@@gabrielmendonca3225 They have the F2 license and all of the tracks. It was a poor implementation IMO. Why not at least have the option of doing the whole season?
The career mode is annoying. When you transfer to another team it just acts like nothing happened. They should have made it more detailed with the press conferences and what it’s like to be a F1 driver
@@trl_apod F1 2016 and F1 2017 had cutscenes. Sometimes Chris will talk to you about a part failing or upgrading, Emma can talk to you about doing well in races or doing badly and warning you about possibly being fired. It really wouldnt change the file size a lot, its just cutscenes that were already in previous games. Were talking mb to single digit gb. Not a sudden spike to 120.
MP sucks becuase every kid thinks hes Ayrton Senna god after playing a few career rounds at 75 difficulty, and tries to race the same against other people online.
Not sure what the rating system is now for 2019 MP but I remember aiming for A rating on 2018 and having to trawl through atleast 10 destruction derby type D races until I started seeing racers who knew how to race. The only way I got out if the shite groups was to purposely stay at the back for clean races to up my percentage.
I haven't played 2019 yet, but your complaints about the driving physics accurately describe the problem I have with 2018. It's way too light, almost like I'm playing a flight game without a road, or F-Zero
funnily enough i bounced right off 2018 for jsut that reason, 2017 and before was fine... i pit it down to having gotten used to forza7 for a while before 2018 came out.... but really, wasn't able to get round albert prk in the way i was used to from the earlier games and .. couldn't be arsed to put in the time really.
I've never found it THAT light. It's not a go-kart either. This debate was had in F1... Verstappen puts it like this, go-karts tire your arms, F1 cars tire your neck.
I’m real life you’ll usually see Hamilton between 59-63% brake bias towards the front.... in F1 you need 53-56% brake bias to make the car stick under heavy braking how you want... I agree completely in GT Sport you can feel the car and make real time decisions.... F1 almost feels like the world is sped up... and the car can be way to twitchy with a bad setup....
ikr, thats thanks to the incorporation of ray and audio tracing. The technology is still in it infancy but im hoping more devs pay attention to it especially with the emergence of 4k resolution screens
I agree with all points 100% As a competitive player of F1 games in leagues such as AOR F1, it really does bug me with all these issues, such as the physics. So annoying.
@@mariocloud2738 It does, of course within a certain limit. I would not buy a wheel only to play F1, but if you are a racing enthusiast, give it a shot.
I don't know what they do handling but it's realy sh*it! I have input lag or it just feels that. I can not feel tyres so you don't know when you lock up tires or when tires spin. Car also slides high speed corners it is floating. Previous game i know when i can put full throttle but know i just have to gues. Also i have to try learn trail braking again becouse tyres seem lock up so easily. I'm really disappointed about physic.......😤 I drive on wheel so it can be better on pad but i don't know.
Hitting the rear should wreck your gearbox. When on pro mode you cant replay. Side pods cant even be damaged only the front wing which is lazily modelled
The "floatyness" of F1 games is why I appreciate the W08 in gtsport. GT's handling physics are very solid especially on max ffb and with the F1 car it's very easy to feel every bit of the road in your hands. Transitioning from the W08 in sport and playing a codemasters game the lack of feeling the physics are very noticeable.
Anthos Lykos GT Sport gets the overall physics better than the codies F1 games but still you lack full control of the car’s actual capabilities as the W08 in GT Sport doesnt let you control or fine tune the ERS as done in the codies game. The codies game feels more immersive in the paddock but GT Sport feels more immersive in the driving aspect
Alfred Rodriguez another pet peeve of everyone with the W08 in GT Sport is that the DRS flap acts like an active spoiler on road cars. It opens all the time on every straight and there are no DRS Zones
I think the constant ERS management is pretty annoying. Like Norris said when he played it, you are managing the ERS I. This game way more than in an actual F1 car
The crash damage hasn’t been updated since 2010. I hit a wall and I either bounce off unscathed or a wheel falls off. It’s 2019 and the damage sim is from the original PlayStation.
Spot on about the brakes. For the past few games now, the lock ups have been absolutely ridiculous. You have to constantly feather the brake pedal and really nail your braking spots. I don't get how they haven't fixed it yet. In real life, the drivers use the force of deceleration to push themselves full force into the brake pedal with barely any lock ups, assuming they don't steer at the same time.
Exactly, IRL they are pushing on the brake with 60 kilos of weight or whatever it is and they are having to modulate at the bottom of the pedal, not at the top.
Yes thank you, finally someone said it how it is with physics in this game! It's unrealistic to say the least. No traction is nonsese, as you need to be as precise as the surgeon with your inputs. Same goes with brakes and lock ups.
I actually refunded the game because the physics feel so weird. Going from a sim like Assetto Corsa to this feels off. Feels almost like you either have zero downforce or infinite downforce.
Assetto is a proper sim though, whereas this is aimed at the casual market with just a light bit of realism. Anyone playing a game like Assetto aught to have known that before even buying the game
I agree on the physics, it feels not right at all. Lando Norris says that the game isnt even close to real life F1. But codemasters is doing casual games for years, so i think we cant expect really more from them. For me the F1 series are games wich i play here and there. I would play it more if they include more features to career mode in the future.
Gonzo S3B interesting. What did Lando say, exactly? I think the physics on the F1 cars feel really solid - and very planted. I do have ABS on so I can’t speak on the touchy brakes but the rest is good.
Yeah he compared it to iRacing a lot and kept on saying iRacing feels miles better than F12019 which is to be expected but he praised the immersiveness of the actual lifestyle of F1 in the game but other than that he wasnt too impressed
@@GTChucker86 Because he is a hardcore F1 racing driver and a sim racer. Off cores he doesn't impressed this is a game for 10 years old to the 60 years old. If Codemasters build a 100% sim nobody will play beside the hardcore sim racers who has the 15000€ rig for that.
I can't speak for wheel users, but on the pad, the driving has been amazing since 2016. The rumble motors on the triggers play a key part in my driving. It's pretty subconscious, but the moment they are turned off, I lock up, spin out etc.
Yup..the rumble motors gives a very good feedback as to how far we can push the car and when its time to back off. Without it - the driving experience would so difficult and a less realistic feel. Those using the wheel would probably have that problem I guess.
I use ABS and have traction control on Medium, it feels a lot better and not as floaty. It's helped me to not jam the brakes and I have now turned ABS off and I'm not locking up as much. Everyone has different preferences but that's what has worked for me so far.
It might feel great but but it's less realistic as modes like TC are banned, and I feel its slower as when you go to the event game modes the top players never have them, know I understand that's because they want there shot at the Esports but the top players are still faster than the first with TC or ABS
Play 2017 on a pad. Tell us how it goes when you get to Monaco. That game is what ultimately influenced my decision to buy a wheel, pedals, and h-pattern shifter for other sim driving games.
Talking about floating. I agree. But it's the same when pitting, the cars aren't lifted in the air. Tyres are taken off, changed and new ones on and when you release theres no noticeable feel that you're ready to release the clutch and go. Been caught a few tenths because of this. 😥
Being honest, I don't like the career mode in 2019. F1 2017 still has the best career mode in the series. Yes, there isn't the Devon Butler and Lucas Weber rivalry. And Yes, there aren't any interviews with Claire, but F1 2017 felt much more alive. Performing well? You are talked to, face-to-face about it. Performing poorly? Yet again, you are confronted about it. Not investing in car development? Chris (the R&D Engineer) will confront you about how the car needs more upgrades. Constantly investing in development? Chris will confront you about how the car is gaining pace. Failed component? Chris himself tells you that the part failed. Passed component? Chris himself tells you that the part is now on the car. And the Classic F1 car owner confronts you early in the career mode, offering you to drive his cars. F1 2018-2019 How does your (new, and honestly inferior to the 2016-2017 one) engineer and agent confront you? EMAIL EMAIL EMAIL EMAIL EMAIL EMAIL EMAIL
100% agree on the track models (and other points as well), but I feel the track model topic should be brought up more often. The root for a lot of these track models is still based on F1 2010 and at this stage I find that unacceptable. It really hit home when MotoGP 19, also an annual title, came out this year with track models that look absolutely fantastic. It's high time for Codies to give the track models in F1 a facelift, because some tracks in F1 might actually score worst in class compared these tracks that feature in other racing games.
Make sure you turn down the degree's of rotation on your wheel. That's something a lot of people forget to do when they play F1 games. They use somewhere between 720 and 1080 degree's for every other type of racing, but when you come to formula one, you really have to drop it down to 360. There's no other way to play it. If you don't, it will always feel strange. Once you turn the weight up, because you're not really moving the wheel as much to turn the car, the weirdness of the force feedback becomes less of an issue.
About braking, you exactly need to slam it and then easy up with it. For an example T2 in Austria, you slam brakes at 100m, keep it for 50m and then start easing up, last part of braking comes though gears. If you lock up, it’s basically because too high brake bias, too high brake pressure, too long holding brakes or turning at the same time. About steering hard to say how well it’s modeled as currently it’s completally opposite to what it was in F1 2019. However it was easy to notice that F1 cars have power steering and F2 cars don’t as F2 cars were a lot heavier.
I liked F1 2018 career mode, but when I get back to play GT Sport I noticed how unrealistic was F1 2018, I assume this is pretty much the same as per the comments in this video.
Great vid! As mentioned on twitter, I struggled like you with the car feeling too floaty and sensitive. This is how I make it feel more consistent: Wings: low front wing (2-4) and high rear wing (4-8). Diff: Anywhere from 50-85% depending on track, lower is better for catching tank slappers. Can set on throttle higher for qualifying to pump out that one lap pace, then drop it to 50-60% for the race. Usually 50/60% on throttle, 70% off is a good baseline for races. Both cambers max right, both toes max left. Springs (4-6) depending on track/curbs. Stiffen them if losing control of car under heavy braking (hairpins etc). Roll bars, have the rear set a little stiffer than the front. Something like 7 front, 8 rear is nice. May need to adjust for some tracks due to nature of corners. Ride height: set to 4 front, 5 rear for practically all tracks. Brake pressure: anywhere from 75-85% depending on preference and track. Brake bias: Suggest 54%-56%. Public Multiplayer is a blast for a quick laugh, as with any racing game, if you want a more respectful and authentic experience however - you're best off joining leagues that promote clean racing. Luckily F1 2019 have integrated this feature into the game which is a big plus in my eyes.
When compared to GT Sport or Assetto Corsa or the other sim style games F1 has always had strange physics for wheel drivers and they have not improved. F1 2019 physics is more of a disappointment than past years because their association with Fanatec and the Podium wheel base plus F1 style wheels led me to hope more emphasis would be placed on wheel driver physics. The default brake settings are really strange this year causing lock ups early in the braking zone that never used to happen in F1 2018. I have had to set my brakes linearity to 90 to allow at least some pressure on my break pedal before locking up. But the cornering physics does not take advantage of any of the provided feedback capabilities that are in modern wheels. No scrubbing vibration whenever under steer is being induced, no vibration when the brakes are about to lock up. Very disappointing indeed. You simply have to drive differently in F1 games than in any other sim style game, much more visual and less reliant on feedback feel
I don’t like the ffb either, it helped when I turned up the top flavor (can’t remember the name) But when it comes to the break it’s really about ur setup. I have played it with t3pa, and fanatec club sport. The fanatec break is so much better and easier to break on the limit with. For the t3pa I turned up linearity :p
As it's literally the only modern F1 game for this season and being a die hard F1 fan I just say, we get what we're given until someone else can make them 😂😂😂
@@majikku-chan thought as much :/ well like I said, unless you're willing to play last years season it's the best we have lol xD thanks for the info mate :)
In f1 2019 you need to be PROACTIVE when you drive ( remembering when and how the car will slip) where in other games you can be REACTIVE and maintain control of the car, where in f1 2019 when you react to a slip it’s too late and you’ve lost time . This is all about the bad handling model.
The tire wear rates during practice and qualifying are broken if you use 25% or 50% races. It's a really big barrier for newer players and prevents the game from having more commercial success.... ; )
Watching Jimmy's streams of this you can see the problems he has with the physics. Constant locking up and feeling like there's no downforce. Also I'm glad you mentioned the track modelling because I noticed it right away when I saw your multiplayer video at Interlagos. I've only ever driven there in GT Sport but even in F12019, the whole place looks really flat. The Senna S barely even looks like a corner. That said, I hope you get past it and carry on with your videos. I'm still disappointed I didn't get to see Raikkonen win every race in 2018.
Don't give up on F1! I'm really trying to get used to driving these crazy light hyper cars too. They feel floaty because they are so light. You are a much better driver than me and I really want to learn how to play as you do.
Completely agree with your thoughts about the physics. In GT Sport, you feel the track underneath your tyres whereas in F1 2019, it feels like you're driving a hovercraft. It feels awful, frustrating and unrewarding. Regret buying this game.
Hearing your comments on the physics is disappointing. That has been my issue with the games for a long time now. I thought maybe I was doing something wrong, but you're describing exactly the same feeling. I thought it felt like driving on ice. The car rotates and slides in ways that should be impossible.
I have f1 2012 and 2015 and 2012 is by far better. Th car feels planted asf in 2012, while in 2015 the car wiggles i ways it shouldt. I hope 2019 doesnt feel like that cos if it does im not gonna buy it
@@davemeese6788 agreed, I have 2013 and the feeling was much better then. I haven't played 2019 but based on what super gt said in the video I think we are out of luck.
I've found out that if you enable the self-centering spring on your wheel, it takes away some of the floatiness feeling, some wheels might not have it, but turning mine on helped make the car feel more direct
I used to play the f1 games every year (2009 up to 2016). Using a control pad for it definitely helped to get a better feel for games like Gt sport and project cars 2. But in a similar sense to other yearly sports games. There's not much more they can do. Other than swapping drivers and updating the cars. This year is just more of the same. What I'd like to see them try is an aero sculpting/car creation feature to actually create your own car. 1) Pick a base chassis from one of the existing cars. 2) pick the engine and brake manufacturers ect 3) then create your own weird, wacky and in most cases slower aero packages. In a wind tunnel. 4) have a game mode for created cars only.
After your first playtrough ; can you recommend the game ? I'm non asking for my self ; I don't like open wheel racing games . Very honest review . Thanks.
With the wheel what I did to make it feel heavier was increase a setting (I forgot what it's called) but it's essentially how much you feel the tyres and how they react. It really made the ffb a bunch better. Meant I could actually feel the tyres slip and be able to catch oversteer based on that and not just what I see on screen.
I think the reason behind the floaty vague physics in Codemasters games is the result of being designed primarily to work well with a controller as opposed to a wheel and pedals or to being realistic or authentic to an actual F1 car. Personally I don’t play this game because they still haven’t added VR support. I’m really getting fed up with Codemasters and probably won’t buy another of their titles without serious changes to their priorities for game design, pricing, etc. If you want to experience some phenomenal open wheel cars check out the recently released (and free) Tatuus pack for rFactor 2.
i dont like the physics either. it just feels completely different from gt sports or any other racing games i can kinda nail down the throttle without aid but i just need abs like you said you always lock up. i enjoy playing it but not without abs at least on, if i just want to have fun i even turn on tc to middle and racing lines cuz i have no idea where to break without practicing
I wonder if your settings are correct for your wheel for the physics aspect of it , I wouldn’t know as I only race 2018 so far and it was pretty realistic when I TH-cam the best settings and tried it ! Anyways was also wondering if the f2 could be raced in multiplayer ?
I have a strange relationship with Codemaster's games. When I was young I played ToCA Race Driver only because I didn't have a PS2 and Gran Turismo. I've played Dirt Rally only because there was no sequel to the RBR game. Now I play F1 because there is no alternative either. Codemasters found the way to make profit every year just like EA. So when you've became a monopoly you don't have to evolve and grow. For me Code's physics was shitty 15 years ago in ToCA games, it was shitty 10 years ago in GRID and it still absolute shit today. I don't understand how they do their "esport" it's beyond my comprehension (with alive iRacing). I disliked new story mode because when i buy an F1 game I want to race with the same racers I see every weekend. In this year these two nonexistent drivers are replacing two of the real one. Graphics somehow looks plastic from one year to another. And one more thing: record goddamit commentators from another countries. Not everybody watches Sky around the globe.
and honestly, if there is one voice in F1 that I am tired of, it's Crofty's. The man yells incessantly for almost the entirety of the broadcast and heaven forbid Martin Brundle try to share some technical insight or observation as a driver, Crofty will interrupt so fast just to say something dumb... oh it drives me nuts. I really wish they let Martin & Anthony, Nico or Karun take Crofty's spot, he adds nothing to the show and most of the time I can't hear the cars, team radio or the crowd he says is cheering over his yapping!
Fast Beat That doesn’t mean he cant comment on it. This isnt Mario Kart levels of arcade so he’s free to judge how they designed the driving model as compared to other sims and simcades. He’s been trying out iRacing recently and he’s still getting used to the feeling of that game then comparing it to F1 2019.
@@GTChucker86 I can understand but less people like full sims physics. People prefer ''simpler'' physics and that's why games like Forza Motosport or Horizon, NFS are more popular.
Fast Beat This game is supposed to bridge the gap between hardcore and casual. There is wider casual audience in the F1 games than in comparable motorsport titles which is why Codemasters cater to them more. Primarly controller users.
I was commenting more on the feel of the game. It feels as though you're constantly holding off on the brake and throttle. This isn't something that is necessarily makes it more accessible to everyone, if anything it makes it harder.
Speaking about the brakes gran turismo sport is exactly the same just turn ABS off and go into a VGT/Gr.1/Formula 1/Redbull x and you'll have to be extremely gentle on the brakes (at least with a controller).
He's with a wheel and pedals so in GT Sport he's able to modulate the brakes and throttle much better than a controller I think... but the idea that these cars don't require close to 60 kilos or whatever of braking force to get the brakes working at all is just wrong so to make the pedal so sensitive at the top of the stroke is odd. I could almost understand if it lets you slam on the brakes and expects you to get to 90-99% percent braking without hitting 100% where you would lock up and moving the lock up point up as the tires wear out but it's stupid sensitive all the time.
Iqbal Satrio Nindito context matters. Its good i dont have to manually do a start up procedure to start an F1 car but its bad that it doesnt feel close to the real thing when driving it.
I've just started playing this game (I know, I'm a year behind....it was on sale lol) and already I totally agree with your point about the throttle and brake sensitivity. I haven't even got out of the F2 car yet but man, it *does not* want you going full throttle or full brake at all, does it? You have to ease them both on so gently! I hope the F1 cars aren't quite as bad as that, but judging by this video, probably not lol I'm also not keen on how the F2 scenarios just throw you straight into the middle of a race and tell you to "compete!" straight away without having any practice or prior knowledge of the track. The second track (Spielberg?), I literally had no idea where I was going! I actually thought I was at Spa at first (which led to a huge crash and a restart lol). It took me multiple restarts just to gain a basic understanding of the track layout, so obviously........I was not competitive in the slightest. Currently I'm on the Abu Dhabi race, but it's been a few years since I've driven that track, so I really need a few laps to relearn it, but nope....just get on there and race it! Trying to learn it while all the cars are bunched up at the start of the race means I haven't even managed to survive one lap so far lol
Don't you guys think the reason why the car handling in Codemasters' F1 games is so stiff, skiddy and nervous is an overly simplified tyre model? Whenever I play F1 and the car starts to slide I feel there is something unnatural in the way the wheels interact with the track surface
On PC: - No Mouse steering support :( No TrackIR Support (yet) - Compared to other games, the handling is very strict, and without delicate inputs and sensitivities means I spin out nearly every corner if I press hard. (Also I'm bad) - Graphics (mainly the anti aliasing) could be improved. + Animations and the feel of being immersed in an F1 game is great.
I agree my favourite thing is the AI competitiveness as it is good to see them so things I would too gain places. Negative is you even look at some of the kerbs and you're fighting a spin it just feels like they have taken it to far in punishing you for clipping an apex kerb.
Finally someone speaks about the physics/handling of this game I thought I was the only one who found them weird. When I jump on games like Project Cars 2 or Assetto Corsa I barely need any time to get used to it but when I haven't played the F1 games in a while it's almost like a shock. It feels just wrong and as if it's not made for a steering wheel. Obviously I never drove an F1 car but I'm pretty sure these cars wouldn't feel like that. Also the contact physics are horrible for example when I touch the rear tyre of an opponent with my front tyre the opponent should spin and not me. My biggest problem with those games are general physics and handling. If that's not going to be on the level of other racing games I am not buying an F1 game anymore at least not for the full price.
Steven hitting the rear wheel of someone else in real life will spin you as it jerks the wheel cause it can turn. You can spin people if you really try to
@@jdrok5026 those games aren't made to be played on a pad especially Assetto Corsa. I would highly recommend buying a wheel as it's a lot more enjoyable and I know what I'm talking about I used to play with a pad for years. Now I have the Thrustmaster T150 for a few years which is a decent relatively cheap wheel which you can get for under 150$ dollars somewhere.
The weight thing is the same with the RSS mod from AC.. In slow corners steering is feather weight.. Whereas for example a gt3 car isn't as light. I don't know if its realistic or not. I think it also depends on what wheel you use. Fanatec CSW V2 here.
Would you mind sharing your settings you use on your Fanatec wheel? I have been struggling all day to get it right...🤔 Maybe it's because I've been playing GTSport since day one, I don't know, but indeed constant lockups, often sliding all over the place... But anyway, curious to find out ☺️
u re impression on the physic surprise me .. the way to be fast in this game is really close to GTs .. u have to hold the throttle through corner, get on it as early ae possible, the braking is mostly different because u need abs on GTs .. about the flowtiness of the cars .. i think its your FFB settings .. but i cant help u because im on a thrustmaster .. but i ll admit the tyre model is far from the best but its ways better than what it used to be. but to be quite fair im bias .. i really like Codemasters physics .. i find it very fun and less boaty than forza
I agree. As much as people like to go on about sim physics in other games, codemasters makes a fun racing game and the feel is actually great imo. I think the floatiness of the game is warranted bc these cars actually are floaty due to their agility. Perhaps the ffb isnt the greatest, but the physics model isnt that bad imo.
It takes time to adapt and learn the game. Being a TH-camr can be very taxing. It took me over a year to get good with a wheel, maybe I'm just trash, lol.
I think it takes him quite a while to edit videos as well. His karting videos for example are often 2 or 3 weeks after the actual race itself. Also that video with David Perel he uploaded I think 2 weeks after David did. Give him some time and he'll be uploading them. Just wish his discord was still up
I believe the physics has always been an issue for as long as i been playing. It does seem a little push on the gas peddle and its sideways or spin-out for sure. I have learned to upshift to dull the power also changing the differential to 50% unlocked on the off throttle to give the car more roll in the corners and to help heavy footed ppl helps. I run a 50%-65% on the differential. Breaks ive changed the break pressure to around 76. And put the front to back to 54-52 towards the back should help on lockups.
I've noticed the touchy brakes in other games. I adjust the deadzone to engage a little later so that way i can ease into the braking in a more fluid type of way. Dont know if that helps.
It is by far the most immersive racing game I've ever played, outside of the drivers seat. In the drivers seat, the F2 cars feel realistic, and the F1 cars seem physics defying and easy to drive fast, so long as you have rewinds for every spin out and lock up that are bound to happen.
I would suggest turning traction control to medium and moving the brake bias to the rear it just allows you to push the car without being so sensitive with the controls
I can’t stand the physics of F1 games in general, so it looks like it’s a good thing I wasn’t dragged into getting this one with all the propaganda posted by everyone lol
Teddavis17 its fun to play the game and its certainly a lot more realistic and immersive when compared to something like Forza 7 but if you’re used to Assetto and iRacing levels of driving feel then it takes a while to adjust to the simplified driving model of the codies F1 games. No other sim could replicate the immersiveness of being on an F1 paddock as much as a codies F1 game. If only the driving feel was a lot better
Great outro song and it must be said but R.I.P to the old one, however I'd just like to add that the show more section needs an update because the old outro song link is still there Sir RamaLot :)
I have not bought 19 but some of your comments definitely apply to 18 which I did a full race length weekend season on in my sweet Alfa. The physics don't seem quite right. I also found one track to the next the difficulty setting was worlds apart. I get some of that is on my lack of skills on certain tracks but some was definitely the programming. It would also vary significantly between practice, quali and race day. I found I would end up adjusting for each of those sessions to get the best competition.
I’m glad that you said it. You don’t drive it like a simulator. I absolutely hate this game on a wheel but yet I love Codemaster’s Dirt Rally series as it gives you a good sense of how a rally car should feel. But saying that. It has issues on tarmac as well. Physics for tarmac in codemasters game just feel too much like an arcade
I think the brake feel is down to your settings, I can really stomp on mine and I only need to let off slowly when the car slows down which is the thing with every high downforce car.
agree about the ai, i first noticed it in 2017 when for example ur on ur hot lap in quali how they actually give u space and obv how they do the complete oposite during races. But only reason im positing is that i wantd to say im struggling with the latest dirt rally and f1 games due to the physics, and its annoying me because for me at least with a controller everything is absolutely fine. But when i grab my wheel everything starts to fall apart. oh and it does not matter what device u play with the floating is so obvious if u have been playing titles that do things better ( there are many nowadays). ( tldr: controller = ok , wheel is driving a boat(Unless u push ffb up a lot wich also isnt right because it loses prgressiveness)
I think it's codemasters f1 now has pretty much the best career experience of any racing game. most racing games just have disconnected events you have to grind through, but f1 gives you actually the feeling of being part of a f1 season. In most other singleplayer racing games you pretty much allways want to be p1, but in f1 2019 it feels fucking great to be just p10 in a alfa, because that's a great achievement for the car's performance right now. SuperGT is completely ignoring in the multiplayer part, that there is the safety rating. It's like gt sport, you must escape the dirty low safety rating lobbys. Maybe brake at the start and finish last, but do all clean laps and suddenly you have clean racing.
Feeling doesn't exit in this game. I completely agree with you that these cars feel too lightly. I hope it will improve im next series since Slightly Mad is part of Codemasters.
The fact that we can't do the full 2018 F2 season saddens me. It would've been really entertaining. Really close racing with awesome cars. 3 not full races are not enough.
well it looks great visually, and good review......tho i havent played it yet, still on F1 2017 and enjoying it so far .....i doubt they will fix any of those issues u mentioned before 2020 is released in july apparently....Still a great series.
The worst thing for me is the F2 scenario section before F1. Nothing you do matters - I did it properly initially and got offered a contract from literally every team on the F1 grid. Then I restarted and crashed, retired etc and still got offered every team! I wish that there was an option to completed the full F2 season, with championship result deciding which F1 team you move to. There should have been 3 options - Full F2 season, Scenario F2 season, or Skip F2. Why not just have the option? Also is it just me or are all the car performances kinda wrong? Ive just been doing 25% GPs at the moment and McLaren are down in nearly last place and the Williams keep finishing 8th-12th!
@@jamesreed5174 That's good, just weird how they got it so wrong to begin with. I've played it a bit more and Kubica finished 7th and Gasly keeps out racing Verstappen! Force India are always in top 8, Stroll is too fast and the Toro Rossos are always last with McLaren. Kinda makes me not want to play it.
@@jamesbuckingham77 the original performances on the game are from testing and i think williams are bringing upgrades all the time in peoples career modes
The issues with locking up and spinning out were something that made me stop playing f1 2018. It had the same issue for me. I dont have a great wheel and pedal setup but could manage other games. It was really annoying in 2018.. I'll probably pass this year and wait till next year
After a long time without playing F1 games or gaming at all I get an XBox One. As one of the games I enjoyed the most was the Microprose Grand Prix one of the first titles I decided to buy was F1 2018. I really like it don't get my wrong and a HUGE improvements in terms of graphics since my gaming experience from the 90s but one thing I really miss is the ability to selected and play with multiple drivers it is imposible to win the Constructor Championship if you don't select on of the mayor teams. I would like to see local multiplayer capabilities and switching between drivers during the practice, qualification and races.
I thought that the cars were weightless until I scrapped my F1 2018 settings and re tuned them for this game. Now the car is really heavy and no longer rely on visuals.
@@Super_GT I'm using a Fanatec CSL Elite, F1 wheel in cockpit view. As with anything new, still tweaking the settings. In game: FFB: 150 On track: 20 Rumble: 20 Off track: 10 Wheel damper: 0 Understeer Enhanced: On Wheel Rotation: 360 Wheel settings: Sensitivity: Auto FFB: 80 Shock: 100 Abs: Off Drift Mode: Off Force: 100 Spring: 100 Damper: 100 FEI: 0 Don't need to tell someone like yourself it's personal preference, but immediately felt more like driving a Go kart and found soooooo much time.
I agree. From a pad user the physics are absolutely terrible. I want to play the game because it’s F1, but I can’t stand driving the cars. I just go back to Assetto Corsa every time. I also find the sounds are off and yes locking up happens far too much
I totally agree with you when it comes to the balance. I play with the AI at 95 and qualifying is soo difficult to get above 16th (even in a Red Bull) but the race itself is much easier. Don’t have this issue on the 18 version. Beautiful game though.
I did notice that in f1 2018 at some tracks, but it feels like it's more marked in this release. In F1 2018, in Monza, I the best car, and struggled to P5 on the grid, but in the race, using the same AI level, once I took the lead, I was just driving away from them. Really hope they can fix that, as it's frustrating not to get a proper challenge, or have to fight from way further back than ought to be the case. If I've messed up quali, then that's what I deserve, but sometimes, you feel like you've driven the wheels off and are nowhere near your team mate.
I haven't played an F1 game since 2012 (Co-op career mode where've you gone? 😖) And I've been playing GT Sport for the past couple years, I got this yesterday and after two days of playing the Ranked online races, I've got to say I've had so much fun. It's so nice to have a racing game I don't need to take seriously! Win the race? Cool, that was fun and a nice boost to my level; punted off mid race? I don't care, nothing at stake and it's all in good fun.
I feel like the handling is like being on ice. The uphill section at spar I always spin out because an F1 car in real life should be able to handle it pretty much flat out. In this game I always have to lift off for to get round. I also don’t like how when you are using a normal controller their is no feeling between what you input and what happens in game. The handling is almost feels like it doesn’t work.
It is most likely your setup, as the feeling I've had so far with everything, is that it tends to understeer. The way I drive, I'd like a bit of oversteer instead. Guess we both have work to do on our setups to dial them to suit our driving. Maybe for me, it's because I learned to drive in a rear wheel drive that was snappy at the back. :D
@@bruceparker1164 Ye, it's setup and possibly driving style - hitting the throttle too early etc can be a problem for many. I prefer a more understeer setup that feels solid and just use gear manipulation for rotation. Different strokes for different folks!
As far as multiplayer goes - Unranked can be a ... I don't even have words for it. It really should be called 'evading noobs' or 'f1karts' after mario karts. However, if you play ranked and get to your S licence, then you can have some decent racing with respectful drivers and it can be indeed a lot of fun based on pure racing back and forth.
F1 2018s physics felt excellent to me. Now locking up the brakes with the slightest touch and the inconsistencies with the throttle have been making it hard to enjoy the game. At first I thought it was my screens refresh rate haha.
I wish you could do the full 2018 F2 season before moving into F1
Yup, I'd love that.
You can do a full F2 Season but you have to drive with an official driver and there's no story.
@@woiso3257 thats my point,i wish you could do a full F2 season before you move into F1
I mean, the game is called F1, not F1 and F2, but it'd be pretty cool
@@gabrielmendonca3225 They have the F2 license and all of the tracks. It was a poor implementation IMO. Why not at least have the option of doing the whole season?
7:10 penalties like that one are unnecessary, when I get penalties like that one I turn on the Alonso radio mode
"It's a yoke!"
"YoU AlWaYs LeAvE a SpAcE!!!" 😂😂😂
There's strict corner cutting and regular but strict is the right way to do it because regular is way too forgiving
^^^ Agreed, GT sport isn't perfect but imagine it without a penalty system, would be hell
Also penalties when someone crashes into you from ahead of you and spins out, and its an illegal overtake
The career mode is annoying. When you transfer to another team it just acts like nothing happened. They should have made it more detailed with the press conferences and what it’s like to be a F1 driver
F1 2016 and F1 2017 did a great job compared to 2018 and 2019 in this situation.
@@Lego___ the game would be like 120gb then.
@@trl_apod F1 2016 and F1 2017 had cutscenes. Sometimes Chris will talk to you about a part failing or upgrading, Emma can talk to you about doing well in races or doing badly and warning you about possibly being fired.
It really wouldnt change the file size a lot, its just cutscenes that were already in previous games. Were talking mb to single digit gb. Not a sudden spike to 120.
@@Lego___ I wanted to reply to the other guy with the press conferences.We dont need that much realism
MP sucks becuase every kid thinks hes Ayrton Senna god after playing a few career rounds at 75 difficulty, and tries to race the same against other people online.
Wilco Muurling
That’s online racing for you. Gotta find the people who are good to race with, friend them and run your own races.
AOR is awesome.
Wilco Muurling lol I am a kid but at least I train at every circuit until I am as good as 100 AI.
Join an online league. Worked for me. I only play this game now to prepare for league races 😂
Not sure what the rating system is now for 2019 MP but I remember aiming for A rating on 2018 and having to trawl through atleast 10 destruction derby type D races until I started seeing racers who knew how to race. The only way I got out if the shite groups was to purposely stay at the back for clean races to up my percentage.
I've actually really enjoyed the game. It's so different than other racing games, but I love how immersive it is
Try F1 on Assetto Corsa in VR.... now that's Immersive!!
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Haha real talk about assetto
Assetto is immersive when you’re driving. F1 2019 is immersive when you’re in the paddock. Too bad we cant have both 😕
@@GTChucker86 it's like Fifa and Pes 😂😂😂
I haven't played 2019 yet, but your complaints about the driving physics accurately describe the problem I have with 2018. It's way too light, almost like I'm playing a flight game without a road, or F-Zero
funnily enough i bounced right off 2018 for jsut that reason, 2017 and before was fine... i pit it down to having gotten used to forza7 for a while before 2018 came out.... but really, wasn't able to get round albert prk in the way i was used to from the earlier games and .. couldn't be arsed to put in the time really.
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F-Zero was incredible
I've never found it THAT light. It's not a go-kart either. This debate was had in F1... Verstappen puts it like this, go-karts tire your arms, F1 cars tire your neck.
I’m real life you’ll usually see Hamilton between 59-63% brake bias towards the front.... in F1 you need 53-56% brake bias to make the car stick under heavy braking how you want... I agree completely in GT Sport you can feel the car and make real time decisions.... F1 almost feels like the world is sped up... and the car can be way to twitchy with a bad setup....
bahrain looks spectacular on this game
Singapore looks like real life as well they even included camera flashes on the slower corners
ikr, thats thanks to the incorporation of ray and audio tracing. The technology is still in it infancy but im hoping more devs pay attention to it especially with the emergence of 4k resolution screens
End of race commentary in career mode is much-improved over 2018.
I agree with all points 100%
As a competitive player of F1 games in leagues such as AOR F1, it really does bug me with all these issues, such as the physics. So annoying.
Does it feel good enough on a wheel to be worth buying? Or is it just frustrating
@@mariocloud2738 It does, of course within a certain limit. I would not buy a wheel only to play F1, but if you are a racing enthusiast, give it a shot.
I don't know what they do handling but it's realy sh*it! I have input lag or it just feels that. I can not feel tyres so you don't know when you lock up tires or when tires spin. Car also slides high speed corners it is floating. Previous game i know when i can put full throttle but know i just have to gues. Also i have to try learn trail braking again becouse tyres seem lock up so easily. I'm really disappointed about physic.......😤 I drive on wheel so it can be better on pad but i don't know.
Handling was ok for me at least compared DiRT rally 2.0 tarmac
I’ve been playing this on a controller and it hard AF.... I’m getting a wheel and I’m a carpenter so I’ll make a rig 😂
Man you're going to see when you get your wheel it's so amazing, its night and day compared to playing with a controller
I want a proper wheel setup so bad I just don’t have the money. Plus if I go to uni I’m not gonna have the space for it
Some controller players are some of the fastest players in the world. It’s just about skill and what suits you
why not make the wheel as well if you're a "carpenter"?
ZZBossGaming I’m a controller player I have a wheel but I just struggle so much with it.it will be controller for me this year
One of the worst things is that the crashes aren't the best if I go into a wall it should put me in it not bounce off
Hitting the rear should wreck your gearbox. When on pro mode you cant replay. Side pods cant even be damaged only the front wing which is lazily modelled
Its not due to laziness as far as i know they are not licensed to do visible damage to the car more than front wing/tyres
My friend is working at codies and said there is problem with damage. They want better damage, but license is the problem.
And if someone crashes into your right side tgen your left side front wing breaks xD no sence
t-money 77 yep, codies are one of the damage pioneers, has to be licensing
The "floatyness" of F1 games is why I appreciate the W08 in gtsport. GT's handling physics are very solid especially on max ffb and with the F1 car it's very easy to feel every bit of the road in your hands. Transitioning from the W08 in sport and playing a codemasters game the lack of feeling the physics are very noticeable.
Anthos Lykos GT Sport gets the overall physics better than the codies F1 games but still you lack full control of the car’s actual capabilities as the W08 in GT Sport doesnt let you control or fine tune the ERS as done in the codies game. The codies game feels more immersive in the paddock but GT Sport feels more immersive in the driving aspect
Yeah it’s better in some way but bad in others. The gears fear ridiculously slow in GT Sport for the WO8 but the on power seems right
Alfred Rodriguez another pet peeve of everyone with the W08 in GT Sport is that the DRS flap acts like an active spoiler on road cars. It opens all the time on every straight and there are no DRS Zones
Bahahahaha
I think the constant ERS management is pretty annoying. Like Norris said when he played it, you are managing the ERS I. This game way more than in an actual F1 car
You didn't mention it in the video, but is there a "Get in there, Lewis" mode?
Haha nice one :)
It's hammer time
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The crash damage hasn’t been updated since 2010. I hit a wall and I either bounce off unscathed or a wheel falls off. It’s 2019 and the damage sim is from the original PlayStation.
That's mostly down to FOM, rather then Codies
Spot on about the brakes. For the past few games now, the lock ups have been absolutely ridiculous. You have to constantly feather the brake pedal and really nail your braking spots. I don't get how they haven't fixed it yet. In real life, the drivers use the force of deceleration to push themselves full force into the brake pedal with barely any lock ups, assuming they don't steer at the same time.
Exactly, IRL they are pushing on the brake with 60 kilos of weight or whatever it is and they are having to modulate at the bottom of the pedal, not at the top.
Yes thank you, finally someone said it how it is with physics in this game! It's unrealistic to say the least. No traction is nonsese, as you need to be as precise as the surgeon with your inputs. Same goes with brakes and lock ups.
I actually refunded the game because the physics feel so weird. Going from a sim like Assetto Corsa to this feels off. Feels almost like you either have zero downforce or infinite downforce.
Assetto is a proper sim though, whereas this is aimed at the casual market with just a light bit of realism. Anyone playing a game like Assetto aught to have known that before even buying the game
I agree on the physics, it feels not right at all. Lando Norris says that the game isnt even close to real life F1. But codemasters is doing casual games for years, so i think we cant expect really more from them. For me the F1 series are games wich i play here and there. I would play it more if they include more features to career mode in the future.
Gonzo S3B interesting. What did Lando say, exactly? I think the physics on the F1 cars feel really solid - and very planted. I do have ABS on so I can’t speak on the touchy brakes but the rest is good.
@@paintsplatta99 I remember him speaking about the ERS, that in real life you dont need to change it nearly as much as in the game
Yeah he compared it to iRacing a lot and kept on saying iRacing feels miles better than F12019 which is to be expected but he praised the immersiveness of the actual lifestyle of F1 in the game but other than that he wasnt too impressed
@@GTChucker86 Because he is a hardcore F1 racing driver and a sim racer. Off cores he doesn't impressed this is a game for 10 years old to the 60 years old. If Codemasters build a 100% sim nobody will play beside the hardcore sim racers who has the 15000€ rig for that.
I can't speak for wheel users, but on the pad, the driving has been amazing since 2016. The rumble motors on the triggers play a key part in my driving. It's pretty subconscious, but the moment they are turned off, I lock up, spin out etc.
Yup..the rumble motors gives a very good feedback as to how far we can push the car and when its time to back off. Without it - the driving experience would so difficult and a less realistic feel. Those using the wheel would probably have that problem I guess.
I use ABS and have traction control on Medium, it feels a lot better and not as floaty. It's helped me to not jam the brakes and I have now turned ABS off and I'm not locking up as much. Everyone has different preferences but that's what has worked for me so far.
Same....the game is much more fun to play with those on medium, dont care what anyone says
if you turn on ABS and TC on medium and mess with the pedal calibration it feels great honestly
It might feel great but but it's less realistic as modes like TC are banned, and I feel its slower as when you go to the event game modes the top players never have them, know I understand that's because they want there shot at the Esports but the top players are still faster than the first with TC or ABS
Am Nah i mean id rather take enjoyment over realism sometimes
As a casual racer I enjoy it quite a bit. F1 is also really well suited to a controller ironically since your turns tend to be fully locked out.
Yes it was designed to be played on a pad, just like all other Codies games.
Play 2017 on a pad. Tell us how it goes when you get to Monaco. That game is what ultimately influenced my decision to buy a wheel, pedals, and h-pattern shifter for other sim driving games.
@@212809 DiRT rally series wasnt designed to on controller
Yes you can by adjust option but its hard son of bitch
Once you get a good safety rating, multiplayer is spot on then
Talking about floating. I agree. But it's the same when pitting, the cars aren't lifted in the air. Tyres are taken off, changed and new ones on and when you release theres no noticeable feel that you're ready to release the clutch and go. Been caught a few tenths because of this. 😥
Being honest, I don't like the career mode in 2019.
F1 2017 still has the best career mode in the series.
Yes, there isn't the Devon Butler and Lucas Weber rivalry.
And Yes, there aren't any interviews with Claire, but F1 2017 felt much more alive.
Performing well? You are talked to, face-to-face about it.
Performing poorly? Yet again, you are confronted about it.
Not investing in car development? Chris (the R&D Engineer) will confront you about how the car needs more upgrades.
Constantly investing in development? Chris will confront you about how the car is gaining pace.
Failed component? Chris himself tells you that the part failed.
Passed component? Chris himself tells you that the part is now on the car.
And the Classic F1 car owner confronts you early in the career mode, offering you to drive his cars.
F1 2018-2019
How does your (new, and honestly inferior to the 2016-2017 one) engineer and agent confront you?
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Well sadly not every racing game uses this career mode
Sad
Just bought this game bc of your videos. Loving it so far!
100% agree on the track models (and other points as well), but I feel the track model topic should be brought up more often. The root for a lot of these track models is still based on F1 2010 and at this stage I find that unacceptable. It really hit home when MotoGP 19, also an annual title, came out this year with track models that look absolutely fantastic. It's high time for Codies to give the track models in F1 a facelift, because some tracks in F1 might actually score worst in class compared these tracks that feature in other racing games.
Make sure you turn down the degree's of rotation on your wheel. That's something a lot of people forget to do when they play F1 games. They use somewhere between 720 and 1080 degree's for every other type of racing, but when you come to formula one, you really have to drop it down to 360. There's no other way to play it. If you don't, it will always feel strange. Once you turn the weight up, because you're not really moving the wheel as much to turn the car, the weirdness of the force feedback becomes less of an issue.
Yeah, I pretty much always use 360 on every game and was already on that for this game.
About braking, you exactly need to slam it and then easy up with it. For an example T2 in Austria, you slam brakes at 100m, keep it for 50m and then start easing up, last part of braking comes though gears. If you lock up, it’s basically because too high brake bias, too high brake pressure, too long holding brakes or turning at the same time.
About steering hard to say how well it’s modeled as currently it’s completally opposite to what it was in F1 2019. However it was easy to notice that F1 cars have power steering and F2 cars don’t as F2 cars were a lot heavier.
LR Arttu1202, if I coast while braking, I usually lose the car
I liked F1 2018 career mode, but when I get back to play GT Sport I noticed how unrealistic was F1 2018, I assume this is pretty much the same as per the comments in this video.
Great vid! As mentioned on twitter, I struggled like you with the car feeling too floaty and sensitive.
This is how I make it feel more consistent:
Wings: low front wing (2-4) and high rear wing (4-8).
Diff: Anywhere from 50-85% depending on track, lower is better for catching tank slappers. Can set on throttle higher for qualifying to pump out that one lap pace, then drop it to 50-60% for the race. Usually 50/60% on throttle, 70% off is a good baseline for races.
Both cambers max right, both toes max left.
Springs (4-6) depending on track/curbs. Stiffen them if losing control of car under heavy braking (hairpins etc).
Roll bars, have the rear set a little stiffer than the front. Something like 7 front, 8 rear is nice. May need to adjust for some tracks due to nature of corners.
Ride height: set to 4 front, 5 rear for practically all tracks.
Brake pressure: anywhere from 75-85% depending on preference and track.
Brake bias: Suggest 54%-56%.
Public Multiplayer is a blast for a quick laugh, as with any racing game, if you want a more respectful and authentic experience however - you're best off joining leagues that promote clean racing. Luckily F1 2019 have integrated this feature into the game which is a big plus in my eyes.
Also, Codemasters have said they are fully adding F2 to the game, championships and all, just takes time.
Only two tracks I feel comfortable using the default setup: China and Silverstone. Minor adjustments to diff and brake bias is all you need for them!
When compared to GT Sport or Assetto Corsa or the other sim style games F1 has always had strange physics for wheel drivers and they have not improved. F1 2019 physics is more of a disappointment than past years because their association with Fanatec and the Podium wheel base plus F1 style wheels led me to hope more emphasis would be placed on wheel driver physics. The default brake settings are really strange this year causing lock ups early in the braking zone that never used to happen in F1 2018. I have had to set my brakes linearity to 90 to allow at least some pressure on my break pedal before locking up. But the cornering physics does not take advantage of any of the provided feedback capabilities that are in modern wheels. No scrubbing vibration whenever under steer is being induced, no vibration when the brakes are about to lock up. Very disappointing indeed. You simply have to drive differently in F1 games than in any other sim style game, much more visual and less reliant on feedback feel
I don’t like the ffb either, it helped when I turned up the top flavor (can’t remember the name)
But when it comes to the break it’s really about ur setup. I have played it with t3pa, and fanatec club sport. The fanatec break is so much better and easier to break on the limit with. For the t3pa I turned up linearity :p
As it's literally the only modern F1 game for this season and being a die hard F1 fan I just say, we get what we're given until someone else can make them 😂😂😂
No one else can because Codemasters own the rights.
@@majikku-chan thought as much :/ well like I said, unless you're willing to play last years season it's the best we have lol xD thanks for the info mate :)
New to f1 but personally I don't like the lobbies in unranked I wish there was a quick match feature kinda how COD works
BLXDE not enough people play for that to be viable.
In f1 2019 you need to be PROACTIVE when you drive ( remembering when and how the car will slip) where in other games you can be REACTIVE and maintain control of the car, where in f1 2019 when you react to a slip it’s too late and you’ve lost time . This is all about the bad handling model.
The tire wear rates during practice and qualifying are broken if you use 25% or 50% races. It's a really big barrier for newer players and prevents the game from having more commercial success.... ; )
Watching Jimmy's streams of this you can see the problems he has with the physics. Constant locking up and feeling like there's no downforce.
Also I'm glad you mentioned the track modelling because I noticed it right away when I saw your multiplayer video at Interlagos. I've only ever driven there in GT Sport but even in F12019, the whole place looks really flat. The Senna S barely even looks like a corner.
That said, I hope you get past it and carry on with your videos. I'm still disappointed I didn't get to see Raikkonen win every race in 2018.
Don't give up on F1! I'm really trying to get used to driving these crazy light hyper cars too. They feel floaty because they are so light. You are a much better driver than me and I really want to learn how to play as you do.
They are light indeed but with all the downforce and grip, they should feel heavy.
Completely agree with your thoughts about the physics. In GT Sport, you feel the track underneath your tyres whereas in F1 2019, it feels like you're driving a hovercraft. It feels awful, frustrating and unrewarding. Regret buying this game.
SingleFiler F2 definitely drives a lot more better than F1 and I could feel the car more. But thats not saying much
Hearing your comments on the physics is disappointing. That has been my issue with the games for a long time now. I thought maybe I was doing something wrong, but you're describing exactly the same feeling. I thought it felt like driving on ice. The car rotates and slides in ways that should be impossible.
I have f1 2012 and 2015 and 2012 is by far better. Th car feels planted asf in 2012, while in 2015 the car wiggles i ways it shouldt. I hope 2019 doesnt feel like that cos if it does im not gonna buy it
@@davemeese6788 agreed, I have 2013 and the feeling was much better then. I haven't played 2019 but based on what super gt said in the video I think we are out of luck.
Have you considered turning the force feedback up to the maximum? That helps with the lightness of the feel of the car.
Already on max
Super GT big boy
I've found out that if you enable the self-centering spring on your wheel, it takes away some of the floatiness feeling, some wheels might not have it, but turning mine on helped make the car feel more direct
I used to play the f1 games every year (2009 up to 2016).
Using a control pad for it definitely helped to get a better feel for games like Gt sport and project cars 2.
But in a similar sense to other yearly sports games. There's not much more they can do. Other than swapping drivers and updating the cars. This year is just more of the same.
What I'd like to see them try is an aero sculpting/car creation feature to actually create your own car.
1) Pick a base chassis from one of the existing cars.
2) pick the engine and brake manufacturers ect
3) then create your own weird, wacky and in most cases slower aero packages. In a wind tunnel.
4) have a game mode for created cars only.
After your first playtrough ; can you recommend the game ?
I'm non asking for my self ; I don't like open wheel racing games .
Very honest review .
Thanks.
With the wheel what I did to make it feel heavier was increase a setting (I forgot what it's called) but it's essentially how much you feel the tyres and how they react. It really made the ffb a bunch better. Meant I could actually feel the tyres slip and be able to catch oversteer based on that and not just what I see on screen.
I think the reason behind the floaty vague physics in Codemasters games is the result of being designed primarily to work well with a controller as opposed to a wheel and pedals or to being realistic or authentic to an actual F1 car.
Personally I don’t play this game because they still haven’t added VR support. I’m really getting fed up with Codemasters and probably won’t buy another of their titles without serious changes to their priorities for game design, pricing, etc.
If you want to experience some phenomenal open wheel cars check out the recently released (and free) Tatuus pack for rFactor 2.
i dont like the physics either. it just feels completely different from gt sports or any other racing games i can kinda nail down the throttle without aid but i just need abs like you said you always lock up. i enjoy playing it but not without abs at least on, if i just want to have fun i even turn on tc to middle and racing lines cuz i have no idea where to break without practicing
I wonder if your settings are correct for your wheel for the physics aspect of it , I wouldn’t know as I only race 2018 so far and it was pretty realistic when I TH-cam the best settings and tried it ! Anyways was also wondering if the f2 could be raced in multiplayer ?
I have a strange relationship with Codemaster's games. When I was young I played ToCA Race Driver only because I didn't have a PS2 and Gran Turismo. I've played Dirt Rally only because there was no sequel to the RBR game. Now I play F1 because there is no alternative either. Codemasters found the way to make profit every year just like EA. So when you've became a monopoly you don't have to evolve and grow. For me Code's physics was shitty 15 years ago in ToCA games, it was shitty 10 years ago in GRID and it still absolute shit today. I don't understand how they do their "esport" it's beyond my comprehension (with alive iRacing). I disliked new story mode because when i buy an F1 game I want to race with the same racers I see every weekend. In this year these two nonexistent drivers are replacing two of the real one. Graphics somehow looks plastic from one year to another. And one more thing: record goddamit commentators from another countries. Not everybody watches Sky around the globe.
and honestly, if there is one voice in F1 that I am tired of, it's Crofty's. The man yells incessantly for almost the entirety of the broadcast and heaven forbid Martin Brundle try to share some technical insight or observation as a driver, Crofty will interrupt so fast just to say something dumb... oh it drives me nuts. I really wish they let Martin & Anthony, Nico or Karun take Crofty's spot, he adds nothing to the show and most of the time I can't hear the cars, team radio or the crowd he says is cheering over his yapping!
Physics...Bro it's an arcade game, it's meant to be for everyone.
Fast Beat That doesn’t mean he cant comment on it. This isnt Mario Kart levels of arcade so he’s free to judge how they designed the driving model as compared to other sims and simcades. He’s been trying out iRacing recently and he’s still getting used to the feeling of that game then comparing it to F1 2019.
@@GTChucker86 I can understand but less people like full sims physics. People prefer ''simpler'' physics and that's why games like Forza Motosport or Horizon, NFS are more popular.
Fast Beat This game is supposed to bridge the gap between hardcore and casual. There is wider casual audience in the F1 games than in comparable motorsport titles which is why Codemasters cater to them more. Primarly controller users.
I was commenting more on the feel of the game. It feels as though you're constantly holding off on the brake and throttle. This isn't something that is necessarily makes it more accessible to everyone, if anything it makes it harder.
Speaking about the brakes gran turismo sport is exactly the same just turn ABS off and go into a VGT/Gr.1/Formula 1/Redbull x and you'll have to be extremely gentle on the brakes (at least with a controller).
He's with a wheel and pedals so in GT Sport he's able to modulate the brakes and throttle much better than a controller I think... but the idea that these cars don't require close to 60 kilos or whatever of braking force to get the brakes working at all is just wrong so to make the pedal so sensitive at the top of the stroke is odd. I could almost understand if it lets you slam on the brakes and expects you to get to 90-99% percent braking without hitting 100% where you would lock up and moving the lock up point up as the tires wear out but it's stupid sensitive all the time.
Good thing about it: its not a sim. Bad thing about it: its not a sim.
Iqbal Satrio Nindito context matters. Its good i dont have to manually do a start up procedure to start an F1 car but its bad that it doesnt feel close to the real thing when driving it.
I've just started playing this game (I know, I'm a year behind....it was on sale lol) and already I totally agree with your point about the throttle and brake sensitivity. I haven't even got out of the F2 car yet but man, it *does not* want you going full throttle or full brake at all, does it? You have to ease them both on so gently! I hope the F1 cars aren't quite as bad as that, but judging by this video, probably not lol
I'm also not keen on how the F2 scenarios just throw you straight into the middle of a race and tell you to "compete!" straight away without having any practice or prior knowledge of the track. The second track (Spielberg?), I literally had no idea where I was going! I actually thought I was at Spa at first (which led to a huge crash and a restart lol). It took me multiple restarts just to gain a basic understanding of the track layout, so obviously........I was not competitive in the slightest. Currently I'm on the Abu Dhabi race, but it's been a few years since I've driven that track, so I really need a few laps to relearn it, but nope....just get on there and race it! Trying to learn it while all the cars are bunched up at the start of the race means I haven't even managed to survive one lap so far lol
Don't you guys think the reason why the car handling in Codemasters' F1 games is so stiff, skiddy and nervous is an overly simplified tyre model? Whenever I play F1 and the car starts to slide I feel there is something unnatural in the way the wheels interact with the track surface
On PC:
- No Mouse steering support :( No TrackIR Support (yet)
- Compared to other games, the handling is very strict, and without delicate inputs and sensitivities means I spin out nearly every corner if I press hard. (Also I'm bad)
- Graphics (mainly the anti aliasing) could be improved.
+ Animations and the feel of being immersed in an F1 game is great.
I agree my favourite thing is the AI competitiveness as it is good to see them so things I would too gain places.
Negative is you even look at some of the kerbs and you're fighting a spin it just feels like they have taken it to far in punishing you for clipping an apex kerb.
Finally someone speaks about the physics/handling of this game I thought I was the only one who found them weird. When I jump on games like Project Cars 2 or Assetto Corsa I barely need any time to get used to it but when I haven't played the F1 games in a while it's almost like a shock.
It feels just wrong and as if it's not made for a steering wheel. Obviously I never drove an F1 car but I'm pretty sure these cars wouldn't feel like that.
Also the contact physics are horrible for example when I touch the rear tyre of an opponent with my front tyre the opponent should spin and not me.
My biggest problem with those games are general physics and handling.
If that's not going to be on the level of other racing games I am not buying an F1 game anymore at least not for the full price.
Steven hitting the rear wheel of someone else in real life will spin you as it jerks the wheel cause it can turn. You can spin people if you really try to
Project cars feels jarring as all hell and same for asseto atleast on a pad both of those feel like trash just jumping back on them after awhile.
@@jdrok5026 those games aren't made to be played on a pad especially Assetto Corsa. I would highly recommend buying a wheel as it's a lot more enjoyable and I know what I'm talking about I used to play with a pad for years. Now I have the Thrustmaster T150 for a few years which is a decent relatively cheap wheel which you can get for under 150$ dollars somewhere.
If they nailed the physics this would have been an awesome game from the go!!
I struggle with the feel as well, but with the new features and now that I have a wheel I’m enjoying 2019 more than 2018.
Nice new outro!
The weight thing is the same with the RSS mod from AC.. In slow corners steering is feather weight.. Whereas for example a gt3 car isn't as light. I don't know if its realistic or not. I think it also depends on what wheel you use. Fanatec CSW V2 here.
Would you mind sharing your settings you use on your Fanatec wheel? I have been struggling all day to get it right...🤔
Maybe it's because I've been playing GTSport since day one, I don't know, but indeed constant lockups, often sliding all over the place...
But anyway, curious to find out ☺️
u re impression on the physic surprise me .. the way to be fast in this game is really close to GTs .. u have to hold the throttle through corner, get on it as early ae possible, the braking is mostly different because u need abs on GTs ..
about the flowtiness of the cars .. i think its your FFB settings .. but i cant help u because im on a thrustmaster .. but i ll admit the tyre model is far from the best but its ways better than what it used to be.
but to be quite fair im bias .. i really like Codemasters physics .. i find it very fun and less boaty than forza
I agree. As much as people like to go on about sim physics in other games, codemasters makes a fun racing game and the feel is actually great imo. I think the floatiness of the game is warranted bc these cars actually are floaty due to their agility. Perhaps the ffb isnt the greatest, but the physics model isnt that bad imo.
You said you were moving into iRacing. Where is the iRacing content?
It takes time to adapt and learn the game. Being a TH-camr can be very taxing. It took me over a year to get good with a wheel, maybe I'm just trash, lol.
@@kironsaha2679 Cool, didn't think he is practicing off camera. Thanks.
I think it takes him quite a while to edit videos as well. His karting videos for example are often 2 or 3 weeks after the actual race itself. Also that video with David Perel he uploaded I think 2 weeks after David did. Give him some time and he'll be uploading them. Just wish his discord was still up
@@HartyBiker That discord server was lit
Super GT has obviously forgotten to mention the unlimited supply of weed that is given to HAAS drivers. +5 sec penalty
I believe the physics has always been an issue for as long as i been playing. It does seem a little push on the gas peddle and its sideways or spin-out for sure. I have learned to upshift to dull the power also changing the differential to 50% unlocked on the off throttle to give the car more roll in the corners and to help heavy footed ppl helps. I run a 50%-65% on the differential. Breaks ive changed the break pressure to around 76. And put the front to back to 54-52 towards the back should help on lockups.
Correction. On the differential its: 50%-locked-on throttle and 65%-unlocked-off throttle
I've noticed the touchy brakes in other games. I adjust the deadzone to engage a little later so that way i can ease into the braking in a more fluid type of way. Dont know if that helps.
It is by far the most immersive racing game I've ever played, outside of the drivers seat. In the drivers seat, the F2 cars feel realistic, and the F1 cars seem physics defying and easy to drive fast, so long as you have rewinds for every spin out and lock up that are bound to happen.
I would suggest turning traction control to medium and moving the brake bias to the rear it just allows you to push the car without being so sensitive with the controls
I want to buy F1 2019, but ive only played the F1 2018 demo. Would u recommend this game ??
I can’t stand the physics of F1 games in general, so it looks like it’s a good thing I wasn’t dragged into getting this one with all the propaganda posted by everyone lol
Teddavis17 its fun to play the game and its certainly a lot more realistic and immersive when compared to something like Forza 7 but if you’re used to Assetto and iRacing levels of driving feel then it takes a while to adjust to the simplified driving model of the codies F1 games. No other sim could replicate the immersiveness of being on an F1 paddock as much as a codies F1 game. If only the driving feel was a lot better
I don't like the mercedes wrong model at the game start
You have to update the game. Thats a spec car
Great outro song and it must be said but R.I.P to the old one, however I'd just like to add that the show more section needs an update because the old outro song link is still there Sir RamaLot :)
Oh look its F1 2020 😂
thats right
I have not bought 19 but some of your comments definitely apply to 18 which I did a full race length weekend season on in my sweet Alfa. The physics don't seem quite right. I also found one track to the next the difficulty setting was worlds apart. I get some of that is on my lack of skills on certain tracks but some was definitely the programming. It would also vary significantly between practice, quali and race day. I found I would end up adjusting for each of those sessions to get the best competition.
I’m glad that you said it. You don’t drive it like a simulator. I absolutely hate this game on a wheel but yet I love Codemaster’s Dirt Rally series as it gives you a good sense of how a rally car should feel. But saying that. It has issues on tarmac as well. Physics for tarmac in codemasters game just feel too much like an arcade
Yeah, codes have had issues I feel with getting a good weighty feel on any tarmac racing across all of their games.
I think the brake feel is down to your settings, I can really stomp on mine and I only need to let off slowly when the car slows down which is the thing with every high downforce car.
agree about the ai, i first noticed it in 2017 when for example ur on ur hot lap in quali how they actually give u space and obv how they do the complete oposite during races. But only reason im positing is that i wantd to say im struggling with the latest dirt rally and f1 games due to the physics, and its annoying me because for me at least with a controller everything is absolutely fine. But when i grab my wheel everything starts to fall apart. oh and it does not matter what device u play with the floating is so obvious if u have been playing titles that do things better ( there are many nowadays). ( tldr: controller = ok , wheel is driving a boat(Unless u push ffb up a lot wich also isnt right because it loses prgressiveness)
I think it's codemasters f1 now has pretty much the best career experience of any racing game. most racing games just have disconnected events you have to grind through, but f1 gives you actually the feeling of being part of a f1 season. In most other singleplayer racing games you pretty much allways want to be p1, but in f1 2019 it feels fucking great to be just p10 in a alfa, because that's a great achievement for the car's performance right now.
SuperGT is completely ignoring in the multiplayer part, that there is the safety rating. It's like gt sport, you must escape the dirty low safety rating lobbys. Maybe brake at the start and finish last, but do all clean laps and suddenly you have clean racing.
Feeling doesn't exit in this game. I completely agree with you that these cars feel too lightly. I hope it will improve im next series since Slightly Mad is part of Codemasters.
I need help! For multiplayer, should I run hotlap setups or Grand Prix setups for the tracks I'd race. They're usually about 5 laps long.
Tommy1703 notlap if you want to kill your tyres lol
im really tempted to get this, but can you change the difficulty from race to race in the story mode?
In career mode, yes. The only time you wouldnt be able to change it is during the beginning F2 part of the career.
The fact that we can't do the full 2018 F2 season saddens me. It would've been really entertaining. Really close racing with awesome cars. 3 not full races are not enough.
well it looks great visually, and good review......tho i havent played it yet, still on F1 2017 and enjoying it so far .....i doubt they will fix any of those issues u mentioned before 2020 is released in july apparently....Still a great series.
The worst thing for me is the F2 scenario section before F1. Nothing you do matters - I did it properly initially and got offered a contract from literally every team on the F1 grid. Then I restarted and crashed, retired etc and still got offered every team!
I wish that there was an option to completed the full F2 season, with championship result deciding which F1 team you move to. There should have been 3 options - Full F2 season, Scenario F2 season, or Skip F2. Why not just have the option?
Also is it just me or are all the car performances kinda wrong? Ive just been doing 25% GPs at the moment and McLaren are down in nearly last place and the Williams keep finishing 8th-12th!
codies will release a patch to fix performances
@@jamesreed5174 That's good, just weird how they got it so wrong to begin with. I've played it a bit more and Kubica finished 7th and Gasly keeps out racing Verstappen! Force India are always in top 8, Stroll is too fast and the Toro Rossos are always last with McLaren. Kinda makes me not want to play it.
@@jamesbuckingham77 the original performances on the game are from testing and i think williams are bringing upgrades all the time in peoples career modes
The issues with locking up and spinning out were something that made me stop playing f1 2018. It had the same issue for me. I dont have a great wheel and pedal setup but could manage other games. It was really annoying in 2018.. I'll probably pass this year and wait till next year
After a long time without playing F1 games or gaming at all I get an XBox One. As one of the games I enjoyed the most was the Microprose Grand Prix one of the first titles I decided to buy was F1 2018. I really like it don't get my wrong and a HUGE improvements in terms of graphics since my gaming experience from the 90s but one thing I really miss is the ability to selected and play with multiple drivers it is imposible to win the Constructor Championship if you don't select on of the mayor teams. I would like to see local multiplayer capabilities and switching between drivers during the practice, qualification and races.
I thought that the cars were weightless until I scrapped my F1 2018 settings and re tuned them for this game. Now the car is really heavy and no longer rely on visuals.
What kind of settings did you change?
@@Super_GT
I'm using a Fanatec CSL Elite, F1 wheel in cockpit view.
As with anything new, still tweaking the settings.
In game:
FFB: 150
On track: 20
Rumble: 20
Off track: 10
Wheel damper: 0
Understeer Enhanced: On
Wheel Rotation: 360
Wheel settings:
Sensitivity: Auto
FFB: 80
Shock: 100
Abs: Off
Drift Mode: Off
Force: 100
Spring: 100
Damper: 100
FEI: 0
Don't need to tell someone like yourself it's personal preference, but immediately felt more like driving a Go kart and found soooooo much time.
Your forza horizon experience prepared you for F1 2019 multiplayer (:
Can't you adjust the feed back on your wheel and brake plus accelerator sensitivities also to give the feel of a heavier car??
I agree. From a pad user the physics are absolutely terrible. I want to play the game because it’s F1, but I can’t stand driving the cars. I just go back to Assetto Corsa every time. I also find the sounds are off and yes locking up happens far too much
I totally agree with you when it comes to the balance. I play with the AI at 95 and qualifying is soo difficult to get above 16th (even in a Red Bull) but the race itself is much easier. Don’t have this issue on the 18 version. Beautiful game though.
I did notice that in f1 2018 at some tracks, but it feels like it's more marked in this release. In F1 2018, in Monza, I the best car, and struggled to P5 on the grid, but in the race, using the same AI level, once I took the lead, I was just driving away from them. Really hope they can fix that, as it's frustrating not to get a proper challenge, or have to fight from way further back than ought to be the case. If I've messed up quali, then that's what I deserve, but sometimes, you feel like you've driven the wheels off and are nowhere near your team mate.
*I WOULD HAVE A HEART ATTACK IF CODEMASTERS COULD MAKE NEXT YEARS GAME BETTER*
I haven't played an F1 game since 2012 (Co-op career mode where've you gone? 😖) And I've been playing GT Sport for the past couple years, I got this yesterday and after two days of playing the Ranked online races, I've got to say I've had so much fun. It's so nice to have a racing game I don't need to take seriously! Win the race? Cool, that was fun and a nice boost to my level; punted off mid race? I don't care, nothing at stake and it's all in good fun.
I feel like the handling is like being on ice. The uphill section at spar I always spin out because an F1 car in real life should be able to handle it pretty much flat out. In this game I always have to lift off for to get round. I also don’t like how when you are using a normal controller their is no feeling between what you input and what happens in game. The handling is almost feels like it doesn’t work.
I'm suffering from oversteer in Spain with a Ferrari is it anything to do with the setup or is it just the car?
It is most likely your setup, as the feeling I've had so far with everything, is that it tends to understeer. The way I drive, I'd like a bit of oversteer instead. Guess we both have work to do on our setups to dial them to suit our driving. Maybe for me, it's because I learned to drive in a rear wheel drive that was snappy at the back. :D
@@bruceparker1164 Ye, it's setup and possibly driving style - hitting the throttle too early etc can be a problem for many.
I prefer a more understeer setup that feels solid and just use gear manipulation for rotation. Different strokes for different folks!
As far as multiplayer goes - Unranked can be a ... I don't even have words for it. It really should be called 'evading noobs' or 'f1karts' after mario karts. However, if you play ranked and get to your S licence, then you can have some decent racing with respectful drivers and it can be indeed a lot of fun based on pure racing back and forth.
F1 2018s physics felt excellent to me. Now locking up the brakes with the slightest touch and the inconsistencies with the throttle have been making it hard to enjoy the game. At first I thought it was my screens refresh rate haha.