Been IRacing for 3 months, only ovals. Thanks to videos like this I finally feel like it’s clicking. Won a Truck race last week at Vegas, and this week at Iowa. Have gained 500 IR in the past 3 weeks.
Had a guy last night (actually there was two) that kept spinning infront of me, every time i was near them. Like FUCK, stick to practicing if you can't make it a few laps without spinning.
See I’m in a significant minority but I just can’t stand fixed races on iRacing. I hate driving a car I have no ability to adjust and fine tune. The fixed sets aren’t too bad on oval but on road I feel terrible in 9/10 cars on fixed. So if I go into a week of ARCA or c-fixed and can’t get along w the car I’m just SOL, either have to accommodate the car and potentially build bad habits or take the week off. But I’m also a bit of a setup nerd I could spend hours tinkering just for fun
I prefer open setup stuff because I can make mid race changes like tire pressure and spring adjustments. till they let us do that in fixed set races I don't think fixed set races are worth it imo. same on the road side of things for things like TC ABS etc.
@@Severi611 as an australian, where our only oval track has only been used for drift and drag racing for a long time............. i'd have nfi how to even start with a setup on oval.
I won’t lie I thought I was to good for ovals even tho I sucked at road. Finally got tired of learning new tracks and sucking so starting racing ovals to race without having to try hard. Got hooked immediately and really haven’t touched road in a few months now and my irating is like 600pts higher and I’m having a much easier and fun time moving thru the safety ranks. About to be B class in my next couple races if they stay clean. I love ovals and never thought I would ever say those words.
You have been super helpful with my raise from rookie too C class already within only a month really. Only up from here. Now onto the Arca! Great content keep it up!
As a circuit simdriver, all of the tips you gave are 100% applicable to circuit driving (the only difference imo is the trail braking perspective, where in circuit racing I think the small extra braking does make a difference in brake distance). I guess it's just that with circuit racing, you can hide some shortcomings with the fundamentals of driving (which what this video really is) with a great/unorthodox racing line, setup, or sometimes the car itself. In oval racing where it is all about turning left, you take away 99% of the things that bad fundamentals can hide behind, which completely exposes your basic fundamentals as a driver. In a sense, this makes oval racing a showcase of pure, raw skill and talent.
I was doing a practice session at Darlington for the ARCA cars, had your video up, and it got to your 3rd point (and there may have been a sub-point about how one would manage their gas inputs)...personal best single lap at Darlington, half a second better than my first practice session of the week. I haven't tried a long run yet, but I'm happy with the increase in single-lap speed. Thanks!
I haven't been on iRacing long, but I've been playing simcades and sims for at least a decade now. Up until this October began, oval racing was still and unknown, and to be frank scary, variable in sim racing. But between your videos (Big shout out to the vid of you teaching Suellio) and my current burn out with road racing, oval finally makes some sense to me! I feel like I've unlocked a whole new kind of fun, and I'm hoping I can take this pretty far
even simpler is it's 80 percent practicing the discipline, 20 percent execution. it goes for road racing too tbh as I go by the method of practicing how I wanna race. if I want a fight I am fighting in practice with other drivers. if I am not comfortable at the track that day I am putting in work on being consistent
I hop back and forth a bunch between dirt and asphalt and use the brake/gas simultaneously method a lot between both disciplines without even thinking. Really need to work on less of that on asphalt though.. really appreciate the thorough explanation
You're the best, this helps me. I'm always looking to improve. I'm in a league I'm usually 5th-15th never top 5 those guys are fast. I'll try implementing the entry and middle better.
3:58 ! Make a video on this one rule! If more iracers understood this, we'd have more green flag runs and probably better race craft. If more people knew how to save the car when shit hits the fan, the servers would be a safer place.
"I tell my students all the time" When you say that, I make a post-it of what you say next! I have five so far! My favorite is " Just Hit the wall" 😂😅. Thanks for what you do!
I can qualify well enough and run solo laps. Were I struggle is on the super speedways in the pack being able to hold my line and pace when the draft is sucking the car up and around. Would love to see you cover that aspect in a video. I know a lot of it just comes down to more practice but I’m open to some tips!
This usually happens when your eyes are completely fixated on the car ahead of you. That car is a moving target so it’s best to also keep your eye on the line or the seam on the track because those never lie
I cannot drive a cup car at all or a truck... But Busch or Gen4 and Im all good for NASCARs.. Street Stock / Mini Stock are my home tho. Thats if I'm just not running dirt that is. Which makes the transition to paved a little weird
The problem is people use the wrong steering ratios and poor steering wheel bases and have no feel for what the car is doing, hence, they CANNOT hold their line
In real life no because no one wants the outside wall on the drivers side of the car. In iracing there are a few but I’ve never seen one run officially
Have been on iRacing for a while now, and I'd like to start with oval racing too. I was wondering, does trail braking in road and oval mean two different things?
A bit different. Trailbraking on Road has you Brake as much as possible and then trail off of the brake towards the apex. In Oval racing its more just dragging the brake a bit for some extra rotation, often just 5-20% of pedal pressure.
Heres my opinion on oval racing, when you think about it, yeah its literally just maybe braking, turning left, and getting back on the gas, but you can also say the same thing about getting your golf swing right, its just swinging at a ball right? Well when theres something that is so barebones simple on paper, people go out and make it one of the most complicated things to master. Simple on paper, but when people whant to do it best, they figure out anything they can to squeeze out that extra hundreth.
@@darrensharples1943 I personally run extremely low ffb just enough to feel the information, but a lot of people run higher ffb usually not quite what you see people running it on road
Oval racing should help especially sports cars because oVal racing really exaggerates the need to keep momentum and getting on the throttle as early as possible
Been IRacing for 3 months, only ovals. Thanks to videos like this I finally feel like it’s clicking. Won a Truck race last week at Vegas, and this week at Iowa. Have gained 500 IR in the past 3 weeks.
@swick6357 very nice! Been iracing 11 years. Welcome to the club. Fun huh? 😃
@swick6357 well this guys got a lot of videos and info to watch (I would sub if you like oval racing and iracing history).
@poobird3606 i think I was his 11th sub. He's a smart guy and fun channel. Good luck in your journey my friend.
Well oval racing could be easy on a test session, but when your actually battling for position, especially in a pack, I gets real difficult.
@@poobird3606 very true, but also the simpler someone makes their driving, the easier those battles get as well
Had a guy last night (actually there was two) that kept spinning infront of me, every time i was near them. Like FUCK, stick to practicing if you can't make it a few laps without spinning.
@@Mr_jz_12 Iowa brings that out in people. I had the same
@@kevjames9441 To be fair, I'll take a bad Iowa race over any type of race at Ice Atlanta.
Oval racing would be a lot harder if we didn't have fixed setup races, haha.
I like fixed setup races. I am just a dumb diver, not a clever engineer or physicist.
See I’m in a significant minority but I just can’t stand fixed races on iRacing. I hate driving a car I have no ability to adjust and fine tune. The fixed sets aren’t too bad on oval but on road I feel terrible in 9/10 cars on fixed.
So if I go into a week of ARCA or c-fixed and can’t get along w the car I’m just SOL, either have to accommodate the car and potentially build bad habits or take the week off.
But I’m also a bit of a setup nerd I could spend hours tinkering just for fun
I prefer open setup stuff because I can make mid race changes like tire pressure and spring adjustments. till they let us do that in fixed set races I don't think fixed set races are worth it imo. same on the road side of things for things like TC ABS etc.
@@Severi611 as an australian, where our only oval track has only been used for drift and drag racing for a long time............. i'd have nfi how to even start with a setup on oval.
Everyone just buys setups anyways
Turn right to go left
I remember that one comment where he says that Cars movie is about cars going circles and that’s it
On a motorcycle.
I won’t lie I thought I was to good for ovals even tho I sucked at road. Finally got tired of learning new tracks and sucking so starting racing ovals to race without having to try hard. Got hooked immediately and really haven’t touched road in a few months now and my irating is like 600pts higher and I’m having a much easier and fun time moving thru the safety ranks. About to be B class in my next couple races if they stay clean. I love ovals and never thought I would ever say those words.
You have been super helpful with my raise from rookie too C class already within only a month really. Only up from here. Now onto the Arca!
Great content keep it up!
As a circuit simdriver, all of the tips you gave are 100% applicable to circuit driving (the only difference imo is the trail braking perspective, where in circuit racing I think the small extra braking does make a difference in brake distance).
I guess it's just that with circuit racing, you can hide some shortcomings with the fundamentals of driving (which what this video really is) with a great/unorthodox racing line, setup, or sometimes the car itself. In oval racing where it is all about turning left, you take away 99% of the things that bad fundamentals can hide behind, which completely exposes your basic fundamentals as a driver. In a sense, this makes oval racing a showcase of pure, raw skill and talent.
As a beginner oval driver with only a 3-4 oval races under my belt, this is brilliant information and exactly what I was looking for. Thank you!
Small world Lorenzo 😁
Got distracted for the whole video by that small Flygon plushie.
Good taste in pokémon sir.
I was doing a practice session at Darlington for the ARCA cars, had your video up, and it got to your 3rd point (and there may have been a sub-point about how one would manage their gas inputs)...personal best single lap at Darlington, half a second better than my first practice session of the week.
I haven't tried a long run yet, but I'm happy with the increase in single-lap speed.
Thanks!
80% of my oval racing knowledge comes from this channel❤
Great vid man. You really help the community.
I haven't been on iRacing long, but I've been playing simcades and sims for at least a decade now. Up until this October began, oval racing was still and unknown, and to be frank scary, variable in sim racing. But between your videos (Big shout out to the vid of you teaching Suellio) and my current burn out with road racing, oval finally makes some sense to me! I feel like I've unlocked a whole new kind of fun, and I'm hoping I can take this pretty far
Thanks Justin, I really appriciate you sharing your knowledge with other less experinced drivers
All of your oval tip vids have been helping so much. I was stoked to see this one pop up! Thanks!
I did road racing, came to oval.... the *theory* yeah it's easy, just turn left... being fast and racing people, that's the hard bit
instructions unclear, i am now driving backwards on the nordschleife
got into oval racing this week saw you at darlington on the first race there such an amazing race!!!
even simpler is it's 80 percent practicing the discipline, 20 percent execution. it goes for road racing too tbh as I go by the method of practicing how I wanna race. if I want a fight I am fighting in practice with other drivers. if I am not comfortable at the track that day I am putting in work on being consistent
My goal for the steering is just to come out of the turn not riding down the wall.
I hop back and forth a bunch between dirt and asphalt and use the brake/gas simultaneously method a lot between both disciplines without even thinking. Really need to work on less of that on asphalt though.. really appreciate the thorough explanation
thanks for making these videos i am always looking for tips tricks and ways to just better myself as a driver and these videos really help!
Full racing description on how to turn left. 😂 (sorry, had to!)
One of your best videos ever! Thanks Justin!
Dude I love the earnie ball scheme
You're the best, this helps me.
I'm always looking to improve.
I'm in a league I'm usually 5th-15th never top 5 those guys are fast. I'll try implementing the entry and middle better.
Love the breakdown of the turn in on three at Darlington!
3:58 ! Make a video on this one rule! If more iracers understood this, we'd have more green flag runs and probably better race craft. If more people knew how to save the car when shit hits the fan, the servers would be a safer place.
Love the tips. I posted them in my tips and tricks section.
"I tell my students all the time" When you say that, I make a post-it of what you say next! I have five so far! My favorite is " Just Hit the wall" 😂😅. Thanks for what you do!
I definitely took my own advice there at darlington. Lots of stripes
I can qualify well enough and run solo laps. Were I struggle is on the super speedways in the pack being able to hold my line and pace when the draft is sucking the car up and around. Would love to see you cover that aspect in a video. I know a lot of it just comes down to more practice but I’m open to some tips!
This usually happens when your eyes are completely fixated on the car ahead of you. That car is a moving target so it’s best to also keep your eye on the line or the seam on the track because those never lie
That ernie ball livery is 🔥
It’s true I was there when he hit the wall, I told him hello, of course I found him in ARCA lolll
I cannot drive a cup car at all or a truck...
But Busch or Gen4 and Im all good for NASCARs..
Street Stock / Mini Stock are my home tho.
Thats if I'm just not running dirt that is. Which makes the transition to paved a little weird
to me I find Ovals more challenging and require much more concentration than road races
Perhaps your most helpful video ever?
The most difficult thing about ovals is avoiding the drunk/high clowns
Welp time to apply this to las Vegas A fixed
Another banger video 🎉🎉🎉
🎵🎵 I WANNNA STAY FOR A WHILE 🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️
The problem is people use the wrong steering ratios and poor steering wheel bases and have no feel for what the car is doing, hence, they CANNOT hold their line
New to nascar. Why is it left turns? Is there any right turn tracks? Many thanks
In real life no because no one wants the outside wall on the drivers side of the car. In iracing there are a few but I’ve never seen one run officially
@@DJYeeJayoh interesting 👍
I suck at short tracks. Like I can't race on them at all.
Have been on iRacing for a while now, and I'd like to start with oval racing too. I was wondering, does trail braking in road and oval mean two different things?
A bit different. Trailbraking on Road has you Brake as much as possible and then trail off of the brake towards the apex. In Oval racing its more just dragging the brake a bit for some extra rotation, often just 5-20% of pedal pressure.
Yep exactly. Only exception is paper clip short tracks
Seems easy to those who done do it , win any professional motor event is harder that most people can pull off!
Heres my opinion on oval racing, when you think about it, yeah its literally just maybe braking, turning left, and getting back on the gas, but you can also say the same thing about getting your golf swing right, its just swinging at a ball right? Well when theres something that is so barebones simple on paper, people go out and make it one of the most complicated things to master. Simple on paper, but when people whant to do it best, they figure out anything they can to squeeze out that extra hundreth.
thanks for the tips, can you do a video on oval ffb settings. I run a simucube and oval kills my shoulders. Any Tips?
@@darrensharples1943 I personally run extremely low ffb just enough to feel the information, but a lot of people run higher ffb usually not quite what you see people running it on road
Poor kevin
Should i even learn this oval racing will it help me with formula and sports cars races?
Oval racing should help especially sports cars because oVal racing really exaggerates the need to keep momentum and getting on the throttle as early as possible
@@DJYeeJay so No
Do you have a league?
Firsstttt babbyyyy let’s go FORRDDD
FIRST
Hey what's the discord to get ahold of you