It is so sad and shameful that so many human beings in history have used the colour of somebody's skin, in the shameful illusion that they are different and should be treated differently, in so many unjust ways. Being treated less fairly, less respectfully, less equal, ignoring their individuality and potential, is so wrong and unacceptable. Well done to such individuals as Barbera Fields and Ta Neshisi Coates in respectively continuing to strive to educate members of the human race, in making it a better, more respectful and fairer world for all. Very inspiring, Thank you!
I have respect and would like to thank each and every person who attended this discussion. You will be leading us into the future, beautiful critical thought = the human mind doing exactly what it was designed to do. One of my favorite sayings is ...Once you realize how immensely powerful a human mind is you will understand why they try so very hard to control yours.
This guy is the real deal! He is a promo for writer and icon already. My only advice for him is to stay grounded and not let his acquaintance with popular media deter his path and drive. His case for reparations for blacks is a solid argument and he pens it with brilliant prose in his book. Stay black and strong and wishing you the wildest success TMH can bestow on his instruments of change. Shalom!
I requested this book and The Fire Next Time from the library about 13 minutes into the interview, wow. I am listening, this conversation is long overdue.
Ta-Nehisi unravels historical issues so flawlessly. He knows what to focus on in order to bring understanding to our racial and social uneasiness. His explanations help me to have balance on issues that I was a little shaky on before. I`m sure there are a lot of black folks saying, "so that`s what was going on!". I keep finding myself saying "ain`t that right", 😆He brings clarity to these muddy racial issues. It seems to boil down to "FOLLOW THE MONEY". I like the word he uses, PLUNDER, it`s so appropriate.
The comments under this video only prove why we need to hear more from black voices. Not just Coates, but many, many others. Before you make a judgement, please. Try and listen.
54 year old southern white male in the process of reading "Between the World and Me" on the recommendation of my daughter. Should be required reading for every white person in America! I was raised to be open and compassionate toward all people regardless of race, but not necessarily to all cultures. I have struggled to understand that, at some level, you cannot separate the two, but you also cannot assume one based on the other. Thank you for this book and for this interview. I wish I had the exposure to this type of literature in high school! "The Fire Next Time" is on my nightstand and next up for me...again, on the recommendation of my daughter. I am so thankful that my wife and I have successfully broken the cycle of racism that existed in both of our families by raising obejectively thouhhtful and caring children who are now adults! For me, this is due to my mother who challenged the norms of her family's culture and went her own way raising her kids. I love how my adult kids keep challenging me to be a better person!
Thank you, so well stated " Mediocre" a measuring line for reaching a standard. Yard sticks are still prevalent but we have to keep working at it. Ta Nehisi Coates (Water Dancer ), eloquent and Timely, thank you for a thought provoking discussion.
Never looked into the books Nip read but not surprised this is one. Im here for because we are reading this for class but that is dope nip read the book.
If you hate a society so powerfully that you could watch a tragedy like 9/11 fold out and feel nothing, you need to get out of that society. But of course he won't because he wouldn't be a millionaire author in Africa, he would actually have to do real work there just to put some food in his belly. I'm sick of people hating America with so much passion but having no qualms with enjoying the prosperity it allowed them.
@makokx7063 your response to Mr. Coates is very interesting. This is the same response that Black people have heard since the beginning of this country. You understood what he was saying but you chose to carry the water of this country's script for Black Americans. Don't say anything against a country that has never had your people's best interests at hand. Yet, those people you despise have fought in every war "your" country has every had, for you to live the privilege life you want too. You want Black people to get over or go back to Africa or some other country, and they have been here longer then you. Black people believe in those words that the Founding Slaveowners wrote in Philadelphia. I wish the country believe those words. Just because one negro makes it, in your mind, say more about you. As Mr Coates mention. Black people will know they made it. When they can make it and just be mediocre. Nothing in all the world is more dangerous then sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. Dr. King STAY WOKE!!
His book is great! I love the way he describes himself. I liked the way he deconstructed racism in the U.S. The only time I lost a little respect for him was when he described his feelings for the police and firemen who died during 9/11 on page 86 and 87. He did not show any empathy for those who died that day. I may be biased with this thought though as I did not know anyone who died, but instead went to Iraq for people I did not know, like Ta-Nehisi, so they would not have to. Hopefully his cold heart as he described on that day has since softened.
That is not a cold heart, it is perspective through his eyes. Personally being a white kiwi i could understand his point of view very well. Maybe its time to have a good hard look at society and the obedient indoctrinated drones it produces? I'm an Englishman living in (The actual) greatest country in the world, New Zealand and this (to me at least) is a masterpiece and should be discussed in every school. May be read some Alain De Botton or better still Jaques Fresco. Robert suppolski may be able to help with why you have trouble understanding.
@@justinjohnstoneowen3408 His perspective is cold hearted, he said all the emergency responders "black,white, or whatever" were menaces. And why, for helping people? How is that not cold hearted
+Darrick Herndon that is a beautiful thing if you ask me! I'm surprised I've never noticed that. I have read ALL of those books besides Richard Wright's "White Man Listen." I think I will add that to my list.
But reading Ta Nehisi's book, it's far from Baldwinesk, so to speak. His book was fraught with ambiguous metaphors and generally bombastic language that ironically doesn't resonate with his audience - he wrote the book for his 15 yr son in today's society. After reading it you end up with a sense of uncertainty while still believing, whatever he meant, it was good for black people. But really he could have done better.
I disagree, one thing I don't like about being black is being limited to black cultural identity. A cool thing about whites is that they don't have a cultural identity, therefore, they are free to believe and behave in a wide variety of ways without judgement by fellow whites. Where you might hear blacks tell other blacks, "Blacks don't do that!" you will never hear whites say, "Whites don't do that!" Where you might here "You're not really black" you will never hear whites tell other whites "you're not really white." History aside, because of their neutrality, whites currently act as common denominators, or conduits, between races.
There has been discussion amongst my peers at least, that the label white should be dropped, as we aren't white. My husband and I share no common nationalities at all, and this is reflected in benign things like our favorite comfort foods, rituals of day to day lives ect. Yet we live under the umbrella of white.....Coates also mentions in his book that White is simply a label of privilege, and black is a label of oppression. I see that reflected in my neighborhood: my neighbors identify as Haitian, Nigerian, Jamaican. White as a label of privilege.I see them observe the differences between all the other "black" people. even though in society in the US people consider them black (under the label of opression). I am sorry I am going on about this, but I am trying to understand what I can do to change the society I live in.
Every white person I know who grew up poor has felt a belt to his back. Im puerto rican and I’ve felt that leather. White kids have no problem smacking their parents
There are other worlds. You think too highly of yourself. There are blacks in journalism, entire sports teams, stop crying cause you not kanye. You wanna cry yourself to the top? Then what?
@@he96765, my dream is deeply rooted into the American Dream. I have a dream that one day American will own up to its racist history, redress the wealth gap caused by that history, and provide closure so that we may be a stronger nation. I definitely have a dream.
It is so sad and shameful that so many human beings in history have used the colour of somebody's skin, in the shameful illusion that they are different and should be treated differently, in so many unjust ways. Being treated less fairly, less respectfully, less equal, ignoring their individuality and potential, is so wrong and unacceptable. Well done to such individuals as Barbera Fields and Ta Neshisi Coates in respectively continuing to strive to educate members of the human race, in making it a better, more respectful and fairer world for all. Very inspiring, Thank you!
I have respect and would like to thank each and every person who attended this discussion. You will be leading us into the future, beautiful critical thought = the human mind doing exactly what it was designed to do. One of my favorite sayings is ...Once you realize how immensely powerful a human mind is you will understand why they try so very hard to control yours.
This guy is the real deal! He is a promo for writer and icon already. My only advice for him is to stay grounded and not let his acquaintance with popular media deter his path and drive. His case for reparations for blacks is a solid argument and he pens it with brilliant prose in his book. Stay black and strong and wishing you the wildest success TMH can bestow on his instruments of change. Shalom!
loycelaurentius yea he should clique up with Dr. Claude Anderson.
This book is AMAZING! I recommend it to everyone!
where can i get it for free ??
@@kamalbitthem1166 did u get the book yet
@@kamalbitthem1166 Your local library.
The book is very well written and a honest account of what life is like for a Black male growing up in America.
I requested this book and The Fire Next Time from the library about 13 minutes into the interview, wow. I am listening, this conversation is long overdue.
This man is a JEWEL 💎 in our community!
2019 and I am still amazed by this interview.
I'm a writer and I love what he is saying. I will read the book now.
What'd you think?
What a powerful conversation....I learned alot and was moved to learn and read more. Thank You.
Ta-Nehisi unravels historical issues so flawlessly. He knows what to focus on in order to bring understanding to our racial and social uneasiness. His explanations help me to have balance on issues that I was a little shaky on before. I`m sure there are a lot of black folks saying, "so that`s what was going on!". I keep finding myself saying "ain`t that right", 😆He brings clarity to these muddy racial issues. It seems to boil down to "FOLLOW THE MONEY". I like the word he uses, PLUNDER, it`s so appropriate.
The comments under this video only prove why we need to hear more from black voices. Not just Coates, but many, many others. Before you make a judgement, please. Try and listen.
The tittle of the Book, Between The World and Me is from a Richard Wright poem. Look it up. It will blow you away.
54 year old southern white male in the process of reading "Between the World and Me" on the recommendation of my daughter. Should be required reading for every white person in America! I was raised to be open and compassionate toward all people regardless of race, but not necessarily to all cultures. I have struggled to understand that, at some level, you cannot separate the two, but you also cannot assume one based on the other.
Thank you for this book and for this interview. I wish I had the exposure to this type of literature in high school!
"The Fire Next Time" is on my nightstand and next up for me...again, on the recommendation of my daughter. I am so thankful that my wife and I have successfully broken the cycle of racism that existed in both of our families by raising obejectively thouhhtful and caring children who are now adults! For me, this is due to my mother who challenged the norms of her family's culture and went her own way raising her kids. I love how my adult kids keep challenging me to be a better person!
Thank you, so well stated " Mediocre" a measuring line for reaching a standard. Yard sticks are still prevalent but we have to keep working at it. Ta Nehisi Coates (Water Dancer ), eloquent and Timely, thank you for a thought provoking discussion.
Yes, more conversations like this
Was sent here from the Marathon book club inspired by the late Nipsey Hussle
prince scott 🏁🇪🇷
Never looked into the books Nip read but not surprised this is one. Im here for because we are reading this for class but that is dope nip read the book.
I suggest that anyone who loves the book and hates white supremacy , listen to The C.O.W.S. program (on TH-cam) where the book is discussed.
babyblueLEGEND white supremacy? 😣
Fabulous interview.
Thank you
This is awesome! I have an online book club. Can I share this video on the site with credit?
If you hate a society so powerfully that you could watch a tragedy like 9/11 fold out and feel nothing, you need to get out of that society. But of course he won't because he wouldn't be a millionaire author in Africa, he would actually have to do real work there just to put some food in his belly. I'm sick of people hating America with so much passion but having no qualms with enjoying the prosperity it allowed them.
@makokx7063 your response to Mr. Coates is very interesting. This is the same response that Black people have heard since the beginning of this country. You understood what he was saying but you chose to carry the water of this country's script for Black Americans. Don't say anything against a country that has never had your people's best interests at hand. Yet, those people you despise have fought in every war "your" country has every had, for you to live the privilege life you want too. You want Black people to get over or go back to Africa or some other country, and they have been here longer then you. Black people believe in those words that the Founding Slaveowners wrote in Philadelphia. I wish the country believe those words.
Just because one negro makes it, in your mind, say more about you. As Mr Coates mention. Black people will know they made it. When they can make it and just be mediocre.
Nothing in all the world is more dangerous then sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. Dr. King STAY WOKE!!
His book is great! I love the way he describes himself. I liked the way he deconstructed racism in the U.S. The only time I lost a little respect for him was when he described his feelings for the police and firemen who died during 9/11 on page 86 and 87. He did not show any empathy for those who died that day. I may be biased with this thought though as I did not know anyone who died, but instead went to Iraq for people I did not know, like Ta-Nehisi, so they would not have to. Hopefully his cold heart as he described on that day has since softened.
That is not a cold heart, it is perspective through his eyes. Personally being a white kiwi i could understand his point of view very well. Maybe its time to have a good hard look at society and the obedient indoctrinated drones it produces? I'm an Englishman living in (The actual) greatest country in the world, New Zealand and this (to me at least) is a masterpiece and should be discussed in every school. May be read some Alain De Botton or better still Jaques Fresco. Robert suppolski may be able to help with why you have trouble understanding.
@@justinjohnstoneowen3408 His perspective is cold hearted, he said all the emergency responders "black,white, or whatever" were menaces. And why, for helping people? How is that not cold hearted
@@justinjohnstoneowen3408 he is cold hearted for that and you are a psychopath for denying it is
The title "Between the World and Me" is actually ripped from a passage on page 27 of The Fire Next Time
Next on my reading list Aaron...I suppose that Baldwin borrowed from Wright...and Coates from Baldwin...
"Between me and the other world there is an ever unansked question." ~ WEB Dubois Chapter 1.....The Souls of Black Folks....
+Darrick Herndon that is a beautiful thing if you ask me! I'm surprised I've never noticed that. I have read ALL of those books besides Richard Wright's "White Man Listen." I think I will add that to my list.
Im watching a man who (also) Says what he means and means what he says. Very smart very awake good on you Ta-Nehisi get em son.
what is the name of the book that he mention between 9 - 10 min
I'm Italian I can't understand
The Fire Next Time by James Baldwin
I ended up watching the entire thing lol
But reading Ta Nehisi's book, it's far from Baldwinesk, so to speak. His book was fraught with ambiguous metaphors and generally bombastic language that ironically doesn't resonate with his audience - he wrote the book for his 15 yr son in today's society. After reading it you end up with a sense of uncertainty while still believing, whatever he meant, it was good for black people. But really he could have done better.
Maureen (editor) and Kevin from the movie 27 dresses
This is the same man who said the 9-11 emergency responders weren't human in this book
Edit: WTF is wrong with y'all
Thar CHUCKLES IS EVERYTHING
Amen Halmoor
As a muslim, asra noumani pretty much destroyed the hijab wearing women. Matter of fact she annihilated her!
I disagree, one thing I don't like about being black is being limited to black cultural identity. A cool thing about whites is that they don't have a cultural identity, therefore, they are free to believe and behave in a wide variety of ways without judgement by fellow whites.
Where you might hear blacks tell other blacks, "Blacks don't do that!" you will never hear whites say, "Whites don't do that!" Where you might here "You're not really black" you will never hear whites tell other whites "you're not really white." History aside, because of their neutrality, whites currently act as common denominators, or conduits, between races.
that's a powerful statement.
There has been discussion amongst my peers at least, that the label white should be dropped, as we aren't white. My husband and I share no common nationalities at all, and this is reflected in benign things like our favorite comfort foods, rituals of day to day lives ect. Yet we live under the umbrella of white.....Coates also mentions in his book that White is simply a label of privilege, and black is a label of oppression. I see that reflected in my neighborhood: my neighbors identify as Haitian, Nigerian, Jamaican. White as a label of privilege.I see them observe the differences between all the other "black" people. even though in society in the US people consider them black (under the label of opression). I am sorry I am going on about this, but I am trying to understand what I can do to change the society I live in.
Ashli Sisk whites and blacks just have to come together. that would solve most of the problem.
I still think language counts.
Ashli Sisk please subscribe to my channel.
Howards newspaper is called 'The Hill top'?
Yes, “The Hilltop.” Howard University sits atop a hill in DC. The schools library’s dome is actually the tallest point in DC.
We’d know we have arrived when we have a right to be mediocre 😂😂👏🏾
Every white person I know who grew up poor has felt a belt to his back. Im puerto rican and I’ve felt that leather. White kids have no problem smacking their parents
Save your brain cells and listen to Thomas Sowell or Walter Williams instead.
There are other worlds. You think too highly of yourself. There are blacks in journalism, entire sports teams, stop crying cause you not kanye. You wanna cry yourself to the top? Then what?
Where is our reparations?
Keep dreaming
@@he96765, my dream is deeply rooted into the American Dream. I have a dream that one day American will own up to its racist history, redress the wealth gap caused by that history, and provide closure so that we may be a stronger nation. I definitely have a dream.
Seems like a nice guy but not a deep thinker like James Baldwin. Should have stuck to the history.