Basically kill the enemy laner or force him base, and push asap
They shouldn't ALWAYS push the wave fully. Some people are half-brains and will die to their opponent returning to lane or a jung gank with no health or vision. Myself included. Might be a good thing to include.
you never want to take unnecessary risks in league, if you're too low w/ no escapes, or don't have knowledge of enemy locations, its not safe to push all the way to tower - its better to lose a push and go to neutral than push and get ganked
They absolutely do. Your job as a jungler is to help your laners get ahead. If you gank their lane when the enemy was slow pushing, you may need to help them crash the wave and get a clean recall after that kill. Or if they die and you're close enough to catch the enemy wave before it crashes to set up a freeze, it can minimize their losses from that death.
@@BeinIan ofcourse they do. I have been fucked over by junglers so much. that now if I don't want a gank I just don't help at all. Junglers don't care about lane state, and sometimes with the position of the wave if you get a kill you are still even. And if your jungler gets the kill you are behind. I mean that is not worth it because say you don't even get the kill, or you get counter ganked. Then you are fucked right? And since it is a 1v1 you only get back when the opponent fucks up as hard as you did. Also sometimes when you die and the jungler basic attacks the wave (without being able to push it in) instead of just letting the wave in the middle. Then your opponent gets a freeze on you and you lose everything after that as well haha. No way to get back in Laning phase. I mean as a jungler if you know wave management, your Laners are punished less by your/their mistakes. So many times I have been baited by my jungler is unreal, and whenever I want to dive where is jungler at?
And besides that, the other comment about the slow to enemy. Let's say you are low after the gank right, or low mana. So many times in high gold your jungler just leaves because the gank was unsuccessful or he died but has teleport. If as a jungler you don't push that wave after he recalls/died you purposely fuck up your laner. You need to know how fucked up he is after that lmao. He has a choice then, stay very low to push it in without pushing power and hope opponent doesn't tp. (Which is guaranteed 99% of the time). Or give up atleast 2 waves of minions before you can break the freeze. ( If the opponent even lets you break it, I mean you won't get help from the jungler if you can't anyway)
@@BeinIan Your job as a jungler isn't to help your laners get ahead - its to secure objectives such as towers, herald, and dragons, set enemies behind with your pressure, and utilize these to win the game. Helping your laners get ahead is like a secondary objective: It can help you achieve the main goal, but isn't necessary to your job. See Karthus jg with a 55%+ win rate in high elo. He's worse at ganking than the other meta junglers (such as elise, ekko, taliyah, lee sin and so on), and his primary goal is to power farm and use his ult to get himself a huge lead so that he can solo carry the game. Some junglers that are good right now may have a stronger focus on getting laners ahead because they are early-game ganking junglers and fall off in the mid-late game, but that focus doesn't apply to the jungle role as a whole.
A good example of this is also graves jungle. he just gets himself ahead, shits on the enemy jungler's life with invades, and looks for gank opportunities so that he can take objectives uncontested and gain such a lead that he's unstoppable in the mid-late game. Graves doesn't need any of his laners to get ahead to win.
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Thank you very much, finally a practical guide to the application of wave manipulation methods. Usually only definitions of the basic concepts are found on TH-cam.
You do realize that in the image you used to show the freeze, there were only 2 more caster minions, right?
RIGHT!?
there was also an additional melee minion though, so there was 3 more minions
My favorite type of content you release!
Thank you!
so what happens when the enemy has superior wave control and perma shoves you in and roams? (mid)
Well I guess you can do nothing but hope that ur jungler has enough braincells to gank you next time you are being pushed in
Wait for them to roam, ping mia, fast push, and reset.
What champ u play?
@@zz45qq33 ekko mid
i have this prob iwth vlad so often
Awesome vid. Im gonna rewatch this like before every game so that it gets imprinted on me
What is it with League youtubers using censored hentai on their thumbnails lmao
Wuts wrong with that
Christoph Schoppe all league players are weeks lol
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They aren't, though? The artists are linked in the description most of the time and as far as I know have never been 18+.
Clickbaiting... and it works.
The way you explained the freeze was actually so weird. You only showed 1 type of freeze. How about the position of the freeze? The number of minons depends on how close the freeze is to your tower. If you want to freeze in he middle, you want the exact same number of minions on both sides.
A strange thing happened to me😂
Me and my enemy in top lane just continued to play aggressive and trade, and the lane was always in neutral state, because we had enough wave clearing and we was pretty the same.
And it was so dumb to just sit in the lane for all the game😂
Typical top laners
I like when this happens because when the two of you leaves your lane finally you will find yourselfs much stronger than others cuz you were the only ones farming, everyone dies and you are in a 1v1 once again
Sería genial que esta información también la traduzcan, por ejemplo al español :(. I like this channel, but the language is my problem, salu2!
Yo, bro. I love your DotA 2 vids.. Speeed is a legend... but yeah umm.. Skill-capped made this guide like.. years ago I think? :P It's been awhile since I've seen any Gameleap guides come up, and it's kind of worrying. Don't tell me ya'll falling behind!? :((( ProGuides been pumping a bunch out lately, and though they can't really BEAT Skill-capped, they are at least pumping out a lot of quality stuff. I hope yall don't give up on LoL...I mean, ya'll will always have Speeed I guess, but it's not like he can do your LoL guides too :P Makes me wonder like... It's CRAZY seeing how different in quality your LoL and DotA 2 guides are. Actually insane. I mean, I hope I'm not offending anyone, it's not intentional, just speaking my thoughts.
Proguides doesn't really teach advance things and is more geared towards lower mmr players for the most part.
"Never let the enemy freeze on you"
Me playing sion: You freeze on me, i R ur mid 😎
I love this channel! Maybe I can still escape the bronze elo hell!
Play mechanically easy champs that u personally enjoy and focus on macro play
@@Rbandzz.23 but i like to Master champ like lee sin, but maybe you are right. Which elo are you?
@@paulwitter5184if you are bronze please for the love of god dont play champs like lee that require actual skill
Just got out of iron hell. Now I'm in bronze hell. They are both bad haha. I'm not amazing but some of these guys on my team are just terrible.
@@martinpenev3452 bro i am actually kinda good on him, I just have to end the games earlier... lee doesnt really scale so good
I usually like to farm safely under tower when playing mid/top, but didn’t know it’s cons except that I can’t really roam. Next time I’ll try taking one for the team when I can. Thank you!
Waiiiit why is my play in this video and how??????????????? xddddddddddddddd 4:37
Great explaination
What if their minion wave crashes your tower but ur next minion wave has already arrived so their wave attacks your most recent wave
I guess that the most reasonable strategy would be to fast push that wave and try to shove yours, that way you will be able to reset or keep it neutral, you can also create a freeze with a bit more effort
Yes, but how do you keep a freeze as Tristana?
You don't saddly
shouldn't it be dived instead of dove? i might be wrong but the latter sounds wrong in my ears...
i recognize that jinx in the thumbnail too damn well..
Damn then do you know who's the artist?lol
@@apexeonu3638 AyyaSAP
How is the music genre called played in the beginning?
Love your vids ;)
What is the name of the soundtrack in the background??
Thunbnail sauce????
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what will happen if i shove the wave into the enemy tower fast ?
You will possibly create an unintentional freeze. Or you will reset and waves will collide at the centre, becoming neutral
When there are two more caster minions instead of 3
What if the enemy laner doesn't let you freeze the lane although u are a bit ahead.
@@kelc5620 exactly that, let them know what happens if they try to break it. You either chunck them so hard they are gonna pussy out of the next fights. Or you kill them and the same happens. If he is gone you can do what you like, freeze unless team is behind. And shove if he is roaming
If you're ahead it means you're closer to your powerspike, thus your should be stronger, trade with the enemy and if you manage to kill them it's gold, or just force them to recall, it's a win anyways. If they still insist on breaking the freeze, push hard af and deny them any gold, roam and get kills
how do you break a frozen wave?
Slow pushing, you have minion advantage and if you watch the vid a 'pushing lane' is basically the opposite of a 'frozen lane'. Try to shove your wave under the enemy turret and you're clean
@@theinv3rse712 no I mean how do you broke a frozen wave when it's being in done with you. like you're enemy is freezing the lane how do you break it?
@@michealfoux Alright, then you should try and call for a gank. The jungler should assist you in that case. If you kill the enemy laner you should be able to clear the wave and shove yours under turret, that way you reset and replan your strategy.
Basically kill the enemy laner or force him base, and push asap
4:36
Why is he talking like he is speaking to 5 yos
He is
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They shouldn't ALWAYS push the wave fully. Some people are half-brains and will die to their opponent returning to lane or a jung gank with no health or vision. Myself included. Might be a good thing to include.
then you neutralize the wave
you never want to take unnecessary risks in league, if you're too low w/ no escapes, or don't have knowledge of enemy locations, its not safe to push all the way to tower - its better to lose a push and go to neutral than push and get ganked
@@saethone yeah, tell that to all my teammates. I've gotten better at it, but still get hardfocused at times.
I mean junglers don't exactly need to know this until maybe diamond+
They absolutely do. Your job as a jungler is to help your laners get ahead. If you gank their lane when the enemy was slow pushing, you may need to help them crash the wave and get a clean recall after that kill. Or if they die and you're close enough to catch the enemy wave before it crashes to set up a freeze, it can minimize their losses from that death.
@@BeinIan ofcourse they do. I have been fucked over by junglers so much. that now if I don't want a gank I just don't help at all.
Junglers don't care about lane state, and sometimes with the position of the wave if you get a kill you are still even. And if your jungler gets the kill you are behind. I mean that is not worth it because say you don't even get the kill, or you get counter ganked. Then you are fucked right? And since it is a 1v1 you only get back when the opponent fucks up as hard as you did.
Also sometimes when you die and the jungler basic attacks the wave (without being able to push it in) instead of just letting the wave in the middle. Then your opponent gets a freeze on you and you lose everything after that as well haha. No way to get back in Laning phase.
I mean as a jungler if you know wave management, your Laners are punished less by your/their mistakes.
So many times I have been baited by my jungler is unreal, and whenever I want to dive where is jungler at?
And besides that, the other comment about the slow to enemy. Let's say you are low after the gank right, or low mana. So many times in high gold your jungler just leaves because the gank was unsuccessful or he died but has teleport. If as a jungler you don't push that wave after he recalls/died you purposely fuck up your laner. You need to know how fucked up he is after that lmao.
He has a choice then, stay very low to push it in without pushing power and hope opponent doesn't tp. (Which is guaranteed 99% of the time). Or give up atleast 2 waves of minions before you can break the freeze. ( If the opponent even lets you break it, I mean you won't get help from the jungler if you can't anyway)
@@BeinIan Your job as a jungler isn't to help your laners get ahead - its to secure objectives such as towers, herald, and dragons, set enemies behind with your pressure, and utilize these to win the game. Helping your laners get ahead is like a secondary objective: It can help you achieve the main goal, but isn't necessary to your job. See Karthus jg with a 55%+ win rate in high elo. He's worse at ganking than the other meta junglers (such as elise, ekko, taliyah, lee sin and so on), and his primary goal is to power farm and use his ult to get himself a huge lead so that he can solo carry the game.
Some junglers that are good right now may have a stronger focus on getting laners ahead because they are early-game ganking junglers and fall off in the mid-late game, but that focus doesn't apply to the jungle role as a whole.
A good example of this is also graves jungle. he just gets himself ahead, shits on the enemy jungler's life with invades, and looks for gank opportunities so that he can take objectives uncontested and gain such a lead that he's unstoppable in the mid-late game. Graves doesn't need any of his laners to get ahead to win.
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