Richard Rothstein, "The Color Of Law" (with Ta-Nehisi Coates)
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In this rigorous examination of U.S. housing policy, Rothstein exposes a century of unconstitutional federal, state, and local laws designed to segregate American cities. He combines legal research with heartbreaking human stories to demonstrate the history and impact of this government push for segregation, including its influence on tragedies like those in Ferguson and Baltimore. The Color of Law is the first book to debunk the myth that racial segregation after Jim Crow arose from private prejudice, and it provides an entirely new perspective on our segregated neighborhoods-and new strategies to address the injustices that divide them.
Rothstein is in conversation with Ta-Nehisi Coates. Coates is a national correspondent for The Atlantic, a MacArthur ‘genius’ grant winner, and the author of The Beautiful Struggle and Between the World and Me, which won the National Book Award for nonfiction in 2015.
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Not only is this a violation of the 14th Amendment, our history text books doesn't even acknowledge these past events. How can we update our history books for the next generation of students?
@raymond Anthony it will never happened.
@@mikeaskme3530 I'm a figment of your imagination
Write your government.
The first step would be to start a the lowest level-- Board of Education, the publishing companies (who no doubt have a special contract with the public schools) and your local and state legislators. It will be an uphill battle, but unlike Mike Askme says, this is something that can be accomplished.
If you do it, they will call it Critical Race Theory
I have read "The Color of Law" and I loved it !!!!! Wonderful presentation.
I so enjoyed listening to your conversation and question and answer period as well. I am still reading the book The Color of Law but, as a black woman, I must confess that I have to take it slowly, because I find myself getting so angry! The information is so priceless!
In the beginning, you mentioned schools and the stressors and challenges of teachers in minority schools. I need to share a personal story because you didn't address this issue. My husband and I used to deliver classroom projects to schools here in Newark, NJ, and the surrounding areas and such! I was agast to find out students had to ask for toilet paper when going to the bathroom because teachers were exaperated when it went missing so frequently. Unfortunately, they could not see the anxiety it would cause a student to humble themselves to have to ask for the toilet paper going to the rest room.
Concern over the missing toilet paper, instead of concern about their students! In how many other ways are teachers looking over the tender spirits minority students, and like society at large, degrading our children by expecting the worst or propegating the lies we've been sold?
Now the projects we were delivering were very expensive in spite of the cost of the materials. No concern about that expense, only something as easily replaceable as toilet paper. Obviously, often missing at home!
Obviously missing at home?
Manmade governing of others opposes the design of governing..which is Governing oneself in accordance with our “Conscience Connection”..spiritually connection to the Most High God. which is not religion, it’s our DNA imputed to us humans from our Creator to ensure a pathway to access guiding help from Him.
Remember, The Most High told us He is a ‘Jealous God’ meaning Do Not Listen/OBEY ANY Voice except His…
My grandson attended K12 Online Homeschool and the program was a no gap curriculum. I was his coach, he had 3 large, thorough history books. The histories of colonization, all the wars, slavery, reconstruction, the books were better than any history books I had in school. K12 rocks.
Would you mind providing the titled of those books?
I'd like to purchase them for my progeny...😊
@@Narrow-Pather Seconded, but I’d also like the name of the homeschooling program.
..now for those folks who can't half read or add or subtract....
Great job mr Richard for writing this book
I actually listened to this book as I was falling asleep and waking to rewind to catch what I missed, I am speechless. I had to Google TH-cam to hear him in an in-person interview. I was so disturbed by the book.
I visit my Dad often in Monterey, CA. I noticed that even LOW INCOME HOUSING is a third rail issue for many of the neighborhoods in that area. There was some land in or just outside Pacific Grove set aside for low income housing. I suspect it was meant for the service and tourism industry employees who can't afford to live close to their low wage jobs. Well, the wealthy neighbors have appeared at all the hearings to yell and scream, "Over my dead body!" and they have successfully held up any construction. African-Americans get double-whammied because of their race and their low income.
I am like Mr Coates in my hopelessly hopeless assessment of Black progress. That is why I've chosen to see myself now as a Christian... Now I'm an Overcomer this new psychological positioning keeps me hope filled in the Most High, and victorious in EVWRYTHING I do. Including loving those lying and deceiving churches...Loving them according to the will of God..
@@nicolekinzonzi1832 Good Luck
Perhaps understand the role our African American nations have performed not under the US southern political strategy. At the end of the civil war there was no victory the illegal activities of criminals organizations overthrowing the colonies trespassing killing murdering massacres robbing pillaging plundering across the plains the lakes streams river's destroyed by the political science agenda ideology of industrial revolution left millions of native Americans nations enslaved under force by their beloved military campaigning. It has been a long journey from horrendous atrocities perpetrated around the world. It has nothing to do with their racist narratives of these poor low income black people. When there are more "poor white trash" Trailer trash " as they are referred too in the political science arena. However, just take black African people out of the equation?. What would it be ?. It was communism? Before that it was religious persecution before that it was horrendous barbarians rapists murders mental illness beyond reasonable explanation. Sciencentific researchers experiments eugenics. They need too stop trying too evade reality by projecting their self image onto black African nations in America.
@@fayebrokaw2453what the hell are you babbling about? You’re all over the place.
Thank you for posting. I am listening to Richard Rothstein on a webinar right now, and had watched a documentary with his narration on the U.S. Government creating segregated housings across the U.S.A. Date: 13aug20
I will be getting these for gifts this holiday season. 💚
Everyone who reads this book, should no longer ask the question “What about crime in Chicago, Baltimore,etc.? The question that should be asked is “What are the conditions or public policies that created and segregated the crime?” Research the history of these cities and one will respect this book.
Most African Americans in this country have southern roots. African Americans “great migration” from the southern to northern and western states, was mainly due to Domestic terrorism and southern Jim Crow. Unfortunately, as Malcolm X pointed out about racism in the United States…”As long as you’re south of the Canadian border, you’re south.”
Every black person should read this book period.
I think Black ppl are well aware non Black ppl should read it.
Thank you for your help.
Great question after 1:11:00.
That question at the 1:12:00 MARK......SOLID!
Excellent! This is often left out of teaching, even at the college level. So are the roots of class, race and gender stratified categories, instituted by the Western European patriarchy, as the founding designers of capitalism. It was the thing to do back then
Rothstein details racist economic REGS and you say thats capitalism. But capitalism has only markets, no regs. Your govt God has been exposed.
@@kipwonder2233 You substitute arbitrary association for definition. Capitalism is the society of individual rights, the main political enemy of Leftists and Rightists. Man in society needs his free will mind, his basic method of survival, needs freedom from the initiation of force. The morality of freedom is rights. Capitalism is the misleading name of that society. It should be called individualism, the main political enemy of Leftists and Rightists.
Citizens United properly protects freedom of speech of the individuals who own corps. That freedom continues when individuals peacably assemble in production. When the came for the corps, you were silent. When they came for you, it was too late. Youre trying to get high without having to pay.
One of the best videos I've ever watched.
Came from the NYRB review of Rothstein's book, will check this out.
Great information
Segregated dining and rest rooms were only enforceable through legislation as not too many businesses are keen on the addition of dining areas and rest rooms in the times of scarcity that the late 40's and mid 50's were known for... especially with no additional revenue.
Thank you
Good conversation
When I speak to young black men about racism I alway direct my attention to the federal government. If you know anything about this country history, racism is a system that was created to control black and brown people as it elevates white people to the status which what is considered today as the dominate society. With that being said starting with the Naturalization Act of 1790 leading up to the Homestead Act that was signed into law on May 20, 1862 by Abraham Lincoln the very same President that signed the Emancipation Proclamation in 1863 less than a year later free the slaves. Even though he freed the slaves he also made it impossible for black and brown people to own property. The government or should I say politicians have played the largest role in the construction of the system that we call racism. Racism is a system that is design to control ones fate and destiny and the only people that has the power to do so are the very same people that you vote into power year after year. The biggest threat to black and brown people in america is the government and has always have been. History don't lie.
Harvey Chestnut ..... well said,,and very true... these politicians and their policies like "the war on drugs" are the greatest opposition to blacks... the irony is that many blacks don't even vote against these same politicians because many blacks don't vote at all and in essence has contributed to our own demise with our own form of cognitive dissonance and ignorance
when whites self segregate away from blacks as in white flight they were not trying to control blacks ………………..just get away from them
You must redirect your attention from the government and direct your attention towards the puppet masters that control the money. They don’t need to control the government. They control the money, they control the government. So research the banking cartel, the federal reserve which is not a federal agency that prints our money and loans that money to the government. They took us off of the gold asset standard to be on a debt system. A house in 1964 cost $24000 and now cost $350000 by inflation or inflated dollar. During that same time, you didn’t need college, now it’s a must but not to educate you. It allows a debt to be created so they can print more currency - 10x the debt. $70000 education debt allows FR to print $700000. The only debt you cannot place in a bankruptcy.
@James Registe what am I ignorant about?
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That question at 51 min was real af
PAUL WHALEY what about that was racist she said why she believed poor whites voted for Donald Trump and talked about the expanding definition of whiteness not to long ago most Europeans weren't considered White
PAUL WHALEY she didn't sound like a trump supporter at all most Trump supporters I know are not self aware they don't see any deep undertones into why they support Trump it's just that he will give us Jobs and he is a Tru (white) American that will take us to a 1950s fantasy land and Trump supporters would never want Hispanics to be under the umbrella of whiteness
I really enjoyed the video you sent me it was really informative and listening to it several times I'm not sure anymore the question was very ambiguous to what her beliefs were it is either that she is the most self-aware racist of all time that doesn't hide her racism with stereotypical terms or she is a fan of the author who goes to forums like that because she is very knowledgeable about the history of race in this country and was trying to put herself in the white trump supporters too and ask if that was a valid reason why poor whites voted for trump
PAUL WHALEY I hear exactly what you're saying I just have a hard time believing that a racist would Willingly attend an event with TaNehisi Coates I just really can't wrap my head around why therefore I'ma give her the benefit of the doubt
true! and there it is, the belief that in order for one group to prosper the other group must suffer more proof it is by design! that is supremacy! feeling that one group is deserving to have more than the other. twisted!
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GOVERNMENT IS THE PROBLEM AND WILL ALWAYS BE THE PROBLEM. GOVERNMENT ALSO SOLUTION. REPARATIONS FOR DOS.
DOS is an incorrect reference to our status. Makes us victims from an origination. It should be DOE descendants of enslaved
@Chet Simmons PREACH! Because the government and who is in the government depends on us. So the government is a reflection on American beliefs. We have a racist government because we have a majority who still maintain racist beliefs. These beliefs though are not unconscious and implicit.
What is the racial make-up of the homeless population? There must be a disproportionate number of African Americans. And when people ask, "Why did this happen?", surely segregation fuels the tendency to generalize about people we never see or interact with. When people grow up with separation, as several generations have, then sheer cultural habit reinforces our sense of "the way things are". What will motivate the US, as a country (!!), to seriously address, much less resolve, this issue????
Margaret take a look at skid row LA you will see a lot of homeless black men.
Denver is 12% Black, but 38% of its homeless population are Black.
Yes, you are correct. Banks here have literally attacked historically Black neighborhoods to gentrify them.
Study Rothstein's book, get together a group of like minds, and head to DC to talk to Ben Carson. Or your governor. The conversation feels good, but the "conversation" must become action.
The reality of China will bring these issues into focus. Thanks for your information and effort.
Who was the woman who spoke of hope? I feel that she needs to be recognized. She made a question along the lines of this one: "How is fixing the textbooks going to helps solve the problem, if the so many myths that power our societal hate against blacks were created intentionally?"
While I appreciate His expressions, This perspective seems to stop short of acknowledgement of personal culpability by the human beings crafting & leading the efforts of segregation despite the climate, personal and/or political. Courage is needed to forge any meaningful inclusion of those tribes preferred to remain rejected…
Most aptly known as an endeavor in circular thinking
I wish every black America should hear this video or read this book
I just listened last night as I was falling off to sleep. It was the most disturbing yet informative yet anger provoking book in a long time. I was growing up experiencing these acts, yet being a youngster, I didn't fully understand why things were happening the way they were happening. Knowledge is power and people young especially need to be educated in these matters. America is good at hiding its history.
The lady at 1:13:11 in the blue top... she was 100% in deconstructing the complex ideas and issues on Colonialism and institutional laws of the land. Critical thinkers are necessary and they are rare.
This book and it’s collection shows , it’s not reparations for 400 years of slavery. But , the continuation of racism , in policy , legislation, laws, status, local and federal. I hear various legislators stating they don’t feel . They should pay reparations for things of the past. This work shows , much of the reparations talk should be noted that these racist policies continue even today .
Generally, Zoning practices date back to ‘Pre New Deal’ Era
1:11:11. What an amazing question.
@11:00
So according to the author the government can’t tell people what to do but at one time the government told people what to do like segregate. How can the author be both right for saying it’s unlawful for the government to segregate and wrong for saying the government can’t tell people what to do when it’s evident the government is the source of America’s segregation by way of telling people what to do unapologetically segregate
The government did not tell people what to do. The government created policies and laws that made people do what they did. Have you ever tried going uo against the US government? Try it and tell me about it.
Colorado had racial zoning as well, but today it's, I think, one of the least segregated states....I've lived here 40 years.
51:30 question deep.
This book as well as “The Color of Money” and “The Half Has Never Been Told” should be required in K -12.
I agree that the false narratives and myths have to be debunked, before you can discuss remedies. So-called individualism has never existed in this country. As Dr. King stated…”This country has socialism for the rich, rugged individualism for the poor.”
It's evident that government is not a force for good, but an entity that continues to create destruction. Yet, folks still hold hope in this false god.
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I'm glad that this conversation is presented. I do hope that people will be mindful that this is NOT to say... that ALL black people have been brought up in segregated black low-income neighborhoods, and did not gain a good education as a result. I'm not saying that that makes those of us any better. I'm saying, I hope this does not send the wrong message turning this into a negative stereotype of all black people. I hope society will finally wake up and stop denying that segregation is alive and kicking and accept that segregation is just plain wrong!
Your point is really really dumb. No one reading that book-unless they too were a dummy-would come away and think what you are saying here. Neither the book or the conversation here, makes any point that would have someone thinking what you are saying.
Your introduction was way too long!
This is my first time watching the video and I was thinking the same thing and I saw your comment. What is the point of such a long introduction since they are going to speak at great length about the very topic he's introducing?🙄
I think you focused on the wrong things
Our ancestors were REALLY evil and hateful!🤮
I don't believe reparations should be paid out as some sort of cash check. That would probably accomplish very little. Reparations should come in the form of housing, or something more generationally substantial.
I don't want any reparations.... that's a victim mindset.
@@maxxwellbeing5208 That's perfectly ok. Just decline it. But I would only ask that you don't try to discourage people who need it and who would accept it.
@@maxxwellbeing5208 Your page indicated that you're a Troll. You'd likely not be eligible since your ancestors were likely the culprits of evil deeds.
Your ancestors weren't enslaved. They weren't freed only to spend the next century being subjected to Jim Crowe and the like. They aren't being stripped of their humanity and hard fought for civil rights.
Of course you don't want to right your ancestors wrongs. You're the beneficiary of those I'll gotten gains.
You have no right to speak on what we should be given or accept for the atrocities done to us, and our ancestors.
You obviously suffer from a conflict of interest.
Ironically, your page also indicated that you're a Troll!
@UC2OPcOwSOWz2N5B2HW1ZFYw are you talking to me? Because I am Black. Don’t think because I got Dr Evil on here that means I’m not Black lol.
I am working on my earning my teaching certification and I will be teaching Social Studies. I know there is a sure way to integrate American Black history into my lesson plan. It really is simple. But the responsibility is on the teachers. More than 80% of American teachers are white and predominantly women. Finding our history is easy.
Where is the will for the majority?
The pendulum swings both ways. The return swing doesn't stop at equilibrium. No way, nor should it!
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this color of law created so many ignorant "travelers" on the roads today. smh
No there's no hope for this country cuz if there was hope for this country it would have happened 250 years ago it hasn't changed it'll never change 😎😎😎!
Yep. I don't have any hope for the structure that has been established.
Does Rothstein and his congregation live in a black neighborhood?
Statistically, probably not. Does that make him wrong?
Even today white flight is alive and well. I’m not sure how you stop that.
at 1:04:56 Rothstein describes the policy created by Nat'l association of real estate boards that a real estate agent could not sell a home to a black person in a white neighborhood………….he says that this was a violation of the 14th amendment…………………...how is this a violation of the 14th amendment when it explicitly says ""the state''' can not discriminate ?
Because in order to be a real estate agent, a person must have a State license. They are required to follow state laws pertaining to housing sales.
Go read some more, please.
@@nasilamak2201 what state laws would be relevant to this issue?
@@robinsss Well, in Hawaii, the Dept of Commerce Real Estate Branch ensured compliance of Hawaii Real Estate Sales. An agent or company can loose their license if they steer a person into or away from a particular neighborhood based on their skin color or the racial demographic of that neighborhood. That falls under equal access to housing. It is an act that would land an agent in court for violating a persons civil rights and other laws pertaining to home sales.
@@nasilamak2201 ok
but if they did steer someone away because of their race they wouldn't do it in a covert way so it would be hard to prove that they did
Brb gotta go tell all my Vietnamese Punjabi and Egyptian neighbors that they’re too wealthy too educated and moving too fast. They should be poor for hundreds of years before reaching parity with some tweaker in a trailer park if ever. Maybe if I turn up my own personal racism I can stop them from having strong family ties and values. Come on racism, where are you when I need you? Stop those people from working hard, studying and making good decisions.
There's a book called "The Myth of the Model Minority" Robin D'angelo recommends it. You really should read it. The strawman arguments smack of desperation.
i imagine thomas sowell getting ten minutes to respond to all that was said & it makes me laugh at how easily he would dismantle all of it. coates is very vague, naive and he cooks his facts. how he is deeply respected for his thoughts is beyond me.
One has a wild imagination. Mr. Coates is respected for "telling the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help me God." I have never, ever, not know how, believed he has been "vague" and "naive," or reckless with the historical record. Indeed I have every confidence were he so inclined, he'd take down Mr. Sowell with a quickness, as he's seldom met his match in a forum such as this. And Sowell would also be spun like a top were Mr. Rothstein in the mix, making him dizzy twice. In recent years that human has expressed his notions almost exclusively in safe conservative spaces. I'll give you dismantling. With due respect, of course.
Thomas Sowell is too much of a coward, Coates would slaughter him.
absolutely false.@@dontbmadjusbcareful
Even at the beginning, Ta Nehisi thanks Richard says hi acknowledges his work and gives the Mac to him. Richard just starts talking with no acknowledgement to Ta Nehisi even being there! It’s these kind of Microaggressions that are almost innate in White people!
I too noticed this discrepancy, and was saddened. However, the two speakers seemed to mutually respect on another for the rest of the event. I can only conclude that Richard made a social faux-pas, potentially caused by wanting to make sure he got the particular content of his response to Ta Nehisi's question correct.
I would discourage the designation of certain characteristics as being an innate characteristic of a particular "race" or color. As Ta-Nehisi describes at 7:55, "racism becomes transfigured into the idea of race; a label".
I say the above with respect to your opinion, and hope that there was no perceived ill-intent. Much love.
I respect your opinion, but given the context and Rothstein’s body of work on racism and it’s origins, do you think you might be overreacting just a little. Just asking
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Let me guess. Lack of people being personally responsible for their children and broken homes were never blamed for ANY PART of whats wrong in the inner cities. RIGHT?
Well that is a very short-sighted view. When you begin to look at the history and look at the wealth inequality and how certain groups were denied the opportunity of wealth, simply saying that it's because of single parents etc is very small-minded from a historical viewpoint of this country and the economics of this country.
Faithwalkerscharities Or maybe the person is deliberately being deceptive.
Did you read the book? You sound very dumb. Extremely dumb
And what do you know about the inner cites . Have you been in a broken home. It’s people like you that are the problem
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Giving my first opinion at the 12 minute mark. I’m a black man and I’ve heard that integration can help with a lot of different problems and I can see that maybe true but it leaves a bitter taste in my mouth to know that America is so racist that one of the main ways for black people to do better is to grow up in an environment that is not concentrated with black people.
Why does the environment have to be black people, only?
Thomas Smalls it doesn’t have to be. It’s just unfortunate that the way wealth is distributed in America the higher percentage of black people in a neighborhood the lower the property values
Bennett McCoy You have an idealized view. Also speaking from an individualized view is pointless when we are speaking about systemic issues. Your point of view is not only mythological and false it is oppressive because you are looking at people as solely the products of their individual efforts which is absurd. If that was even the case people with money wouldn’t fight so hard to keep people without money out of their neighborhoods and schools.
Bennett McCoy 😂🤣😭 really? This is where we end up with willing ignorance and idealizing the American dream. My head almost exploded because I can give you an example at every level of society but nobody has time for that so let me give you one major one here. The way public schools are funded getting a significant portion of their money from local property taxes. That means if your parents live in a neighborhood that is well to do you will go to a school that is well to do that has a significant impact on future earnings. If you are born poor and disproportionately minorities are born poor you will go to a poor school that lacks the capacity to prepare you for life in any significant or meaningful way. And even the differences between race even when accounting for poverty is stark. Pretty much you know not because you just don’t want to know.
Maybe if this is teach in public schools across America the younger White American will grow up and have sympathy on the black community and do what’s right!
How about the Moms and Dads take some responsibility for the kids behavior. You seem to be blaming everybody but the parents and the child for their "acting out". I know the dad is not home and is in jail. How do some of the black speakers I see on youtube that come from single parent homes end up doing so well. You talk about everything except responsibility.
You’re not listening, are you? You cherry picked one thing, argued it from the feeblest angle, and completely ignored the rest of his point.
@@taylororion7604 Your ignorance is showing.
@@taylororion7604 You have no defense when someone calls you out on being responsible.
This comment right here shows the negative effects of the overselling of the myth of self agency to undereducated, anti-intellectual people.
You’re one of those people that think of someone is doing well then they’re not met with opposition. What if I told you they are successful DESPITE their opposition. You must have unchecked patriotism
The question is who built the houses that the majority of "White " low income population bought sold occupied and refused too acknowledge what they were becoming apart of?. However, much of the property commerce goods services established in the America's is proof that what they claimed as their right was in fact "criminal acts against humanity ". The misguided notions of the issue of slavery in America being defined through the lens of those who directly or indirectly participate in practices in the systematic institutionalization of racially motivated individuals. Every one wasn't isn't required too attend institutions designed for those who are give the opportunities for growth and development. However, there has been a progress report. However,now the assumption is theory and reality. Its no myth about racism.