Is Violence a Function of our Culture? (Full Session)
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- Homicide remains an endemic, seemingly unsolvable problem in America. And violent crime afflicts African-American communities to a much greater degree than it does others, as does mass incarceration - and as does police violence. What is the cause of this crisis? What role does racism play? What is the role of culture? Are there any solutions to be had? The mayor of New Orleans, Mitch Landrieu, has been confronting this crisis head-on, and Atlantic Magazine National Correspondent Ta-Nehisi Coates has written widely on matters of race, policing and American history.
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Much insight here into the inter-relatedness of crime, racism, and the criminal justice system. Hats off to the mayor of New Orleans and, of course, Ta-nehisi Coates.
+Beth Cioffoletti
Interesting comments as the Mayor has said a lot of nothing. He talks about what is happening in his community but not how he is tackling it. All he has said is nothing new and if anything, precludes the crime of white on white happening in the city. I say this as a statistician because it is easy to get swept off by a whole lot of rhetorics when the reality is nothing is being done, period!!
Can I have a show of hands- who wants to see a debate between Coates and Larry Elder and/or Glenn Loury?
Alig4realz I would pay money to see him and Glenn have a debate. Elders would just be a shit show and nothing productive would come of it. Glenn Loury is a true intellectual and much more reasonable and balanced.
It’s a damn shame that Ta Nehisi Coates is the most prominent black intellectual in America right now. His message is doing so much damage to the black community as it only consists of blame and, ultimately, defeat.
@@TriteNight1218 If black people decide that he should be the leading intellectual, then that's what he is. It's our decision.
Who? Yall really gonna leave the master off the list?
The man, the legend Thomas Sowell?
That man has ended more racism than these fools could ever dream of.
I want to see anyone sit down w Mr Sowell & walk away thinking they’re smart or better.
Sowell, Morgan Freeman, Frederick Douglass, Booker T Washington r the type men who repair race relations.
For some strange reason saying F**k whitey, telling white people everyday that they’re soon going to be replaced as they’re telling us we’re responsible for slavery oppression Jim Crow & my favorite one is how so many blacks during talks like this in America at times literally reminds me of the radio station that hyped up the public to the point of genocide where they chopped up 1 million black men, woman and children w machetes in Rwanda.
Blaming every problem that exist in the black community on white people and taking zero responsibility for any of your actions & people like Ta-neisha trying to say that blacks do march to stop the 315,000 black people murdered since 1980 nearly all by blacks against blacks.
What’s his answer for all these murders & serious issues w violence & single mothers is dismantle white supremacy. WTF WTF WTF.
What does that even mean? We could give black people like him and anyone who is this ignorant give them the entire country; every damn dollar, assets & everything we as white people own but we are all leaving. Throw us in the wilderness w nothing & we would have paradise built & thriving while everything we gave them has crumbled into shit.
The fact that these type fools wouldn’t understand why what I just said is true is exactly why it would happen.
So many of them don’t understand how wealth is created and that if you truly want to be a big success u must have the right mindset.
Obama was a total failure because of his shitty policies but they don’t believe that is true.
White liberals have truly fd up the heads of way to many black people. They believe their own bullshit. It’s delusional.
315,000 blacks murdered by other blacks while they make up 6% of the country. That’s fd up beyond belief.
wouldn’t make a damn bit of difference
@@TriteNight1218 I respectively disagree with you.
@@kevinodom2918 amen to that! And no one could handle any debate with Thomas sowell the man is a fucking legend.
Good debate - Kudos to the efforts of the mayor and Thx to Coates for his brilliance and truth telling!
The idea that the person who knocked you down even cares about picking you up is a notion we need to get rid of...
Helluva good point.
+koaltech Not only that but the analogy wasn't correct. The mayor's argument is flawed by his erroneous presumption that after being knocked down and sustaining critical injuries so as to render the person in the chair paralytic, thee injured party somehow has the ability to pick themselves up despite having never received nor been offered adequate medical attention, assistance, therapy, and a period for recovery. If you are knocked down from a chair and break your neck or break your leg and are not afforded the proper assistance or therapy, I don't care how strong willed and determined you are, you will likely continue to crawl or walk at a snail's pace until that injury has been properly tended to.
The problem with thinking like this is that all you create is a cesspit of anger and racial resentment which is unsustainable in the long run and won't actually help black people. Too many blacks already think this way, it's not helpful.
*"+koaltech Not only that but the analogy wasn't correct. The mayor's argument is flawed by his erroneous presumption that after being knocked down and sustaining critical injuries so as to render the person in the chair paralytic, thee injured party somehow has the ability to pick themselves up despite having never received nor been offered adequate medical attention, assistance, therapy, and a period for recovery. If you are knocked down from a chair and break your neck or break your leg and are not afforded the proper assistance or therapy, I don't care how strong willed and determined you are, you will likely continue to crawl or walk at a snail's pace until that injury has been properly tended to."*
The analogy was correct. If someone knocks you down from the chair, their is no reason to think that person will pick you up. Even if you sustain critical injuries, it's still your responsibility to try to get help from others and help yourself if you can. And it surely doesn't make sense to blame other people who didn't knock you down for the problem or blame people who look like them. Life if harsh.
To stop crime you need to put the police where the criminal activities are occuring And have better relationship between the communities and the police force.
Mayor Landrieu, my first volunteer experience was at 14 in a recreation center in Baltimore, Maryland. I would move into employment through the youth program. At the end of my employment journey with Baltimore Bureau of Recreation prior to attending collage, I had a 9 year stretch in a job I loved. What you described in this discussion, your action taken and invested no longer exist. The capital needed to keep recreational centers in Baltimore are defunded. I am now 60-something. I would say from my perspective, things really started going down hill crimes wise fast. When the recreation centers started closing because they couldn’t sustain themselves, this sucked the life out of communities. Restoring recreational centers and programs is a great start.
This mayor seems genuine, and is taking the punches and keeping his integrity, even when he's wrong he seeks to understand, this is the solution to systemic problems vote for people in government that focus on addressing lowering the horrible numbers even if they dont understand how they are so high, VOTE for guys like this!!!
you have to push to DOING and not complaining
The Mayor is stumped on where to start to stop the violence on 5 blocks. He cites 52% unemployment rate that's astronomical! Maybe they need to address getting them jobs?
mochasweet Can't make people work who don't want to. Many of the young people who are old enough to work have had zero social training and don't respect slow money or submitting authority to someone unless under threat of physical violence.The mayor is right in that you have to intervene when they're children and teach them some values and civility before they become totally broken.
people have to be trained for a job and prove themselves trustworthy, many of those in that 52% dont even have their GED and have multiple felonies, its hard to get them employed , some never worked a day in their life and has mental issues
Hard to create jobs when your stuck paying $10+ an hour
@@karlmarx809 you dont know what you're talking about. You're talking like you know every single person who is unemployed.
@@roccet1365 You don't have to know every person to know that people are raised in different cultures (family culture, community culture) & where people draw the line as far as perpetuating criminal behavior towards others who are innocent as a learned, taught behavior. With few exceptions people do what their role models have shown them.
both did great, and both are right.
First thing he would do as king is release criminals. This is CLEARLY a man without any kind of real plan. For all his intellect and thought if that's the best he can come up with as a first point then he's lost me.
THIS IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. NO ? IF NOBODY TRIES ITS GONNA GET WORSE. HAVE YOU SEEN RHE CRIME ON THE NEWS LATELY ? MAY 2022.
This debate was about the same thing, I'd say. Saving lives! I am so excited about the steps Major Landriew is taking to address the smaller issues, that leads to the larger ones! Giving our children opportunities to get off the streets and create mentoring relationships! Opportunities for change! We're need more representatives with character and a desire for improvement! All change starts with a single step!
Kudos to Mayor Landriew for apologizing for the history of racism in his city! That takes such humility and shows his desire for true reconciliation!
Sometimes I think we need to listen better to one another so we can really hear and connect with each other!
If a person that knocked you off the stool then made laws to make it illegal for you to stand, move or fight back is what America is...
Humanity doesn't value life for one another as of yet. Will we get to that level? I certainly hope so.
If you knock somebody off a chair it is your fault but if u follow that act by placing massive weight on top of the person then that person not getting up is also your fault that’s a better analogy.
To attempt to solve the violence without changing the structure that causes it is to be able to silence and ignore the violence.
Forcing Google+ Makes Me Feel Better About the Spying that makes no sense you have contradicted your own statement.
Interesting, I think these two want the same thing. How to stop the violence is the question.
Ta-Nehisi I love brother, but black people are not just fine. It really angers me because our situation in life, him in Baltimore and me in the Bronx in the 90's. It's a cop out to pretend violence as a way of life is normal and some how America has to fix it. You and I fixed it for ourselves and we owe the communities we left (survived) to be honest about the conditions they find themselves in. I live in the Chicago area now and my kids do not have to grow up the way I did and have the same fears as we did going to school. But I turn on the news and see the poor mostly black neighborhoods in chicago rife with violence. I was one of those kids on the corner and know first have it has a lot to do with the structures that were put in place to segregated black folks. But it's 2020 and if we can mass protest over a small population of black citizens unjustified killings at the hand of the state, and these protest has caused law to change and NBA to declare BLM what is the issue if white folks asking why haven't we seen that type of push to change the culture that causes way more live to be lost than police violence. The fact are the data is not on the lefts side and I'm a liberal. And I know people in chicago March against violence all the time, but the masses are just not there. It's a matter that I find some black, left leaning intellectuals have no real answers for because they see these people as victims of a larger force, and in turn some black folks in these communities internalize victimhood. But as that lady asked, what about the micro level solutions. Like charter school, mental health counseling and mentoring programs that starts with getting young people men in particular to value the nuclear family. They are way to many black single women raising kids alone either because the fathers are in jail, dead or absent. This cycle has been going on since the 70's and we see generational adaptation to this Norm. Again i was was a kid of the streets of the Bronx and say this phenomena first hand. And again the data is there to show how single parenting overall trap folk in poverty. As extreme as some black conservative can be they should be the people we listen to for real talk on these issues because they like Malcolm X understand white folks and the government cannot fix these conditions. The Mayor is one of the most honest liberal I have see on this issue and I applaud him for his not being scared of being called a racist for telling to Truth.
Freedom is the greatest illusion. When black people were “freed” from slavery they decided the new systems as being worst than slavery. While in slavery they knew they weren’t free but the new system created the illusion of freedom.
The mayor contradicted himself too many times to be creditable. I believe he has morals but he deep seated opinions. Racism is a socialization and the mayor has come to full terms with that socialization.
Also his use of “black on black crime” as a way of focusing on victim is completely false. He is pushing a narrative. Also language is very powerful and shouldn’t be ignored.
Natalia Watkins exactly! the brother layed out the case's...and whitesurpermacist don't what to hear it period!!
Natalia Watkins , I currently live in New Orleans, and the mayor of the city has destroyed cultures by way of gentrification.... The minimum wage is 7.25, and the black communities are being pushed out by high dollar people.... I'm a white guy who grew up in the city, low income, single mother.... my point don't believe this hypocritical mayor.... I lived in Colorado springs for the last decade from August 2007 to Feb 2017... I learned a lot by living in Colorado.... Louisiana is an embarrassment to humanity and colonialism is the way in New Orleans, and Louisiana .....The schools are horrendous .... average reading level for an 11th grader is a fifth grade level.....
Yeah I peeped that about him too..
I would like to say.... this is how I want my mayor to be and think. I think mayor Landrieu was thought provoking and a great representative for his state. It was refreshing to hear such passionate commitment to the PEOPLE of his county. Ta-Nehisi , well... For me, is just another example of the brilliant minds of black folk. Thank you TH-cam and the Aspen Institute.
52% unemployment rate though?
mochasweet It's fucking New Orleans
blkstele I concur.
It is not that people 'keep misunderstanding this mayor'; rather I think the mayor doesn't really know what he is saying himself. The analogy is deeply flawed. What Coates is saying is that there is a perpetual and systematic 'knocking people off chairs'. You can't get up when white supremacy keeps using its 400 years of advantage and wealth to outflank African Americans in order to keep them segregated and not compensated: and this takes the form of further and ever newer structural processes of subjugation. The Mayor himself is part of this in the way he is trying obfuscate the problem. Not sure he intends it though, but that is not important.
Not sure why he doesn't understand this.
x mohamud I';m just curious. You say 400 years of advantage and wealth regarding white supremacy. Currently, I work with many blacks who are working right along side me on the same economic level with all of its advantages and disadvantages. There is not one single black person I know that has ever said the color of their skin has stopped them from living their lives and excelling within that life. Isn't it possible that if your mental reality includes an imagined big, bad monster that is constantly keeping you down, then at the first sign of adversity in life, you blame the imagined monster?
jernst7569 I don't think those black people you know what I really say that. Second of all there is not anything imagined when it comes to racism. We all know it exists in many forms.
+x kaarshe Well said. Also, the mayor's analogy is not wholly accurate as it does not account for the degree of injury sustained after the knockdown, the lack of treatment and medical attention denied the injured party, and the fact that despite knowing that the tools needed for the recovery are not in the victim/survivor's hands, he/she is expected to compete at the same level of the chairpusher.
This was 5 years ago? Can we please bring this mayor to the forefront of American politics today
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The mayor's analogy about being knocked down from the chair is inaccurate as it neglects to assess the level or degree of injury sustained after the knockdown. Taking that into account changes the way in which we seek to find a resolution to the "chair problem". The mayor's argument is flawed by his erroneous presumption that after being knocked down and sustaining critical injuries so as to render the person on the floor paralytic, thee injured party somehow has the ability to pick themselves up despite having never received nor been offered adequate medical attention, assistance, physical therapy, and a period for recovery. If you are knocked down from a chair and break your neck or break your leg and are not afforded the proper assistance or therapy, I don't care how strong willed and determined you are, you will likely continue to crawl or walk at a snail's pace until that injury has been properly tended to.
Now what should the injured party (African-Americans) do if the person who knocked them off the chair (racist segregationist government policy, racially discriminatory private sector, predatory lending practices of banks, racist criminal justice system) never comes back to help and render aid? Since it is most probable that they won't the victim/survivor is left to his own devices to heal himself and find a way to survive devoid of the pusher's (government and those in power who have a stronghold on the means of production and resources) help. This results in the victim/survivor having to become innovative and creative in their quest to attain the resources necessary for their survival which involves cutting corners (illegal activity), asking for assistance (public assistance or jobs) from the person who pushed them. Unless those in power relinquish their stronghold on resources so as to share in the control of resources (not likely to happen) the only option for the victim/survivor is to fight to obtain the resources he needs to help himself by any means necessary.
its a figure of speach dumbass. hes not saying if someone literally pushes you down.. hes saying that folks trying to hold you back can only do so if you sit there waiting for those same people to come pick you up.. he saying that there are those trying to hold you down but instead of waiting on those fuckers to help, you should look for others whom will help you up and also to help yourselves. you dumbass.
Dustin Sherman Clearly your dumb ass didn't comprehend my breakdown of the analogy. I already addressed whatever bullshit point you were trying to make, DUMB ASS.
you didn't even tell him what the point was lol, argueable you didn't understand?
@@dustinsherman4418 This was an educational and respectful video and conversation. And then you want to use insults when you get upset. wow Not only that but lifestraight said it was an analogy so he knows that it was a figure of speech. A flawed one
You keep telling people they are victims they start to believe it. All these problems can be fixed if the parents. Parents have to step up and break the cycle.
Would have loved to ask Ta-nehisi this question:
When one young black man makes the free will conscience choice to pick up a weapon and take the life of another black man, what exactly does he mean by there is nothing more blacks as individuals can do?
In the U.K. we have a knife crime problem that people are quick to label a race issue but Scotland has a similar knife crime problem in the 90's and it was labeled a poverty issue. funny that
Ta-Nehisi Coates is Amazing, so smart and such a great story teller
Habeebah Kolleff 🙄
The Mayor is the Truth Presidentil .....I pray it is just not talk.....Shout out From the Eatside Detroit ..
they look like mighty uncomfortable chairs
I don't think what they are saying is different. it's the same thing. one is changing ideas, and one is bringing those changed ideas to action. two sides, sane sword. I love you both. -a New Orleans girl
The biggest issue with Mayor Landrieu position is that we can't fix this without assessing how we got here. The government has purposefully targeted black communities by the 100,000's and every stat shows it hasn't changed to this day. -a New Orleans man
excellent discussion
leroy jackson Absolutely, a solid discussion by compassionate people.
I really love Coates and agree with him on everything... But there is an exception... I disagree with his conduct here. I see this trend recently, white people who care about black people getting turned off because of the treatment they receive from other black people. Really, what was there to argue with or disagree with in regard to what this mayor was trying to do for New Orleans? We all know that there is a problem. Coates never offered a solution. He simply said that black people are doing fine. I agree with him COMPLETELY that white supremacy is the major contributor. In fact, I'd go as far as to say that white supremacy is the cause of ALL violence in the modern world. But Coates, you gotta give us a solution to this problem. When it's pared down, it seems like he's saying just continue to be good and do your best. How is that any different than shucking and jiving 3.0?
astheskylarksings I think you’re more bothered by “it” than the mayor was. They both did well
Shout out to the woman who started her statement by saying how she thinks Tanehisi is the greatest & follows his work but then asks what icons in the black community like Oprah and Jay Z can do demonstrating her true lack of awareness of his platform. He argues relentlessly that black people are doing the work to combat white supremacy and that white folks gotta step up.
The truth is always somewhere in the middle...
STOP CUTTING TA-NAHISI COATES OFF!!!! DAMMIITTT!!!!!
Scary tone. 😬. Typical.
@Madame Clark Typical of whom exactly? And what? Could you be more specific?
Forgiveness is a fruit produced. It is a lesson one learns to release their oppressors.
The cradle of violence is at home.......
How is the violent crime of rape self-preservation? (in regards to Ta-Nehisi saying that black on black crime is inaccurate, it should be called a culture of self-preservation)
+Glitter Oh Dazzle I meant to say culture of violence vs. culture of self preservation
+Glitter Oh Dazzle Actually white people lead in the categories of forcible rape and other sexual offenses if you check the FBI stats.
I tend to agree a lot more with the mayor.
The wheels never met the road here...
we're done talking!
Every generation is a cultural shift. We can't expect those older generations to give up their culture, they have their rights to their own opinions. People don't realize that it takes longer for this to work. We have to have patience and proper education. Our education system should be the epitome and focus of our society. Through school, racism breaks it's ties because the structure is familial. You have to wait for these family's to die of age and their children to have the opportunity that presents enough experience to allow them to escape their families beliefs.
Mayor for Governor then to president. Thank you.
In the stats. About strong family structures.
I still don't understand that chair analogy. I think the mayor needs to drop it.
I agree.
Mike V It's about personal responsibility. Black activists are allergic to that phrase
It was the perfect analogy.
D Goshay I'm going to take it a step further if White America is as racist as this guy in a lot of black people like him feel, I don't want anything from White America I'm going to work hard and earn everything from my Own Strength, the Indians got a handout from White America and look how well that turned out, mind you this is a very extreme statement just to bring a different perspective to this whole thing, what I truly believe is that people hate and people love this is a Love and Hate Thing from both sides! not a race thing
It was a false analogy and Ta Nehisi very brilliantly exposed it.
If we viewed all issues from a class lens, then we would solve these problems. Yes, because of a history of oppression, policies to address class issues will disproportionately help the black community, and that is right and just(get over it fellow white people). The lower and middle classes have the power to enact these changes, but they are always at each other's throats about race. I want a world where the poor of all ethnicities unite to fight the real power that oppresses them. Our two party system perfectly divides the poor whites(republicans) and poor blacks(democrats), which silences what could be a monumental united force for positive change.
You each heard exactly what you wanted to hear.
Afterlife and death is why ethics on Violence matters
This moderator is driving me crazy saying "ah" between every sentence.
Unbearable!
The paternalistic southern mayor is hilarious😄😂
Ta-Nehisi Coates is the one who straight out says that there's no problem in the black community that ending white supremacy wouldn't fix. He wants white people to take not just some but *all* of the responsibility for those black murderers taking black lives. He's the one advocating paternalism.
The mayor, meanwhile, is talking about everyone - black and white - taking personal responsibility. That's the opposite of paternalism. To the extent that he's personally trying to help, that's not paternalism, that's just his job. He's the mayor.
14miki
You missed your calling as a comedian, boy.
@@joeboswellphilosophy No, he is bypassing the fact that white people's personal responsibility as a whole is to pay blacks, put money in our schools, streets, pockets and stop being racist. We aren't ADDRESSING the PROBLEM the mayor keeps bringing up... The ROOT CAUSE of WHY black people ARE the way they are and persist to be. it's because of whites.
@Iron Physique I couldn't get past the mayor's first response to Ta-Nehisi, when he had the gall to literally say "Everything Ta-Nehisi said is correct." As if this white politician saying so made it true, or was supposed to reassure us that Ta-Nehisi wasn't lying or something. I literally paused it and haven't restarted because the racist paternalistic cringe hasn't left my body yet.
Ah yes Ta-Nehisi, releasing violent criminals in jail on the streets is going to help violence on the streets... haha
I want this mayor as my president
2 things to aid the black community
1. Education of the real black history for students white and black all over America and an open space to discuss it, without fear of recrimination or judgment.
2. Get rid of guns.
As a black guy what Ta-Nehisi said has to be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. Let violent criminals out of jail to fix a community. I was with him all the way until then. He had the opportunity and platform to speak intelligently about the situation and blew it.
Thank you so much.
Google: Judi Grace StoryCorps.
Ta-Nehisi is a baby. Wish he would debate someone like Larry Elder, or Thomas Sowell. Most of his talking points would last 2 seconds before getting shut down.
"Love Ya" by Blood Orange
Worst idea of the year... why don’t we just let everyone out!? Hell let’s give them their guns back too as they leave. It’ll surely have only positive outcomes.
33:33-33:45
What the devil won't admit is that the neighborhoods were designed for us to do this to each other!
Now what has come of this
These comments often mirror the barrier to problem solving: criticism of two people, one white, one black, trying to find solutions while passive participants on here superficially critique their heroic efforts.
"Race, Class , and Violence in Urban America" will answer your question goo book
White guy on the right was going "Aaaaaa" and it's driving me up the fucking wall
48:00 Again, wtf does hurricane katrina have to do with jobs and education? Why would a hurricane make these things any better than they were before? They have nothing to do with each other.
Uh uh uh uh uh....Jesus the first guy said uuuuuhmmm so much
I cant stand back up we aint got no help we being held on the ground and the chair was takin
The mayor is on the statistics, that's key. The who is pointless. The how to solve is the statistics that can prove what can work. White shirt have one direction and we've heard all that, we know all that, that's what's not working. White supremacy? There are no whites in this deal, move on. White shirt wants to blame, forget that, stay on point. It is fixable. Accountability, family, us, we, that's what I'm hearing. His point is to do it now don't rely on anything. Personal responsibility. Hay white shirt, how's the blame thing working so far? I agree with you on violence but the numbers are way out of control. Your dangerous by admitting to release violent criminals, that's insane. Your impudent sir. You solve nothing. You need to listen!
A nearly worthless debate. Coates should have been matched with a conservative intellectual rather than a politician. Landrieu practically fell over himself to apologize for his views and rather weak objections to several assertions made by Coates. I relish the day when Coates agrees to occupy the stage with an intellectual conservative who will be able to challenge some of his problematic logic.
Tanehisi looks a fool with the mayor's ending statement
The cultural icons endorsed by a community represents their collective mentality.
The mayor is doing more talking than listening. The communities that are slow to come back are the black communities. If you want to fix the problem do what you have been doing for the white communities and give it 30 years.
The point about the term "Black on Black crime" may be used by conservatives as a reflection of the responsibility of society and the justice system to value Black people equally, but the real or original point is to emphasize the absurdity of this self destructive behavior, in light of the reality of the outside forces that are aligned in opposition to our well being and advancement. That people kill people in close proximity to themselves is beside or not even the point. The numbers being out of proportion, should be in the other direction for us. That is the point. Coates being from Baltimore, should remember or have heard of The late Congressmen Parren J. Mitchell having started the slogan " Us Killing Us equals Genocide" back in the late 70's to mid 80's. It pains me that we as a people, do not understand or appreciate this basic reality.
Ta-Nehisi Coates one of the greatest minds today
Ryan Johnson No answer, no responsibility. White people are responsible for you thinking about clothes. Clothes that kept had to think about to keep you safe? Bulletproof vest I suppose. Total BS... Same old rhetoric. Why is Africa so violent? White Americans? Pffft- Time to change the tune.
Ask George...
Like Coates said it is by design and noone is shocked
If Coates actually knew or cared about the specific "designs" he would be a conservative
Coates opens by describing "bullying,' does he think that does not happen to white kids?
40:00 If these black activists aren't willing to meet anyone half way on something as simple as personal responsibility then there's no point to this. Again at 43:50
I think the mayor is trying to make too many points. He's difficult to follow, and it's frustrating.
So far this mayor comes off as well-meaning and uninformed. I wonder if he’s ever sat with New Orleans activists to discuss these matters.
Its crazy to me how people like this Coates guy thinks that there will be any chance to improve the situation for the parts of the black community that need it most.
He can afford to play like hes a black pantget but the negative effect this has on everyday people is way bigger than anyone realizes.
I always hear people quoting people like Malcolm X & others like him that I had real respect for but today this new message is toxic and hurting poor black people by far the most.
Coates lives in denial.. .2015 and 2021
Why....dose the moderator say "AHH" About Five thousand times???!!!!!!! GOT DAMN ....SICKENING!!!!! But these are the ones getting these jobs, and setting the standards for us (black people) to aspire to!!! Where they do this shit.....
That mayor is a champ the black guy is a lil victim beta
We need to lessen the amount of people pushing other people out of the chair! Also, the mayor, while passionate about the “black on black” crime, was overlooking the fact that the reason that there are rallies against police harm is because they are professionally trained to represent law and order but more importantly to kill
Ahhh, Ahhhh, Ummmm. Uhmmm, Ahhh, AHHH, AHHH. Public speaking lessons
needed.
No one stays down after being pushed off a chair; and to parrot Coates: it's always the fault of the person who pushed. This guys metaphor is tortured.
Man you know what, Ta-Nehisi Coates is acting like he isn’t clued into exactly what the mayor is talking about here. He’s a smart man right? He’s playing dumb and it’s a disgrace to watch. He should know better than to build straw men.
And what’s with this chummy stuff between him and the host? It immediately sets the mayor up as the outsider. Why is the host tapping the mayor on the elbow as if to say-ok that’s enough now. This is a serious discussion about American youth being disgustingly slaughtered on American streets. Let them start joking about his Brazil nut allergy or whatever in front of the mothers of these young men who’ve been killed. It’s tacky, it’s wrong and really just…bizarre.
Can you imagine what this actually looks like? People’s heads blown out on the street. It’s horrific. I’m sorry to have to describe this in such graphic terms- but we MUST talk about it this way. Because this video is only one example of how we as Americans have failed to look this horror in the face. And in turn, normalized something so very abnormal.
I’m frustrated for the mayor. He’s saying this is not right! This is not normal-and he’s being gaslit. The only thing he can do is go back to his city, stay certain in his resolve and push forward with trying to save lives.
Stop the "Ah" "Ah" "Ah" puleez!
Ta-Nehisi doesn't know NOLA nor LA in general....shit is different here and the activism and agency manifest in other places in the U.S. are relatively ABSENT in NOLA and LA!!!!!!!!!!
Oh my god I ha
22 minutes into the video and red lining has not yet been mentioned. Segregation and public policies disenfranchised black, brown and red communities.
guy needed more coach classes i feel. how can someone be so dumb to take his PERSONAL expereince and claim its true for whole America/world. he is not refencenig people, he s not bringing up studies. for me, black suffering is mostly caused by other blacks and this opinion is backed up by a lot of people and their studies.
well Mr. Coates lost me meaning in the first few seconds I'm not hearing the answer or resolution to the problem of violence yet speaking of your ritual of going to school all I'm saying so sorry I get bored quickly.
I generally like Mitch Landrieu, but I do not perceive what support there is for his opening remarks that we are "better off today" compared with 50 years ago in terms of race relations and the component parts of national, state and local public policies that foster its detrimental effects.
If we go back 50 years Landrieu would be referring to the Civil Rights era in and around 1965 which included affirmative action, a functioning federal agency -- EEOC -- whose mandate was to protect employment rights, and many other federal and administrative leveling, equity-seeking governmental mechanisms. At that time the pendulum of justice was swinging toward greater parity. In contrast, as of 2015 when this video was taped and today 2017 when I am writing this response, that same equity pendulum is swinging hard in the opposite direction toward resumption of segregation and exclusion based on race, economic and social class, as well as citizenship designations. That is "better off?" I think not.
In Landrieu's defense, it is often "the Southern way" to soft-soap unpleasant reality as a polite gesture, I learned from my Louisiana born and reared family. However, it reduces the impact of his real concerns which I deeply share.
Oh my god I had to stop 2 mins in because I cannot stand the constant "Uhhhh" between every two words. ughhhh !!!
Ta-Nehisi Coates; black apologist extraordinaire. love to see Ben Shapiro get a hold of this joker.
Violence is a function of every culture. Debate over. You're welcome.
Uh! Uh! Uhh ... Uhh.. uhh...uhh... Uhh. Uhh....
Sounds like the mayor actually wants to solve problems and Ta-Nehisi just wants to lecture about race and himself. Like wtf does Dylann Roof have to do with this?
Coates is in denial & lacks objectivity.
Coates has no solution. Disappointed
Silly title
OMG....the Uhhhh Um's are atrocious!!