The Greatest Forgotten Chess Puzzle

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  • @MessLeadingProgramming
    @MessLeadingProgramming 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1779

    Lesson to learn - if you have one pawn ready to become a queen, don’t wait for 2 more.

    • @triangle200
      @triangle200 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Fr

    • @HarleyMaebry
      @HarleyMaebry 2 ปีที่แล้ว +98

      Except in situations where getting the queen isn’t possible or would be a bad move for whatever reason. Chess is a crazy game.

    • @pork43
      @pork43 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@HarleyMaebry yeah but usually u only need 2
      3 is very unlikely

    • @pinkigamer3534
      @pinkigamer3534 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Me: pushing the side pawns
      Me: getting a queen 😎
      Me: getting checkmated right after

    • @mofeiyang4587
      @mofeiyang4587 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      uhhh

  • @R.a.t.t.y
    @R.a.t.t.y 2 ปีที่แล้ว +934

    That basically combines every weird rule in chess into one puzzle, ie
    - double pawn first move
    - En passant
    - Castling
    - Promotion and under promotion

    • @rosiefay7283
      @rosiefay7283 2 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      Well spotted. The combo of en passant capture, castling and underpromotion is known as the Valladao theme.

    • @sgtnubbings6501
      @sgtnubbings6501 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Castling with check, no less.

    • @karyoplasma
      @karyoplasma 2 ปีที่แล้ว +92

      Frankly, castling wasn't even on my mind. Maybe because it's so late in the game and I assume that both sides somehow lost their castling rights that far in lol

    • @drewharrison6433
      @drewharrison6433 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      From what we see here, how is anyone supposed to just know that castling is possible? How do we know that the king and rook haven't moved?

    • @fangzhang9376
      @fangzhang9376 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@drewharrison6433 It's actually a chess puzzle convention to assume that castling is possible by default, unless it can be proven that it's impossible. Makes things more interesting this way.

  • @張謙-n3l
    @張謙-n3l 2 ปีที่แล้ว +206

    I love the thing that the bishop at c8 is just chilling and watching his king and pawns fight for the king's life

  • @m7mdkady144
    @m7mdkady144 2 ปีที่แล้ว +185

    The real puzzle is how the king and the other rook didn't move while three pawns made their way into the second rank

    • @ButcherParry
      @ButcherParry ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Sanest chess puzzle setup:

    • @ravirajmayapur
      @ravirajmayapur ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol

    • @sandal_thong
      @sandal_thong ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was just thinking that! I guess puzzles are made-up and never part of a real game.

    • @superyoshiparker8979
      @superyoshiparker8979 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I know I’m super late, I actually thought that the king had moved before and didn’t think about it.

  • @fisyr
    @fisyr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +569

    These puzzles where you have to randomly castle are really wierd. How could I have known, this was still an option?

    • @meron7700
      @meron7700 2 ปีที่แล้ว +147

      In puzzles you always have to assume you can castle. If it is not allowed, it will be specified.

    • @СергейКлочков-ф4у
      @СергейКлочков-ф4у 2 ปีที่แล้ว +115

      According to the rules of chess composition, if both the king and the rook are on the starting squares, castling is possible unless it can be proven that the position could not arise from the normal starting position without king and/or rooks moving.

    • @dimitriskontoleon6787
      @dimitriskontoleon6787 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      General speaking if King and Rock was on starting possision on puzzle O-O or O-O-O was playable

    • @HarleyMaebry
      @HarleyMaebry 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Same goes for en passant; if the configuration is correct with no other information, assume it’s possible.

    • @FlourescentPotato
      @FlourescentPotato 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Yeah, this type of puzzle is to make people feel smart, more than to learn anything. as soon as i saw underpromotion i rolled my eyes.

  • @general_alexus2533
    @general_alexus2533 2 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    The castle move is hard to spot because it is not even clear that casteling is still alowed, in a position this late in the game the king or rook most probably moved at some point (and end up at starting squares) making casteling ileagal.

    • @nomms
      @nomms 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      In Chess puzzles it's always allowed if the king and the castle are on their starting squares.

    • @paul_warner
      @paul_warner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      This is a puzzle, not a position in the middle of a game

    • @JMZReview
      @JMZReview 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nomms that's not true?

    • @pyology9280
      @pyology9280 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ileagal

    • @nomms
      @nomms 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@JMZReview That is the case, unless specified in the puzzle.

  • @LaVieDeReine86
    @LaVieDeReine86 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    "Imma castle with no pawns on the 2nd rank, in the end game, on move 30-something." Utter madness lol.

  • @ralkadde
    @ralkadde 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Great find! This is the so-called Valladão Task, a problem showing promotion, en passant capture and castling. The underpromotion to a knight is a bonus. Btw., I have not found this problem in the known problem databases. Probably someone else will have more luck.

  • @JohnDoe-ti2np
    @JohnDoe-ti2np 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    A Google search says that this problem was composed by Yochanan Afek in 2011. I don't think that TH-cam will allow me to post a link, but try searching for the ARVES chess endgames study association.

  • @dustinbachstein
    @dustinbachstein 2 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Actually this puzzle shows the so-called "Valladao-Task": an en-passant capture, castling and pawn promotions in the same chess puzzle :)

    • @nevermind994
      @nevermind994 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      please help me reach out to nelson by liking my comment you will find it, because at 5:20, its a draw, you can run it on stockfish, i just randomly saw it, and put it in stockfish, and i want nelson to know so please help

    • @bdogpimpsause
      @bdogpimpsause 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@nevermind994 who cares if that position is a draw?? White has a winning position, it doesn’t matter if there is a draw somewhere else

    • @Brainrotteddd
      @Brainrotteddd 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bdogpimpsause bro its a month old comment why reply?

    • @theworldexplained8253
      @theworldexplained8253 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bdogpimpsause Stockfish is infamous for ruining chess puzzles.

  • @chicken_rice0123
    @chicken_rice0123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The purpose of the bishop on c8 is to prevent quicker checkmates that include Rf5

  • @luuduonghy659
    @luuduonghy659 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    At 8:11 the checkmate could still be delayed
    If the black king move to Kh4 the white queen can try to move Qh6 for check
    Black queen can blocked Qh5 but the bishop for white will checkmated at Bf5#

  • @foxtrothermite6499
    @foxtrothermite6499 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I knew that as soon as I saw the white king and rook's position in the thumbnail, that there was going to be a hidden castling move here

  • @rpc717
    @rpc717 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great composition! It has all of the little tricks that make a puzzle interesting.

  • @emphyriohazzl1510
    @emphyriohazzl1510 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Study by Yochanan Afek from 2011 (a famous israelien chess study composer and also IM as a chess player). He received 3rd commendation for this Valladao theme study (but in his carreer he often got first prizes in many tournaments).

  • @rosiefay7283
    @rosiefay7283 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Just to clarify: it's a convention in chess problems that castling is valid unless you can prove it isn't. The convention is made that way round, because, otherwise, problems wouldn't be able to involve castling, because you can't *prove* that castling is valid.
    In some problems it looks as if black may castle, but something about the position means you can prove that black has lost the right to castle, so white may do something which works, but would fail against castling.

  • @sushantmondal
    @sushantmondal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Your lessons are the best on TH-cam.

  • @boroditsky
    @boroditsky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I feel like the castling was a bit of a cheat, as it seems unlikely that castling would still be possible this late in a game.

  • @rishirajbaul3727
    @rishirajbaul3727 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As @TeaInTheMorning4929 pointed out earlier, it is not clear that castling is possible. I have seen puzzles where the king and a rook were on their starting squares with solutions which hinged on proving the fact that castling was not possible. Accordingly, does it not make sense to provide a proof game for the given position to show that this position (with castling allowed) is feasible?

  • @elwoogie1963
    @elwoogie1963 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Hard to plan a move if castling is unknown to be available this late in a game.

    • @thatonerandomstick3664
      @thatonerandomstick3664 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In puzzles if king and rook are on starting squares it’s always available unless specified

  • @kidink5307
    @kidink5307 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Anyone else thinking that there is no way that king and rook hasnt move this whole game to even think that castling was an option

  • @RJSRdg
    @RJSRdg ปีที่แล้ว +2

    En passant, castling, and underpromotion! Love it!

  • @omaraziz5564
    @omaraziz5564 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    en passant is the most obscure move in chess, yet it makes this puzzle so much harder...

  • @nevermind994
    @nevermind994 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    if you played bg6 at 5:20 black would be forced to take the bishop with the queen and afterwards rxg5 if you make a queen it doesnt help because i will play f8=q+ and i think that is loosing for black. and if bg6 qxg6 rxg6 and kxg6 i think h4+ and maybe h4 is not needed because we can promote to a queen ultimately drawing the position

    • @nevermind994
      @nevermind994 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      i actually now ran it on stockfish and its a draw

    • @mr.mystery6429
      @mr.mystery6429 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah that is why he needed to play bg5+ before and win

  • @williamp6483
    @williamp6483 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thought I was clever for seeing the pawn to g4 forcing en passant but I missed the castle check and never would have gotten the rest of the puzzle lol. Great but very complex

  • @TheSiriusEnigma
    @TheSiriusEnigma 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    You didn’t forget the “en passant” rule. Pawn to G4. F4 takes G4 by moving to G3. I was very surprised when I learned that rule.

    • @Soulessnight4
      @Soulessnight4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Problem though, unless it’s literally the only move you can make en passant is an illegal move to get out of check

    • @hyzercreek
      @hyzercreek ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Soulessnight4 False, you can make an en passant to get out of check

  • @MUKE741
    @MUKE741 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    7:58 Queen to H4 and checkmate with rook

    • @MUKE741
      @MUKE741 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It is better

    • @superyoshiparker8979
      @superyoshiparker8979 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MUKE741uhhhh, the queen is unprotected, black can just take and now you’re losing

  • @colinmccarty9908
    @colinmccarty9908 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    At 6:21 I’d like to explore the black pawn moving to G1 and becoming queen instead of taking the bishop. I’m sure it’s clear but my mind can’t work that far ahead.

    • @dotwiroh4234
      @dotwiroh4234 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      g1?

    • @dotwiroh4234
      @dotwiroh4234 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      if you meant b1 then white pawn just promotes to queen and black cant do anything to stop white next move, laddermate

    • @Crimsonfireball
      @Crimsonfireball ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dotwiroh4234 There is another move it's called queen to b6.

    • @dotwiroh4234
      @dotwiroh4234 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Crimsonfireball huh? comment above wanted pawn b1, promote to queen so white just goes f8 to promote their own queen and u want qb6 so white just go qh8 check? how does that help?

    • @Crimsonfireball
      @Crimsonfireball ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dotwiroh4234 qb6 is check to white king so the white queen can't check on h8. Or am I missing something here?

  • @nolifeconsolegamer
    @nolifeconsolegamer ปีที่แล้ว

    1:32 my guess is which should castle to get the rook in like to attack any potential queens.
    1:36 en passant... don't need to move the king. Moving the king is a blunder here

  • @KINGCROW54
    @KINGCROW54 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The purple is wrong
    6:20 we can just promote the pawn by pushing it

  • @wernerviehhauser94
    @wernerviehhauser94 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Ah. Hidden castling. I hate those, since you can‘t know if the move is legal.

    • @egillis214
      @egillis214 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This

  • @paul_warner
    @paul_warner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The castle was the first thing I spotted, it would've been my first move if I were working through this puzzle myself

  • @williamsmith8640
    @williamsmith8640 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The Greatest Forgotten Chess Puzzle speaks for itself

  • @wyattmeche2378
    @wyattmeche2378 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pretty sure I found the solution from the picture
    Push pawn, opponent queens , you move king, opponent takes rook, you queen mate, but they will probably defend the promotion with the queen

  • @EvansGambitAtomicZangi
    @EvansGambitAtomicZangi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The king side castle is dirty. Because, we don't know if it's still available.

  • @ErmisSouldatos
    @ErmisSouldatos 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "En passant is always forced"
    ~Magnus Carlsen~

  • @wexdust
    @wexdust 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    7:24 , black moves queen to F2, forcing the trade and ultimately wins? Edit: It leads to situation where you have to choose between eating bishop or a pawn with the king, if you eat bishop you will lose and if you eat pawn it leads to draw.

    • @vdun
      @vdun 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How will black ultimately win? If qf2, white queen takes on f2, pawn takes, king takes and now black has 1 bishop and 1 pawn versus white’s bishop, pawn and rook

    • @wexdust
      @wexdust 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vdun Yes well that is the thing, after king takes black rook will take the pawn, this leads to draw!

    • @vdun
      @vdun 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@wexdust How will it lead to a draw? White is up a full rook

    • @wexdust
      @wexdust 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vdun I wrote that wrong l wanted to say that black bishop will take the pawn if you take black pawn with the king. However l find the move with the rook, it releases black king unfortunately but it lets you eat black 'would be' queen. This leads to semi king and pawn end game except white pawn cannot promote, it's tricky to get the win but at the end that pawn you made sure survives pins black king and you sacrifice the rook in order to do checkmate.

    • @mehxd1645
      @mehxd1645 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm a bit confused since you said if black queen goes to F2 it would ultimately force a trade but white would still win since its up a rook and when does taking bishop or the pawn come up from?

  • @wmbriggz
    @wmbriggz ปีที่แล้ว

    This 76 year old remembers my favorite puzzle where both kings were almost totally locked into their respective back two ranks and the drawing side had to “ match” squares with the side trying to win…. I loved that long lost puzzle.

  • @manikasstudio6836
    @manikasstudio6836 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:11 (pause and think) A2 Pawn promotes to queen. if you promote your g7 pawn to queen or anything else then black can win because you cant put him in check without saving your king, he can move his queen to a7 delivering a check and if you block with your rook to F2 he can eat the rook with the queen and checkmate you, if you move your king to h1 its checkmate with the bishop to B7 (black wins by checkmate) also if white blocks then queen check with his bishop to E3 then black can simply take the bishop and still checkmate white

  • @tiagohello
    @tiagohello 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the amazing video!

  • @stevenhoog1
    @stevenhoog1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i didn't know castling was an option.

  • @ramamoorthysankarappan9297
    @ramamoorthysankarappan9297 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nelson really found a good study

  • @LordMephilis
    @LordMephilis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Pretty good puzzle, like that it uses enpassant, which I have never been able to use in an actual game XD

  • @hiwu412
    @hiwu412 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tip for doing puzzles: A check is usually the answer

  • @centauria9122
    @centauria9122 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The black bishop could take that pawn, then in line of sight to take out the rook, so the rook would have to move, unless you want to sacrifice your rook, or try to keep black's king in check.

    • @matperry18
      @matperry18 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I saw that as well, I don’t understand how he stops the video in that position, game’s not over at all.

    • @dany-marchocke9036
      @dany-marchocke9036 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mate in two

  • @centauria9122
    @centauria9122 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Black's bishop: 🍿

  • @BobChess
    @BobChess 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In this puzzle, It is very good exam that king safety is the most important. Despite has three extra pawn nearly promote, black lose. Fascinating!

  • @kdevelopergw
    @kdevelopergw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I actually thought about Qc1 usntead of Bc1 to trade and maybe bishop & rook vs bishop is winning since they're on opposite squares? I guess not though

  • @BRORIGIN
    @BRORIGIN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love these types of videos!

  • @nwstraith
    @nwstraith 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's rather cheesy since it's hard to imagine the king has never moved with that kind of carnage on the board.

  • @TerjeMathisen
    @TerjeMathisen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Since it initially looked impossible, I realized that there had to be a castling move to gain tempo while protecting the king. :-)

    • @DanielRocha-rn6ii
      @DanielRocha-rn6ii 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He didn't mention that the king could castle, that information is crucial and he left it out.

    • @SG2048-meta
      @SG2048-meta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@DanielRocha-rn6ii in chess puzzles it is always assumed you can castle unless you obviously can’t or it is specified that you can’t castle

    • @TerjeMathisen
      @TerjeMathisen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DanielRocha-rn6ii I agree 100%, it was just by a process of elimination I decided that it would be impossible without castling.

    • @BigDBrian
      @BigDBrian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DanielRocha-rn6ii He also didn't mention that it wasn't possible. If it were said, it'd give away a crucial move and spoil part of the puzzle.

  • @mr.darkrio1017
    @mr.darkrio1017 ปีที่แล้ว

    Black and play a draw position at 7:24mins in. Queen to f2. it forces a trade of queens. the line goes white queen f2, pawn f2, king f2, bishop f3.

    • @mr.mystery6429
      @mr.mystery6429 ปีที่แล้ว

      Neither bishop can go to f3

    • @mr.mystery6429
      @mr.mystery6429 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even after check, then the queen is hanging without the pawn.

  • @squidja2271
    @squidja2271 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:12 if you look carefully there's that black bishop that can take down the white pawn then threatening the white rook forcing it to move it's position where it's unguarded by the queen. Then black pawn to a1 forcing the rook to take it down and black getting another queen using the b2 black pawn to take down the rook and getting promoted then forking the rook and check matting the white king without yet getting the pawn promoted to a queen forcing the king to move then black queen taking down the rook and threatening the pawn from promoting

    • @squidja2271
      @squidja2271 ปีที่แล้ว

      And white ultimately lose to game

    • @tykemorris
      @tykemorris ปีที่แล้ว

      He didn't talk about that option but I think I would go ahead and queen my pawn anyway and risk losing my rook. If Bishop takes the pawn, then white Pf8 becomes a queen. Then black Bf1 captures the hanging rook but black is always in check after that and never promotes a pawn. White Qf7 check. Black Kg4. White Bc1 discovered check. If Black Kh3 then White Qh5 checkmate. If Black Kh4 then White Qf4 check, forcing black Kh3 then
      White Qg4 checkmate.
      Black did not have 2 moves to spend just getting a rook that wasn't needed for checkmate anyway.

  • @mottystone3547
    @mottystone3547 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What's the problem with castling first and then playing g4?

  • @stevek2340
    @stevek2340 ปีที่แล้ว

    Underpromoting to a knight is subtle - and brilliant!

  • @yigalzemach9083
    @yigalzemach9083 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I started with 0-0 as the 1st move, and I still do not see why it does not win. White threatens mate in 3 (g4+, Rh7+, Bg5X), and it seems that after 1....Kg6 2.g4 we are back to the propsded solution (B:g4 does not help). So the interesting defense is 1....f3 2. R:f3+ Kg6 3. Rg3+ Kf5 (3.... Kg6 4. Bg5+ and mates) 4. Rg5+! Kf4 (4....K:f6 5.R5-g7+ Kf5 6. g4+ Kf4 7. Rg-f7+ Bf5 8.R:f5X) 5.f7! letting black to promote 2 queens, but it looks like they can't help, like 5.... c1-Q+ 6.Kh2 b1-Q 7. g3+ Kf3 8. f8-Q+ Bf5 9: R:f5+ with mate, or 5....b1-Q+ 6.Kh2 Qg1+ 7.K:g1a1-Q+ 8.Kh2 Qh8 9.Rg8 and wins.
    So it looks like the solution is not really unique. Or did I miss something?

    • @nevermind994
      @nevermind994 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      please help me reach out to nelson by liking my comment you will find it, because at 5:20, its a draw, you can run it on stockfish, i just randomly saw it, and put it in stockfish, and i want nelson to know so please help btw thanks for recap

    • @mr.mystery6429
      @mr.mystery6429 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nevermind994 its a draw because white had misplayed, nelson shows that the bishop check is needed.

    • @mr.mystery6429
      @mr.mystery6429 ปีที่แล้ว

      Castling first would lose to Be6 and the king would run to e5 and escape.

  • @muggs105
    @muggs105 ปีที่แล้ว

    Move the white peon two spaces up, you check the king, so has to move from f5 to g6, move tower in front of king g7, only place left to move for the king is h6. Peon that moved two spaces finished the deal

  • @longyiuchen1837
    @longyiuchen1837 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I knew it should become a knight at first glance!

  • @person-ol5uf
    @person-ol5uf 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks!

    • @ChessVibesOfficial
      @ChessVibesOfficial  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks, person!

    • @person-ol5uf
      @person-ol5uf 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChessVibesOfficial wait I'm actually so confused I don't have any memory of writing this comment like I remember looking at this vid in the gym then putting my phone in my pocket but I don't think I ever wrote thanks

  • @MrTanki4
    @MrTanki4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At 3:00 how do we know if rook or the king didn't move and we can castle?

    • @Small_Schlonng_9000
      @Small_Schlonng_9000 ปีที่แล้ว

      We don’t

    • @exituriam
      @exituriam 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In puzzles you can always castle unless checked or unable to

  • @arekkrolak6320
    @arekkrolak6320 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How do you know castling is allowed?

  • @devyishere1
    @devyishere1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thing is, if I was white in that position, I would’ve already assumed that I couldn’t castle.

  • @Poochyvert
    @Poochyvert 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6:20 what happens if black pushes the pawn instead of taking the bishop ?

    • @mr.mystery6429
      @mr.mystery6429 ปีที่แล้ว

      The i guess rook to g5 check, and then f8 queen and h8 would be check mate, checks can be blocked by rook c5 protected by the queen.

  • @Victor_Gabriele
    @Victor_Gabriele 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OMG THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I SAW EVERY BEST MOVE ON A TRICK PUZZLE ON THIS CHANNEL
    * _ *

  • @Hysterr
    @Hysterr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I swear I've seen this one too but couldn't tell you where sadly

    • @hebercluff1665
      @hebercluff1665 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're part of the reason this is a forgotten puzzle........

  • @TasinDotPlay
    @TasinDotPlay ปีที่แล้ว

    7:24 has Qc2 forcing queen trade...but still winnable with bishop and rook....

  • @cosmic_nrg
    @cosmic_nrg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    NGL this is the first time I've seen An pasant in action. I've only just heard of it

  • @fantomghost6213
    @fantomghost6213 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did not see this one. Got distracted by the pawns and tried to figure out how to stop them...Lol

  • @SamuelPearlman
    @SamuelPearlman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice one! As long as you can't find who made this puzzle ... it was me!

  • @battleclover9537
    @battleclover9537 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always an unfair puzzle when you have to assume that castle is an option

  • @mittalrobin
    @mittalrobin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 6:21 instead of taking bishop what if the pawn promote to queen and in next move another queen..does black have chance

    • @mehxd1645
      @mehxd1645 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Qh8 if your wasting 2 moves to get 2 queens

  • @JustQuri
    @JustQuri 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:27 I think Rxb7 is better as if Qxb7 will be repealed by Qf3 +

  • @thiscringyenglishmaybeinte8114
    @thiscringyenglishmaybeinte8114 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Black be like: Let promote! PLS LET ME WIN!

  • @LudosErgoSum
    @LudosErgoSum 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It was unclear that castling was available because it wasn't stated whether King and Rook had moved.

  • @beag4me886
    @beag4me886 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:37 Isn't it best for black to make a queen from the a2 pawn instead of the b2 pawn. Cuz right now white can play rook to a7. Which attacks the pawn. If black takes our queen then we take his queen with the king and then the pawn is being attacked by the rook. HOWEVER. If black promotes the a2 pawn then the square in which white has to move his rook is being protected by the bishop on c3.

    • @mr.mystery6429
      @mr.mystery6429 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, b1 to queen is right theres bishop takes a6, idk about a1 though

    • @mr.mystery6429
      @mr.mystery6429 ปีที่แล้ว

      And a1 queen also works

  • @ricefarmer7564
    @ricefarmer7564 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    on 6:34 what if the queen check the king and a follow up with their bishop?

  • @AirNorthOne
    @AirNorthOne ปีที่แล้ว

    Wasnt aware the king hasnt move to allow castling.

  • @calvinkerr2198
    @calvinkerr2198 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 7:03 isn’t queen to e2 check blacks bishop blocks pawn takes into checkmate?

    • @bdogpimpsause
      @bdogpimpsause 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Queen can’t move to e2, it’s blocking the black queen from check

  • @mehrdadrahaaei3068
    @mehrdadrahaaei3068 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    After one year! I just saw the video.😉
    What about Bishop move to C1 @ 6:00
    I

  • @sangeetasonar3937
    @sangeetasonar3937 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You can move 2 to the white paida Or soldier

  • @EntityVsEntityInteractions
    @EntityVsEntityInteractions 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    5:10 another reason why we don't go f7 is because we get Kxg7 as an in-between move before promoting on the first rank.

    • @mr.mystery6429
      @mr.mystery6429 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well then the promotion to queen comes with check

    • @mr.mystery6429
      @mr.mystery6429 ปีที่แล้ว

      Then its just mate

  • @barrygeistwhite3474
    @barrygeistwhite3474 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If I'm not even registering the moves where he's like "You might be tempted to do this..." does that mean I'm getting better at these or do I just have a different problem now? lol

  • @futurethinking
    @futurethinking ปีที่แล้ว

    There is a much easier solution, Rock to f5 while bishop is in g5 and king in h5 is the key, you don't need to castle in that position.

  • @sharifullahzakaria8829
    @sharifullahzakaria8829 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I finally got one of these puzzles right!!!

  • @ounalan
    @ounalan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    g4+ was the pretty obvious 1st move (only move, w/o much thinking actually.) 0-0 was a bit tricky, as we didn't know if it was still an option at such a late point in the game. Once 0-0 was allowed, rest was also pretty obvious, as all moves are more or less forced.

    • @samuelandry4348
      @samuelandry4348 ปีที่แล้ว

      I first thought about 0-0 as 1st move and afterwards g4+. It works well if black goes directly for a queen, so the only defence against it might be f3.

  • @noorali-li5iw
    @noorali-li5iw 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In the minute 6:20 what if we just pushed the pawn to b1 ?

    • @yoowee2056
      @yoowee2056 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes same thought

    • @mr.mystery6429
      @mr.mystery6429 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yoowee2056 I plugged it into stock fish it said rook g5 check, and make a queen, Qb7+ and rook c5 to block, then it is mate

  • @dixie1993
    @dixie1993 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the cadtling idea but its hard to know if it isnt stated that the king has never moved

  • @carolinejoybarnhart3717
    @carolinejoybarnhart3717 ปีที่แล้ว

    If castling is available in what's approaching an endgame, it should be stated up front.

  • @inneedofmedication
    @inneedofmedication 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What I don't like about the castling situation in a puzzle is you're assuming up to that point in the game the king hasn't been in check already, either of those 2 pieces has moved or castled already. It's a late game situation, so chances are one of those 3 situations probably has happened.

  • @derekbaldy4293
    @derekbaldy4293 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like this dude because he every possible move

  • @cjhf4152
    @cjhf4152 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:20 not take the bishop and just move the pawn to b2?

  • @patpatpatzi7089
    @patpatpatzi7089 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gonna remember this when i get to this position

  • @David_Crayford
    @David_Crayford ปีที่แล้ว

    I too completely missed the castle. It might help if you saw the game from the beginning, but OTOH you might get distracted by other possible moves.

  • @eneatafa4960
    @eneatafa4960 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 6:20 what if black playes b1 queen

  • @ancient7716
    @ancient7716 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I saw correctly until castles part which seemed funny at such an endgame scenario

  • @ilet3049
    @ilet3049 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yea, thought about this for like 15 minutes and never considered castling was still legal

  • @jesusparr17424
    @jesusparr17424 ปีที่แล้ว

    But hey, you could make another queen on c1 and maintain the New queen under defensive due to the queen on a3, putting almost in check to the king besides the white queen, now than she can't move to another place, would be a trade of queens leaving the white without queen while the black still have one.

  • @sharpasacueball
    @sharpasacueball 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow there are so many rules I didn't even know about

  • @michaelmamba1578
    @michaelmamba1578 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m getting better at these. I actually called most of these moves

  • @QuentinStephens
    @QuentinStephens ปีที่แล้ว

    At 6:18 what about b2b1=Q