Yamaha Tenere 700 - Essential Air Filter Knowledge

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  • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
    @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The first in a series, 'All things Tenere' combining the knowledge of a group of people who love the Tenere 700, experts in engineering, mechanics, suspension and accessory design and suspension. For those new to Motorcycle Adventure Dirt bike TV below are two playlists that will give you an idea of what we get up to,
    th-cam.com/video/NtLsIDFYv8M/w-d-xo.html
    and
    th-cam.com/video/tA6z1DQFAiU/w-d-xo.html

  • @cpuuk
    @cpuuk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Can I suggest the cameraman follows the action (the hands) not the person talking (the head).

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Apologies, I'll lift my game!

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ozoutdorz2584 The airbox mod is hardly very challenging. It's repeated. Be a pretty boring video if we stared at the airbox for ten minutes :)

    • @adventuremotoz
      @adventuremotoz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mmmm... It's not like it's Rocket Science... I don't feel missed anything at all.

  • @Cabritostube
    @Cabritostube 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The ease of air cleaner service alone is almost enough for me to move from the 1090 to the Tenere 700... good stuff!

    • @ronanrogers4127
      @ronanrogers4127 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know what you mean, I have a 1290. My DRZ400E has 3 dzus fasteners on a side panel, and voila, you’re in.

    • @ulteem54
      @ulteem54 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And for me to move from the Africa Twin: 2 filters, the need to loosen the crashbars, remove both sides of the fairing. Plus the airbox is under the tank!

  • @BigBikeAdventures
    @BigBikeAdventures 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Front facing snorkel taking air from under the tank, easy to get to and service. Makes more sense than other ADV bikes on the market.

  • @ajhertel
    @ajhertel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just picked up my Tenere two weeks ago here in San Diego, CA. Ordered the filter and pre-filter, arrived in less than a week. Thanks for the detailed explanation on the snorkel mod.

  • @JustTex
    @JustTex 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    funny how he recommends mineral oil and at the end yamaha recommends yamalube synthetic hahaha

    • @denisgastellier7294
      @denisgastellier7294 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I was gonna say the same! hahaha

    • @oyleyhands1332
      @oyleyhands1332 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@denisgastellier7294 I was just about to type that myself...

    • @longkeithdiablo8812
      @longkeithdiablo8812 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same lol

    • @Itchybite
      @Itchybite 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hay Motorcycle Adventure Dirtbike TV. What’s your response to this?

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Itchybite Yamaha recommend a different oil to Unifilter. Obviously, when editing this video I recognised the difference, but I felt it was important to put the two views. I don't think they are necessarily exclusive of one another.

  • @JayBee-se8ou
    @JayBee-se8ou 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow! Well done Yamaha! 24,000 mile valve inspections, easy access air filter...this is gonna crush Tiger 800/900 sales. Pulling the cams out of my Tiger 2x year got old fast. I can't wait for these to get to the US.

  • @hardworkingamerican8847
    @hardworkingamerican8847 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Putting a deposit on a Tenere 700 as soon as I can get to the dealership . Your videos will be much appreciated .

  • @comfortablyunknown700
    @comfortablyunknown700 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This Is GREAT!! Excited to really dive into the internals of the T7.
    I will be ready to apply them to my US(CA) model.....some day

  • @stepheneldridge6998
    @stepheneldridge6998 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great stuff...the pre filter is a good idea. Looking forward to this series about all things T7! Cheers, Steve

  • @vineetjoshi5241
    @vineetjoshi5241 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Many congratulations for Tenere 700! Love it.

  • @josephegerton3233
    @josephegerton3233 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cheers for the heads up, pick up my T7 this week! It's been a long time coming!

  • @ShooterMedic1818
    @ShooterMedic1818 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Watching this makes me cry thinking about changing the Airbox on my Africa Twin

  • @kkooloo5781
    @kkooloo5781 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would have been great if you gave a reason for greasing.Also would it adversly affect plastic

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He did give a reason. It seals between the lid and the airbox. Grease doesn't affect the plastic. He recommends high temperature grease.

  • @allenhuling598
    @allenhuling598 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well done....looking fwd to this whole series!! Cheers!

  • @iivaridark6850
    @iivaridark6850 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Try to video the technical objects, not the talking faces. Very good video otherwise! We like Unifilter too.

  • @frebuton2016
    @frebuton2016 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much for these videos. Riding in California deserts a lot. We too have Bulldust and this tip is useful. I just ordered those UniFilters from Australia.

  • @argentum_on_glass
    @argentum_on_glass หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi there, in case I would be travelling anywhere worldwide, what a good solution of mineral oil to use to oil it? any tip what to wash it with ? Dish soap ?

  • @madmotoadv6595
    @madmotoadv6595 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    At 8:00, you forgot about us Canadian buyers!!!! 😲😂✌ seriously though, thanks for this series, I will be ordering a unifilter and doing the suggested airbox mods for my T7 when it arrives. Already use them on my KLR's.
    Can not wait for the next video in this series. Cheers.

  • @danbrown3103
    @danbrown3103 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’v withdrawn my earlier comment. But i’ll be using mineral oil.
    I do love your channel and the info you guys pass on.

  • @mikeskidmore6754
    @mikeskidmore6754 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That Filter is rather small for a 689 CC bike .. Looks like the T-7 is using the same air box as my FZ-07 I replaced the paper filter with a K&N filter the K&N does beller more..
    I always carried spare clean foam air filters on trips with my dirt bike.. I used to clean them in gasoline which is dangerous.. I can use mineral spirits too ..
    Good to know not to use aerosol spray oil which is expensive . I have a 55 gallon drum of 80W-90 transmission mineral oil and a 55 gallon drum of 85W-140 wt oil too .. I guess the heavier oil would be better..
    If you are running near lots of water or snow Outerwear's socks are great .. but they fit over normal filters that bring the air from outside to the inside would not be easy to use on the backwards Yamaha set up ..
    So if you have to take the gas tank off to service a KTM would be a deal breaker. I thought I read they made servicing the air filter much easier on the new Triumph Tiger 900 maybe I heard that.. Maybe the KTM you still have to remove the gas tank ..I hope some one who knows will comment..
    I sure hope they make foam air filters available in the USA as the freight from Australia would cost more than the filter costs..

  • @davidleonard8369
    @davidleonard8369 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are you sure about cutting too much off of the snorkel causing harmonics in the air box? The reason I ask is that in 2021 Yamaha completely eliminated the snorkel leaving only the elbow on the inlet.

  • @roosthrower
    @roosthrower 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some belray foam filter oil mixed with grease be good around lid extra protection.
    I would oil the prefilter to with belray not leave dry.
    Has airbox got a o ring on seal or foam.

  • @osimnod
    @osimnod 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Appreciate the practical applications and improvements on the T7. Question: the XTZ750 Super Tenere would be the predecessor to the T7. Any thoughts on the differences in performance b/t the models?

    • @arvedludwig3584
      @arvedludwig3584 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      A long time ago I was looking for the XTZ750 but ultimately decided to never buy that bike. I heard the frame has a weak point that forms cracks.

  • @tinchodbaires1996
    @tinchodbaires1996 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish you can trip across Argentina (Ruta 40) soon. Greetings.

  • @sirjolly81
    @sirjolly81 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Most people will remove the whole snorkel. its fact the factory tunes are terrible to meet emissions. open the air box and exhaust and let it breath. obviously a tune afterwards is ideal. wont be long for the aftermarket to supply power mods. also 10 years of dirt riding using uni, hiflow, funnel web, twin air and ktm power parts foam filter. never had an issue with castrol foam air filter oil from a can. only my 2 cents. The t700 is everything i need from a bike. keen to get one at the end of 2020. got my old xt660x for now.

  • @Ccaarlooss
    @Ccaarlooss 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi there! Writing from Barcelona! Great video!! Thanks!
    I have a question though: if the engine is breathing better with this filter, is the mixture gas/air getting poor and, therefore, is dangerous to the engine?
    Some say that a chiptuning is mandatory; some say nothing, like you guys; some say it is not necessary, the lambda makes its work and tune the mixure again...
    What do you think?
    Thanks in advance!!!

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Some have it tuned. Some don't. I don't have a strong view.

    • @Ccaarlooss
      @Ccaarlooss 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Thanks for your answer!! I will ask in other door....but it surpries me that is not a common question people asks himself before changing the air/filter. Maybe I am too worried and it is not as critical....
      Cheers from Bcn!

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We have a truck load of very fine ancient dust that easily permeates paper filters. Most bikes are sold with foam oil filters in Australia for that reason.
      @@Ccaarlooss

  • @jonoj7666
    @jonoj7666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great stuff lads 👍
    Really liking this bike more and more 👌

  • @Bhombar
    @Bhombar 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I already cut my inner snorkel flush. Then I watched this. What can be the difference? I can't seem to understand what has changed from a stock length inner snorkel and a flush cut snorkel

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Resonance. Look it up.

    • @Bhombar
      @Bhombar 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Well, I looked it up, watched a couple of videos and I don't seem to comprehend how air resonance is related to performance loss in the engine. If you are trying to say aerodynamics and air-flow dynamics, then I can understand that maybe cutting the snorkel may change the path that the intake air follows. But this also wouldn't make sense as the engine will try and suck in the necessary air and the point and size of entry is still the same with a bonus of a larger filter area will be available for that air to follow.
      I will be happy if there is an example or a data of comparison what exactly happens if you cut the snorkel too short or if you don't cut it at all.
      No body cares about noise emissions, therefore I am not talking about noise reduction effects of the air box design.

  • @WillysPerformanceCycleCtr
    @WillysPerformanceCycleCtr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great information, very informative! Thanks and Ride safe mate....

  • @mototechsam3051
    @mototechsam3051 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How much is it and I just bought a 2022 T7 and just want a cleanable air filter. Going to leave things stock. What do you recommend? Thank you your input is much appreciated

  • @colinm2056
    @colinm2056 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Will the one's coming to south africa have the same filters as the Aussie one's?

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't think so, as that was an arrangement with Yamaha Australia.

    • @colinm2056
      @colinm2056 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Thanks!

  • @BanditriderBlogspot
    @BanditriderBlogspot ปีที่แล้ว

    Do the seat mod...

  • @Fitter-u8f
    @Fitter-u8f 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Should always screw self tappers back way first make sure not cutting new threads everyone top tip 😮

  • @Rdissss
    @Rdissss 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Might be ktm damaged.. But it seems no one have had the thought of removing the airbox completly and adding a foam filter Rottweiler style. Would probably both loose weight and gain power. Overall reading forums i miss the KTM community and the will to improve. I really like the T7 over the 790.
    I Currently have an adventurized 690, Would be awesome with an comparison to the T7 from someone who have also had a 690 for a longer period. I really like the videos.

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I own both an adventurised KTM690 and the T700. Slightly different bikes for slightly different journeys but both capapble of doing both. We have already replaced with foam air filters on the T700. Here is the video.th-cam.com/video/YuW4AeJESzU/w-d-xo.html

    • @Rdissss
      @Rdissss 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Yea i know :) Would be nice if you could do a comparison like you did with the gs310 vs 690. Me for example is thinking of going from 690 to T7 due to wanting a more road worthy bike but still be able to do dirt and I can only have one bike.

  • @mhilde7744
    @mhilde7744 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    👍...awesome! Keep it up, mate!

  • @morercthanclassy1543
    @morercthanclassy1543 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The filter oil Yamaha recommends is synthetic?

  • @jjustj
    @jjustj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    At 5 :21 he mentions NON synthetic for oil filter , at the end you are reccomending yamahas synthetic.

  • @jc7654
    @jc7654 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You tube is funny , this just popped up and it's from 4 years ago, still very relevant. But glad I watched it as it's interesting

  • @garrycoates2147
    @garrycoates2147 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video. I think an "inside out" filter system by Yamaha is problematic as the air box has to be perfectly sealed otherwise dirt goes directly to the intake. You can get away with tiny gaps in an "outside in" system as the filter will just get dirty earlier. Also in lots of cases a prefilter will go directly over the filter. It will be interesting to see how the aftermarket guys address this system.

    • @mbal4052
      @mbal4052 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tell us you’ve never had to regularly had to change your filter without telling us you’ve never had to regularly change your filter 😂😂

  • @funguseater40
    @funguseater40 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So I'm not the only one to struggle with the seat Allen key! Great vlog. Hi from UK 👍Subscribed 👍

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I had the same challenge! I thought to myself, there has to be some secret to this.

    • @TheRiderGuider
      @TheRiderGuider 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      T7 seat hack > th-cam.com/video/rwQJ5MxcCPw/w-d-xo.html

  • @ulteem54
    @ulteem54 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi there. I'd like to know if anyone experienced a reduction of power output with the foam/oil filter.

  • @2wheels1guy25
    @2wheels1guy25 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yamaha recommending YamaLube...watta suprise!

  • @utmatt20
    @utmatt20 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m trying to find the UNI filter for my new T700. Does anyone have a part number? A search on the UNI website comes up empty.

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I found it straight away on the unifilteraustralia site. It even has our MADTV airfilter video. Go to motorcycle, then Adventure then Yamaha XTZ690.

  • @bobdrakeford5731
    @bobdrakeford5731 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good to know Guys. I'll look forward to my Tenere 700 if it ever turns up in Melbourne! Yamaha promised "you'll be riding it before Christmas". 👎🤔 Every day gone by is day closer to getting it. 🤞

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Worth the wait Rob, I've really enjoyed the bike. Everytime I kick my leg over it I get a smile.

    • @bobdrakeford5731
      @bobdrakeford5731 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV You wouldn't believe it! Today the Dealer contacted me, I'll be a proud new Tenere 700 Owner tomorrow. My order was placed 02/01/2019. Long wait, but exciting times ahead! 👍😁

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bobdrakeford5731 they might watching :)

  • @garyparece4161
    @garyparece4161 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    what's the part # for the pre filter

  • @BRUNO5979
    @BRUNO5979 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Question: I have the original air filter and an Akrapovic with no db killer. Is it recommended to do the modification to the snorkel?
    Should I cut the 12 or 15 mm?

  • @rockbiterhd
    @rockbiterhd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    mate your in trouble if you carnt touch the sides

  • @longkeithdiablo8812
    @longkeithdiablo8812 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting and educational 👍👍

  • @LGR_LGR_LGR
    @LGR_LGR_LGR 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Motorcycle education!👍👍👍👍

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was just cleaning my prefilter yesterday. I'm glad we went to Unifilter, the amount of crap the prefilter keeps out is amazing.

  • @henryhiggins2021
    @henryhiggins2021 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    look how small the air filter is ,, its smaller than a TTR250 air filter .

    • @Jimo368
      @Jimo368 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Henry Higgins I was thinking it is a third of the size of my DRZ

  • @MrHeepspo
    @MrHeepspo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When using any grease/oil etc, wear gloves.
    That crap soaks in and it can get you eventually.
    Just isn't worth it.

  • @AUBREYTHOMAS1979
    @AUBREYTHOMAS1979 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good shit!

  • @NulJern
    @NulJern 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Expanding plastic? Aye!? Doesn't it melt? You have some special plastic down under? I don't mind keeping it stock, good enough for yamaha, good enough for me

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think you should go back and have a closer listen. In summary, Yamaha Australia CONTRACTED Unifilter to supply foam airfilters for Australia because of our fine dust. Every Tenere sold in Australia is fitted with a Unifilter at time of sale. It is common practice for motorcycle companies in Australia to turn to Unifilter to replace paper airfilters because paper filters don't stop our very fine dust. I can think of a number of well known brands of bikes where engines have been dusted and no longer work after having been in our conditions for less than a week. The engines simply stop, because they have no compression. Europe doesn't have this problem, nor most parts of the US, but the deserts of the mid west do, as do parts of South Africa and other locations in the world. I strongly suggest you read up on this. Secondly, Myles wasn't saying the plastic melted. His point was sometimes the airfilter boxes, when the engine has been running in hot conditions, can slightly distort, hence the added precaution of putting grease on the seal between the airbox lid and the housing.

    • @NulJern
      @NulJern 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Ease up mate. I can see you all austrailian need the extra filtration but im not austrailian so to me it's just way too much effort. I was only pointing out the fact that plastic melts and doesnt expand, i never claimed he said plastic melts, if he did, i wouldn't have commented. I know what he meant, but he didn't quite say what you believe he did, even if that was what he meant. I agree plastic can distort but it can never expand. Around 7:10.

  • @YuToNeT
    @YuToNeT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great boik teneray 700

  • @KevinMyers-nd5lm
    @KevinMyers-nd5lm 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not totally convinced, I had dust on the outside (engine side) of the air filter in the first 2500klms of the bikes life!!!

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think you may have not put the cover on correctly, nor greased it thoroughly a very common error. Then the bolts are screwed down and you think its sealed.

    • @KevinMyers-nd5lm
      @KevinMyers-nd5lm 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I hadn’t touched it from new. I checked it at 2500klms and that’s when I noticed it! The cover was on correctly you can see where the dirt is on the inside and where it has come through to the clean side.

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KevinMyers-nd5lm I'm not sure I would have knocked over 2.500 km on a new bike without looking at the airfilter, just saying.

    • @KevinMyers-nd5lm
      @KevinMyers-nd5lm 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV kidding right! The service intervals are supposed to be 10,000klms… 2500 is early!!!

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KevinMyers-nd5lm When I buy a bike, I look over it closely, things come loos, things don't get oiled, things don't get greased. I don't know what happened to your bike but that is not normal.

  • @ronanrogers4127
    @ronanrogers4127 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve had better results from Funnelweb than Uni

    • @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
      @MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What do you mean, what sought of results?

    • @ronanrogers4127
      @ronanrogers4127 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Motorcycle Adventure Dirtbike TV the larger surface area means it can be used for longer before I clean it again. Around 75% of my riding is on the same off-road routes around my area in regional Victoria (then I do the occasional adventure trips when I have time), so the conditions are generally the same, or very similar (ie very dry and dusty). In the same conditions I’m cleaning my filter almost half as frequently as I used to with uni. I use No Toil oil on both filters. After a few months I cut the Funnelweb in half when it was time to be cleaned, and no dirt had passed through the the centre of the foam, the dirt was retained in roughly the outer 10% of the filter where it first comes into contact with the tacky No Toil (the filter oil is worked through to the inside as well). The thick polyurethane band around the rim means rim grease isn’t required and I get a great seal (cleaning the metal mesh behind the filter with alcohol wipes showed zero signs of dust). All in all I think it’s a better filter for dusty conditions. That’s my experience.

  • @gonefishn6024
    @gonefishn6024 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    you ha

    • @Disting2
      @Disting2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A bit of grease inside the air box is also a good idea tends to pick up any dust that may get through and also lets you know if you have a leak. Was something I used to do on my enduro bikes.