Building a Custom Frame & Rear Suspension Set Up for a Model T Roadster! - Video 7 Isky Tribute Car
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- Thank you to @speedwaymotors for being a partner for the @iskyracingcams build series re-creating Ed Iskenderian's iconic T Roadster! Parts used in this video listed below:
Universal 38 Inch Rear Ladder Bar Suspension Kit (Part #91645159)
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QA1 Adjustable 14 Inch Coil-Over Shock Kit (Part #7215850
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EMPI 3897 Pol. Stainless Steel Fuel Tank (Part # 1413897)
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In this video DT gets all of the rear suspension geometry and placement worked out, once the great debate of what the wheelbase should be is decided on. Then it's time to get the frame built moving forward from the rear suspension! Everything being 100% leaves room for creativity but also leaves a need to figure a lot of the basics out to make sure everything works as it should.
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Dennis is the best car builder. I have learned so much from him while watching Alex's TH-cam videos. Thank you Dennis and Alex.
Last week, Alex was showing Dennis' shop, his COE and more. Please search for Inside Alex Taylor's Garage Exclusive Tour PEAK Auto
Magician. Cars going to look amazing.
I agree.
I'd just like to hang out there for a day!!
As an old school toolmaker, Love your work and brain Dennis, regards from Sth Australia!!
Cool video, great to hear all the explanations of how stuff fits together. I was wondering if you're going to Sick Week this year?
Happy new year Taylor and your family and crew hope you had a great holidays 🎉🎉🎉
I love watching in-the-shop fabrication video and really appreciate Dennis sharing the thought process, priority, and order of each move
Perhaps it's time to start a separate TH-cam channel "Dennis Taylor Fabrications" to drill down on exactly this type of content.....It looks to me like there is enough potential content in the Taylor universe to support a network of TH-cam channels if enough of the right video production folks could be employed to get the content onto TH-cam as quickly as possible....
I like the shortest wheelbase.....you can see the whole turtle deck.......
And would have been much less of a headache.......
Great project......DT is that Man !!!
Dennis, as always such a great job explaining the fabrication process. We must be close to the same age, not sure where you get all your energy.
There is nothing wrong with taking one design and making it better. Sometimes our thoughts are clouded when it comes time to assemble a project or piece it together as back in the early days of hot Rodding. You've definitely done some homework on the pros and cons Dennis and can't wait to see the finished product. My son keeps talking about putting a Hot Rod together like I did when he was a baby setting on the garage floor as dad tool around with the car. Guess that's where he gets the car bug from as his mom says he's just like his dad down to the ever grimme hands .But now my old hands are not grimme any more. My idea is a bit different but still in line with yours Dennis. Be careful and stay safe my friends...God love ya all Merica.
Really enjoy these videos taking us into the thought process and reasoning of the build process. Very educational and appreciated.
I agree. 99 looks the best. You all are hard workers and I thank you for sharing what's going on in the shop.
Last week, Alex was showing Dennis' shop, his COE and more. Please search for Inside Alex Taylor's Garage | Exclusive Tour | PEAK Auto
Last week, Alex was showing Dennis' shop, his COE and more. Please search for Inside Alex Taylor's Garage Exclusive Tour PEAK Auto
Dennis sit, thank you for the in depth dialogue throughout this video. I won’t be building a TBucket in what’s left of my life time, but as an old engineer from the steel fab and oil field equipment, I’m loving following along and “looking over you shoulder.”
Alex, thank you for doing such a good job on the editing. And thanks to whoever did the camera work on the different stages of this video. Well done all of you!!!
99 looked good to me, the best of the three options
The Taylor Family are amazing...Dennis is an unbelievable fabricator and I love all the interaction of the family members...Hopefully in the future the 55 Nomad becomes a reality!...Nice job Alex putting that video together!
Dennis you sure know your stuff. I can't wait to see the rest of this build. Ed will de vry happy with this I hope it gets on the track not fast but nostalgic
Hey guys, hello from California, love the channel. Congratulations on all your success. Can't wait for the next episode.
You guys are doing an awesome job . I truly admire and give much respect for your level of craftsmanship .
Dennis, I found it hilarious when you said "I don't know what kind of drugs Henry Ford was on". That was exactly my thought when I saw some of the things he did. ;)
I think this is the most I've heard Dennis speak, out of all the videos I've seen him in, on this channel. 😊😊 I hope the gals kept him well hydrated during this tutorial lecture. 👍👍
What a truly real craftsmen!! Great job Dennis! Thanks!
I like the short wheel base
Dennis is a great fabricator just ask Tom or Steve
For me I’d keep it as close to the OG build even if it looks a little strange but I do get why you’re debating this change 👍
looks Awesome , mind glowing to watch such perfection & work.
I am amazed at how much is going on in your dads head, and we only hear part of it as he talks. I don't know if I would want to hear all of the thoughts going round and round in his head.
His "options" talk also speaks to his total vision of the car, from beginning to end of the build. Your dad has remarkable vision, and immense experience.
Beautiful work by your dad,Alex! A true one man team fabricator. Love it!
I love this video. It's like a Masterclass on fabrication. Love seeing Debbie helping Dennis and filming it. What a power couple. Thanks for this Alex. - Paul @ Sick the Mag.
I do not think Debbie "Helps" I think Debbie knows some stuff and WORKS her ass off. It is such a cool thing to watch this evolution.
Dennis is special- no other builder would bring you in without dumbing down - it’s awesome and l learn 100 things
I contacted u ur dad bout a future project
I agree with one of the post 99 does look a lot better
It felt like I was waiting 6 months for this video
Dude, it just occured to me that No Prep has rules on weight classes. Well, a Model T is already light by factory specs. While other cars HAVE TO be at over 3,000lbs to classify. But, a Model T weight is different because THEY WERE MADE LIGHT! This is one of the big reasons why they used ROADSTERS so much in the '50's. Put a big motor on that little body, instant winner pretty much. I think 🤔 that a roadster for racing IS PERFECT for drag racing. Just a thought. Anyway, thanks for the video 📸.
99 inches looks best❤
I'm only 50 so I'm not "Old School", but the one thing that made Ed's T different is the wheelbase. It's iconic! anything else is a regular T Bucket. IMHO why bother, if you change that.
Looks like we found our new Barris builder, great show & stuff! I still injoy someone else working it old school hard & better.
From the motor city.
My grandads came to this county in 1906, to build the MODEL-T with mr. Ford.
And just a note; i would have cut the panel above the gas tank to be removable. Also for what its worth, it seems like you need more outer metal on those bolts, especially if theres a monster engine may break off, on the axles. 😮
I'll go for the shortest. I spent 6years with the Highland Plating Special (Hot Rod Oct 62 cover car.) This car was orignally was Dick Kraft's roadster. The wheel in the rear was in the middle of the Trunk. I like short the best and nothing sticking out. If it helps the frame had a 4inch extension just in front of the fire wall. It also had a quick change. Flathead powered. Just mentioning it.
Dennis is a true fabricobbler master. I understand what he is doing..but could I actually make it real??Nope...
I don't know , Dennis..that long wheelbase is growing on me..Ed built a lake car..you are not on that vibe..the short wheelbase is more contemporary.
Badass. I could watch Dennis work all day. He overthinks everything like I do too. Yall keep kicking ass. #FueledByHitman
99” looks the best to me! Fantastic instructive video. The background music was to loud over Lex talking….hard to hear and understand her.
Dennis, won't that bottom coilover bracket try and spin with only one bolt holding it to the rear end? I'm sure the coilover will only let it flex so far, but I would think you would need 2 bolts or a locating tab to keep the bracket from spinning? Love the in depth build on this one so far Alex. Keep up the good work.
love everything about this video ...exept the music playing in the background ..i mean why ??? i have to mute it ...sorry apart from that i love it !!
you are changing things anyways, trash the rear crossmember, fab your own it will be hidden, and then you wont be restricted by something stamped out to work with a transverse leaf spring......
Hope you all had a Merry Christmas and wishing you a Happy New Year and stay safe, thanks for the videos !!!
Stretched out a no for me. If I was building it, I'd even look at 97", but no longer than 99" it doesn't look good.
The wheels on my 29 Plymouth are the same way the hole in the wheel is smaller than the bolt pattern. Even worse the lug nuts are 15/16 or 1" I don't remember which. They are a pain to get off and on.
Sorry to say but those rear shock mounts aren't going to work. Quite surprised that it wasn't obvious to you. Loving the rest of the build.
that is the perfect proportions of chassis too body that ive ever seen and you wouldnt bellieve that an inch or two iether way would make such a difference but thats what makes a great build and a legendary build and Dennis is a legend!!! maximum respect too that man!!! cant wait for the rest of the build,i wait with baited breath! ☺
Please say to your dad he is amazing car fabricator and cobbler, so cool seeing how he do's things old school and using modern-day machinery cheers from New Zealand 😎👋
Amazing and awesome Dud your amazing great work and great videos I enjoyed it was fantastic . Best of the best
Doesn't matter how it looks, life starts after 160mph anyway! Make it go fast.
I like how at Ed’s length the trunk is a continuous curve into the tire, no overlapping or Gumby transitions. I vote long.
Awesome!
He did it for a better ride as a shorter wheel base would have ridden so badly back in day with what Ed had to use for suspension. With the suspension stuff we have today I’d go with the 99” wheel base.
Dennis that was the best of the best in design, fab, assuring dimension and all around HOT ROD building, thanks for sharing it with us !
I know why U are building this but the 105 and 102 just don't look right.
I agree with y'all on rear tires. It doesn't have an appealing flow between the deck and tire radios, with the axle set so far back. It looks tractor'ish.
Thanks, it looks great, in the trunk, and from the side, all great. Thanks to you all and your sponsors.
I'd think the tail lights should be seen , but mainly I wish it didn't Poke out . Who cares what cool was , do what feels right .
I know the car is already done and has been unveiled; but with those lower shock mounts Dennis made, what keeps them from rotating on the ladder bar bolt with only a single bolt tieing it to the ladder bar? Is that the intended design so the shock mount can rotate with the arc of suspension travel?
Notice Isky's style with the stitch pleats in his pants,, he was cool over 70 years ago,,,😎
. * * * * * Can you notch that part of the rim , where the hub cap snaps into , so that you could get a socket on the lug nuts ? Always enjoy seeing your innovations come to life .
love the thought process's being talked out loud. the quick change would be cool sticking out but going back under the car will look best i think
I prefer the 99 in wheelbase because I like the turtledeck and I would rather see the body accentuated it is such an awesome body
this is awesome. and he wearing fabricator uni. camo cargos and black T😆
Dennis really nice video. Nice work also. You have done this more than once. Fred
I vote for 99" WB, the tire sticking past the rear is not aesthetically pleasing.
I’m pretty sure they had a box style wrench 🔧 for those wheels kinda like they sale now that you put a ratchet on but it had a different thing to attach it with as a tire iron
I’m all caught up on the videos on the Model T. I love all your videos
Hello can you go look at f150 raptor that have rear arm coil shock system see that work ?
I would rather not see the rear end hanging out of the back of the car I think you would be doing better if you hid everything in the trunk
I could swear I saw one of them little German jobs back there with a roll cage in it!
The longer wheelbase with the axle way back just looks wrong.
I like the 99"
HI WOW ALOT OF WORK ! YOU ARE DOING A GREAT JOB ON THE CAR . GREAT TO SEE YOU ARE GETTING THINGS DONE . TODD FROM SNOWEY MICHIGAN .
Gosh, I wish I could learn from this guy.
. * * * * * Why not extend the front 3" and the rear 3" ? Or any combination combination . ?
the bracket you made will have a tendency to rotate need to make the bracket radious to the ladder bar
Mount the plate and taillamp on the back of the quick change.
Curious if Dennis has ever toyed with the idea of teaching. Most schools don't have "shop" anymore, and let's face it, the infrastructure of this country is coming due for major maintenance (bridges, roads, ect, all of which require fabrication skillse's!) I'd sign up for sure!!
The school would have to be on wheels. Dennis and his family are always on the move.
I like 99", 105" looks like the back axle is falling off
I just watched an hour of shit that mostly went right over my head
Great job building it nobody in Tennessee knows how to do it.
Can you turn down the music when you do a voice over. Thank you
Good morning, you guys are great. My daughter got to talk to Alex at Pomona for Hot Rod West a few weeks ago…she is still smiling.
So I have a question:
Will your lower shock mount loosen? The mount looks like it makes a lever so when the suspension cycles will it try to rotate and loosen the lower bolt? If it works can you explain it? And you class has put my wife to sleep so I am quietly watching and learning Thank you
We have a winner... Finally someone spotted the design flaw. This is exactly what is going to happen. One side will tighten, the other side will loosen. It won't loosen / tighten enough to matter, but It is going to rotate downwards on the bolt and cause the lower pivot point to bind, this is where the real problem lays. The fix is nearly as simple as the problem. If he wants to utilise the bolt he needs a second rigid point to stop the rotation. He could make a new bracket that fixes to both of the ladder bar bolts (that is the least ideal method) because the shock point is still under torsion. He could make a new bracket like the first one, but have it grab / bolt / wrap around the ladder bar so the shock mounts between the two mount points (better idea) or he could simply remove the brackets he made and weld two flat pieces of steel directly to the ladder bars (probably the best solution).
102” or 105”, or 99” for a wheelstander😂
I think it would look better if the rear axle was a touch more to the front like at 97
With all the thinking you have to do, when do you sleep!
Sorry forgot to Thank Alex for all of it !!!!!!!!!!!!
I'd go with 95" it don't look good with tire out behind the rear end !
In the '80's I was partners in a shop which did everything for body work to repairs, while my partner & I built street rods, restored cars & I built drag chassis.
I was beginning a project for myself, it was a concept to drag race for shop advert. It was planned as a '57 Funny Car, if there had been such a thing. Began w/ a 55 Sedan; turned into a chopped top roadster. Bought the spare motor from a B Alcohol FC, a cast 392 Hemi, Hilborn Injection, & the point of the story an Isky roller cam.
I called Isky Cams, since I knew squat about Hemis & nothing about the cam. You have to remember this was the early '80's, trade shows like NEMA were dreams, or not attended by the public & unless you were a big time racer, you just didn't meet big names in HP parts. You bought their parts, got a sticker & that was as close as you got.
I called Isky Cams... a gravelly voice answers, "Isky Cams, this is Ed, whatcha need?"
I stuttered out my story about the engine I'd just bought & my level of ignorance.
Ed proceeded to go non-stop for 10, maybe 15 minutes about the cam, specs, tuning advice, what kinda performance to expect.
Then he really surprised me. "You in Oregon, you said. Get that motor outta Portland? Yeah, I think I remember a '92 Roller going to an older guy running an alcohol Funny. Sold it to some kids, last I heard, his health was causing problems.
He continued, Before you get too far w/ that Hemi, give XX, just outside of Eugene, a call, here's his number; knows more about '92's than anybody in the NW, maybe the West. He'll help you out, lives & breathes that old iron & loves to help young guys who're interested.
Need anything else, give me a call.
Writing everything as fast as I could, I stammered out my appreciation for his time, help & name... & it was over.
I sat there, mind blown, but racing w/ info as my partner came in office. 'What are you plotting? You have the bigged grin on your face. What's going on?"
I told him...
GeoD
Simply ask Ed if it would offend him.
Alex and Dennis, THANK YOU!!! This is a Master Class in Custom Fabrication. I can't wait to watch the next video. If I lived closer to you I'd volunteer to sweep your shop just to watch you work. You guys inspire regular hacks like me.
Fantastic video, a massive thanks from here in the UK! I'm in the process of building a traditional-ish Model A roadster, which is my first ever hotrod build. This video has helped tremendously, and inspired me.
I would move the wheel forward even more, more centre.
Try spring behind the crossmember.
Nice idea with the ally block for the tap.
Love the build. I’m surprised you didn’t bolt and weld the lower shock mounts in steel?
Maybe he can do that when he realises that his design is going to fail. He overlooked a major design flaw.
"its not pretty" shut up dennis looks great :D
Merci.... Very explan and pleasure.
What I saw at the end of the video looked. Nice!
To my way of thinking, placing the coil overs in front of the axle will reduce shock speed and stroke, which isn’t really a bad thing in terms of damper performance.
Just my 2 cents worth.
Tbh, I kinda like the look of both short and mid wheelbase, almost like the mid better but hey, it’s completely subjective and beauty is in the eye of the builder, or something.
Whatever you do, Dennis, it’ll be stunning. 😎👍🍻