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This was a fierce fighting ship. Disabled by a 12' from the Invincible who struck its engine room, she drifted between the two battle lines, targeted by multiple British battleships, she fought to the end with a sole gun in action. She foundered during the night. The author Gorch Fock found his fate that day. Respect to this old lady and her sons. RIP.
@@looseunit1615 no doubt.. I crabbed in the Bering Sea for 7 years and that scenario played through my mind ten thousand times.. I was never far from a door when I was inside. Was always planning how I was gonna get out if the boat even acted like it was gonna capsize.. bolted for the door more than a few times. I know I would be dead in short order if I went in the water without a survival suit but that would be nothing compared to going down in a dark , inverted boat trapped in an air pocket... worst nightmare imaginable
@@guaporeturns9472 A very terrifying way to go. I'd be trying to hold my breath which would only add to the suffering. At 16 I applied to join the navy. The funny thing is I stayed on land and joined the army instead.
Some of that damage could be from getting depth charged during WWII. Some wrecks would be mistaken for subs, especially if they were not marked on the charts correctly.
hipcat13 anti submarine warfare in ww2 was largely driven by asdic readings and visual sightings Wrecks on the bottom would not be easily detected as a uboat target
@@gibsondrummer I think you are probably correct - though the wreck of the Lusitania was apparently depth charged between the wars - ostensibly during practice drills. The notion that it happened as part of a cover up seems a bit far fetched to me (but I know nothing about diving technology & whether anyone could potentially investigate the wreck in those days).
Wiesbaden was simply shot to shit by an entire british battleline, so much so that all but ONE of her crew died before she ever sank. That said she evened the score and sank two british cruisers and damaged a battleship!
The size of those rimmed shells was impressive! I’ve of been tempted to grab a souvenir… Sea looked a bit rough but not too much current around the wreck? Awesome dive anyway.
Just a suggestion for your next video, don’t use red-colored text in the video. Aside from black, it’s the hardest color to read words from a video screen and assimilate meaning before the words disappear from the screen. White is better. Otherwise this is a magnificent video. Quite an accomplishment to explore one of the sunken Jutland combatants from all those years ago. Thank you for sharing the experience.
The cordite was normally stocked in linnen bags and as you see in the movie allready in the shells. The storage was the problem on all ships. They had a room with the cordite with a safety system to avoid explosions when they were hit. HMS Invinceble exploded when they were hit because their safty door wasn't closed.
Very intresting. I thought I was looking at shellss about half way through but was I ? The 'innards' didn't looked right, perhaps welding rods inside.Any ideas.
Hi when i was diving the Volnay I found a load of Cordite brought it up dried it out and set fire to it. It started to burn until I had to let it go and we watched it sink still burning. That was after it had been in the sea for 60 years.
I think so, we had SMS Pommern on our "to do" list and have been in the naberhood, but I didn't dive on it. SMS Pommern is broken in two pieces after two topedoes hit her. Some say Pommern was torpedoed by the British destroyer HMS Onslaught, others think it was HMS Obedient ( launched in 1916, an Admiralty M-class destroyer that served in World War I, and was sold in 1921). I don't remember the reason we dind't do the SMS Pommern.
@@EddyDeboeck thank you for the response . yes the Pommern was interesting as an old class of battleship that disappeared in the night without a single survivor . not talked about as much as the RN ships for obvious reasons but still a sad and fascinating moment in the battle ..best regards.
I've red a lot about WWI wrecks having the brass engine components being illegally salvaged. From what I could see of hull plates removed. It looks like the SMS Wiesbaden was the victim of one of these salvage operations
A lot of those wrecks are damaged and robbed in the chase after brass and copper. It's far from the shore so find out who's doing this is mostly a guess. We know some salvages hunters but proof that they did it is almost impossible. I think the bottom and hull plates from SMS Wiesbaden are gone by electrolyse of the revets, but that's also a guess... Thx for your feedback..
@@jamesmosley1549Hi James, well, I think that those plates are slipped down because the rivets were gone by electrolyse. But it's always possible someone toke them away, never underestimate what people do for old metals. Thx for your reaction.
The Brits are famous for their cold hearted pillaging of sunken U-boats around their pitiful little island. These are war graves with the crews still on board but that doesn't seem to slow the ghouls down any! If that is indeed the case here, who would be surprised?
I read that the German Navy removed her screws. Only 1 crew member escaped the ship. It’s always sad to see these knowing lives were lost on both sides.
This torpedo isn't exploded and isn't armed as far as we know. A torpedo has to be armed before launching. The explosives are still in there. So there is always a risk...
@@EddyDeboeck Ohh, I never knew a torpedo had to be armed! I always thought they'd explode on contact no matter what. Well, it sure is a pretty cool find nonetheless!
I hope they didn’t take anything from this wreck way to many divers like to take souvenirs from these wrecks even though their protected because their war graves
Not really related to the diving but I noticed dogs. Can anyone answer me this? Where do dogs go to the bathroom on a ship? Do they just shit and piss where they please ? And if so who cleans it up? The world may never know ...😂
Somebody needs to clean this mess up. It's not supposed to be there in the first place. All its doing is polluting the sea floor and killing wild life. Btw: all the crew's bones are already eaten by the crabs, so no need to call this a "War Grave".
@@ihavenoname3014 its sort of ironic to me that a land battle fields get picked up, de-mined, buldozed over and returned to agricultural life with some effort spent on finding and identifying the dead, but when there's a couple of feet of water involved, its a big deal and somehow impossible to do because you can't "disturbe the peace" of a "war grave". Admit it! You hate the sailors so much that you will deny them dry graves! Be honest!
@@notyou6950 You will not find anything of the dead, it has all disappeared. Only the remains of the ship and its contents are still there. Be sure if it were above the water those wrecks would have long disappeared. You know what is ironic, the metals from the rest of the German fleet, which was taken off the bottom in Scapa Flow, was sold back to Germany to recover war money. Those metals were used to make U boats for World War II. Beautiful circle!
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This was a fierce fighting ship. Disabled by a 12' from the Invincible who struck its engine room, she drifted between the two battle lines, targeted by multiple British battleships, she fought to the end with a sole gun in action. She foundered during the night. The author Gorch Fock found his fate that day. Respect to this old lady and her sons. RIP.
that's correct, she was on the wrong place on the wrong moment...
I couldn't imagine the terror of being stuck below decks as this ship sank.
@@looseunit1615 no doubt.. I crabbed in the Bering Sea for 7 years and that scenario played through my mind ten thousand times.. I was never far from a door when I was inside. Was always planning how I was gonna get out if the boat even acted like it was gonna capsize.. bolted for the door more than a few times. I know I would be dead in short order if I went in the water without a survival suit but that would be nothing compared to going down in a dark , inverted boat trapped in an air pocket... worst nightmare imaginable
@@guaporeturns9472 A very terrifying way to go. I'd be trying to hold my breath which would only add to the suffering.
At 16 I applied to join the navy. The funny thing is I stayed on land and joined the army instead.
@@looseunit1615 yeah , no easy way to face that fate. Well good thing neither of us had to deal with it. Be well
Beautifully compiled video.
That was a nice touch releasing the fish from the tangled net! Kudos!
great video ,esp' the diver releasing the trapped Pollock from the old fishing net , nice one
I was about to say the same thing. That part touched me the most.
Indeed. But isn't that a Haddock??
The futility of war....May they all rest in eternal peace.
2023 and with 2024 soon approaching we will get more more wars alas
Seeing those cordite strips in the casings is a sobering thought whilst diving
Yes, it is.
Amazing video Eddy, what an experience
Very nice pictures and music
nice video , esp' the diver releasing the trapped Pollack from the old fishing net , nice one
Bravo les gars pour cette magnifique vidéo je suis plongeur aussi quand je voie cette vidéo 😢 pluff
Some of that damage could be from getting depth charged during WWII. Some wrecks would be mistaken for subs, especially if they were not marked on the charts correctly.
That is a possibility, we will never really know...
@@EddyDeboeck One can always look at ships logs and combat reports and see if the locations are the same.
hipcat13 anti submarine warfare in ww2 was largely driven by asdic readings and visual sightings
Wrecks on the bottom would not be easily detected as a uboat target
@@gibsondrummer I think you are probably correct - though the wreck of the Lusitania was apparently depth charged between the wars - ostensibly during practice drills. The notion that it happened as part of a cover up seems a bit far fetched to me (but I know nothing about diving technology & whether anyone could potentially investigate the wreck in those days).
Wiesbaden was simply shot to shit by an entire british battleline, so much so that all but ONE of her crew died before she ever sank.
That said she evened the score and sank two british cruisers and damaged a battleship!
@6:30 cordite in ~6" ( 15cm ) shell casings … wow
Incredible photos
The size of those rimmed shells was impressive! I’ve of been tempted to grab a souvenir… Sea looked a bit rough but not too much current around the wreck? Awesome dive anyway.
Just a suggestion for your next video, don’t use red-colored text in the video. Aside from black, it’s the hardest color to read words from a video screen and assimilate meaning before the words disappear from the screen. White is better. Otherwise this is a magnificent video. Quite an accomplishment to explore one of the sunken Jutland combatants from all those years ago. Thank you for sharing the experience.
This would have been mediocre to excellent had there been some sort of narration as to what we are looking at.
Didn't finish.
The one ship was loaded to the gills with torpedoes and other shells! Im surprised when it got hit it didnt explode sky high!
Gives me goosebumps
Out of curiosity are those long tubes for storing the cordite?
The cordite was normally stocked in linnen bags and as you see in the movie allready in the shells. The storage was the problem on all ships. They had a room with the cordite with a safety system to avoid explosions when they were hit. HMS Invinceble exploded when they were hit because their safty door wasn't closed.
Looks like a very dangerous ship to visit about ready to fall apart at anytime
Depth?
dude is just casually swimming around high explosives
Very intresting. I thought I was looking at shellss about half way through but was I ? The 'innards' didn't looked right, perhaps welding rods inside.Any ideas.
The "welding rods" are Cordite, it gives the gas blast after the ignition of the powder. So those things are indeed bomb shells as you first tought.
Hi when i was diving the Volnay I found a load of Cordite brought it up dried it out and set fire to it. It started to burn until I had to let it go and we watched it sink still burning. That was after it had been in the sea for 60 years.
Yep, Cordite still works after you dry it.
@6.48 i believe they are 13.5" shells.
It's the Germans propellant, much like the British's Cordite.
Those wrecks are the final resting places for nearly 9,000 men between both sides.
has SMS Pommern ever been located or dived on?
I think so, we had SMS Pommern on our "to do" list and have been in the naberhood, but I didn't dive on it. SMS Pommern is broken in two pieces after two topedoes hit her. Some say Pommern was torpedoed by the British destroyer HMS Onslaught, others think it was HMS Obedient ( launched in 1916, an Admiralty M-class destroyer that served in World War I, and was sold in 1921). I don't remember the reason we dind't do the SMS Pommern.
@@EddyDeboeck thank you for the response . yes the Pommern was interesting as an old class of battleship that disappeared in the night without a single survivor . not talked about as much as the RN ships for obvious reasons but still a sad and fascinating moment in the battle ..best regards.
Is it a troopship or a battleship
light cruiser. 6 inch guns
Awesome 😎
Bellissimo.bravi, davvero spettacolare
Who did the music for the video?🤔
Hans Zimmer
@@EddyDeboeck thanks,I wondered if hand does music for other videos.
The grave of Rudolf Kinau "Gorch Fock" and a lot of other brave men!
Sorry, have to make a correction: „Gorch Fock“ was the Pseudonyme for Johann Kienau. Rudolf was his brother, also a Writer, died 1975 in Hamburg.
@@sigurdilek8525
Yes, you're right. Was my mistake!
Thank you for the correction! 👍👍👍
What music is this?? Where to find it??
hans zimmer - interstellar
I've red a lot about WWI wrecks having the brass engine components being illegally salvaged. From what I could see of hull plates removed. It looks like the SMS Wiesbaden was the victim of one of these salvage operations
A lot of those wrecks are damaged and robbed in the chase after brass and copper. It's far from the shore so find out who's doing this is mostly a guess. We know some salvages hunters but proof that they did it is almost impossible. I think the bottom and hull plates from SMS Wiesbaden are gone by electrolyse of the revets, but that's also a guess... Thx for your feedback..
That must be such a large operation salvaging components like that. Is it done for historic reasons or for scrap do you think?
@@jamesmosley1549Hi James, well, I think that those plates are slipped down because the rivets were gone by electrolyse. But it's always possible someone toke them away, never underestimate what people do for old metals. Thx for your reaction.
The Brits are famous for their cold hearted pillaging of sunken U-boats around their pitiful little island. These are war graves with the crews still on board but that doesn't seem to slow the ghouls down any! If that is indeed the case here, who would be surprised?
I read that the German Navy removed her screws. Only 1 crew member escaped the ship. It’s always sad to see these knowing lives were lost on both sides.
Awesome
thanks!
5:46 A little bit late, but isn't this torpedo possibly a big risk?
It doesn't seem to be exploded to me so maybe?
This torpedo isn't exploded and isn't armed as far as we know. A torpedo has to be armed before launching. The explosives are still in there. So there is always a risk...
@@EddyDeboeck Ohh, I never knew a torpedo had to be armed! I always thought they'd explode on contact no matter what. Well, it sure is a pretty cool find nonetheless!
Light cruiser
Ok it’s a cruiser
Nice
Cordite would still burn 👍🏻
How deep?
As you can see in the movie at 2:57 the SMS Wiesbaden lays at -51m depth. Most of the wrecks in that aria are between -40m and -55m.
Eddy Deboeck way cool thanks!
So calm down there.
I hope they didn’t take anything from this wreck way to many divers like to take souvenirs from these wrecks even though their protected because their war graves
Such a waste. Lives, resources, everything. And all anyone has to show for it are piles of rusting junk on the seabed.
What a waste of labor and material wealth just to kill somebody out of greed and avarice!
Narration would be nice. Horrid over the top music.
Not really related to the diving but I noticed dogs. Can anyone answer me this? Where do dogs go to the bathroom on a ship? Do they just shit and piss where they please ? And if so who cleans it up? The world may never know ...😂
They are sea dogs.
The music does not fit in at all
I think it fits perfectly.
@@Chris-hq7nl I think too
Was that gentleman trying to molest a seagull? That's pretty messed up
Somebody needs to clean this mess up. It's not supposed to be there in the first place. All its doing is polluting the sea floor and killing wild life.
Btw: all the crew's bones are already eaten by the crabs, so no need to call this a "War Grave".
Somebody to clean up? But Not You?...
It's historically important you waste of breath.
@@EddyDeboeck Sure, I'll get right on it. Promise me you'll keep the EU off my back while I haul all the scrap to the smelter.
@@ihavenoname3014 its sort of ironic to me that a land battle fields get picked up, de-mined, buldozed over and returned to agricultural life with some effort spent on finding and identifying the dead, but when there's a couple of feet of water involved, its a big deal and somehow impossible to do because you can't "disturbe the peace" of a "war grave". Admit it! You hate the sailors so much that you will deny them dry graves! Be honest!
@@notyou6950 You will not find anything of the dead, it has all disappeared. Only the remains of the ship and its contents are still there. Be sure if it were above the water those wrecks would have long disappeared. You know what is ironic, the metals from the rest of the German fleet, which was taken off the bottom in Scapa Flow, was sold back to Germany to recover war money. Those metals were used to make U boats for World War II. Beautiful circle!
51 meters ? It's so shallow there??