Love my Tesla Model Y LR, this is the most sold electric car in Norway, is so good to drive, just drove a 16 hour trip with 6 ferries, was not tired Love from Norway - Bergen
This type of efficiency is exactly why I bought my 2nd Model Y Long Range. I have gotten similar results on road trips with the 19" aero wheels, but didn't have the courage to drop below zero SOC. Great video Kyle, thanks for putting in the hours!
What I love about my 2023 Model Y Quicksilver: 1) One of the safest car tested by EURO NCAP and IIHS 2) Great efficiency 3) Loads of room inside, front and back. Plus massive trunk space. 4) Fassssst 5) 4-wheel drive
266 Wh/mi is just simply amazing. My Model 3 Performance has a lifetime average of 267 Wh/mi after 15k miles but that is with 18” wheels. This Model Y is truly in a class by itself.
This result isn’t typical. Between my fiancé, my grandfather and my aunt, there’s 3 Model Ys in my family. Highway efficiency (70mph) on 19” wheels (all 3) is about 300wh/mi in good weather conditions. They’re all less efficient than my Model 3 Performance was on 20” wheels.
It is difficult to compare your lifetime average to a one-off range test. This range test was done in summer 80-90F temperature under sunny weather. Rain, wind, cold temperature will all increase your consumption. Presumably over the lifetime of your vehicle, you have seen adverse or cold weather.
My 2022 LR AWD model 3 on 18" wheels has a lifetime of 249 wh/mi, and that's including the brutal AC draw from Arizona summer. Picked it up at the height of summer, and it averaged in the high 270's low 280's. But once the weather cooled off, it isn't uncommon to get 170 (yes 170) city driving and 220-230 on the highway at 75 mph. I do drive a little more gentle than one ought to with a car like this, but I like turning efficiency into a game. I do still enjoy putting the pedal through the floor at a stoplight or highway on-ramp every once in a while though!
EPA range (316 with those wheels) is based on a drive cycle that includes city driving, so of course it's not going to match it going 70 mph continuous. Still, not bad 🙂
@@hintzod Exactly 💯 I have a video on my channel where we compared the efficiency and range of five different versions of the Model 3. We did a freeway loop going 65 mph the whole way, and all of them got their rated EPA range except for my Performance Model 3 which got 8% more than it's rated range because I put 19 inch Aero wheels and low-rolling resistance tires on it 😎
Question: I know OoS is running on hwy but if he's getting off the hwy wouldn't it drop his avg mph below 70? And thus getting closer to the EPA range? I ask because not everyone go hwy to hwy but actually get off the hwy & go on surface streets to get to their destination & dropping their avg speeds.
@@thistoob It's complicated by the wind resistance being the square of the velocity at high speed compared to it being a linear relation to velocity at low speed. So yes, if we drive 269 miles at 70 mph, and then a further 17 miles at an average of 40 mph, the overall average speed would be (269×70+17×40)÷286=68.2 mph So yes, average speed is closer to EPA. However, the energy required to drive at 70 mph compared to 65 mph is much greater. At 70 mph you're travelling at 1.069x the speed, so when we square that we get 1.160x the energy usage. So, for 94% (269mi÷286mi) of the journey we used 16% more energy than the EPA 65 mph test. And then for the remaining 6% of the journey we used a little less energy averaging 40 mph; let's say 30% less to be generous. Then we have overall energy consumption compared to EPA Highway average of (269×1.16+17×0.70)=1.13 or 13% more energy consumed. At this point I'm reaching the limit of my brain's capacity without getting a pen and paper out but if we divide our final range 286 miles by the percentage of our battery we could have used if we'd driven at 65 mph (100%-13%=87%) then we get 286÷0.87=329 miles. Considering that Kyle drove about 12 miles beyond zero on the battery meter, we can adjust that range to 317 miles, which seems pretty close to the stated EPA range since they don't run the car below 0 miles iirc.
@@nettlesoup You hit the nail on the head. That's why more aerodynamic wheels matter a whole lot more than wheels that are just lighter. I have super light forged Martian wheels that I use on the track, but when I want range I put my 19-in Aero wheels on. I have a video on my channel where I found that my Aero wheels combined with low-rolling resistance tires improved my Model 3 Performance range to 340 miles
If you've followed my comments on this channel, you'd know I'm not the hugest Tesla fan, but can absolutely appreciate the tech and level of refinement on certain components.... Wife drove a MYLR... And we're getting one. So there it is.
Very useful test for Tesla Y road trippers. We are on a road trip from Seattle to Yellowstone in a 2023 Subaru Outback getting about 30mpg on an 18 gallon tank. Back home in town we drive a 2022 Leaf SV plus. Following secondary roads through small town Montana have no Tesla superchargers. All EV is the future, not the present yet for us.
There seems to be so much more work using an EV, when it comes to trying to get the estimated range, compared to an ICE vehicle. Our 01 DGC EX gets around 410 miles per tank of gas with high winds going 75 to 80 MPH. (20-gallon size tank) I can use pretty much anything in it without effecting the MPG.
It's a blessing and a curse of electric vehicles and the efficiency of electronics. The majority of energy from gasoline is wasted as heat... 70-80% at least. So increasing load on the engine by 10% has a negligible effect on MPG because you're still wasting so much of the energy as heat. That's why electric cars need to be so aerodynamic (and ugly) while ICE vehicles wouldn't notice improvements.
And the ICE spews toxic air pollution everywhere it goes harming human health, contributing to climate change, oil spills, etc. A disaster on wheels. Also, there is less work with an EV because almost all the charging happens at home.
My Model 3 SR+ averages around 220wh/mi but generally I can only do like 170 mi before I feel uncomfortable pushing it further. That's about 95% to 5%.
so using 65 mph as the EPA rough estimated speed, then since air drag is proportional to velocity squared 65^2 / 70^2 = 0.862, and you got 286/326 = 0.877, so within 1% of my simple formula, Expect about a 10% range drop in a year or two, then pretty level for a long time. Nice test!
The Tesla Model Y is arguably the best car in the world, if one takes into account four factors equally - value, safety, utility, and performance. It’s probably stealing at least some sales from M3, MX, and maybe even MS.
It may be the best car in the world, but I still like my Model 3 better. Better handling, more highway range and a sleeker appearance. It's just more nimble, more efficient and more fun to drive.
Collision warning activated because the collision warning is likely set to "Early". I have mine set on late which eliminates the warning from sounding unless you need to brake. The passenger vents can only be controlled individually if you decouple the left and right systems first. There are two modes, one mode allows individual left and right control and the other mode locks them together. that's why both sides turned off when you tried to shut off the passenger side. Duh!
Kyle, great video as always. Have you ever tried the range test without regenerative breaking? I'm really curious to see how much less (or more) of a range you will get without it. Thank you for all your videos!!
It is pretty incredible that this car is less than $50k with the tax credits. Amazing value especially when you consider that it can use both the Tesla network and any of the public chargers.
@@ryansherman4556 if you qualify for the tax credits and have the $7,500 of tax liability then you save that $7,500 because you bought the car. Any way you look at it you have $7,500 more in your pocket.
@@LearningFast but it doesn’t lower the price of the car. That’s the way they are making it sound like. That you pay 58 k but actually will cost you 7500 less which is not true
I know your post is 9 months old but I just bought a Y LR with 20” that was discounted from $51.5k to $45k and I got the $7500 up front (new 2024 rules) so one hell of an EV for $38k!!!!
Kyle. In your free time please find a way to range test (70mph & 10%) the 2022-3 Model Y AWD (4680 structural battery). I think it might be sweet spot like the the LFP Model 3 RWD. Will be look into to the future for Tesla. Predicting, if others haven't, the 4680 will be powering the refreshed Model 3 Long Range when it goes back on sale. Thanks.
@@LBrisk01 I specifically would like to see one run on a NEW vehicle (as close to 0 miles as possible). Would there be other factors that are showing as degradation. It might show how accurate the test itself is as opposed to his fully charge and run to empty test he has run on several vehicles.
For true range @ 70 mph we are talking about 269 miles @ 270 Wh/mi and 2% SOC left. This is impressive efficiency of 3.7 mi/kWh. So by extrapolation, the range would have been 274 miles if getting to 0%. It is known that the Tesla has about 3.5 kWh buffer, this means to complete stop it would mean 287 miles. How much range Kyle squeezed from the pack ? 286 miles. Perfect score !
Can you test the model y range for a stop-and-go traffic scenario? This would be helpful information for tesla owners to know under situations such as hurricane or wildfire evacuation, when they need to move 200ish miles to safety!
Thank you for this video. My identical LR Tesla model Y and year. I have almost 20,000 miles. 3 rd set of tires. At 72 I am not going to do what you did (my wife would kill me). I have a road trip planned into Western Maryland from west of Columbus Ohio with several Tesla locations along the way. The mountains of western Maryland to deal with and you have relieved my anxiety issues along the way. Again thank you..
Thanks for the always great videos. We can really tell that you’re passionate about what you do if possible I would love to see videos, showing one pedal driving versus really trying to max out range with the Hyundai Ioniq 5 or Kia EV 6 regen paddles and maybe even compare that to the one pedal only/chill mode on model 3 or Y if that’s not too apples and oranges. PS, just to let you know I’m not a fan of one paddle I like to be able to coast whenever I can down hills or into in the distance stop lights.
I keep changing my mind between three cars for me to buy next year - Save money and get a Model Y, Spend more money and get a Taycan, Spend the same and get a Polestar 3 or a wild card of a Q6 E Tron. I am still leaning towards saving money and getting a Model Y Performance. I own a Q8 Hybrid right now but i want to go fully electric next car, would have to order some of them soon though.
Great to see the Model Y Long Range range test! I just recently picked one up for myself about a month ago and the mile estimate on the battery indicator is definitely set to 330. I have the induction wheels as well, so it seems like Tesla just doesn't account for the different tires which is interesting. Keep up the good work!
You'll see your range drop. I'm at 7300 miles on my 23 MYLR with Inductions and my 100% range is 319 now. It's fine with me since it's supposed to be 318 EPA. I'm lifetime 302 Wh/mi on my car since delivery on 12/31/22
Too bad I'm in Mesa AZ not really near Colorado since my wife and I just got a brand new 2023 Model Y Performance (on the 21"s which are standard) which would be an interesting range comparison. Love the speed of this thing.
I just changed my 21 inch Uber turbine wheels for 19 inch Gemini wheels with all season continental tires on my y performance. Way cheaper to replace tires with longer life , a little better range, more comfortable and 50 pounds knocked off without hubcaps. I replaced those p zero back tires at 22,000 miles ( 9 months) cost me 1100 bucks! After that I said forget the looks and moved over to the Gemini wheels and tires. Now I can get 4 tires for the price of those 2 p zeros!
I got 250 Wh/mi driving 90 miles to my 2nd home....and that's with 19" oem on model Y performance....it's actually nice to get the range that is displayed. :-)
Kyle, I would like to do a show on phantom braking. We did a 4200 mile road trip on our 2022 Model 3 LR from Indianapolis, to Denver, then Phoenix, and home. We experienced many instances of phantom breaking on interstate driving that were unsettling. Here is the post I put on Facebook and got many reactions from other owner who see the same thing: "We have a 2022 Model 3 LR. We took a 4200 mile road trip from Indianapolis to Denver and then down to Phoenix and back. it was all interstate going 70-80 mph. We had a serious problem with repeated phantom braking. Often, what seemed to trigger it was when we came up on a section of road that was black as opposed to normal grey roadway. It would brake and then keep on going (I guess it was trying to learn what it was). We would also experience it when coming up over a crest of the road where you couldn't see on the down slope. At least these two situations could be explained for the phantom braking. However, there were times multiple times when we were on open road with no car ahead of us and it would brake. With cruise control operational, my wife would keep here foot hovering over the accelerator when cars were following us so that she could gun it when the braking occurred so that the car behind wouldn't ram us. My wife thought the oncoming wind was causing it when were heading west but I experienced the same thing when we were going with the wind. This seems to have gotten worse. It's nerve-wracking to drive this way. Anyone else experiencing this?"
Interesting I'm getting 269 WH/MI on the Model Y performance with 21" @ 70 mph with uber turbine, this is with 18,000 miles. I find I can get about 220 miles from 100% - 10%. Never went below 10% charge.
Really?? And what was your outside weather temperature & climate control set at during your result? I have a performance model Y on order& I’m dying to know
I think the EPA rated range is based on the default 19" wheels of 330 miles. 322 miles is from Tesla's estimated battery health. I've tried changing my model 3's displayed wheel and noticed the range (divide displayed miles by %) doesn't change.
Came over to compare to your Nissan Aria 70 mile test. Here you put up a 27 minute video and the results are giving in 15 seconds, without a graphic at the very end of the video. You really need to standardize the comparisons and provide a graphical comparison that you leave on the screen for 10 or 15 seconds - so much effort is put into these videos but you can’t assume that everyone wants to do the math on the back end.
How about normal driving range test. Mostly city driving and then some Highway. Isn't that what most electric vehicle owners do. I understand it's faster to expedite a test with highway driving only, but I don't know how accurate a range test it would be for most people.
Highway is the main issue with EVs and what more people would be concerned about. Who cares if they get 250 or 300 in city when they're home to charge every day anyway? Just like hybrids, the city range will be better.
People should know the difference between Model 3 SR v/s Model Y LR at highway speeds is ~25 miles(not 60 miles). The EPA rating doesn’t matter at all. This is important to know because M3 SR - M3 LR - MY LR are all at $5k upgrades. Most people end up buying MY LR because upgrade from M3 LR is just $5k. But really the range difference is minimal and not relevant, either in regular day driving or road trips. Longer range versions are not required. I’m not sure how slow the charging curve is on M3 SR with LFP battery pack. Maybe that would make a difference of about ~10mins per charging stop during road trips, not sure.
I've found that driving my 2019 M3LR to my ILs, there is a stretch of 200 miles without superchargers (South Dakota FTW) and we get there with about 10% SOC. And my efficiency is terrible in town as well, which is pretty disappointing. The fact that you get close to 290 miles is amazing and a little disheartening for me. Glad there is a semi-competitive EV market out there now. Kia EV9 will probably be our next EV, trading in the M3.
"Full charge, just waiting for you" is a loving caress compared to squeezing out every last electron. That kind of abuse s/b illegal, but there seems to be a whole TH-cam cottage industry built around it.
So what's a brand new 2024 Model Y LR with the standard 19" wheels go up to in a similar test? Looking to buy one and would like to know Kyle's real world 70 MPH Highway Range for that kind of car.
A hybrid getting 50MPG would be an overall better purchase. 6 gallons of gas @4.50 would be $27, charging at a supercharger @.50 cent a KwH would be $40 to do the same mileage....
ICE spews toxic air pollution everywhere it goes harming human health, contributing to climate change, oil spills, etc. A disaster on wheels. Sending trillions of dollars out of the country for imported is really bad for our economy.
Ok. ICE spews toxic air pollution everywhere it goes harming human health, contributing to climate change, oil spills, etc. Sending trillions of dollars out of the country for imported oil. A disaster on wheels.
Starting next month I will be driving 220 miles round trip a day for the next two years. I’d like to get the 2024 model y long range AWD. Would I be able to safely make it there and back on one charge?
I noticed my '24 Model Y Long Range automatically turns off the passenger side AC vents if I am driving solo. I'm averaging 275 Wh/mi so far on my daily commute. Running the 19" Gemini wheels with aftermarket wheel covers.
For me, the buying decision is between a GV60 and a MYLR. I love the luxury, along with the fit & finish of the Genesis but the Tesla is the no-brainer choice in many ways - including the $5,000 incentive in Canada that the Genesis doesn't qualify for. The GV60 you tested came in at 250 miles, the MYLR at 286. Not a huge difference, but in winter cold it might mean *all* the difference for us. Resale value is a consideration too. The GV60's depreciates like a used Jaguar while the MYLR holds it's value more like a Honda Civic. I suppose if I wait long enough, a used GV60 can be had at 50% off MSRP - which just won't happen with the MYLR. Decisions, decisions...
Thank you for all your videos and information…..can you please help me my model 3 rwd 2023 loose a lot of range every night..now is showing 244 maybe I’m doing something wrong 17k miles? 120 v home and supercharger
The reviews I'm curious to see are testing a model 3 with the lithium polymer battery instead of the lithium ion battery and a model y with again the polymer battery The two that you're supposed to charge to 100% every time anyway and seeing what the range on those is when you run them completely dead or almost completely dead like you did with this one maybe you'll have to do that with your father's model. 3.
Forward Collision Warning is really annoying lately! It's giving erroneous alerts a lot lately! I love my 2023 M3 but this is seriously affecting my Tesla insurance!
Can you do a test with regen breaking turned off to see if how much less miles you get out of the vehicle? I'v always wanted to try this with my tesla, but just never had the time.
Really stress that the range displayed on the screen is not based on driving history. I find that so many people thing it is based on driving history, so therefore stress this even more so all understand it when they visit your tests.
Is 277w per mile pretty common for a dual motor Y? Just curious since our model 3 RWD has a lifetime of 205w per mile. Thinking about buying a dual motor Y that are currently discounted and trying to get an idea of its efficiency. Edit: I bought the Model Y after watching this video. LOL
I’ve rented EVs when traveling for work and they usually want it back at 90%+ charge and I’m like “do you know how long that can take?” Lol because you have to basically get it to 100% to make it back to the rental at 90%
That has definitly happened to me in my model 3. It is probably just some software glitch that happens occasionally and then fixes itself after some time.
Love my Tesla Model Y LR, this is the most sold electric car in Norway, is so good to drive, just drove a 16 hour trip with 6 ferries, was not tired
Love from Norway - Bergen
This type of efficiency is exactly why I bought my 2nd Model Y Long Range. I have gotten similar results on road trips with the 19" aero wheels, but didn't have the courage to drop below zero SOC. Great video Kyle, thanks for putting in the hours!
I get so nervous going below 20%. I watch these videos in part to assure myself that I'd be okay in an emergency situation
What type of real world range are you averaging with mixed usage?
@@kenhiett5266in Texas summer I’m getting under 200miles on my estimated after I’ve driven 150 miles for the day
What I love about my 2023 Model Y Quicksilver:
1) One of the safest car tested by EURO NCAP and IIHS
2) Great efficiency
3) Loads of room inside, front and back. Plus massive trunk space.
4) Fassssst
5) 4-wheel drive
Yep We can not ask for more!
Europe is trash
266 Wh/mi is just simply amazing. My Model 3 Performance has a lifetime average of 267 Wh/mi after 15k miles but that is with 18” wheels. This Model Y is truly in a class by itself.
This result isn’t typical. Between my fiancé, my grandfather and my aunt, there’s 3 Model Ys in my family. Highway efficiency (70mph) on 19” wheels (all 3) is about 300wh/mi in good weather conditions. They’re all less efficient than my Model 3 Performance was on 20” wheels.
It is difficult to compare your lifetime average to a one-off range test. This range test was done in summer 80-90F temperature under sunny weather. Rain, wind, cold temperature will all increase your consumption. Presumably over the lifetime of your vehicle, you have seen adverse or cold weather.
@@icekk007 I live in a warm climate. I was just remarking that even getting close to my Model 3 average is very good for this car.
280MI Mach E lol
My 2022 LR AWD model 3 on 18" wheels has a lifetime of 249 wh/mi, and that's including the brutal AC draw from Arizona summer. Picked it up at the height of summer, and it averaged in the high 270's low 280's. But once the weather cooled off, it isn't uncommon to get 170 (yes 170) city driving and 220-230 on the highway at 75 mph.
I do drive a little more gentle than one ought to with a car like this, but I like turning efficiency into a game. I do still enjoy putting the pedal through the floor at a stoplight or highway on-ramp every once in a while though!
24:00 test results
266 Wh/mi @ 70MPH is fantastic! 3.5 mi/kWh is up there as well.
dude was driving 55mph
Really enjoying all your content Kyle. I’ve learned so much since following you.
Looking forward to the ‘23 LR Y!!
Wow!! I hit zero one time (9 miles out) in an 2021 MYP and only pulled 71KWH. 76 is crazy!!!
how many miles on the car?
@@vladimiralexandrov5930 32000.
Love your work Kyle - packed full of practical, helpful info, delivered with a smile and unbreakable positivity 😀
unimpressive result here
EPA range (316 with those wheels) is based on a drive cycle that includes city driving, so of course it's not going to match it going 70 mph continuous. Still, not bad 🙂
EPA Highway Range is good for 65mph. Reduce range by 15% every 10mph over 65 you go.
@@hintzod Exactly 💯 I have a video on my channel where we compared the efficiency and range of five different versions of the Model 3. We did a freeway loop going 65 mph the whole way, and all of them got their rated EPA range except for my Performance Model 3 which got 8% more than it's rated range because I put 19 inch Aero wheels and low-rolling resistance tires on it 😎
Question: I know OoS is running on hwy but if he's getting off the hwy wouldn't it drop his avg mph below 70?
And thus getting closer to the EPA range?
I ask because not everyone go hwy to hwy but actually get off the hwy & go on surface streets to get to their destination & dropping their avg speeds.
@@thistoob It's complicated by the wind resistance being the square of the velocity at high speed compared to it being a linear relation to velocity at low speed.
So yes, if we drive 269 miles at 70 mph, and then a further 17 miles at an average of 40 mph, the overall average speed would be (269×70+17×40)÷286=68.2 mph
So yes, average speed is closer to EPA.
However, the energy required to drive at 70 mph compared to 65 mph is much greater. At 70 mph you're travelling at 1.069x the speed, so when we square that we get 1.160x the energy usage.
So, for 94% (269mi÷286mi) of the journey we used 16% more energy than the EPA 65 mph test. And then for the remaining 6% of the journey we used a little less energy averaging 40 mph; let's say 30% less to be generous.
Then we have overall energy consumption compared to EPA Highway average of (269×1.16+17×0.70)=1.13 or 13% more energy consumed.
At this point I'm reaching the limit of my brain's capacity without getting a pen and paper out but if we divide our final range 286 miles by the percentage of our battery we could have used if we'd driven at 65 mph (100%-13%=87%) then we get 286÷0.87=329 miles.
Considering that Kyle drove about 12 miles beyond zero on the battery meter, we can adjust that range to 317 miles, which seems pretty close to the stated EPA range since they don't run the car below 0 miles iirc.
@@nettlesoup You hit the nail on the head. That's why more aerodynamic wheels matter a whole lot more than wheels that are just lighter. I have super light forged Martian wheels that I use on the track, but when I want range I put my 19-in Aero wheels on. I have a video on my channel where I found that my Aero wheels combined with low-rolling resistance tires improved my Model 3 Performance range to 340 miles
Really would love to see Kyle do the range test on the Austin 4680 Model Y
Same. I got mine earlier this month.
I took delivery of a ‘23 MYP recently and would love to see content on how it compares to the LR models. Love your channel!
Same, picked mine up in March.
Goodness so much relentless content! Fantastic - keep it up :)
That last bit of charging after 100% is final BMS balancing to the limit.
Have you tested the 2023 Model 3 LFP? I just bought one and am curious what the actual range would be on a roadtrip :)
Gotta love Tesla efficiency.
If you've followed my comments on this channel, you'd know I'm not the hugest Tesla fan, but can absolutely appreciate the tech and level of refinement on certain components.... Wife drove a MYLR... And we're getting one. So there it is.
Very useful test for Tesla Y road trippers. We are on a road trip from Seattle to Yellowstone in a 2023 Subaru Outback getting about 30mpg on an 18 gallon tank. Back home in town we drive a 2022 Leaf SV plus. Following secondary roads through small town Montana have no Tesla superchargers. All EV is the future, not the present yet for us.
There seems to be so much more work using an EV, when it comes to trying to get the estimated range, compared to an ICE vehicle. Our 01 DGC EX gets around 410 miles per tank of gas with high winds going 75 to 80 MPH. (20-gallon size tank) I can use pretty much anything in it without effecting the MPG.
It's a blessing and a curse of electric vehicles and the efficiency of electronics.
The majority of energy from gasoline is wasted as heat... 70-80% at least.
So increasing load on the engine by 10% has a negligible effect on MPG because you're still wasting so much of the energy as heat.
That's why electric cars need to be so aerodynamic (and ugly) while ICE vehicles wouldn't notice improvements.
And the ICE spews toxic air pollution everywhere it goes harming human health, contributing to climate change, oil spills, etc. A disaster on wheels. Also, there is less work with an EV because almost all the charging happens at home.
and your oil comes from sand NAZI, so why are you watching this video?
My Model 3 SR+ averages around 220wh/mi but generally I can only do like 170 mi before I feel uncomfortable pushing it further. That's about 95% to 5%.
so using 65 mph as the EPA rough estimated speed, then since air drag is proportional to velocity squared 65^2 / 70^2 = 0.862, and you got 286/326 = 0.877, so within 1% of my simple formula, Expect about a 10% range drop in a year or two, then pretty level for a long time. Nice test!
Was going to say the same thing as that other viewer about not much coverage on the Model Y & X.
The Tesla Model Y is arguably the best car in the world, if one takes into account four factors equally - value, safety, utility, and performance. It’s probably stealing at least some sales from M3, MX, and maybe even MS.
People like their lifted hatchbacks 🤭
It may be the best car in the world, but I still like my Model 3 better. Better handling, more highway range and a sleeker appearance. It's just more nimble, more efficient and more fun to drive.
Would love to see this same test on the 19” Gemini wheels!
Collision warning activated because the collision warning is likely set to "Early". I have mine set on late which eliminates the warning from sounding unless you need to brake.
The passenger vents can only be controlled individually if you decouple the left and right systems first. There are two modes, one mode allows individual left and right control and the other mode locks them together. that's why both sides turned off when you tried to shut off the passenger side. Duh!
Kyle, great video as always. Have you ever tried the range test without regenerative breaking? I'm really curious to see how much less (or more) of a range you will get without it. Thank you for all your videos!!
With a constant speed on the highway, Regen is nearly Irrelevant. Regen is most useful in the city where braking energy is normally just wasted.
It is pretty incredible that this car is less than $50k with the tax credits. Amazing value especially when you consider that it can use both the Tesla network and any of the public chargers.
tax credits dont lower the price of the car if you pay 58 k you pay 58k you dont magicaly get 7500 off the price of the car at tax time
@@ryansherman4556 if you qualify for the tax credits and have the $7,500 of tax liability then you save that $7,500 because you bought the car. Any way you look at it you have $7,500 more in your pocket.
@@LearningFast but it doesn’t lower the price of the car. That’s the way they are making it sound like. That you pay 58 k but actually will cost you 7500 less which is not true
Welfare reform
I know your post is 9 months old but I just bought a Y LR with 20” that was discounted from $51.5k to $45k and I got the $7500 up front (new 2024 rules) so one hell of an EV for $38k!!!!
Model Y - extraordinary car. Safest car there is, most spacious SUV on the market, sensational stereo, suits me and my family perfectly 👌
The Model X is larger (and by quite a bit). And let's not even talk about ICE SUVs.
@@ItsEverythingElse Model X for the win!
@@ItsEverythingElse Yes for sure, don’t bother talking about ICE SUVs.
Very impressive given inefficient wheel option. Am interested to hear what the ‘23 MY on Gemini aero wheels could get.
Kyle. In your free time please find a way to range test (70mph & 10%) the 2022-3 Model Y AWD (4680 structural battery). I think it might be sweet spot like the the LFP Model 3 RWD. Will be look into to the future for Tesla. Predicting, if others haven't, the 4680 will be powering the refreshed Model 3 Long Range when it goes back on sale. Thanks.
You should run the factory degradation test on a new Tesla to see what it reports. Curious. Doubt it would show 0% degradation.
He ran the service battery test in a prior video. It was at 7% degradation but he estimates it was probably more like 4-5% due to buffer
@@LBrisk01 I specifically would like to see one run on a NEW vehicle (as close to 0 miles as possible). Would there be other factors that are showing as degradation. It might show how accurate the test itself is as opposed to his fully charge and run to empty test he has run on several vehicles.
need to test the new 4680 Model Y with 279 Miles EPA
11:09 - I bet the forward collision warning was because you were looking away and were approaching a stopped car.
For true range @ 70 mph we are talking about 269 miles @ 270 Wh/mi and 2% SOC left. This is impressive efficiency of 3.7 mi/kWh. So by extrapolation, the range would have been 274 miles if getting to 0%. It is known that the Tesla has about 3.5 kWh buffer, this means to complete stop it would mean 287 miles. How much range Kyle squeezed from the pack ? 286 miles. Perfect score !
The right side vent shuts itself off if there's only a driver in the car, at least that's how my 21 Model 3 performs.
Can you test the model y range for a stop-and-go traffic scenario? This would be helpful information for tesla owners to know under situations such as hurricane or wildfire evacuation, when they need to move 200ish miles to safety!
Thank you for this video. My identical LR Tesla model Y and year. I have almost 20,000 miles. 3 rd set of tires. At 72 I am not going to do what you did (my wife would kill me). I have a road trip planned into Western Maryland from west of Columbus Ohio with several Tesla locations along the way. The mountains of western Maryland to deal with and you have relieved my anxiety issues along the way. Again thank you..
Thanks for the always great videos. We can really tell that you’re passionate about what you do if possible I would love to see videos, showing one pedal driving versus really trying to max out range with the Hyundai Ioniq 5 or Kia EV 6 regen paddles and maybe even compare that to the one pedal only/chill mode on model 3 or Y if that’s not too apples and oranges. PS, just to let you know I’m not a fan of one paddle I like to be able to coast whenever I can down hills or into in the distance stop lights.
I miss Alyssa.
Is she not on the channel anymore?
I keep changing my mind between three cars for me to buy next year - Save money and get a Model Y, Spend more money and get a Taycan, Spend the same and get a Polestar 3 or a wild card of a Q6 E Tron. I am still leaning towards saving money and getting a Model Y Performance. I own a Q8 Hybrid right now but i want to go fully electric next car, would have to order some of them soon though.
Great to see the Model Y Long Range range test! I just recently picked one up for myself about a month ago and the mile estimate on the battery indicator is definitely set to 330. I have the induction wheels as well, so it seems like Tesla just doesn't account for the different tires which is interesting. Keep up the good work!
You'll see your range drop. I'm at 7300 miles on my 23 MYLR with Inductions and my 100% range is 319 now. It's fine with me since it's supposed to be 318 EPA. I'm lifetime 302 Wh/mi on my car since delivery on 12/31/22
@@leanderzulu3494 Oh yeah, I'm expecting it to. Seems like you got a pretty good battery!
@@sammerjammer4 How are you enjoying the MYLR ? I pick mine up in 2 days in the UK, then hoping to shoot some content with it!
@@everythingt3sla I am very much enjoying it. Makes for a great first car purchase. Have you been enjoying yours? I see you've posted some videos!
@@sammerjammer4 yes it’s great! Everything I hoped for and better, looking forward to going on some longer trips 👍
Too bad I'm in Mesa AZ not really near Colorado since my wife and I just got a brand new 2023 Model Y Performance (on the 21"s which are standard) which would be an interesting range comparison. Love the speed of this thing.
I just changed my 21 inch Uber turbine wheels for 19 inch Gemini wheels with all season continental tires on my y performance. Way cheaper to replace tires with longer life , a little better range, more comfortable and 50 pounds knocked off without hubcaps. I replaced those p zero back tires at 22,000 miles ( 9 months) cost me 1100 bucks! After that I said forget the looks and moved over to the Gemini wheels and tires. Now I can get 4 tires for the price of those 2 p zeros!
I got 250 Wh/mi driving 90 miles to my 2nd home....and that's with 19" oem on model Y performance....it's actually nice to get the range that is displayed. :-)
Kyle, I would like to do a show on phantom braking. We did a 4200 mile road trip on our 2022 Model 3 LR from Indianapolis, to Denver, then Phoenix, and home. We experienced many instances of phantom breaking on interstate driving that were unsettling. Here is the post I put on Facebook and got many reactions from other owner who see the same thing:
"We have a 2022 Model 3 LR. We took a 4200 mile road trip from Indianapolis to Denver and then down to Phoenix and back. it was all interstate going 70-80 mph. We had a serious problem with repeated phantom braking. Often, what seemed to trigger it was when we came up on a section of road that was black as opposed to normal grey roadway. It would brake and then keep on going (I guess it was trying to learn what it was). We would also experience it when coming up over a crest of the road where you couldn't see on the down slope. At least these two situations could be explained for the phantom braking.
However, there were times multiple times when we were on open road with no car ahead of us and it would brake. With cruise control operational, my wife would keep here foot hovering over the accelerator when cars were following us so that she could gun it when the braking occurred so that the car behind wouldn't ram us. My wife thought the oncoming wind was causing it when were heading west but I experienced the same thing when we were going with the wind. This seems to have gotten worse. It's nerve-wracking to drive this way. Anyone else experiencing this?"
My 24 model y LR has a Wh/mi average is 229 at 70 mph.
I've seen it around 170-190 in the city or around 65mph average.
Interesting I'm getting 269 WH/MI on the Model Y performance with 21" @ 70 mph with uber turbine, this is with 18,000 miles. I find I can get about 220 miles from 100% - 10%. Never went below 10% charge.
Really?? And what was your outside weather temperature & climate control set at during your result? I have a performance model Y on order& I’m dying to know
@@rono33 sorry for the late reply, out side temps 73 degree this was during early March.
I think a brand new Y with the aero wheels could crack 300!
Plenty of MYLR owners report range well over 300 miles.
Thanks for this, of course … but aren’t we due an explainer as to what to expect from Tesla and their newer 4680 batteries?
I think the EPA rated range is based on the default 19" wheels of 330 miles. 322 miles is from Tesla's estimated battery health. I've tried changing my model 3's displayed wheel and noticed the range (divide displayed miles by %) doesn't change.
330 is a myth. Maximum 250-260
Love the Model Y, great car! I drive mine from Cheyenne to Salt Lake fairly often and it does amazing at the road trip! Appreciate your videos!
Came over to compare to your Nissan Aria 70 mile test. Here you put up a 27 minute video and the results are giving in 15 seconds, without a graphic at the very end of the video. You really need to standardize the comparisons and provide a graphical comparison that you leave on the screen for 10 or 15 seconds - so much effort is put into these videos but you can’t assume that everyone wants to do the math on the back end.
Alyssa is ALWAYS needed! Hi Alyssa!
Where is she?
How about normal driving range test. Mostly city driving and then some Highway. Isn't that what most electric vehicle owners do. I understand it's faster to expedite a test with highway driving only, but I don't know how accurate a range test it would be for most people.
Highway is the main issue with EVs and what more people would be concerned about. Who cares if they get 250 or 300 in city when they're home to charge every day anyway? Just like hybrids, the city range will be better.
on my model 3 RWD I get around 199 wh/mi with 220 wh/mi on the higher end
I checked my Model 3 LR with scan my Tesla and the buffer is 3.5kwh.
People should know the difference between Model 3 SR v/s Model Y LR at highway speeds is ~25 miles(not 60 miles). The EPA rating doesn’t matter at all. This is important to know because M3 SR - M3 LR - MY LR are all at $5k upgrades. Most people end up buying MY LR because upgrade from M3 LR is just $5k. But really the range difference is minimal and not relevant, either in regular day driving or road trips. Longer range versions are not required.
I’m not sure how slow the charging curve is on M3 SR with LFP battery pack. Maybe that would make a difference of about ~10mins per charging stop during road trips, not sure.
The forward collision warning beeped because you were looking away
Austin built car? 4680 batteries? Front/rear with structural battery? Nice results.
No, it's LR
Awesome video - so curious to see the same test on the 19” aero wheels. Maybe a 5% increase in range?
I've found that driving my 2019 M3LR to my ILs, there is a stretch of 200 miles without superchargers (South Dakota FTW) and we get there with about 10% SOC. And my efficiency is terrible in town as well, which is pretty disappointing. The fact that you get close to 290 miles is amazing and a little disheartening for me. Glad there is a semi-competitive EV market out there now. Kia EV9 will probably be our next EV, trading in the M3.
Can you range test the Ford Mach e California route 1 AWD. Nobody has done that so far.
"Full charge, just waiting for you" is a loving caress compared to squeezing out every last electron. That kind of abuse s/b illegal, but there seems to be a whole TH-cam cottage industry built around it.
The name of that charging station is kinda sus.
286 miles out of 316? That's supposed to be good? 10% under?
“Plug in so we don’t hurt the battery” does this mean it’s okay to bring it that low as long as you immediately charge it?
So what's a brand new 2024 Model Y LR with the standard 19" wheels go up to in a similar test? Looking to buy one and would like to know Kyle's real world 70 MPH Highway Range for that kind of car.
A hybrid getting 50MPG would be an overall better purchase. 6 gallons of gas @4.50 would be $27, charging at a supercharger @.50 cent a KwH would be $40 to do the same mileage....
ICE spews toxic air pollution everywhere it goes harming human health, contributing to climate change, oil spills, etc. A disaster on wheels. Sending trillions of dollars out of the country for imported is really bad for our economy.
unless you charge at home with solar for free
Installing solar is not free@@howlinhauler
Kyles stoke is infectious
I wish you have put a longer version of this video on "out of spec motoring"
Would love to see a ICE comparison to this test! To see EPA range vs real world mileage.
Ok. ICE spews toxic air pollution everywhere it goes harming human health, contributing to climate change, oil spills, etc. Sending trillions of dollars out of the country for imported oil. A disaster on wheels.
You are good at what you do. 😀
Starting next month I will be driving 220 miles round trip a day for the next two years. I’d like to get the 2024 model y long range AWD. Would I be able to safely make it there and back on one charge?
Tesla claimed EPA ranges are based on 62 mph constant speed. Just go 62 mph constantly and you can cover the claimed EPA range.
I noticed my '24 Model Y Long Range automatically turns off the passenger side AC vents if I am driving solo. I'm averaging 275 Wh/mi so far on my daily commute. Running the 19" Gemini wheels with aftermarket wheel covers.
Kyle, Would love for you to do this with a model Y performance since the P model has a slightly different motor + the 21s 🧐
Excellent. Thank you for frequently mentioning the miles traveled throughout the test. Well done. -‘21 Plaid S :)
@outofspecreviews hey Kyle, you think you can get your hands on a model y 4680 to do a range test on that?
That’s impressive.
For me, the buying decision is between a GV60 and a MYLR.
I love the luxury, along with the fit & finish of the Genesis but the Tesla is the no-brainer choice in many ways - including the $5,000 incentive in Canada that the Genesis doesn't qualify for.
The GV60 you tested came in at 250 miles, the MYLR at 286. Not a huge difference, but in winter cold it might mean *all* the difference for us.
Resale value is a consideration too. The GV60's depreciates like a used Jaguar while the MYLR holds it's value more like a Honda Civic.
I suppose if I wait long enough, a used GV60 can be had at 50% off MSRP - which just won't happen with the MYLR. Decisions, decisions...
Did this Model Y have more range than the 2022 Model 3 Performance?
This video was great man. Great detail and well thought out experiment
Thank you for all your videos and information…..can you please help me my model 3 rwd 2023 loose a lot of range every night..now is showing 244 maybe I’m doing something wrong 17k miles? 120 v home and supercharger
Not bad. Would you say it could easily reach 300 miles if speeds were kept at 60-65 mph?
So you tested the Aria and used miles per kilowatt, why not use that measure here as well? Why change units? FYI it's 3.76mi/kWh
The reviews I'm curious to see are testing a model 3 with the lithium polymer battery instead of the lithium ion battery and a model y with again the polymer battery The two that you're supposed to charge to 100% every time anyway and seeing what the range on those is when you run them completely dead or almost completely dead like you did with this one maybe you'll have to do that with your father's model. 3.
286 miles is identical to the range test for the Rivian R1S on this channel 👀
Forward Collision Warning is really annoying lately! It's giving erroneous alerts a lot lately! I love my 2023 M3 but this is seriously affecting my Tesla insurance!
It's just so weird that the Y can do that kind of range and charge well but still loses to the Porsche in the new test by a bunch.
Can you do some efficiency tests with an EV that has a front clutch disconnect to show the difference on the highway?
Can you do a test with regen breaking turned off to see if how much less miles you get out of the vehicle? I'v always wanted to try this with my tesla, but just never had the time.
How many Kyle Connors are there? Seems like 3 or 4.
Really stress that the range displayed on the screen is not based on driving history. I find that so many people thing it is based on driving history, so therefore stress this even more so all understand it when they visit your tests.
Talk nerdy EV lingo to me! 😍
is there a way to permanently leave the passenger vent ON even when no one is sitting there?
Love my MYP.
Is 277w per mile pretty common for a dual motor Y? Just curious since our model 3 RWD has a lifetime of 205w per mile. Thinking about buying a dual motor Y that are currently discounted and trying to get an idea of its efficiency.
Edit: I bought the Model Y after watching this video. LOL
I think the usable is the same as a model 3 lr from 2021,76kw ,I guessed 290,and I was only 4 off
Great Video! How did you turn off the passenger side vent?
I’ve rented EVs when traveling for work and they usually want it back at 90%+ charge and I’m like “do you know how long that can take?” Lol because you have to basically get it to 100% to make it back to the rental at 90%
That has definitly happened to me in my model 3. It is probably just some software glitch that happens occasionally and then fixes itself after some time.