The worst thing than being lonely is being married to the wrong person I would rather be lonely and fill it up with my own happiness in my own good friends than to be married with an Narc. Did you know it's well-known documented that if you married the wrong person it shortens your life by about one-third wow isn't that crazy
Silence is the best weapon against narcissism. Information is ammunition for the narcissist, by continously replying and talking to a narcissist you give them ammunition. Silence makes them malfunction.
The best weapon again a narcissist is to once you identify that you are dealing with one (and this is the most difficult part ...it's like finding what is making you sick ,once you know what you are dealing with you get empowered to start making changes, everything start making sense) pack your bags and live without warning and never look back .
I left my husband after 44 years. New friends I have made do not understand what he was like and I couldn't explain. After seeing this video I feel vindicated and can now explain what a NPD does to a person without laying a hand on them.
I’m so sorry, but so glad you are out. I got a divorce after 32 years. It was personality disorder throughout the family. My husband would see and hear his siblings being rude or lying and he would believe them over me.....the last year of my own realization, I found he would hug his sisters, but never touched, hugged or kissed me....thank God for strength to get out. Blessings be yours, I hope you can love yourself now and find a new chapter in your life💕
Family would be sitting at dinner table and time after time my mother would waltz in and announce I would be schizophrenics before she would because it skips generations. Needless to say my grandmother was manicdepressive. But she called her schizophrenics. My mother was a narc to the core spoiled by her father
My boundaries came naturally with healing even still in the relationship. He was unable to get his fix even though my body was still there. He left. No contact a consequence without drama.
In my experience with narcissists they know they have no self esteem but their ego will not let them experience insecurity. And them insulting people isn't necessarily true. In fact the narcissists I knew will call someone ugly when they weren't ugly...call them fat when they weren't. It's like they invent flaws.
It took half my life to realize I was a victim, enabler and now a survivor of 3 extreme pathological narcissists. One after the other. From Childhood into Adulthood into Motherhood. I'm a magnet to narcissists because of my own naivety, wounds and patterns. It has nearly destroyed me a few times...but lucky for me ...I am a warrior. Now, my Narsism radar is getting stronger every day, I have a lot of compassion for them but iron fast boundaries. They are charming, magnetic and talented. Every bad thing that's ever happened to them is someone else's fault. It's always the other person that is crazy, the ex that was pshyco, and they remain looking quite innocent. They get cold or angry when called out and attack when being held accountable. They always turn it around so you crazy or wrong for bringing the issue up. They are always boosting themselves up and putting others down. Always looking for roles where they are the best. They orchestrate scenarios to be the one praised. Sometimes the most subtle of ways. They seem so loving, giving, kind ... and the deception begins. You'll find they try and divide people from different parts or stages in their lives rather than bring them together which might result in their cover being blown. Divide to conquer. When you're eyes are open you can't un-see. When the soul spies the danger it can not rest. No one will believe you. To fight it is to cause more harm because these guys will stop at nothing to save face. Do not beg, do not run but rather...raise your head and gracefully walk away. You may be wounded but you have already won by having a life free-er from them.
The narcissist in my life was able to recall every traumatizing event in their life. Even from childhood. They want to be the victim and I think that is one way to pull in empathizers into their game.
mariel campos I agree who hasn’t had some type of trauma or neglect in their childhood I think they use it as an excuse andthey don’t give a damn about trying to get help It’s always someone else’s fault
Wow you commentators are so smart (since you know for sure every thing and every reason for everyone else's behavior I don't know why your hanging around and hanging on to a.ross Rosenberg awesome evaluation of narccisitic core shame and reason albeit dysfunction
@@dawnanderson4967 But remember you did not make them the creatures they are. You do not deserve their abuse. No-one does. Keep away from them. I do not care that they didn't do it to themselves. No-one deserves their abuse.
I was in part-time therapy for 16 years. My therapist once asked my parents to come & do 6 sessions so he could help them better understand me. My narcissistic father said, "No, I don't need a professional to tell me about my daughter. I know her [he did not]." My mother, who was afraid of him, agreed & said No. I never had a chance at reconciliation because my father was so invested in his view of me & would not let a professional educate him. I was a Bad Daughter & a Disappointment to him until his death because his narcissism would allow nothing else. Narcissism is extremely damaging to the people around them. Please don't give people false hope that a narcissist can be cured.
Xander Taylor thanks. beautifully expressed. There is no hope they'll change. Amputees don't grow new limbs. prosthetic empathy is what they already have and it's what makes them dangerous
People can change for the better I feel sorry for anybody who thinks it's impossible. If your granddaddy abuse you sexually why does somebody else have to bear the brunch of it. Why is this story void of hope it's of hope and change change with Is God's help. There hasn't been one word about contacting interacting the partner just getting rid of them. Why not give them at least a If chance and keep Compromise instead of conflict in mind. Everyone needs to look at their own Problems and be responsible For their part. Compromise compromise compromise.
@@outofthegoldfishbowletcete762 Sam Vaknin has a modal for npd people he's gotta long list now, but it only cures the supply side so far.. Just saying incase anyone needs any further help with npd people..
I think a narcissist despises weak people because they feel like they have conquered their own weakness. This is really detrimental when the narcissist is a parent and their victim is a child, because a child can't help being weak and vulnerable.
+barbara henninger This comment honestly perfectly descibes me as a person. If someone isnt outgoing or is shy, i just would rather to want to be around them.
How do you avoid getting into arguments with a narcissist?? They will leave you feeling insane because they will never take ownership of their faults. It's extremely frustrating!!
Broken record technique. Keep your comments trimmed down to a soundbite and don't allow the narc to derail you from it. When you start going crazy the narc views this as a sign that you love them. (It's really weird and twisted but the easiest way to understand it is to think of a child who acts out to get their parent's attention). You can also read "I'm Ok, You're Ok," a book about transactional analysis. Everyone communicates with others from the perspective of a parent/child/adult.. Depending on who they are in communication with. A narc will act like a child to get a reaction out of you. After you give them the "right reaction" they will think they have turned the tables (usually after you blow up) making them "the parent" and you "the dependent". Its super convoluted logic that I believe there might also be ties to ADD because people with that disorder will also engender fights to trigger their prefrontal cortex (via an adrenaline and cortisol rush). You also have to ask yourself what kind of narc you are dealing with? Is their narcissism fueled by an extreme underlying fear of abandonment? If so, there might be some level of an identity disorder at play which will keep the parent/child/adult roles ceaselessly shifting. In other words, if there is comorbidity involved, dealing with the narc (especially if they do not want any help) can get VERY complicated. It may even be time to move on if you are not equipped to A. handle it or B. Accept the position of lifetime narcissistic supplier/enabler.
I find it amazing to try to talk to someone that's a narcissist. Their lack of empathy makes them boring, also there's something missing when a person is a know-it-all and thinks they have the answers when all they are is obnoxious and don't know where they are missing it! If you try to explain it only makes them angry and it hurts their ego! They don't have time they're too busy being important which is only one dimension. It feels like they're missing the dimensions it takes to connect with people
I have a mother who is narcissistic. She takes over my entire life literally. Always putting me into false hope, denial, self-shame and guilt. She would claim to offer me support, only to put me down the next minute. Any friends and lovers I have are perceived as enemies to her. She always thinks I am plotting with someone against her, and I should oblige to the duty as a daughter to fulfill her entitled position as a divine mother. I have lost my childhood, my youth, my education and my social networks to my mother because I believe in her getting better and I trust her. However, years of lies and belittlement beat me to the rock bottom, where I decide to see light within the darkest of days. I am going to survive this. I hope anyone of you who is facing narcissism would not give up. You have so much to offer to this world. Narcissists are not your entire world.
I feel you. Literally everything you have said is what I am going through. My mom is the same as yours. Maybe we can chat? Add me on Facebook or something, Bergen Clifford. Im from South Africa.
I have just broken up with a covert narcissist. At least I believe she was. I have been watching many videos on the disorder and what happens to people involved with a narcissist. I am amazed at how easily I was sucked in but also when I was shown the patterns it has given me great comfort to know I am not crazy.
What really shocked me about the pathological covert narcissist in my life is the degree of passive-aggressive retribution when I SLIGHTLY called out on his inappropriate behavior. He looked for his chance, waited for the right opportunity to wreck my reputation and esteem in the eyes of the group (in this case, family) and went for it as hard as he could. No empathy, no loyalty.... revenge. Stunning contrast to his kind facade.
An example of malignant narcissism: I went to the doctor with my husband; he is a narcissist. I was given bad news; possible systemic cancer. We went from the facility to the car, at which time he stated: "I have to get a death policy for you." There was no support at all; there never is, but that was especially cold. I don't think he can begin to understand this problem he has; it hurts others. He has continually buried me before a final diagnosis. It is about him, not me. If anything, I can take the cancer better than I can the negative, selfish concern for himself and how it is "affecting him." Don't absorb; ignore, as Dr. Ross says. Thank God I have the faith I do.
the physical cancer is an outpicturing of his emotional abuse. He is a cancer on you.....just eating you alive....feeding off of your emotional responses to his cold remarks.
Dear Denise I hope you are recovering from the cancer you wrote of in your post of four months ago. I wish there was a cure for that and for narcissists like your hard hearted husband. I do hope you are doing much better and will be blessed with good health again soon. May God keep you in his care.
I have a father who would of respond like your husband. I’m so sorry you must be in shock. Remember it has nothing to do with you. Keep your faith in god strong ... 🙏they are the most cold hearted, non compassion people alive.
Denise Horn I hope you found physical healing and left that relationship. 💕 A metaphysical cause of cancer or chronic illness can come from emotional trauma. I hope you left your emotional abuser & have since healed both physically & emotionally.
The truth is that bullies are bullies simply because it works for them, and people who hurt others will make up any excuse in order to deflect responsibility. Character disordered people are not victims. And codependent people don't need psychologists to help them feel sorry for their abusers, they already are quite good at that.
To promote the fact the all bullies are bullies because they are hurt is simply wrong. The idea of a bully's motives come can come many different roots. It can be pottenttialy because they are hurt and they are continuing the cycle of bullying, or it can be just the rush of pursiing the seat of authority which does feel great. It can also be just because they enjoy themselves and an individual with a fixed personality and they assume there seat of authority. It can also be that they are just mean people, naturally. Bullying comes from many roots and it is wrong to just assume that all blullies come from the same incorrect origin.
So spot on! my wife of 25 years is a narcissist. Multiple times she practiced infidelity and each time it was my fault. I kept feeling sorry for her and took her back 4 different times. The last and final time I set boundaries. Basically told her that she has sailed the ship for 20 plus years. Her ship has sunk and I'm the captain now. After about a week of that speech she baited me onto a verbal argument. Called the police to try and have me arrested. The officers told her no arrest and she freaked out. She left and obtained a protective order. my daughter and I were removed from the home. I challenged the order and in her testimony said how o broke a stick across her leg, constant physical abuse as well as mental abuse. my retort to this was I have no arrest record what so ever, while she has multiple. I told the judge do you believe that she would not have called the police if I was ever physical? I mean, she called the police for a verbal. The protective order was dropped. She moved out and back to one of her flings (who I might add successfully obtained a long term protective order against her). Good luck and good riddance to her! No more... I'm done!
Susan, there are two sides to each coin. Stop looking at him already (no sense in that anyway) and start the heck looking at Your part - the only part You can rightfully influence.
I just recently heard someone say, “ I realize, you have put me in position of power to make you happy, but that is not a course I intend to follow. Not my job, not my responsibility to make anyone else happy. That comes from within. All the manipulation and control they do to make another person behave to make them happy. They act like they have power, but truly the power is inside of you, and they fear that. That is why they try to destroy it in you ( or their victims). What sad persons they are. Thank you for your wise words, and empathy to help others see the light. Thank you 🙏.
Ac76543211 ....... its impossible to compete with a third person in a relationship.......you were the third person (hope you can laugh about my comment) ...... i was with one 14 years (rollercoaster ride)
+Aishwarya Reddy Actually, I was not in love with him by the time I showed him the door due to his cheating on me, stealing from me, lying to me, He chipped away at my love for him, However, I still do not understand your reasoning and if you would care to expound upon it, I would love to hear it.
Thank you for this wonderful information. I have completely healed after much counseling and study in this area over a few years after being involved with one of these extremely ill types of people. I can spot it now a mile away, the love bombing, obsessive behavior and overreacting to tiny issues. Thank God for this exposure!
You can be confident without ego, narcissists are completely based on ego. You can be observant, intelligent, and moral with FULL CAPABILITIES to see low self esteem, manipulation, deceit, WITHOUT being any of those things. Narcissists are always self serving and are social, which means they are always competing, manipulating, self serving, so NO there is no such thing as a healthy benign narc. Go towards self acceptance, self love, and being who you are- you'll find your morals, you'll become sensitive to what is Just and Good, opposed to unbalanced and insecure people. And NO, it does not mean your a negative person because you can spot it. ( just as you can spot an obvious hustler, doesn't mean you are one ) Work on your character, have integrity in everything you do cause YOU did it, be proud of yourself when you make balanced choices, be honest (at least with yourself), don't be afraid of humility (it happens to everyone all day, everyday) and trust yourself.
I have been listening a lot to you and Lisa Romano and am encouraged to get proper coaching from a life coach/counselor. I am a single mom with two kids and i still have to live with my mom and siblings since i still need to save for my own place. I am continually challenged to make ends meet for my kids but I manage to provide for their needs like school and their needs in the home.Since we live with my mom, she is the one who apparently provides the food for us in the house and she buys some of the kids's food but this isnt something i impose on her or ask her to do. For years and years, she manages to make me feel like i owe her so much for taking care of me and my kids, for allowing me to move back in with her (since i tried to live on my own for awhile), for basically just living in her house and breathing in it. She and my sister consistently look at how I take care of my kids and just keep finding fault or look at what is missing in what i do. And if they help, it's like i owe them the world for it. They are constantly in my face and stepping on my boundaries--sometimes even taking my kids out without my permission, or doing things with the kids and not telling me. When i happen to do things i am passioante about like hike or go out with my friends , they make me feel bad for spending money on myself. I do allot almost all of what i earn for my kids but there is a good amount i allow myself to spend and they make me feel bad for it. Every time i manage to defend myself or state my side, I am shut down and none of what I feel is validated. My siblings , those who are blind to what is happening, think im the black sheep of the family and that i need help or something is wrong with me. I have managed to hold on to myself and do things i am passionate about for myself like singing and hiking. And i have managed to keep sane.But I am glad that i have come across your youtube channel because for the longest time i was made to feel that something was wrong with me. and that i need fixing. I guess i do need therapy but i am just glad that im aware that it isnt me and that I would know proper coaching from whoever will be doing it. and thank you.
Praying for you. My parents mad it unbearable. I went from a narcissistic husband to a malignant and covert parents. They drove me out of the house and I chose to live in my car and their outdoor shed. Thank God I am in a domestic crisis shelter and am receiving help. You are worth loving ❤️
He fooled me for almost three years wow!!!!! I believe I was a co-dependent I am just starting to recovery. I fell into a deep seated depression, Mentally, physically, and spiritually.
Ross, you are nailing all the most important aspects of the NPD individual. Thank you. I grew up in the long shadow of narcissistic abuse because of my mother. At a very, very young age I knew there was something terribly wrong in our home, and it was my mother. Three of my earliest memories are of my mother chasing my poor dad through the living room, pounding her fists on the backs of his shoulders and I remember her bitter, foul words to this day, "You goddamned shit-ass bastard!", as we three children sat on the floor playing, suddenly watching this horrific, live drama play out. The other time was when my mother for some reason cried, hollered and wailed for a short time, then gathered us kids and my dad all together to have us children make up our minds who we wanted to go with. Why? SHE had decided that the family was breaking up and so she sat us down for us little kids to make our decisions there and then. I could not have been any more than 3 or 4 years old. I remember the whole family were all crying, including my father, traumatizing us children deeply. I spoke up and said in my young voice, "I don't want to go with anybody", meaning I didn't want this to happen, I was frightened, and I was incapable of making such a heavy decision at that age. She was trying to force us to choose between parents. How can you do that to a small child? A third example of her abusive and shocking behavior was when she physically attacked my aunt, her youngest sister in front of the whole family who were sitting in the living room. The large country kitchen was in the room right before our eyes, and she pounded on my aunt until she cried and cowered from my mothers blows. All for being mouthy to my grandmother. I was so young, I thought this was a "spanking" and I remember saying "mommy spanked aunt Sheila", to which she snarled, "Yeah, mommy spanked aunt Sheila" in a tone very inappropriate to use when addressing a little child. But I still hear that voice. That was my early introduction to family life and it only grew worse and worse as time went by. I eventually went NC about 8 years ago. I'm 67. Many deep and painful wounds were buried but I've done the work to uncover all of it and I continue to heal from the damage. I now recognize that I had developed C-PTSD at least by the time I was 20 years old. I suffered from migraine headaches, self-consciousness, shyness, generalized anxiety, social anxieties, depression by age 16 or so, nervous body rashes, stiff muscles, bad nerves, tension, fears, lack of confidence, panic attacks, hyper-vigilance, mild agoraphobia, mistrust of others, failed relationships, a difficult job record for a few years, dissociative disorder and deep shame. I wanted to be invisible and I became quite a loner when I was young. To me, strangers were too threatening to be around and I thought no one liked me. I thought I was stupid and worthless. How could they like a person like me, right? I finally, finally felt whole again in the past several years but still, it's a battle to keep that "mother-in-my-head" out of my consciousness because her words still invade and attack. Thank God I have a wonderful, supportive, understanding man now and it's the first time in my entire life I've felt genuinely understood, validated and emotionally supported. He is my great love. I wish healing for all survivors of narcissistic abuse. My parents finally went their separate ways with a divorce when I was about 23 y.o., and my mother was to end up marrying 4 more times. She is still alive, in a retirement home, aged 94 in October this year. I miss her and love her, but I must stay away for the rage I feel inside still. I feel agonizingly sorry for her because I know she was abused but she will never speak of it. Never. She'll tragically take her secret pain to her grave.
This guy is the BEST I have come across in explaining the addictive dynamic between codependent and narcissist! And in general, describing the narcissist.
Thank you again, Dr. Ross. It's amazing how unfathomable the Narcissistic mindset is to the non-personality-disordered mind. I know all of what you've shared ( THANK YOU for helping to educate me throughout your videos and materials available in your store ), yet it still blows me away hearing it all again. Thank you again for helping me ( and SO MANY ) heal, normalize and then move on after Narcissistic abuse ( and THRIVE again ). Bless you Dr. Ross. And THANK YOU !!!!
Thank you for being the first person to explain this without all the hurling of weird insults. You don't say NO CONTACT NO CONTACT. You don't say all the evil things I found on the Danu Morrigan site. You actually really do talk about what a narcissist is. THANK YOU. You truly have my respect.
+Ross Rosenberg Well thank you, my family needed a no nonsense video to understand what my daughter is feeling. We all appreciate it. She liked it too. Thanks again.
+Lavender Dorie I am sad that it comes to that but only if both sides don't give a little, if just one side of the equation would give in, in the name of love, there could pe peace but sadly it seems it is a case of no compromise when I hear of this "no contact"
+Heather Holt That is not the way it worked in my case, or that of many others I've read about. I begged and pleaded several times with my narc to get counseling with me so we could work out a reasonable relationship. Otherwise, I was under doctors and counselors orders to break off all ties for the sake of my sanity and serenity, as he also fits into the definition of psychopath, and this involved a family partnership that ended up involving corporate crimes that I wouldn't be part of. Every contact was toxic and disabling for me, and always threw me into a tailspin. I did everything possible, and I was the child, he was the adult, so it shouldn't even have needed to be me who went to him. He always said no, that he didn't need any counseling, but apparently I did, so I should continue getting it. He said he's never done anything to hurt anybody, and who in their right mind could ever claim such a perfect record? I eventually learned it's impossible to reason with an unreasonable person. So yes, there are cases when even though one side is willing to bend over backwards, no contact is the only recourse. I tried it in increments of less and less contact, until there was no other choice.
I saw someone else thank you, and I want to thank you for being able to separate your emotions from your message. Many I've seen who call themselves helping other people in this situation often sound like they have yet to be much better themselves - hurling insults and more. Thank you for being rational, practical, and neutral.
Brilliant and concise. I am currently legally separating from my narcissist husband of 30 years so I know first hand much of what you say in this video to be true. The part about sucking the life out of you over time is precisely what I feel at this point. However, I have been in therapy, and read and researched extensively about NPD. I am looking forward to peace of mind and just living a simple life, one that is fulfilling but without all of the drama and uncertainty and pain that living with a narcissist will surely bring. I am also working on my codependent issues because I know If I don't I am pretty much destined to fall prey again to another narcissist personality. Thank you for sharing your videos. I truly believe you know and understand the personality of the narcissist.
Thanks for the video. Only recently I realized my brother was a narcissist and that I was his main victim/target. He has been out of my life for quite a while now and since separating myself from him I have flourished far more than before. Unfortunately, my brother will never see that he suffers from NPD so he will never change. I can only recommend that in the vast majority of relationships with a narcissist, the best thing to do would be to remove yourself from the narcissist, they truly are toxic people that will leech the life out of you. I bought your book and will definitely enjoy reading it. I think you offer some great insights that will help many people.
Quite accurate and very articulate. I went through love-bombing and then agreed to be there for my narc ex as she was going through divorce. But I didn't subscribe to be a codependent, and when she insisted I started establishing boundaries. She couldn't handle that. Totally caustic and destructive incarnation of evil. Cost me three years of my life, my job, a big portion of my money and mental and physical health. I don't care if they don't see where the problem lies, they are the problem and it's not fixable. Stay away from narcs, whatever stories they sell. Run for the hill. Let them deal with it. Let them rot.
Love your videos. Thank you so much. I just left a relationship with a narc who is 70 years old. I find it so difficult to understand how someone who has been on this earth for that long and is a very intelligent person, would not have picked up "some" insight along the way into their hurtful behavior. After so many failed relationships, people telling them over & over how hurtful they are and having heard the same critisism woudn't they have to have gained something? Apparently not.
A must watch!! I think what makes codependents like me value videos such as this is, is for every question answered I can relate with numerous instances for such tendencies from the narc. Videos such as this validate a couple of things... That I am not insane, that there is hope and recovery from the damages inflected, and we can put an end to this form of abuse - with boundaries and departure; because it is abuse in its true sense. Thanks once again for the re-enforcement and enlightenment.
This is the most accurate effective and helpful explanation. I love the humane way this video is done. So much better than the hateful vengeful videos that I have seen. Kudos to you for such a great explanation.
Truly great video! Only people who had personal experience to deal with a narcissist can fully understand all of this. I had a narcissistic boss on my first job. Very elegant woman, great looking for her age (she was in her 50s), very fun, good sense for humor, intelligent..clients of her office liked her,then also neighbors (people who lived in flats near her office) liked her a lot since she always talked and joked with them,helped them..etc. So,in eyes of people who didn't Share Their Everydays and their Lives with her,she was an angel. But for us,her workers, she was worse from a devil. Same like for her family, children, son in law..She was never satisfied with her any worker. And she had tones of them,nobody stayed long to work for her. Working for her meant to go to home in tears, stressed, coming on job nervous, occupied with thinking in what mood she'll be when you enter the door in morning..For her,all her workers were overpaid since they didn't deserve that money, they were always stupid, slow, superficial, mean, ugly.. The same way she treated her children,son and daughter, her husband, her sister..nobody was ever good enough for her. Nobody ever had enough of courage to confront to her since she was too dominate,too manipulative and too bastard to break them. And in situations when she saw that she made them too pissed,she started to play a poor victim..and it worked every time. The worst problem of all is that most of people,victims of a narcissist, Never Realize who they deal with,they don't even know for that "diagnose" and whole their lives they desperately try to find the right way for dealing with that person using the power of arguments, trying to prove and explain them things..but it is all useless. The only right way is; to Run Away and Don't Turn Around!
Can you be my therapist? This video is so eye opening. My wife just finally made me realize this morning that I suffer from NPD. I had no idea, I thought i was slightly normal and everyone else just couldn't see it from my point of view. I always knew something was wrong just couldn't pin point it. It's not easy for me to admit, but I would really like to be able fight this. I don't think i'm imprisoned to it. I refuse to let this run my life that I now know what's wrong with me. Thank you again for making this video. Im going to start looking for therapists that deal with type of personally disorder.
salute for recognizing it and your desire and will to do something about it. just that alone...you're healed and don't even know it. it's just a process to progress, from here on out. good luck to you and your family.
Wicked Moto. Hi, I think you are the first person (and I have heard many) who I saw acknowledge a problem with this. You have taken a big step toward healing....God bless you. Jesus will help you!
I am also coming to see that I am too. I am so in awe to see myself in such a different light. I feel hope that I can change and be happy. Good luck!!!
It's very rare that someone admits to being a narcissist, because most that are called out on it, deny deny deny that they have anything wrong with them..It's one of the their more prevelent character traits ; denial, blame & shame. Maybe you do have it, maybe you dont. You may have a different personality disorder that needs to be diagnosed and treated. Great to hear that you want to address your issues.. I commend you. Good luck
Good news! We are all narcissist in one way or another, but it doesn’t mean that you are bad. In fact, I’d dare say that if you were truly a narcissist you wouldn’t acknowledge that you have a problem. True narcissists do not admit fault, guilt, or that they have a problem. We, of course, could all use a little more concern for the needs of others over our own needs, but that is natural and self preservation is a normal part of the evolutionary process.
All my ex could do was point out my flaws. All the time. And he always considered it an issue. He, however, downplayed or downright denied any flaw I pointed out to him. I never made an issue of his flaws, or commanded him to do something about it. I asked, but I didn't push it because I accept someone's flaws. He was constantly projecting. Called me a liar several times, and I remember so vividly I always thought "A liar? But... I'm not lying? Why does he try so hard to make me 'admit' I'm a liar while I'm not?" And many other things I didn't recognize he pushed onto me, things I couldn't even relate to or didn't match my viewpoints. But he genuinely believed that was what I was thinking or doing. He had zero reflection. I was constantly changing myself, improving myself, constantly doubting myself but trying my best. He had no hardships. He was thriving off my issues. But his lack of reflection tells me he isn't going to chance. Probably never. It sucks. I miss him. But he treated me like trash. He cheated on me and dared to blame me for it. I know there are better people out there. I hope someday I will meet someone. Because right now I feel kind of lonely. I'm sure that's part of why he managed to conquer me. Sigh.
This is so spot on!! Thank you. I thought I was going crazy and I finally realised my partner is a narcissist with bpd. You described everything perfectly. My life is a nightmare with him, yet it’s so hard to leave.
This was so HELPFUL....I am dealing with my sister who has destroyed our relationship and I've always searched for a reason why? I love her with all my heart however, I realize now what the issues is....she is a narcissist! I just pray the Lord will heal her and our relationship....
If she is anything like my narc sister, she will shift as she gets older. For 25 years my narc sister didn't speak to me. She triangulated her children and grand children against me. Very hurtful. Now that she is sick, older and feeble she needs someone to talk to. She needs someone to TRY and fall back on financially. I'm sort of okay with lending her an ear from time to time. But there will be no money exchanges because I do not know what is truth and what is a lie. Does she need my little money, or is she just lying. When I do talk to her, her conversation is always so strange and full of false memories. So I only allow it to go on just so long. I do love my nutty sister. But now I understand what the problem is. So thanks to Ross Rosenberg I only put up with her in small increments. Because she triangulated her family against me (I never retaliated), they as grown ups don't quite know what to make of me, right today. Her grandson made it out of her damaging clutches to become a Christian.
you have pinpointed what was wrongwith my last relationship. I spent years trying to understand what motivated him. I love him still, but like a hurting child.
jumping jobs is not a characteristic of all narcs.-- the ones i met stay in high money jobs, and flash their money around, and drive fancy cars. materialism is the focus.
YES!!!! Materialism IS the whole focus.my sis-who is the narcissist - has always had a good job.she has invested 40 yrs ' crafting' a FACADE (at her work). I'm seriously am thinking about exposing her publicly.and I think she will disintegrate.
Gorilla Twist....I've experienced two narcissists with two job histories. My ex-husband, ex narcissist, has had the same job for 16 years. He's good at what he does. This narc was the work a holic type and material positions were always important. He wanted to have the best of the best in some things. Buying things to buy someone's love was also something he did. He also over extended himself financially. The second narcissist has had multiple jobs all of his life. He loves money sure and material items are of importance. But when one has a job you have to be on time and work under some management, rules need to be followed. This type of narc gets fired or gets offended if they're singled out over an issue at work. This type of narc burns bridges. They over extend themselves fincially. If possible they become reliant on someone that will cater to their financial needs.
Marie Halsey I have also met both types. My mother in law is the latter you were talking about. She never keeps a job for long and is horrible at managing money. She's always trying to get money from her ex and children.
Calling the narcissist a drug of choice for the co-dependent , I like that. They can be as destructive and leave you as broke as some kind of hard drug. Now, that I think about it, far more people have probably lost families, homes, cars, jobs due to the drug of choice being a narcissist than to cocaine or heroin.
Best video Ive seen with NPD. It doesnt shame people but gives understanding to why they act the way they do. I think we are all have Narcissm in some way. Nobody has a perfect childhood. I like the understanding of why people act the way they do.
I loved this video and all the comments.I needed this today.I've been dealing with narcissists- in my family all my life.I was abused they weren't.I always thought' man it must be nice not to have been beat down etc.' You know, to have some self esteem etc.NOW I know it was more than good self esteem.
This dis order has to have some type of cure? Are there medical treatments out there? I feel so bad about my narcissistic family member. They are so totally lost. Makes me sad. Thank you for this video.
Narcissist's project their wrong doings onto others. So, they are victimizers who play victim. I would suspect anyone blaming a narcissists bad behavior on trauma either is or is being manipulated by a narcissist.
It's so good to find a video on youtube discussing this topic without framing those who suffer from these ailments as soulless husks who's sole motivation is to watch the world burn. I understand the frustration these people can bring, but I see so many people that discuss this topic seemingly forget the underlying humanity that still exists in the them. Really well structured video, thank you for your insight!
Hi Ross, great video. Your comments on 'how it is never enough' and 'they always want more', are very recognizable. I refer to this as him being a 'black hole'. All love, time and attention (and also money) is being sucked in, nothing comes out in return. Also i recognize that shame/emotional pain is a very big issue for narcistic persons, they have no clue what to do with this feeling. While anger is alway ready available. I do disagree with you on the origin of narcistic behaviour. It cannot be only psychological trauma. If my ex husband had a trauma, it is really well hidden. His whole childhood he was catered for by his mom for everything he wanted and everything he possibly might need. Although they were not whealty, he got what he wanted. He had a very succesfull schoolcareer with many friends, was really good at sports. There were many many successes in his young life that could have healed the two events that he is still memorating as being hurtfull and shamefull. One of them was a disagreement with a teacher over what was the biggest star our milkyway (he was 10 or so). The other one a quarrel with some neighbor children that he and his friend could not win themselves and his father had to settle it. I think that most of us a have had to deal with a little more than this and yet we are empathic, giving human beings. To what i have seen, there is a strong genetic component also. His grandpa had it. His mom has it. The ex fits all definitions of a covert. And also our youngest daughter shows many many signs of narcistic behaviour too. For my daughter I want to believe that there is both a genetic component and behaviorial component in this. I hope i can learn her how to deal with shame and emotional pain in a way that it does not hurt the people around her.
Kareltje, have you read my book The Human Magnet Syndrome: The Codependent Narcissist Trap? You can find it on my website www.SelfLoveRecovery.com. It would be helpful to you. In it, I go into detail of the previous 4 generations of my own family explaining the transgenerational forces. I think you might find it enlightening. Best, Ross
I went through the breakup without therapy, and felt like I was dying physically. Emotionally I flatlined, which can be interpreted as such intense emotions it becomes white noise at full volume while simultaneously being so fried that you disassociate. I cried on and off for a year straight and was so easily triggered to cry-my emotions were just below the surface. The physical symptoms included constant nausea that was so intense I couldn’t eat and I lost 30 lbs. Also the sensation that my skin was peeling off in sheets from the inside out. I felt like I needed to puke everything inside of me out - puke out my soul. I lost my job because I had disassociated so severely that I made huge errors that cost the company thousands I never would have made in a clear frame of mind. For months I couldn’t leave my bedroom. When I finally became able to begin my healing I spent time in nature, and took up meditation and praying. I’m not even religious but there’s no dark night of the soul like recovering from a narcissist’s discard.
Wow I hear you ...Its true I really believe. Never mind the 1st time he discarded me-5 months of what u went through, like an idiot I took him back cause, lasted 4 months..last 2 months I'm no good at getting my life back....I confronted him 1 month ago when I watched videos on what he was .a Covert NARSACIST was but didn't listen To the just walk away video from this guy who is the best.
ii never heard about narississic until 4 months ago i could save my son and myself from the devil year ago if i had known.from a life of pure living hell.
After watching over 1000 + videos on Narcissism this video gives the most precise and concise definition of what Narcissism is I use it as my #1 abuse counseling video in my Ministry! Thanks
Thank you for providing such valuable information. I am an empathic co-dependent. Have broken off a 2 year toxic relationship with a Narcissist. I'm not in therapy as I'm currently unemployed. I find your videos and others like yours so helpful during this truly difficult time.
Projection. Ugh! Everything he (falsely) accused me of; stealing, sneaking, cheating, etc. he was doing. Every. Single. Thing. When Satan can't get to you, he sends a narcissist. Signed. (former) co-dependant empath with daddy issues
The narc in my life is simply draining. That's the best way of describing it. I'm in IT and he often calls me seeking tech help. I get to his apartment and almost immediately I am overwhelmed by his insistence on intruding and telling me what I'm doing is wrong or to not bother because he tried that already. I'm usually overjoyed when someone plays an active role with me in troubleshooting tech but my narc friend leaves me vibrating with utter frustration almost to the point where I feel sick. It's so bad, I end up crossing my arms and watch him further ruin the configuration or stumble his way through trying to fix it and if I interject with, "I think we should follow the instructions. That's how I approach my work" he flies off the handle and says, "what kind of tech are you? You should know all this already." It is very insulting and hurtful and infuriating. But I've managed to appear calm, cool, and poised while explaining to him, "if you think a techy person was born with their tech knowledge and Google isn't their best friend, then you best stay far away from the tech field as you'll go in circles trying to fix something that you think your brilliant and genius brain will figure out along the way. " It was said in obvious lighthearted tone although I was serious. He then responded in a typical narc fashion, "What on earth are you going on about? I have no idea what you just babbled about." I am often there for hours trying to sneak my way of doing things in when he's not looking but he always pounces on me when he thinks I am close to fixing it. He cannot give me the satisfaction of knowing I actually helped and helped doing it my way. On two occasions he eventually gave up only after I put on this act where I declared defeat and announced, "I am officially stumped!" That seemed to please him long enough to become distracted and allow me to fix the darn printer. He then tried as hard as he could to not notice I had fixed it and basically forget why I was even there. When I explained what the issue was, I said, "Part of the problem was your IP wasn't set to static, causing the connection to break when your printer was assigned a new IP. And about 90% of the problem was you." I then made it a point to chuckle in a very "I'm kidding!!" fashion. I'm not kidding when I say he then looked as if he were ready to murder me. He then proceeded to treat me like shit for the next week or so. Patience is my middle name.
They are wounded children that never grew up and you can never love them through it. Would love to see a video about 2 siblings growing up in an abusive relationship and why one ends up a covert and the other sibling does not.
@@bonitasmith6064 Bless you & thank you. May I ask how old were you when you made that decision? I ask because I have heard on these videos that that type of decision is made very early on--before 7. Thank you if you allow me to pry.
@@adimeter I was raised as a Christian, and when the abuse started that opened my eyes to evil and never wanted to be a part of that. I'm an empathy and always wanted to help and make people happy from kindergarten until now at 61. Blessings to you 💯💪🙏
I have just become aware that my 45 year old daughter suffers from NPD after 30+ years of horrendous abuse from her. I believe that this personality disorder was initially the result of being severely burned as a baby and seperated from me at that time for 3 months while she underwent treatment and surgery. However, her behaviour towards me has become so severe that I believe she will not be happy until she kills me - spiritually, psychologically and probably physically. This has led to my decision to break contact with her permanently. I have asked her to get help but...as you outline in your video...this enraged her more! A tragedy...wish I had known about this 44 years ago. Thank you for your video.
Oh, I'm only 5 minutes in and it's already helping SO much for me to understand the narcissist in my family. Thank you! It's hard to believe that the narcissist in my life really is full of shame on the inside, I have read many articles and some say they are really insecure deep down, and some day that's a myth.🤔😟
My ex-mother in law was atrocious, she was conniving, evil and malicious. Not only has she got a few people wrapped around her finger she had me intertwined in it all. She used to betray me, rape me spiritually and connivingly trick me to do things I didn’t want to do out of pure fear. She’s evil. I’ve never met anyone more eviler than her. Just wanted to share this with everyone so everyone knows what I went through. Thanks
It took me 13 years to realize what was going on. I really thought I just wasn't good enough. And he still years later is destroying us most importantly the child he begged me for. He has destroyed my whole way of thinking. I can't wrap my mind around it.
how are you doing now? Im just learning this about my wife, STBX wife. 14yrs of fake. Not sure sociopathy or what. I guess just plain old malignant narcissism. cheated on me the whole marriage.
Mr. Rosenberg...you have NO IDEA how ecstatic I am to have ran across you on here. I have had pieces of you literature since 2001 when I put myself through rehab and are my treasures in life I always felt. Even to the point of pure panic mode if I thought anything had happened to them. Lol I have spent most of my life searching for what is wrong with me. Why I felt the way I did. Why my marriage failed after 17 years to my best friend...my high school sweetheart...the father to my 3 beautiful children. Why my mother always would tell me "Carrie Lynn, you ought to be plumb damn ashamed of yourself" and to this day still does. I am almost 50 yrs. old. Three years from it. I have been single ever since my divorce in 2001 or 2, I can't really remember. How embarrassing is that? I honestly thought I was going to die from a broken heart. The one that I thought would NEVER leave me had left me. And sent me and my children back to the place I had ran away from when I was 17 years old. And to the person I ran away from. It took me 5 years to get away from there with my babies which were not babies anymore. And I was having a hard time excepting the fact the I couldn't turn back time to get any of those years back with them. But we did it. We got us a place and stayed for a little over 5 years. Till my Daddy got diagnosed with 3 different types of cancer at 75 and shortly after he totally retires. He asked me one day why my Momma would not come down stairs to be with him. I had no idea of anything comforting to tell my darling Daddy. And it hurt me to the core of my being. Not long after that he tells me that he don't know how he is going to pay his bills an all with the new medical expenses. It threw me. And with no hesitation what so ever. With no acknowledgement of myself or my babies. I said "Daddy, as hard as you worked for this family I cannot let you worry about money your last days on this earth. I will move back home and take care of things. " Anyway...That was 2012...and my Daddy passed away 2012. I am still here where I ran away from WITH THE PERSON I RAN AWAY FROM.....where I was born and raised...where I was the youngest of 4 children with severe asthma...where I was molested by several ppl..........WITH MY SEVENTEEN year old son.....my baby. I have to recover....I have to get away from here...I have to know what it is liked to be loved. ...to li e myself SO I CAN DEMONSTRATE THIS TO MY BABIES THAT GOD GAVE ME....SO I CAN SHOW MY 4 GRANDBABIES HOW TO LOVE THEMSELF TOO. I am stuck in these 4 walls and I feel as if I am loosing my mind forreal.
Wow, Ross, you are the best at decoding the Narcissist, their patterns, habits, quirks, needs, effects and pathologies. This video is so clear in covering so many of the hot topics and buttons which elude us, while in discovery and recovery from Narcissistic Abuse. I grew up in Winnetka, IL, and now live in Santa Fe, NM. I am both adopted at birth, and the adult only daughter of an aging Queen style Narcissistic Mother, with many very harsh Borderline traits, and a Jewish matriarchal lineage of severe depression and Borderline Personality Disorder. My Mom's Borderline fraternal twin aunts actually traded souls/swapped bodies, at the end of their life, with each other, the psychotic one, becoming philosophical and warm hearted, and the gregarious one, becoming hate-filled and embittered. When People bring up "white privilege" I am always the first to counter that I grew up near where the film "Ordinary People" was filmed. Pain and suffering runs across all categorizations of socialization. My Mom was in community theater for decades. It was a great outlet for all her intensity, emotionality and need for validation. Three years ago I collided with one of her biggest betrayals to date, and started to learn that she really does not see me as a person, yet I suppose more of an appendage, object, prop, or possession. So while she is over 80, I have gone "no contact" most of this year. It is such a huge lesson, to learn how to make space for me to be whole and healthy, and honor that there is no hope or way to share or get health out of her, and it will only keep getting worse. I had the blessing of my Dad, recently, who admitted, he doesn't know how I have withstood the abuse for so many decades, and to do whatever I need to do. Detangling, and getting my wholeness back from the lies, is a huge focus, with help from a local therapist, and these most awesome resources you and other genius guides and helpers share. I am grateful for you, and so many brilliant Healers, Teachers, Authors and Guides. I just received some additions to my library by George Simon, Peg Streep, Sandra Ingerman, and Pete Walker. I have been a Hypnotherapist for 25 years working with Past Life Regression and QHHT, Quantum Healing Hypnosis Technique. Yet have opened to psychotherapy over the recent 3 years since my Narcissistic Mom's biggest and most dramatic betrayal thus far. I am grateful that, as challenging as it has been, that in her 80's she has shown me that she has the emotional maturity of a needy 4 year old. This is a good reminder for me to individuate fully at 53, while the going is still possible. The reality that my Dad read Dr. Spock's books and has respected, seen, loved, and treasured me since my arrival, is such a sharp Grace based contrast with my Narcissist Adoptive Jewish Mother. My Mom has treated me as her main scapegoat for the last 43 or 53 years of my life, since my dad divorced her to secure his own happiness. I say she always treats me like she feels like sh _ _, and it's all my fault. I feel like she is the last deeply unhealthy human in my life. Seeing her dysfunctions for what they truly are, and healing my hand-me-down shame, blame, pain, fear, grief, rage, hopelessness and helplessness, and the hand-me-down internalization of the old Jewish Ghetto of Russia, Poland, Vienna and so on, is such a healthy leap for me. I look forward to reading your books, and continuing to learn, share, guide, empower, and receive guidance on this transformational path. This video is kind of like vitamins for the soul. It's very core and essential to the healing process. I plan to come back and listen to it over and over. Thanks for being the honest, open, clear, shining star: blessing that you are. Much deep transformation and encouragement on the journey to my fellow survivors! May we turn this world around towards unity, love, compassion, empathy, healing, wholeness, joy and purpose, step by step by step! I love what you share, Ross, in your video, "What Exactly Does Happy and Dysfunctional Mean? Redefining Mental Health" th-cam.com/video/jZqAnUXJVuE/w-d-xo.html . After decades of being shamed, blamed, discounted, devalued and denied, it is dear and encouraging to be reminded that self awareness, self responsibility, willingness to feel and allow one's true feelings, and an openness to inner and outer resources, guidance and help are all healthy human attributes, and stubborn clinging to being right, control, fear, addiction, blame, shame, and unwillingness to look within, ask for help, or express vulnerability, are all key ingredients that lock in, and perpetuate Narcissism emotional irresponsibility and Narcissistic abuse! Thank you so kindly! You are an encouraging force for good!
from Greek mythology, a man named Narcissius spent all his time gazing at his reflection in the water of a pond so the god zeus turned him into a flower - that is how we get the english word and meaning.
My husband has poor relationships; no true bond. He immediately went to every person he could and told them of my situation. He needed the "pity"" for himself. Not one of them called me; they never have and never will because the family is torn down. But, he needed the "supply" for himself. It is terribly inappropriate and short-sighted of him. Prayer; a positive attitude; not hovering with constant comments as though I will die today would be nice! They cannot see because they are so busy spinning within themselves with constant worry about themselves. It is truly sad.
Wow. As a co-dependent who has been with someone with NPD for several years, I can say this video is spot on, and the last part describing the pain of leaving the narcissist without seeking therapeutic support is completely accurate. As someone who has a history of addiction and recovery, your analogy to withdrawal from an addiction was extremely resonant to me. Even though I knew the person I was with was making me suffer and lacked empathy completely, I still felt empty and lonely when she was no longer there. This is a great video that was helpful for me in learning about myself and my recent experiences.
Really appreciate you. Thanks so kindly for your support and attention to those of us breaking free! I want to get your book-and attend a conference or webinar.
This is great. Thank you. I have been exposed to a raging narcissist my whole life. They are something else indeed. They have an insane egocentric view of the world. EVERYTHING relates to them. It's the craziest thing to witness. Especially when they are constantly trying to coax an emotional reaction from people with the most innane statements. It's an absolutely bonkers performance! Peace and love to all the brave souls exposed to narcs. Just remember you are the strong ones, they are totally imbalanced.
Eurovision 2015 mad complex post traumatic stress disorder. complex because it's multilayered. childhood injuries compounded by the choices those injuries caused you to make. like marrying an abuser working for an abusive employer putting up instead of walking away. these are all choices stemming from learned helplessness acquired due to trauma and neglectful parents
You hate us? Well we fucking hate you. Probably too weak to keep up or something. Don't feel sorry for us because we'll probably be your boss for the rest of your life. You're the one who sounds like they have a poor self-esteem and are "empty" inside. My childhood was perfect and I'm still this way. Just because humans have the ability to feel empathy doesn't mean we have to. Why would I feel sorry for someone who means nothing to me when I could disregard your existence and keep on moving up in life? You should study how alpha-wolves are established. I'll tell you one thing, it doesn't happen by being a pussy ahah. This shit is just too easy man. Y'all are dumb and misinformed af.
Narcassism is not developed solely from abuse. The abuse factored in as a variable. There are plenty of these entities that had a safe upbringing and still have a support system they abuse regularly. These people are just evil. Too many "disorders" used as reasons when these people are just plain EVIL.
SeAnna Tastic ....I agree. I appreciate all these video's and agree with so much of the info since I kept a close eye on my sisters husband for years. I easily started connecting dots about what little I learned year after year since he has kept me away from my sister in many ways she still doesn't see. Then I learned what a narc was and that was the final piece of this puzzle! All my previous thoughts about his odd (to me, since I love my sister but she loves and trusts him more, which keeps her blind) behavior have been verified by the details taught about covert narcs. behavior. But I still see too many 'clinical' excuses which are also legally protecting these attempted murderers. Yes, this is basically what they have done for years as explained by devastated victims both financially devastated and emotionally traumatized (along with innocent children!). Look at the facts about laws. A person caught with a pound of cocaine or crack can spend years in jail. But a spouse who learns too late about NPD will still lose in family court no matter how much circumstantial evidence they have. Every good covert narc knows how to increase their odds to beat the court. That's why covert narcs never hit their spouse for years. Even if they do, by the time their broken down victim learns what these demons are, the bruises have long ago healed. Meanwhile, their victims savings has been mostly spent too. What victim can prove with receipts their spouse has thrown away , that their spouse has spent their victims money on? Last I checked, casinos and prostitutes don't hand out receipts for money handed over. Same for money that narcs have hidden away over the years. My sister has contributed over $750,000 in gross earnings and an inheritance. After 15 years with this narc, she is so brainwashed that she doesn't wonder why she has no money! He has naturally told her it's all tied up in investments. Their combined income easily allows them to retire. Yet she mentioned recently "I want my next job to be so much less stressful". Next job!?!! She's over 50, and still believes she needs to work 10 plus more years even though she had no children! Meanwhile, her narc makes all the spending decisions. Just wait if she ever wakes up and wants a divorce. Odds are she will lose in court. She can easily be the next financially wiped out victim facing the cold hard reality that she will be working until the day she dies and living in a dump apartment too. No wonder so many victims experience ptsd. They have to come to terms with the fact that their best years were all one big illusion! Meanwhile, many of these narcs simply move on and live comfortably with all the stolen cash. I've read enough comments from victims too. Something is very wrong with this. Also, dead victims (murdered, heart attack, stress induced suicide etcetera) can't text!
Whispering Acts oh I agree!! I certainly did not abuse my son when he was little!!! His dad did not either!! We were divorced like half of all families today!! In fact his dad was a jerk (I always called him) hence I could not live with him!! Best thing I ever did in my life
The last narcissists l met had an entitled childhood, grew up in mansions, but were sexually abused in their private school. The father gave them no boundaries, they were applauded for bad behaviour by not being accountable. They had a sense of entitlement. Brothers, one was overt the other covert. Both ignored by their wealthy relatives. Living on the streets, l got them a house before l realised that they were narcs, the agent won’t let them sign another lease so they will become homeless again. They are truly ugly people.
Amen, there IS a Spiritual component. In fact recovery from SLDD in my experience requires a higher power. At any right you're correct and some have never been given limits or boundaries, have been enabled. Possibly they experienced no limits + abuse & or neglect. It's complex. It's not necessarily our mission to grasp. We have more than enough to do to stop enabling and protect ourselves and recover. It should however be better understood and more carefully studied!!!
You have literally saved my life! I have been on the brink of losing my mind and ending my life. After searching for answers I’ve listened and can relate to almost everything you’ve had to say. It ALL makes sense now! In 30 minuets you’ve just explained exactly what I’ve been going through. I’ve gone through hell and back with my ex Narcissistic partner. Drained all my energy... I didn’t even know who I was anymore. You are absolutely correct when talking about the loneliness you experience after a break up. Nothing like I’ve ever experienced before. I am stepping up and I’m going to get further help. I need to find myself again and make sure I don’t fill the void with another Narcissist Man. This has changed my life forever. Thank you
Loneliness is sweet heaven compared to life with the narc. I’ll take it over them any day.
I hope you are well. I know this is true. God help me to be strong in boundaries and Hope.
Absolutely agree
Well shit some of us are trying.
The worst thing than being lonely is being married to the wrong person I would rather be lonely and fill it up with my own happiness in my own good friends than to be married with an Narc.
Did you know it's well-known documented that if you married the wrong person it shortens your life by about one-third wow isn't that crazy
BB BB however you do shoulder some of the responsibility of who you marry
Silence is the best weapon against narcissism. Information is ammunition for the narcissist, by continously replying and talking to a narcissist you give them ammunition. Silence makes them malfunction.
Al Haymon Thanks
The silent treatment is psychological torture. Don't cause more pain...
@@SunderBlue22 we are not sentenced to a lifetime of dealing with them just because we dealt with them in the past. Done is done.
The best weapon again a narcissist is to once you identify that you are dealing with one (and this is the most difficult part ...it's like finding what is making you sick ,once you know what you are dealing with you get empowered to start making changes, everything start making sense) pack your bags and live without warning and never look back .
Exactly 👍 👍
A narcissist will start a fire, blame someone else and then come back as a fireman to put the fire out. 🔥👤
Just like our government does
Sooooooo true
I just read yesterday, a narcissist will wet the bed and blame the sheets. I believe that!!!!
Damn
The Hegelian Dialectic!
“The persons with NPD can’t bear to think there something wrong with themselves.” You got that right.
They knew what wrong they'd done but never admitted.
That's why you see them blaming their parents for their evil abuse of others. They refuse to take responsibility for their own nasty behaviour
I left my husband after 44 years. New friends I have made do not understand what he was like and I couldn't explain. After seeing this video I feel vindicated and can now explain what a NPD does to a person without laying a hand on them.
Good for you!!! 👍👍👍👍👍😘😸😸😸😸
I’m so sorry, but so glad you are out. I got a divorce after 32 years. It was personality disorder throughout the family. My husband would see and hear his siblings being rude or lying and he would believe them over me.....the last year of my own realization, I found he would hug his sisters, but never touched, hugged or kissed me....thank God for strength to get out.
Blessings be yours, I hope you can love yourself now and find a new chapter in your life💕
Family would be sitting at dinner table and time after time my mother would waltz in and announce I would be schizophrenics before she would because it skips generations. Needless to say my grandmother was manicdepressive. But she called her schizophrenics. My mother was a narc to the core spoiled by her father
They don't end up as your soulmate just your cell mate. I like that.
wound mates.
That was a slaaaam dunk!😂😂😂🐷’s
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My narc might actually end up being a cell mate if he can't obey his restraining order!
@@the_eerie_faerie_tales 😲
"The narcissist will never get why you set a boundary." If this doesn't show clearly that no contact is the only way to go, I don't know what will.
My boundaries came naturally with healing even still in the relationship. He was unable to get his fix even though my body was still there. He left. No contact a consequence without drama.
Boundaries means respect of which they don't have
In my experience with narcissists they know they have no self esteem but their ego will not let them experience insecurity. And them insulting people isn't necessarily true. In fact the narcissists I knew will call someone ugly when they weren't ugly...call them fat when they weren't. It's like they invent flaws.
It took half my life to realize I was a victim, enabler and now a survivor of 3 extreme pathological narcissists. One after the other. From Childhood into Adulthood into Motherhood. I'm a magnet to narcissists because of my own naivety, wounds and patterns. It has nearly destroyed me a few times...but lucky for me ...I am a warrior. Now, my Narsism radar is getting stronger every day, I have a lot of compassion for them but iron fast boundaries.
They are charming, magnetic and talented. Every bad thing that's ever happened to them is someone else's fault. It's always the other person that is crazy, the ex that was pshyco, and they remain looking quite innocent. They get cold or angry when called out and attack when being held accountable. They always turn it around so you crazy or wrong for bringing the issue up. They are always boosting themselves up and putting others down. Always looking for roles where they are the best. They orchestrate scenarios to be the one praised. Sometimes the most subtle of ways. They seem so loving, giving, kind ... and the deception begins.
You'll find they try and divide people from different parts or stages in their lives rather than bring them together which might result in their cover being blown. Divide to conquer.
When you're eyes are open you can't un-see. When the soul spies the danger it can not rest. No one will believe you. To fight it is to cause more harm because these guys will stop at nothing to save face. Do not beg, do not run but rather...raise your head and gracefully walk away. You may be wounded but you have already won by having a life free-er from them.
Me too
"I am a warrior"
Head held high, chin up,heart broken, walked away.
🙌💯👊
Me to
The narcissist in my life was able to recall every traumatizing event in their life. Even from childhood. They want to be the victim and I think that is one way to pull in empathizers into their game.
mariel campos
becareful they recreate history
mariel campos I agree who hasn’t had some type of trauma or neglect in their childhood I think they use it as an excuse andthey don’t give a damn about trying to get help It’s always someone else’s fault
Yup and their pain is always worse than yours
Wow you commentators are so smart (since you know for sure every thing and every reason for everyone else's behavior I don't know why your hanging around and hanging on to a.ross Rosenberg awesome evaluation of narccisitic core shame and reason albeit dysfunction
Lonjemarieswisdom Aina llllllll
In my opinion, this is one of the better, more accurate, videos dealing with narcissism.
I fully agree
Agreed, Jamie and Jay. This is more informative and seemingly without the personal baggage of some of the other posts.
@@metacomet2066 Very true, no personal baggage. Another channel with a similar approach is Vital Mind Psychology, worth checking out!
Thank you Jamie!
Absolutely agree 100%
never ever feel sorry for a narcissist! They do it all to themselves.
Kareltje I feel sorry for my husband because is stuck in his own creation of a false reality just to survive himself!
@@nancyclark-gaines6856 It’s not their fault it’s their parents.👀
They don't feel sorry for anyone.
@@dawnanderson4967 take your narcissist pity party elsewhere. Nobody's parents made them them be evil
@@dawnanderson4967 But remember you did not make them the creatures they are. You do not deserve their abuse. No-one does. Keep away from them. I do not care that they didn't do it to themselves. No-one deserves their abuse.
I believe a narcissist can also be formed by being spoiled as a child
A child that had no consequences for their actions
@@scinformation7229 sorry, they're awful
So true...
Like a neglected child, a spoiled child also is invisible,.
You just described my mother, and sister, keep that cycle going! Rip
@@Frigate_Birds72 surreal right?
Thanks Ross at 62 I'm just beginning my journey away from NPD. I appreciate your calmness and directness when you speak. No judgement.
I was in part-time therapy for 16 years. My therapist once asked my parents to come & do 6 sessions so he could help them better understand me. My narcissistic father said, "No, I don't need a professional to tell me about my daughter. I know her [he did not]." My mother, who was afraid of him, agreed & said No. I never had a chance at reconciliation because my father was so invested in his view of me & would not let a professional educate him. I was a Bad Daughter & a Disappointment to him until his death because his narcissism would allow nothing else. Narcissism is extremely damaging to the people around them. Please don't give people false hope that a narcissist can be cured.
Xander Taylor thanks. beautifully expressed. There is no hope they'll change. Amputees don't grow new limbs. prosthetic empathy is what they already have and it's what makes them dangerous
People can change for the better I feel sorry for anybody who thinks it's impossible. If your granddaddy abuse you sexually why does somebody else have to bear the brunch of it. Why is this story void of hope it's of hope and change change with Is God's help. There hasn't been one word about contacting interacting the partner just getting rid of them. Why not give them at least a If chance and keep Compromise instead of conflict in mind. Everyone needs to look at their own Problems and be responsible For their part. Compromise compromise compromise.
@@outofthegoldfishbowletcete762 Sam Vaknin has a modal for npd people he's gotta long list now, but it only cures the supply side so far.. Just saying incase anyone needs any further help with npd people..
Music to my ears - the narcissist will eventually face the music and fall from grace!
Thank you, thank you, thank you, for this hope, Ross.
I think a narcissist despises weak people because they feel like they have conquered their own weakness. This is really detrimental when the narcissist is a parent and their victim is a child, because a child can't help being weak and vulnerable.
+barbara henninger This comment honestly perfectly descibes me as a person. If someone isnt outgoing or is shy, i just would rather to want to be around them.
barbara henninger Beautifully said.
They despise happy/joyful people as well.
How do you avoid getting into arguments with a narcissist?? They will leave you feeling insane because they will never take ownership of their faults. It's extremely frustrating!!
Refuse to have the conversation.
Broken record technique. Keep your comments trimmed down to a soundbite and don't allow the narc to derail you from it. When you start going crazy the narc views this as a sign that you love them. (It's really weird and twisted but the easiest way to understand it is to think of a child who acts out to get their parent's attention). You can also read "I'm Ok, You're Ok," a book about transactional analysis. Everyone communicates with others from the perspective of a parent/child/adult.. Depending on who they are in communication with. A narc will act like a child to get a reaction out of you. After you give them the "right reaction" they will think they have turned the tables (usually after you blow up) making them "the parent" and you "the dependent". Its super convoluted logic that I believe there might also be ties to ADD because people with that disorder will also engender fights to trigger their prefrontal cortex (via an adrenaline and cortisol rush). You also have to ask yourself what kind of narc you are dealing with? Is their narcissism fueled by an extreme underlying fear of abandonment? If so, there might be some level of an identity disorder at play which will keep the parent/child/adult roles ceaselessly shifting. In other words, if there is comorbidity involved, dealing with the narc (especially if they do not want any help) can get VERY complicated. It may even be time to move on if you are not equipped to A. handle it or B. Accept the position of lifetime narcissistic supplier/enabler.
Stop trying to prove your point.
Stop trying to prove your point.
Stop trying to prove your point.
I find it amazing to try to talk to someone that's a narcissist. Their lack of empathy makes them boring, also there's something missing when a person is a know-it-all and thinks they have the answers when all they are is obnoxious and don't know where they are missing it! If you try to explain it only makes them angry and it hurts their ego! They don't have time they're too busy being important which is only one dimension. It feels like they're missing the dimensions it takes to connect with people
I have a mother who is narcissistic. She takes over my entire life literally. Always putting me into false hope, denial, self-shame and guilt. She would claim to offer me support, only to put me down the next minute. Any friends and lovers I have are perceived as enemies to her. She always thinks I am plotting with someone against her, and I should oblige to the duty as a daughter to fulfill her entitled position as a divine mother.
I have lost my childhood, my youth, my education and my social networks to my mother because I believe in her getting better and I trust her. However, years of lies and belittlement beat me to the rock bottom, where I decide to see light within the darkest of days.
I am going to survive this.
I hope anyone of you who is facing narcissism would not give up. You have so much to offer to this world. Narcissists are not your entire world.
I feel you. Literally everything you have said is what I am going through. My mom is the same as yours. Maybe we can chat? Add me on Facebook or something, Bergen Clifford. Im from South Africa.
Helen Cheng
You are a wonderful person and the world needs you. Embrace the happiness and know this is not your fault.
Helen Cheng Thanks for sharing. I’m working on a plan to get away. I hope you have done that successfully.
I am a much stronger person now after going no contact. I hope you are going ok now.
I have just broken up with a covert narcissist. At least I believe she was. I have been watching many videos on the disorder and what happens to people involved with a narcissist. I am amazed at how easily I was sucked in but also when I was shown the patterns it has given me great comfort to know I am not crazy.
What really shocked me about the pathological covert narcissist in my life is the degree of passive-aggressive retribution when I SLIGHTLY called out on his inappropriate behavior. He looked for his chance, waited for the right opportunity to wreck my reputation and esteem in the eyes of the group (in this case, family) and went for it as hard as he could. No empathy, no loyalty.... revenge. Stunning contrast to his kind facade.
You are not crazy they are !
How long did you take to get over the abuse?
An example of malignant narcissism: I went to the doctor with my husband; he is a narcissist. I was given bad news; possible systemic cancer. We went from the facility to the car, at which time he stated: "I have to get a death policy for you." There was no support at all; there never is, but that was especially cold. I don't think he can begin to understand this problem he has; it hurts others. He has continually buried me before a final diagnosis. It is about him, not me. If anything, I can take the cancer better than I can the negative, selfish concern for himself and how it is "affecting him." Don't absorb; ignore, as Dr. Ross says. Thank God I have the faith I do.
the physical cancer is an outpicturing of his emotional abuse. He is a cancer on you.....just eating you alive....feeding off of your emotional responses to his cold remarks.
Dear Denise
I hope you are recovering from the cancer you wrote of in your post of four months ago. I wish there was a cure for that and for narcissists like your hard hearted husband. I do hope you are doing much better and will be blessed with good health again soon. May God keep you in his care.
Denise Horn Denise I hope you are recovering well. That is such a sad story.. truly heartbreaking. I hope you stay strong. May God be with you always
I have a father who would of respond like your husband. I’m so sorry you must be in shock. Remember it has nothing to do with you. Keep your faith in god strong ... 🙏they are the most cold hearted, non compassion people alive.
Denise Horn I hope you found physical healing and left that relationship. 💕 A metaphysical cause of cancer or chronic illness can come from emotional trauma. I hope you left your emotional abuser & have since healed both physically & emotionally.
The truth is that bullies are bullies simply because it works for them, and people who hurt others will make up any excuse in order to deflect responsibility. Character disordered people are not victims. And codependent people don't need psychologists to help them feel sorry for their abusers, they already are quite good at that.
To promote the fact the all bullies are bullies because they are hurt is simply wrong. The idea of a bully's motives come can come many different roots. It can be pottenttialy because they are hurt and they are continuing the cycle of bullying, or it can be just the rush of pursiing the seat of authority which does feel great. It can also be just because they enjoy themselves and an individual with a fixed personality and they assume there seat of authority. It can also be that they are just mean people, naturally. Bullying comes from many roots and it is wrong to just assume that all blullies come from the same incorrect origin.
Amen. He's overanalyzing Narcissists. Some ppl are BORN evil, bad seeds.
So spot on! my wife of 25 years is a narcissist. Multiple times she practiced infidelity and each time it was my fault. I kept feeling sorry for her and took her back 4 different times. The last and final time I set boundaries. Basically told her that she has sailed the ship for 20 plus years. Her ship has sunk and I'm the captain now. After about a week of that speech she baited me onto a verbal argument. Called the police to try and have me arrested. The officers told her no arrest and she freaked out. She left and obtained a protective order. my daughter and I were removed from the home. I challenged the order and in her testimony said how o broke a stick across her leg, constant physical abuse as well as mental abuse. my retort to this was I have no arrest record what so ever, while she has multiple. I told the judge do you believe that she would not have called the police if I was ever physical? I mean, she called the police for a verbal. The protective order was dropped. She moved out and back to one of her flings (who I might add successfully obtained a long term protective order against her). Good luck and good riddance to her! No more... I'm done!
i feel bad for her. if she keeps up, she'll end up alone for the rest of her time on this planet.
Still "done"? Hows it going now?
Joe Caruso wow that’s crazy good for you for getting your life back, wish you all the best to you and your daughter
Susan, there are two sides to each coin. Stop looking at him already (no sense in that anyway) and start the heck looking at Your part - the only part You can rightfully influence.
hello find a woman who truly loves the CREATOR and that has a personal relationship with him and dont settle 4 less than that
I just recently heard someone say, “ I realize, you have put me in position of power to make you happy, but that is not a course I intend to follow. Not my job, not my responsibility to make anyone else happy. That comes from within.
All the manipulation and control they do to make another person behave to make them happy.
They act like they have power, but truly the power is inside of you, and they fear that. That is why they try to destroy it in you ( or their victims).
What sad persons they are.
Thank you for your wise words, and empathy to help others see the light.
Thank you 🙏.
My ex husband and I were both in love. I was in love with him and he was in love with himself. That is why the marriage failed.
Ac76543211 ....... its impossible to compete with a third person in a relationship.......you were the third person (hope you can laugh about my comment) ...... i was with one 14 years (rollercoaster ride)
Ac76543211 That is just so true. I was married to one 2 months short of 35 years.
+Aishwarya Reddy Actually, I was not in love with him by the time I showed him the door due to his cheating on me, stealing from me, lying to me, He chipped away at my love for him, However, I still do not understand your reasoning and if you would care to expound upon it, I would love to hear it.
Yes, Denise G. You are entirely correct. I had to come to the realization that he did not love me to get the strength to leave him.
+Denise G I came to that conclusion too in my relationship, he hated me, to be honest i think he hates all women.
Thank you for this wonderful information. I have completely healed after much counseling and study in this area over a few years after being involved with one of these extremely ill types of people. I can spot it now a mile away, the love bombing, obsessive behavior and overreacting to tiny issues. Thank God for this exposure!
You can be confident without ego, narcissists are completely based on ego. You can be observant, intelligent, and moral with FULL CAPABILITIES to see low self esteem, manipulation, deceit, WITHOUT being any of those things. Narcissists are always self serving and are social, which means they are always competing, manipulating, self serving, so NO there is no such thing as a healthy benign narc. Go towards self acceptance, self love, and being who you are- you'll find your morals, you'll become sensitive to what is Just and Good, opposed to unbalanced and insecure people. And NO, it does not mean your a negative person because you can spot it. ( just as you can spot an obvious hustler, doesn't mean you are one ) Work on your character, have integrity in everything you do cause YOU did it, be proud of yourself when you make balanced choices, be honest (at least with yourself), don't be afraid of humility (it happens to everyone all day, everyday) and trust yourself.
Well said! 🙂
But why the- “be honest (at least with yourself)”
Just - be honest. Period.
This is the best talk I have ever heard about narcissism. Empaths are at risk, as are the naive.
How many narcissists dose it take to change a lightbulb
NON...they use Gaslighting
😂😂😂
It's rare to be able to see humour in a situation that is so grim - but you made me laugh, thanks!
Oh bloody hell. 💡💡💡💡
Good one! I came up with a joke about narcissists as well. But its not worth mentioning :D
i like this one!
Good one
I have been listening a lot to you and Lisa Romano and am encouraged to get proper coaching from a life coach/counselor. I am a single mom with two kids and i still have to live with my mom and siblings since i still need to save for my own place. I am continually challenged to make ends meet for my kids but I manage to provide for their needs like school and their needs in the home.Since we live with my mom, she is the one who apparently provides the food for us in the house and she buys some of the kids's food but this isnt something i impose on her or ask her to do. For years and years, she manages to make me feel like i owe her so much for taking care of me and my kids, for allowing me to move back in with her (since i tried to live on my own for awhile), for basically just living in her house and breathing in it. She and my sister consistently look at how I take care of my kids and just keep finding fault or look at what is missing in what i do. And if they help, it's like i owe them the world for it. They are constantly in my face and stepping on my boundaries--sometimes even taking my kids out without my permission, or doing things with the kids and not telling me. When i happen to do things i am passioante about like hike or go out with my friends , they make me feel bad for spending money on myself. I do allot almost all of what i earn for my kids but there is a good amount i allow myself to spend and they make me feel bad for it. Every time i manage to defend myself or state my side, I am shut down and none of what I feel is validated. My siblings , those who are blind to what is happening, think im the black sheep of the family and that i need help or something is wrong with me. I have managed to hold on to myself and do things i am passionate about for myself like singing and hiking. And i have managed to keep sane.But I am glad that i have come across your youtube channel because for the longest time i was made to feel that something was wrong with me. and that i need fixing. I guess i do need therapy but i am just glad that im aware that it isnt me and that I would know proper coaching from whoever will be doing it. and thank you.
Praying for you. My parents mad it unbearable. I went from a narcissistic husband to a malignant and covert parents.
They drove me out of the house and I chose to live in my car and their outdoor shed. Thank God I am in a domestic crisis shelter and am receiving help.
You are worth loving ❤️
Been watching every video on this topic since facing my moms NPD. . . This is a very balanced perspective, quite factual. Thank you sir.
He fooled me for almost three years wow!!!!! I believe I was a co-dependent I am just starting to recovery. I fell into a deep seated depression, Mentally, physically, and spiritually.
Ross, you are nailing all the most important aspects of the NPD individual. Thank you. I grew up in the long shadow of narcissistic abuse because of my mother. At a very, very young age I knew there was something terribly wrong in our home, and it was my mother. Three of my earliest memories are of my mother chasing my poor dad through the living room, pounding her fists on the backs of his shoulders and I remember her bitter, foul words to this day, "You goddamned shit-ass bastard!", as we three children sat on the floor playing, suddenly watching this horrific, live drama play out. The other time was when my mother for some reason cried, hollered and wailed for a short time, then gathered us kids and my dad all together to have us children make up our minds who we wanted to go with. Why? SHE had decided that the family was breaking up and so she sat us down for us little kids to make our decisions there and then. I could not have been any more than 3 or 4 years old. I remember the whole family were all crying, including my father, traumatizing us children deeply. I spoke up and said in my young voice, "I don't want to go with anybody", meaning I didn't want this to happen, I was frightened, and I was incapable of making such a heavy decision at that age. She was trying to force us to choose between parents. How can you do that to a small child? A third example of her abusive and shocking behavior was when she physically attacked my aunt, her youngest sister in front of the whole family who were sitting in the living room. The large country kitchen was in the room right before our eyes, and she pounded on my aunt until she cried and cowered from my mothers blows. All for being mouthy to my grandmother. I was so young, I thought this was a "spanking" and I remember saying "mommy spanked aunt Sheila", to which she snarled, "Yeah, mommy spanked aunt Sheila" in a tone very inappropriate to use when addressing a little child. But I still hear that voice. That was my early introduction to family life and it only grew worse and worse as time went by. I eventually went NC about 8 years ago. I'm 67. Many deep and painful wounds were buried but I've done the work to uncover all of it and I continue to heal from the damage. I now recognize that I had developed C-PTSD at least by the time I was 20 years old. I suffered from migraine headaches, self-consciousness, shyness, generalized anxiety, social anxieties, depression by age 16 or so, nervous body rashes, stiff muscles, bad nerves, tension, fears, lack of confidence, panic attacks, hyper-vigilance, mild agoraphobia, mistrust of others, failed relationships, a difficult job record for a few years, dissociative disorder and deep shame. I wanted to be invisible and I became quite a loner when I was young. To me, strangers were too threatening to be around and I thought no one liked me. I thought I was stupid and worthless. How could they like a person like me, right? I finally, finally felt whole again in the past several years but still, it's a battle to keep that "mother-in-my-head" out of my consciousness because her words still invade and attack. Thank God I have a wonderful, supportive, understanding man now and it's the first time in my entire life I've felt genuinely understood, validated and emotionally supported. He is my great love. I wish healing for all survivors of narcissistic abuse. My parents finally went their separate ways with a divorce when I was about 23 y.o., and my mother was to end up marrying 4 more times. She is still alive, in a retirement home, aged 94 in October this year. I miss her and love her, but I must stay away for the rage I feel inside still. I feel agonizingly sorry for her because I know she was abused but she will never speak of it. Never. She'll tragically take her secret pain to her grave.
This guy is the BEST I have come across in explaining the addictive dynamic between codependent and narcissist! And in general, describing the narcissist.
Thank you!
Omg, this is my mom. I need to have my sisters watch this
Same here . She conditioned me to be in relationships with narcassistic men unknowlingy. Look up narcassistic mother / daughter relationships.
Thank you again, Dr. Ross. It's amazing how unfathomable the Narcissistic mindset is to the non-personality-disordered mind. I know all of what you've shared ( THANK YOU for helping to educate me throughout your videos and materials available in your store ), yet it still blows me away hearing it all again. Thank you again for helping me ( and SO MANY ) heal, normalize and then move on after Narcissistic abuse ( and THRIVE again ). Bless you Dr. Ross. And THANK YOU !!!!
Thank you for being the first person to explain this without all the hurling of weird insults. You don't say NO CONTACT NO CONTACT. You don't say all the evil things I found on the Danu Morrigan site. You actually really do talk about what a narcissist is. THANK YOU. You truly have my respect.
Thank you Heather. My goal is to educate, not to demonize.
+Ross Rosenberg Well thank you, my family needed a no nonsense video to understand what my daughter is feeling. We all appreciate it. She liked it too. Thanks again.
+Heather Holt Sometimes no contact is the only option.
+Lavender Dorie I am sad that it comes to that but only if both sides don't give a little, if just one side of the equation would give in, in the name of love, there could pe peace but sadly it seems it is a case of no compromise when I hear of this "no contact"
+Heather Holt That is not the way it worked in my case, or that of many others I've read about. I begged and pleaded several times with my narc to get counseling with me so we could work out a reasonable relationship. Otherwise, I was under doctors and counselors orders to break off all ties for the sake of my sanity and serenity, as he also fits into the definition of psychopath, and this involved a family partnership that ended up involving corporate crimes that I wouldn't be part of. Every contact was toxic and disabling for me, and always threw me into a tailspin. I did everything possible, and I was the child, he was the adult, so it shouldn't even have needed to be me who went to him. He always said no, that he didn't need any counseling, but apparently I did, so I should continue getting it. He said he's never done anything to hurt anybody, and who in their right mind could ever claim such a perfect record? I eventually learned it's impossible to reason with an unreasonable person. So yes, there are cases when even though one side is willing to bend over backwards, no contact is the only recourse. I tried it in increments of less and less contact, until there was no other choice.
Wow.......I’ve been looking for your wisdom for most of my life, dear Ross.
I saw someone else thank you, and I want to thank you for being able to separate your emotions from your message. Many I've seen who call themselves helping other people in this situation often sound like they have yet to be much better themselves - hurling insults and more.
Thank you for being rational, practical, and neutral.
Brilliant and concise. I am currently legally separating from my narcissist husband of 30 years so I know first hand much of what you say in this video to be true. The part about sucking the life out of you over time is precisely what I feel at this point. However, I have been in therapy, and read and researched extensively about NPD. I am looking forward to peace of mind and just living a simple life, one that is fulfilling but without all of the drama and uncertainty and pain that living with a narcissist will surely bring. I am also working on my codependent issues because I know If I don't I am pretty much destined to fall prey again to another narcissist personality. Thank you for sharing your videos. I truly believe you know and understand the personality of the narcissist.
Isn't it great to be free of the uncertainty?
Thanks for the video. Only recently I realized my brother was a narcissist and that I was his main victim/target. He has been out of my life for quite a while now and since separating myself from him I have flourished far more than before.
Unfortunately, my brother will never see that he suffers from NPD so he will never change. I can only recommend that in the vast majority of relationships with a narcissist, the best thing to do would be to remove yourself from the narcissist, they truly are toxic people that will leech the life out of you.
I bought your book and will definitely enjoy reading it. I think you offer some great insights that will help many people.
I have the same situation. Thanks for sharing.
This video just set me free! Thank you, Ross!
Quite accurate and very articulate.
I went through love-bombing and then agreed to be there for my narc ex as she was going through divorce.
But I didn't subscribe to be a codependent, and when she insisted I started establishing boundaries.
She couldn't handle that.
Totally caustic and destructive incarnation of evil.
Cost me three years of my life, my job, a big portion of my money and mental and physical health.
I don't care if they don't see where the problem lies, they are the problem and it's not fixable.
Stay away from narcs, whatever stories they sell.
Run for the hill.
Let them deal with it. Let them rot.
Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge on this subject. 🙏
Love your videos. Thank you so much.
I just left a relationship with a narc who is 70 years old. I find it so difficult to understand how someone who has been on this earth for that long and is a very intelligent person, would not have picked up "some" insight along the way into their hurtful behavior. After so many failed relationships, people telling them over & over how hurtful they are and having heard the same critisism woudn't they have to have gained something? Apparently not.
A must watch!! I think what makes codependents like me value videos such as this is, is for every question answered I can relate with numerous instances for such tendencies from the narc. Videos such as this validate a couple of things... That I am not insane, that there is hope and recovery from the damages inflected, and we can put an end to this form of abuse - with boundaries and departure; because it is abuse in its true sense. Thanks once again for the re-enforcement and enlightenment.
This is the most accurate effective and helpful explanation. I love the humane way this video is done. So much better than the hateful vengeful videos that I have seen. Kudos to you for such a great explanation.
So far, this is the best at explaining the narcissist to me. I thank you for sharing.
Truly great video! Only people who had personal experience to deal with a narcissist can fully understand all of this. I had a narcissistic boss on my first job. Very elegant woman, great looking for her age (she was in her 50s), very fun, good sense for humor, intelligent..clients of her office liked her,then also neighbors (people who lived in flats near her office) liked her a lot since she always talked and joked with them,helped them..etc. So,in eyes of people who didn't Share Their Everydays and their Lives with her,she was an angel. But for us,her workers, she was worse from a devil. Same like for her family, children, son in law..She was never satisfied with her any worker. And she had tones of them,nobody stayed long to work for her. Working for her meant to go to home in tears, stressed, coming on job nervous, occupied with thinking in what mood she'll be when you enter the door in morning..For her,all her workers were overpaid since they didn't deserve that money, they were always stupid, slow, superficial, mean, ugly.. The same way she treated her children,son and daughter, her husband, her sister..nobody was ever good enough for her. Nobody ever had enough of courage to confront to her since she was too dominate,too manipulative and too bastard to break them. And in situations when she saw that she made them too pissed,she started to play a poor victim..and it worked every time.
The worst problem of all is that most of people,victims of a narcissist, Never Realize who they deal with,they don't even know for that "diagnose" and whole their lives they desperately try to find the right way for dealing with that person using the power of arguments, trying to prove and explain them things..but it is all useless. The only right way is; to Run Away and Don't Turn Around!
Profound statement and observation.
Can you be my therapist? This video is so eye opening. My wife just finally made me realize this morning that I suffer from NPD. I had no idea, I thought i was slightly normal and everyone else just couldn't see it from my point of view. I always knew something was wrong just couldn't pin point it. It's not easy for me to admit, but I would really like to be able fight this. I don't think i'm imprisoned to it. I refuse to let this run my life that I now know what's wrong with me. Thank you again for making this video. Im going to start looking for therapists that deal with type of personally disorder.
salute for recognizing it and your desire and will to do something about it. just that alone...you're healed and don't even know it. it's just a process to progress, from here on out. good luck to you and your family.
Wicked Moto. Hi, I think you are the first person (and I have heard many) who I saw acknowledge a problem with this. You have taken a big step toward healing....God bless you. Jesus will help you!
I am also coming to see that I am too. I am so in awe to see myself in such a different light. I feel hope that I can change and be happy. Good luck!!!
It's very rare that someone admits to being a narcissist, because most that are called out on it, deny deny deny that they have anything wrong with them..It's one of the their more prevelent character traits ; denial, blame & shame.
Maybe you do have it, maybe you dont. You may have a different personality disorder that needs to be diagnosed and treated.
Great to hear that you want to address your issues.. I commend you.
Good luck
Good news! We are all narcissist in one way or another, but it doesn’t mean that you are bad. In fact, I’d dare say that if you were truly a narcissist you wouldn’t acknowledge that you have a problem. True narcissists do not admit fault, guilt, or that they have a problem. We, of course, could all use a little more concern for the needs of others over our own needs, but that is natural and self preservation is a normal part of the evolutionary process.
Our culture celebrates narcissism 100%. Spot on and well said. Very informative video, thank you.
The world is getting darker.
All my ex could do was point out my flaws. All the time. And he always considered it an issue. He, however, downplayed or downright denied any flaw I pointed out to him. I never made an issue of his flaws, or commanded him to do something about it. I asked, but I didn't push it because I accept someone's flaws.
He was constantly projecting. Called me a liar several times, and I remember so vividly I always thought "A liar? But... I'm not lying? Why does he try so hard to make me 'admit' I'm a liar while I'm not?" And many other things I didn't recognize he pushed onto me, things I couldn't even relate to or didn't match my viewpoints. But he genuinely believed that was what I was thinking or doing.
He had zero reflection. I was constantly changing myself, improving myself, constantly doubting myself but trying my best. He had no hardships. He was thriving off my issues. But his lack of reflection tells me he isn't going to chance. Probably never.
It sucks. I miss him. But he treated me like trash. He cheated on me and dared to blame me for it. I know there are better people out there. I hope someday I will meet someone. Because right now I feel kind of lonely. I'm sure that's part of why he managed to conquer me. Sigh.
this is beyond TRUE, he hits the nail right on the head. hes good
This is so spot on!! Thank you. I thought I was going crazy and I finally realised my partner is a narcissist with bpd. You described everything perfectly. My life is a nightmare with him, yet it’s so hard to leave.
This was so HELPFUL....I am dealing with my sister who has destroyed our relationship and I've always searched for a reason why? I love her with all my heart however, I realize now what the issues is....she is a narcissist! I just pray the Lord will heal her and our relationship....
If she is anything like my narc sister, she will shift as she gets older. For 25 years my narc sister didn't speak to me. She triangulated her children and grand children against me. Very hurtful. Now that she is sick, older and feeble she needs someone to talk to. She needs someone to TRY and fall back on financially. I'm sort of okay with lending her an ear from time to time. But there will be no money exchanges because I do not know what is truth and what is a lie. Does she need my little money, or is she just lying. When I do talk to her, her conversation is always so strange and full of false memories. So I only allow it to go on just so long. I do love my nutty sister. But now I understand what the problem is. So thanks to Ross Rosenberg I only put up with her in small increments. Because she triangulated her family against me (I never retaliated), they as grown ups don't quite know what to make of me, right today. Her grandson made it out of her damaging clutches to become a Christian.
Thank you for putting out a video that finally defines narcissism the way it is
This message is ABSOLUTELY GREAT! TRUTH REVEALED! THANK YOU SO MUCH!
I love how you deliver your videos, easy to understand, no complex terms and words we cant understand, thank you for your video.
you have pinpointed what was wrongwith my last relationship. I spent years trying to understand what motivated him. I love him still, but like a hurting child.
jumping jobs is not a characteristic of all narcs.-- the ones i met stay in high money jobs, and flash their money around, and drive fancy cars. materialism is the focus.
YES!!!! Materialism IS the whole focus.my sis-who is the narcissist - has always had a good job.she has invested 40 yrs ' crafting' a FACADE (at her work). I'm seriously am thinking about exposing her publicly.and I think she will disintegrate.
Gorilla Twist....I've experienced two narcissists with two job histories. My ex-husband, ex narcissist, has had the same job for 16 years. He's good at what he does. This narc was the work a holic type and material positions were always important. He wanted to have the best of the best in some things. Buying things to buy someone's love was also something he did. He also over extended himself financially.
The second narcissist has had multiple jobs all of his life. He loves money sure and material items are of importance. But when one has a job you have to be on time and work under some management, rules need to be followed. This type of narc gets fired or gets offended if they're singled out over an issue at work. This type of narc burns bridges. They over extend themselves fincially. If possible they become reliant on someone that will cater to their financial needs.
Marie Halsey I have also met both types. My mother in law is the latter you were talking about. She never keeps a job for long and is horrible at managing money. She's always trying to get money from her ex and children.
Yes I agree I was the one changing jobs to try and find a sane place to live
Yes that s been my experience too
Calling the narcissist a drug of choice for the co-dependent , I like that. They can be as destructive and leave you as broke as some kind of hard drug. Now, that I think about it, far more people have probably lost families, homes, cars, jobs due to the drug of choice being a narcissist than to cocaine or heroin.
Yes. My narc was my drug of choice. That just turns my stomach. I am so glad to be 8 months NC.
Whoa
Ross... You da man on this subject! You've helped save my life. Thank you Mr. Rosenberg! Xoxo blessings and continued success!
Best video Ive seen with NPD. It doesnt shame people but gives understanding to why they act the way they do. I think we are all have Narcissm in some way. Nobody has a perfect childhood. I like the understanding of why people act the way they do.
I loved this video and all the comments.I needed this today.I've been dealing with narcissists- in my family all my life.I was abused they weren't.I always thought' man it must be nice not to have been beat down etc.' You know, to have some self esteem etc.NOW I know it was more than good self esteem.
thank you - very informative - your efforts are much appreciated. Please don't stop making these.
Excellent content. The best i have ever found about narcissistic traits so far. Thank you.
Thank you, Thiago. Please check out my other work at www.selfloverecovery.com
This dis order has to have some type of cure? Are there medical treatments out there? I feel so bad about my narcissistic family member. They are so totally lost. Makes me sad. Thank you for this video.
Narcissist's project their wrong doings onto others. So, they are victimizers who play victim. I would suspect anyone blaming a narcissists bad behavior on trauma either is or is being manipulated by a narcissist.
Truth Toby! I agree.
Toby Linville So True
Yep soo true
It is most likely caused by an attachment disruption in early childhood- please look into it
Why am I just coming across Ross Rosenberg now? Very helpful. Thanks Ross
It's so good to find a video on youtube discussing this topic without framing those who suffer from these ailments as soulless husks who's sole motivation is to watch the world burn. I understand the frustration these people can bring, but I see so many people that discuss this topic seemingly forget the underlying humanity that still exists in the them.
Really well structured video, thank you for your insight!
Hi Ross, great video. Your comments on 'how it is never enough' and 'they always want more', are very recognizable. I refer to this as him being a 'black hole'. All love, time and attention (and also money) is being sucked in, nothing comes out in return. Also i recognize that shame/emotional pain is a very big issue for narcistic persons, they have no clue what to do with this feeling. While anger is alway ready available.
I do disagree with you on the origin of narcistic behaviour. It cannot be only psychological trauma. If my ex husband had a trauma, it is really well hidden. His whole childhood he was catered for by his mom for everything he wanted and everything he possibly might need. Although they were not whealty, he got what he wanted. He had a very succesfull schoolcareer with many friends, was really good at sports. There were many many successes in his young life that could have healed the two events that he is still memorating as being hurtfull and shamefull. One of them was a disagreement with a teacher over what was the biggest star our milkyway (he was 10 or so). The other one a quarrel with some neighbor children that he and his friend could not win themselves and his father had to settle it. I think that most of us a have had to deal with a little more than this and yet we are empathic, giving human beings.
To what i have seen, there is a strong genetic component also. His grandpa had it. His mom has it. The ex fits all definitions of a covert. And also our youngest daughter shows many many signs of narcistic behaviour too.
For my daughter I want to believe that there is both a genetic component and behaviorial component in this. I hope i can learn her how to deal with shame and emotional pain in a way that it does not hurt the people around her.
Kareltje, have you read my book The Human Magnet Syndrome: The Codependent Narcissist Trap? You can find it on my website www.SelfLoveRecovery.com. It would be helpful to you. In it, I go into detail of the previous 4 generations of my own family explaining the transgenerational forces. I think you might find it enlightening. Best, Ross
I went through the breakup without therapy, and felt like I was dying physically. Emotionally I flatlined, which can be interpreted as such intense emotions it becomes white noise at full volume while simultaneously being so fried that you disassociate. I cried on and off for a year straight and was so easily triggered to cry-my emotions were just below the surface. The physical symptoms included constant nausea that was so intense I couldn’t eat and I lost 30 lbs. Also the sensation that my skin was peeling off in sheets from the inside out. I felt like I needed to puke everything inside of me out - puke out my soul. I lost my job because I had disassociated so severely that I made huge errors that cost the company thousands I never would have made in a clear frame of mind. For months I couldn’t leave my bedroom. When I finally became able to begin my healing I spent time in nature, and took up meditation and praying. I’m not even religious but there’s no dark night of the soul like recovering from a narcissist’s discard.
Wow I hear you ...Its true I really believe. Never mind the 1st time he discarded me-5 months of what u went through, like an idiot I took him back cause, lasted 4 months..last 2 months I'm no good at getting my life back....I confronted him 1 month ago when I watched videos on what he was .a Covert NARSACIST was but didn't listen To the just walk away video from this guy who is the best.
ii never heard about narississic until 4 months ago i could save my son and myself from the devil year ago if i had known.from a life of pure living hell.
After watching over 1000 + videos on Narcissism this video gives the most precise and concise definition of what Narcissism is I use it as my #1 abuse counseling video in my Ministry! Thanks
Thank you for providing such valuable information. I am an empathic co-dependent. Have broken off a 2 year toxic relationship with a Narcissist. I'm not in therapy as I'm currently unemployed. I find your videos and others like yours so helpful during this truly difficult time.
So glad this is helpful Jennifer. There are more resources in Ross's blog: humanmagnetsyndrome.com/hmsblog/
Projection. Ugh! Everything he (falsely) accused me of; stealing, sneaking, cheating, etc. he was doing. Every. Single. Thing. When Satan can't get to you, he sends a narcissist.
Signed.
(former) co-dependant empath with daddy issues
The narc in my life is simply draining. That's the best way of describing it. I'm in IT and he often calls me seeking tech help. I get to his apartment and almost immediately I am overwhelmed by his insistence on intruding and telling me what I'm doing is wrong or to not bother because he tried that already. I'm usually overjoyed when someone plays an active role with me in troubleshooting tech but my narc friend leaves me vibrating with utter frustration almost to the point where I feel sick. It's so bad, I end up crossing my arms and watch him further ruin the configuration or stumble his way through trying to fix it and if I interject with, "I think we should follow the instructions. That's how I approach my work" he flies off the handle and says, "what kind of tech are you? You should know all this already." It is very insulting and hurtful and infuriating. But I've managed to appear calm, cool, and poised while explaining to him, "if you think a techy person was born with their tech knowledge and Google isn't their best friend, then you best stay far away from the tech field as you'll go in circles trying to fix something that you think your brilliant and genius brain will figure out along the way. " It was said in obvious lighthearted tone although I was serious. He then responded in a typical narc fashion, "What on earth are you going on about? I have no idea what you just babbled about." I am often there for hours trying to sneak my way of doing things in when he's not looking but he always pounces on me when he thinks I am close to fixing it. He cannot give me the satisfaction of knowing I actually helped and helped doing it my way. On two occasions he eventually gave up only after I put on this act where I declared defeat and announced, "I am officially stumped!" That seemed to please him long enough to become distracted and allow me to fix the darn printer. He then tried as hard as he could to not notice I had fixed it and basically forget why I was even there. When I explained what the issue was, I said, "Part of the problem was your IP wasn't set to static, causing the connection to break when your printer was assigned a new IP. And about 90% of the problem was you." I then made it a point to chuckle in a very "I'm kidding!!" fashion. I'm not kidding when I say he then looked as if he were ready to murder me. He then proceeded to treat me like shit for the next week or so. Patience is my middle name.
They are wounded children that never grew up and you can never love them through it. Would love to see a video about 2 siblings growing up in an abusive relationship and why one ends up a covert and the other sibling does not.
Excellent recommendation. We are taking notes... thanks!
I was very wounded during childhood. Quite a bit, but I chose not to sell my soul to the 👿 Devil.
@@bonitasmith6064 Bless you & thank you. May I ask how old were you when you made that decision? I ask because I have heard on these videos that that type of decision is made very early on--before 7. Thank you if you allow me to pry.
@@adimeter I was raised as a Christian, and when the abuse started that opened my eyes to evil and never wanted to be a part of that. I'm an empathy and always wanted to help and make people happy from kindergarten until now at 61. Blessings to you 💯💪🙏
@@bonitasmith6064 Thank you for responding. That is so interesting. You made the choice at such a young age. God bless you.
I have just become aware that my 45 year old daughter suffers from NPD after 30+ years of horrendous abuse from her. I believe that this personality disorder was initially the result of being severely burned as a baby and seperated from me at that time for 3 months while she underwent treatment and surgery. However, her behaviour towards me has become so severe that I believe she will not be happy until she kills me - spiritually, psychologically and probably physically. This has led to my decision to break contact with her permanently. I have asked her to get help but...as you outline in your video...this enraged her more! A tragedy...wish I had known about this 44 years ago. Thank you for your video.
Oh, I'm only 5 minutes in and it's already helping SO much for me to understand the narcissist in my family. Thank you! It's hard to believe that the narcissist in my life really is full of shame on the inside, I have read many articles and some say they are really insecure deep down, and some day that's a myth.🤔😟
Great educational information doctor! Thank you.
My ex-mother in law was atrocious, she was conniving, evil and malicious. Not only has she got a few people wrapped around her finger she had me intertwined in it all. She used to betray me, rape me spiritually and connivingly trick me to do things I didn’t want to do out of pure fear. She’s evil. I’ve never met anyone more eviler than her.
Just wanted to share this with everyone so everyone knows what I went through. Thanks
+ Tu. I knew one like that. An evil parasite - hiding behind motherhood as if it made her a saint.
It took me 13 years to realize what was going on. I really thought I just wasn't good enough. And he still years later is destroying us most importantly the child he begged me for. He has destroyed my whole way of thinking. I can't wrap my mind around it.
It will take time. Keep educating yourself
how are you doing now? Im just learning this about my wife, STBX wife. 14yrs of fake. Not sure sociopathy or what. I guess just plain old malignant narcissism. cheated on me the whole marriage.
Mr. Rosenberg...you have NO IDEA how ecstatic I am to have ran across you on here. I have had pieces of you literature since 2001 when I put myself through rehab and are my treasures in life I always felt. Even to the point of pure panic mode if I thought anything had happened to them. Lol
I have spent most of my life searching for what is wrong with me. Why I felt the way I did. Why my marriage failed after 17 years to my best friend...my high school sweetheart...the father to my 3 beautiful children. Why my mother always would tell me "Carrie Lynn, you ought to be plumb damn ashamed of yourself" and to this day still does. I am almost 50 yrs. old. Three years from it. I have been single ever since my divorce in 2001 or 2, I can't really remember. How embarrassing is that? I honestly thought I was going to die from a broken heart. The one that I thought would NEVER leave me had left me. And sent me and my children back to the place I had ran away from when I was 17 years old. And to the person I ran away from. It took me 5 years to get away from there with my babies which were not babies anymore. And I was having a hard time excepting the fact the I couldn't turn back time to get any of those years back with them. But we did it. We got us a place and stayed for a little over 5 years. Till my Daddy got diagnosed with 3 different types of cancer at 75 and shortly after he totally retires. He asked me one day why my Momma would not come down stairs to be with him. I had no idea of anything comforting to tell my darling Daddy. And it hurt me to the core of my being. Not long after that he tells me that he don't know how he is going to pay his bills an all with the new medical expenses. It threw me. And with no hesitation what so ever. With no acknowledgement of myself or my babies. I said "Daddy, as hard as you worked for this family I cannot let you worry about money your last days on this earth. I will move back home and take care of things. "
Anyway...That was 2012...and my Daddy passed away 2012. I am still here where I ran away from WITH THE PERSON I RAN AWAY FROM.....where I was born and raised...where I was the youngest of 4 children with severe asthma...where I was molested by several ppl..........WITH MY SEVENTEEN year old son.....my baby.
I have to recover....I have to get away from here...I have to know what it is liked to be loved. ...to li e myself SO I CAN DEMONSTRATE THIS TO MY BABIES THAT GOD GAVE ME....SO I CAN SHOW MY 4 GRANDBABIES HOW TO LOVE THEMSELF TOO.
I am stuck in these 4 walls and I feel as if I am loosing my mind forreal.
Wow, Ross, you are the best at decoding the Narcissist, their patterns, habits, quirks, needs, effects and pathologies. This video is so clear in covering so many of the hot topics and buttons which elude us, while in discovery and recovery from Narcissistic Abuse.
I grew up in Winnetka, IL, and now live in Santa Fe, NM. I am both adopted at birth, and the adult only daughter of an aging Queen style Narcissistic Mother, with many very harsh Borderline traits, and a Jewish matriarchal lineage of severe depression and Borderline Personality Disorder. My Mom's Borderline fraternal twin aunts actually traded souls/swapped bodies, at the end of their life, with each other, the psychotic one, becoming philosophical and warm hearted, and the gregarious one, becoming hate-filled and embittered.
When People bring up "white privilege" I am always the first to counter that I grew up near where the film "Ordinary People" was filmed. Pain and suffering runs across all categorizations of socialization. My Mom was in community theater for decades. It was a great outlet for all her intensity, emotionality and need for validation. Three years ago I collided with one of her biggest betrayals to date, and started to learn that she really does not see me as a person, yet I suppose more of an appendage, object, prop, or possession. So while she is over 80, I have gone "no contact" most of this year. It is such a huge lesson, to learn how to make space for me to be whole and healthy, and honor that there is no hope or way to share or get health out of her, and it will only keep getting worse.
I had the blessing of my Dad, recently, who admitted, he doesn't know how I have withstood the abuse for so many decades, and to do whatever I need to do. Detangling, and getting my wholeness back from the lies, is a huge focus, with help from a local therapist, and these most awesome resources you and other genius guides and helpers share.
I am grateful for you, and so many brilliant Healers, Teachers, Authors and Guides. I just received some additions to my library by George Simon, Peg Streep, Sandra Ingerman, and Pete Walker. I have been a Hypnotherapist for 25 years working with Past Life Regression and QHHT, Quantum Healing Hypnosis Technique. Yet have opened to psychotherapy over the recent 3 years since my Narcissistic Mom's biggest and most dramatic betrayal thus far. I am grateful that, as challenging as it has been, that in her 80's she has shown me that she has the emotional maturity of a needy 4 year old. This is a good reminder for me to individuate fully at 53, while the going is still possible.
The reality that my Dad read Dr. Spock's books and has respected, seen, loved, and treasured me since my arrival, is such a sharp Grace based contrast with my Narcissist Adoptive Jewish Mother. My Mom has treated me as her main scapegoat for the last 43 or 53 years of my life, since my dad divorced her to secure his own happiness.
I say she always treats me like she feels like sh _ _, and it's all my fault. I feel like she is the last deeply unhealthy human in my life. Seeing her dysfunctions for what they truly are, and healing my hand-me-down shame, blame, pain, fear, grief, rage, hopelessness and helplessness, and the hand-me-down internalization of the old Jewish Ghetto of Russia, Poland, Vienna and so on, is such a healthy leap for me.
I look forward to reading your books, and continuing to learn, share, guide, empower, and receive guidance on this transformational path. This video is kind of like vitamins for the soul. It's very core and essential to the healing process. I plan to come back and listen to it over and over. Thanks for being the honest, open, clear, shining star: blessing that you are.
Much deep transformation and encouragement on the journey to my fellow survivors! May we turn this world around towards unity, love, compassion, empathy, healing, wholeness, joy and purpose, step by step by step!
I love what you share, Ross, in your video, "What Exactly Does Happy and Dysfunctional Mean? Redefining Mental Health" th-cam.com/video/jZqAnUXJVuE/w-d-xo.html . After decades of being shamed, blamed, discounted, devalued and denied, it is dear and encouraging to be reminded that self awareness, self responsibility, willingness to feel and allow one's true feelings, and an openness to inner and outer resources, guidance and help are all healthy human attributes, and stubborn clinging to being right, control, fear, addiction, blame, shame, and unwillingness to look within, ask for help, or express vulnerability, are all key ingredients that lock in, and perpetuate Narcissism emotional irresponsibility and Narcissistic abuse!
Thank you so kindly! You are an encouraging force for good!
from Greek mythology, a man named Narcissius spent all his time gazing at his reflection in the water of a pond so the god zeus turned him into a flower - that is how we get the english word and meaning.
DID YOU GET MY EX GIRLFRIEND'S PERMISSION TO MAKE THIS VIDEO ABOUT HER?
TheCalifbozo funny
lol lol lol :)
The comment was funny, but it was extra funny because of the all caps!
Don't be silly Califbozo - Ross didn't make this video about your ex - girlfriend, he made it about my sister!
TheCalifbozo lol
My husband has poor relationships; no true bond. He immediately went to every person he could and told them of my situation. He needed the "pity"" for himself. Not one of them called me; they never have and never will because the family is torn down. But, he needed the "supply" for himself. It is terribly inappropriate and short-sighted of him. Prayer; a positive attitude; not hovering with constant comments as though I will die today would be nice! They cannot see because they are so busy spinning within themselves with constant worry about themselves. It is truly sad.
I am saving this video to show the people around me that dismiss what I know about narcissism. Many thanks for the upload.
Wow. As a co-dependent who has been with someone with NPD for several years, I can say this video is spot on, and the last part describing the pain of leaving the narcissist without seeking therapeutic support is completely accurate. As someone who has a history of addiction and recovery, your analogy to withdrawal from an addiction was extremely resonant to me. Even though I knew the person I was with was making me suffer and lacked empathy completely, I still felt empty and lonely when she was no longer there. This is a great video that was helpful for me in learning about myself and my recent experiences.
Really appreciate you. Thanks so kindly for your support and attention to those of us breaking free! I want to get your book-and attend a conference or webinar.
Seven years of marriage . Finally I have a name to everything happened to me . I am free.
thank you for being you!
I am so happy to find Ross Rosenberg, he is right on , on everything he says.
This is great. Thank you. I have been exposed to a raging narcissist my whole life. They are something else indeed. They have an insane egocentric view of the world. EVERYTHING relates to them. It's the craziest thing to witness. Especially when they are constantly trying to coax an emotional reaction from people with the most innane statements. It's an absolutely bonkers performance!
Peace and love to all the brave souls exposed to narcs. Just remember you are the strong ones, they are totally imbalanced.
I hate who they are, but I do feel sorry for them. Its so sad that as a child, they were so damaged, that this develops.
that's the thing - giving up compassion altogether for them - its like being dragged two different ways at the same time
Eurovision 2015 mad suggest that you check out EMDR. most bpds stem from CPDST
Eurovision 2015 mad complex post traumatic stress disorder. complex because it's multilayered. childhood injuries compounded by the choices those injuries caused you to make. like marrying an abuser working for an abusive employer putting up instead of walking away. these are all choices stemming from learned helplessness acquired due to trauma and neglectful parents
Eurovision 2015 mad You might just be a psychopath or sociopath, with narc traits ...
You hate us? Well we fucking hate you. Probably too weak to keep up or something. Don't feel sorry for us because we'll probably be your boss for the rest of your life. You're the one who sounds like they have a poor self-esteem and are "empty" inside. My childhood was perfect and I'm still this way. Just because humans have the ability to feel empathy doesn't mean we have to. Why would I feel sorry for someone who means nothing to me when I could disregard your existence and keep on moving up in life? You should study how alpha-wolves are established. I'll tell you one thing, it doesn't happen by being a pussy ahah. This shit is just too easy man. Y'all are dumb and misinformed af.
I like what your dad says cellmate not soulmate.
Narcassism is not developed solely from abuse. The abuse factored in as a variable. There are plenty of these entities that had a safe upbringing and still have a support system they abuse regularly. These people are just evil. Too many "disorders" used as reasons when these people are just plain EVIL.
SeAnna Tastic ....I agree. I appreciate all these video's and agree with so much of the info since I kept a close eye on my sisters husband for years. I easily started connecting dots about what little I learned year after year since he has kept me away from my sister in many ways she still doesn't see. Then I learned what a narc was and that was the final piece of this puzzle! All my previous thoughts about his odd (to me, since I love my sister but she loves and trusts him more, which keeps her blind) behavior have been verified by the details taught about covert narcs. behavior. But I still see too many 'clinical' excuses which are also legally protecting these attempted murderers. Yes, this is basically what they have done for years as explained by devastated victims both financially devastated and emotionally traumatized (along with innocent children!). Look at the facts about laws. A person caught with a pound of cocaine or crack can spend years in jail. But a spouse who learns too late about NPD will still lose in family court no matter how much circumstantial evidence they have. Every good covert narc knows how to increase their odds to beat the court. That's why covert narcs never hit their spouse for years. Even if they do, by the time their broken down victim learns what these demons are, the bruises have long ago healed. Meanwhile, their victims savings has been mostly spent too. What victim can prove with receipts their spouse has thrown away , that their spouse has spent their victims money on? Last I checked, casinos and prostitutes don't hand out receipts for money handed over. Same for money that narcs have hidden away over the years. My sister has contributed over $750,000 in gross earnings and an inheritance. After 15 years with this narc, she is so brainwashed that she doesn't wonder why she has no money! He has naturally told her it's all tied up in investments. Their combined income easily allows them to retire. Yet she mentioned recently "I want my next job to be so much less stressful". Next job!?!! She's over 50, and still believes she needs to work 10 plus more years even though she had no children! Meanwhile, her narc makes all the spending decisions. Just wait if she ever wakes up and wants a divorce. Odds are she will lose in court. She can easily be the next financially wiped out victim facing the cold hard reality that she will be working until the day she dies and living in a dump apartment too. No wonder so many victims experience ptsd. They have to come to terms with the fact that their best years were all one big illusion! Meanwhile, many of these narcs simply move on and live comfortably with all the stolen cash. I've read enough comments from victims too. Something is very wrong with this. Also, dead victims (murdered, heart attack, stress induced suicide etcetera) can't text!
+seAnna. Yes - there is a spiritual aspect.
Whispering Acts oh I agree!! I certainly did not abuse my son when he was little!!! His dad did not either!! We were divorced like half of all families today!! In fact his dad was a jerk (I always called him) hence I could not live with him!! Best thing I ever did in my life
The last narcissists l met had an entitled childhood, grew up in mansions, but were sexually abused in their private school. The father gave them no boundaries, they were applauded for bad behaviour by not being accountable. They had a sense of entitlement. Brothers, one was overt the other covert. Both ignored by their wealthy relatives. Living on the streets, l got them a house before l realised that they were narcs, the agent won’t let them sign another lease so they will become homeless again. They are truly ugly people.
Amen, there IS a Spiritual component. In fact recovery from SLDD in my experience requires a higher power. At any right you're correct and some have never been given limits or boundaries, have been enabled. Possibly they experienced no limits + abuse & or neglect. It's complex. It's not necessarily our mission to grasp. We have more than enough to do to stop enabling and protect ourselves and recover. It should however be better understood and more carefully studied!!!
You have literally saved my life! I have been on the brink of losing my mind and ending my life. After searching for answers I’ve listened and can relate to almost everything you’ve had to say. It ALL makes sense now! In 30 minuets you’ve just explained exactly what I’ve been going through. I’ve gone through hell and back with my ex Narcissistic partner. Drained all my energy... I didn’t even know who I was anymore. You are absolutely correct when talking about the loneliness you experience after a break up. Nothing like I’ve ever experienced before. I am stepping up and I’m going to get further help. I need to find myself again and make sure I don’t fill the void with another Narcissist Man. This has changed my life forever. Thank you