Steel vs Nylon String Guitars!
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- Back with they Nylon Nymph himself, Andres Colin, to run down the differences between nylon and steel-string guitars. We're just talking about our own experiences learning on each, along with some sound examples and distinctions you'll have to make between them. Make sure to show Andres some love on his channel:
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These guys seem to be like the type of friends that won't leave you behind when you get wasted.. Nice vid btw lol
Leave no man behind!
Exactly! Haha... Seriously though, thanks for the vid. I already have a classic guitar and was a bit hesitant on if I should get myself an acoustic guitar or not since someone's giving me a deal on an acoustic Takamine. Thanks to your vid I have a better understanding between the two. Thanks a lot!
@@VDUDE01 yeah but Sean Daniel said in an video that using a Capo ITS for posers or kooks! I dont know about that! The Best percussion Fingerstyle Guitar players in the world like Alexandr Misko, Lucas Stricagnoli, Kelly Valleau, Fabio Lima,v Eiro Naireth, etc, just to mentioned a few , they use a Capo in almost all their arrangements. Lucas Stricagnoli uses An spider capo AND sometimes two ir three capos in the same neck like Alexandr Misko!
I'll go with nylon 99% of time, for me the tone is so much better, I have a DiGiorgio since I was 10 and I'm amazed everytime I play
Such a great sound.
Sai daqui brasileiro!! Kkk
One major difference you didn't mention is that classical guitars don't have a truss rod. I've seen so many people make the mistake of putting steel strings on a classical guitar and whenever I see it, I silently give that guitar its last rites. It won't be long until that neck is bent like a scorpion's tail.
Good call Jeremy!
This is not true... I have two classical guitars and both have truss rods for adjusting the neck relief. However, not putting steel strings on a classical is a good idea, but for different reasons. The tops and the bracing is different and will not stand up to the string tension of steel strings.
Fine. CGs typically, mostly, more often than not, usually don't have truss rods. Better?
I think perhaps that might be true. But, many, many classical guitars do. Yamaha, Cordoba, Takamine, to name a few have truss rods. When you are talking how many, and talking volume sold, I suspect the aforementioned outsell the classicals that do not. There are many independent luthiers who have truss rods as well, and there are some who use carbon steel reinforcement, and carbon mesh... So... Unless it is thoroughly researched, which I don't plan on doing...
Some modern classical guitars have truss rods....but it is ok for me if my classical guitar does not have one...because traditionally they do not have one..
I've saw several videos comparing nylon string and steel string, and this is the most easy to understand and unbiased one. Great job!
So glad it made sense!
I started with a classical and then bought a nylon Yamaha NTX700, which I love. I play predominantly 70's and 90's folk and rock and dabble in jazz standards, so people shouldn't think that a nylon is only for classical or flamenco. The neck width of the Yamaha is the same as an electric and a steel string. The one advantage I found with a nylon is that the string tension on a nylon as a lot more akin to an electric than an acoustic steel string. I'm not sure why, but no one ever seems to mention this.
Great addition to the conversation!
The Yamaha NTX700 is a prime example of a 14th fret classical. The neck width, however, is not the same as an electric. It is 1.889"... It is smaller than a classical which is 2" (sometimes just a slight bit over 2"). But, it is easier for electric guitarists to make the transition to classical guitars with a slightly narrower neck. That is why Yamaha and Takamine made necks a slight bit narrower... Well, that and there is money to be made. :)
@@vechap Yes, what I meant is that the neck of the NTX700 is a lot smaller than a classical. It may not be 100% the same as an electric, but to me it feels very similar. My electric is a standard US Strat.
Although I enjoy the sound of an acoustic steel string, I still haven't managed to find one that I like playing. In saying that, I haven't tried out many steel strings, so any recommendations would be helpful - specifically one with an easy action.
Yep, that is why Yamaha made the neck that way. :)
In terms of acoustic steel string recommendations. Generally, if there is nothing wrong with the acoustic, i.e. - top caving in, or warped outward too much, bridge being pulled off, twisted neck, damaged frets, etc., then you just need to buy a guitar you love the sound of.
Then take it to a luthier, or tech that has a good reputation and have the action set for your liking. Also, string type makes a difference. 12s are generally what come on steel string, but there is nothing to stop you from putting 10s on it... Of course, string change type generally needs a slight adjustment of the neck to counter the increase, or decrease of tension, so proper neck relief is maintained. Changing from 12s to 10s, there will be a difference in sound, but it is not that big of a deal, especially if it is an acoustic/electric and you are playing electrically. Minor details!
You just have to go with what you want to hear. Also, once you build up your hand strength, and finger callouses you will be able to tolerate higher string tension. For example, you start out with 10s and at some point you can move on to 12s. However, really, it doesn't take that long to become used to 12s... Hope that helps.
Just transitioned from a Steel string to a Nylon String Acoustic and never been more satisfied ! The warmer treble tone gets me all the time.
I like both - sometimes I am in a more mellow 'nylon string' mood. Great to have Andres as guest!
Always good to have Andres on.
I have both, and although I primarily use a steel string, I find the “slap strum” on a nylon a lot more satisfying. When I started, I was told to get steel string; although it would hurt more in the beginning, the calluses grew in faster. This was good advice for me. Also, request for a Sean/Andreas video; can you guys run through your NEVER PLAY PLAYLISTS?!?
We still need to do that!!!
Clearly one of the best videos on this topic. Thanks.
Thank you for playing Flamenco style on both! No one does this when comparing nylon vs. steel strings! Awesome comparison!
Love the content with andres, it feels like you guys have great chemistry!!!
He's great :)
fingerstyle - nylon
strum - steel
good rule of thumb
thanks. This vid is a great help 😊
I started with a steel and I always played fingerstyle my nails are so fucked up
Wrong
Tell that to the OG guitarists using gut strings ahahah
I had no idea that guitars have types,.. i bought a guitar with nylon strings expecting the sound of an acoustic guitar with steel strings and now i'm crying
Really not trying to be mean, being the beginner is really tough... But that's kind of what you get?
Make sure to look into it a bit more next time! :)
Didn’t you do research before buying an expensive instrument?
Did you at least test it in a guitar store?
@@musiccer7446 I didn't 😭😭😭😭 I just went into the store and told the guy I want a guitar 😭😭😭 the only thing I knew was I wasn't buying an electric one, that's all😭
@@jogailejurkonyte4746 I sure will lol, thanks
@@chocolatywafflesareawesome7092 lmao why was I so rude a year ago? So sorry
Started my guitar journey with a classical guitar (a friend gave it away to me), then I've bought a new one which was also nylon, but with a neck of an acoustic guitar (Some sort of a Fender), then moved to an acoustic and electric guitar. I liked it at first because I've started when John Mayer released Born and Raised and at that time he was playing nylons a lot, so it felt cool to get that sound. But in the end, after spending time with an acoustic, I can't see myself going back to Nylon unless I really need the sound that it produces.
I like classical better since it’s a softer and if you want a more acoustic sound use a pick
I hear you.
So true!
Bella YourFella thats why im just gonna buy a classical lol
Also loving the new camera angle implementation
That's all Andres, the camera madman!
I love this combo, I want to join these two for beers and soak in all there guitar knowledge
Thanks for watching!
I am into metal music, but I prefer the nylon guitar. I own an electric guitar already, the steel guitar isn't that different, so when I wanna go acoustic I prefer something different
Also I love the spanish vibe to it
Check out metal riffs without distortion, there are some very cool videos on youtube by guitar TH-camrs showing clean versions of metal riffs, thrash, death and black metal, it sounds like Flamenco or middle Eastern guitar
I started playing Classical/Spanish, took music classes for years, only later I began playing electric guitars. So I also prefer nylon guitars
Hi Sean, love your vids. What are some things to look for when choosing a pickup to install in an acoustic guitar? The amount of variety out there makes choosing one without prior experience seem daunting.
Excellent information. It may seem redundant to listen to but the message coming across is what is important. I have both steel and nylon string guitars. The steel is a 70s Fender Villager 12-string, the other is a Hola! Music Classic nylon string. I practice most of the time on the nylon classic but play on the 12-string for serious work. What is important is you enjoy what you are doing and appreciate what sound each guitar gives. There is no such thing as the "right guitar". There is only the guitar you like to play.
Love both of you guys!
Thanks so much :)
I just love ALL strings...especially the ones you guys play
Thanks so much!
Loved the video. Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
This is perfect! Acoustically I like Nylon but electrically I like steel
I have a Taylor steel string (317e) and recently purchased a Taylor Academy 12 with nylon strings which I absolutely love 🙂
Just a little detail. The Cordoba C7 guitar was probably made in Paracho, Michoacan, Mexico. It has been a center of luthiers for 400 years.
Appreciate this guys thanks
Nylon String Acoustic Guitars feel kinda like Electric Guitars with lower tension strings and easier action so beginners will love them.
I got both, and I am happy I got both. Different, yet both very nice.
And yes nylon, being a very living material, tends to move a little more. So more retuning needed, there are tricks to shorten how long it takes for them to "settle" enough to make tuning easier but still.
But hey, they are lovely, such lovely strings on such lovely guitars. Sounding so lovely.
And the steelies? I love the sound they make, mmm, they just sound better with certain music.
Hence owning both, for certain music go with the nylon, for other music go with the steelies.
Sean's next musical video should be him playing a rock guitar solo on a banjo
Cool video.Thanks for sharing.
also nylon strings are '12 fret guitars', because the neck meets the body at the 12th fret instead of the 14th, which makes everything closer together and more ergonomic. Huge difference I didn't notice for a long time.
Great call. I'm actually gonna be doing a video on 12 fret acoustics very soon!
Lucas Furseth I never noticed. 18 years man
haha very cool Sean! I'll be watching. Keep on rocking in the free world
This is not true either... To name a couple that are 14th fret... Yamaha and Takamine both make a 14th fret guitar... Probably many others.
Really pertinent video for newbies and the uninitiated as I count myself. Can't believe I'm saying this but, 50 yrs ago I fell in love with House of the Rising Sun on a nylon string guitar, with no comprehension that acoustic instruments used steel. The nylons were murder on my fingers, I recollect (likely I was over pressing). I learned a basic no. of chord's, but no extra love for the instrument as I played grade 7 piano and grade 3 flute, so it was all about curiosity!
I met a Tanglewood in a second hand furniture shop with a damaged sound hole but astonishing timbre with only two strings : low E & A., (otherwise the body was in great condition - like my good self 😊 needing tlc) I bought it for £15 restringing with Earthwood then D'Addario bronz covered strings. The sound of those two strings captured my heart and now I really want to learn guitar, but it's not easy age doesn't make it less challenging. I prefer to use my fingers as exact pressure is what's needed the way I play I guess and strumming steel with my hands - my nails stand up to it and I'm not necessarily light handed. However, I do now have picks and it's mind bending and different😅 but it is a joy growing in knowledge.
This video is the first time I can fully appreciate the steel vibe, despite being fully accustomed to it now. I thought I still preferred nylon. The reality is I can appreciate both now! I own the Tanglewood and a Chord, both steel strings. I find the from new Chord really intuitive though there is no real timbre, it speaks to me from its case, in my hand and to my heart, but ideally I need a smaller, more accommodating guitar shape and size (I believe).
Currently learning about nylon string instruments - now I really appreciate why guitar players collect and get through so many instruments, weird though it still seems to me!
This is soo cool
Sean are you younger brother of PewDiePie? Lol
If only in my dreams.
@@seandaniel23 yeap lol
🤣🤣🤣
Pewdipie checkmate
Thx for the video guys. Yeah I would fret a lot on the width of the neck. Although the steel strings bring those calluses faster, the stretch you need to develop on the classical nylon guitar is quite a deal breaker. Steel guitar players are often dumbfounded with a 5 fret chord on nylon...
i love this guys
I've watch quite a few of comparisons and this so far has been my favorite. Doesn't seem to have any bias which a lot have some. I find my fingers give out on my steel and my wrist gives out on my steel, I'm coming from baritone uke, so nylon, and narrow fret, harder for me to do a bar chord on the steel though.
Try putting ball end nylon strings on only the thickest three strings of a steel string guitar.
Much, much easier to play, and the steel wound nylon strings sound brighter for longer than the steel strings themselves. Best of both worlds.
Such beautiful guitars
Thanks so much!
Good stuff you guys
I have an electric acoustic just like that one. I never plug it in. Can i put nylon strigs on it?
Great information 👌
Thanks so much John!
Sean, I think you would like a nylon string thin line fusion guitar man. The first one I played was the Ibanez AEG10NII. It's a hybrid. Built like a steel string, but has nylon strings. There's a bunch of other brands that do these but, I'm getting one soon because I need a nylon guitar. "Coughing" strings last way longer. Like, years, instead of months
I own two steel string acoustics, one is acoustic electric, I can't wait to get a nylon guitar as soon as I get enough money !!!
So did I hear that right? Steely Daniels is going back on tour; I needs me some tickets.
Coming to a town near you!
Got one coming in September!!!!
Very informative, I went with nylons, I liked the sound more.
Oh man, being a beginner on steel strings, taking me back. Learning bar chords literally took me putting duct tape around my pointer finger lol
So as a beginner can I start with nylon strings guitar cuz I already have one and I don't want to change it ?😅
of course
yes, i started with a nylon string guitar and never switched to steel string. this is mainly because i play classical which is mostly for nylon
Hi, I have a question: Im a weak intermediate player, have been fingerstyling with my acoustic for a while, but I really love the sound of a classical guitar. Never tried playing it, and my question is this: if I buy a classical and get used to it, AM I GONNA BE STRUGGLING TO PLAY ACOUSTIC IF SOMEONE SUDDENLY GIVES IT TO ME AND ASKS TO PLAY SOMETHING?
No
I started with steel on a electric guitar. I got an acoustic guitar that has nylon strings. I didn't put them on. It just came with them on.
nylon is great!
I like both. Which naturally means I NEED a nylon string guitar now.
Sir i have a acoustic guitar with steel strings and it hurts my fingers. So can i put nylon strings on steel acoustic guitar. Can you please share your valuable suggestion to me😢
So tell me this, I'm taking some lessons on classical fingering and melodies but am really stumped because I'm getting a yamaha silent my problem is should I go with nylon or steel. If I'm playing classical songs the spacing may be critical to learning I don't know. I love both and have for decades but never owned a nylon.
Interesting... I never actually knew what the difference was between these two.. wondering what they were like, etc. but that’s cool :3
Are bar chords easier on nylon string guitar compared to steel string guitar?
i have steel string for accoustic guitar is it okey for me to change to nylon string at the guitar?
GREAT INTRO
I am a 2-year beginner/intermediate. I have a classical that was a gift from a Latin-American friend. The neck has been a stumbling block due to its width and the size of the frets. I know I don't have small hands, but at 76 maybe they don't stretch out as much. The guitar I play the most is my Epiphone Casino Coupe. Full hollow-body electric. Beautiful sound, but not the same tone as nylon. Any tips on how to work up to playing classical? I have had my eye on the Godin nylon (pricey for me).
I subscribe to both of your channels. Very informative and fun, but together, you're a riot!
It was mentioned in the video. Classical guitar thumb placement differs from acoustic or electric. For classical the thumb is posted at the spine of the neck and your fingers will be in a C formation. If you try to hold a classical like a narrow acoustic or electric you'll never reach the lowest strings.
Seems like people tend to play the steel and nylon strings differently. Nylon string players use the silence in between notes for effect.
Ever listen to the Ventures, Shadows, or any instrumental guitar tracks? They are personally my favourite since I can't sing
Honestly I don't listen to a lot of instrumental guitar stuff, but I should start.
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I say get one of each. Maybe 2 or 3 of each. 👍
Which one is better for corridos
Which should I choose guitar for beginners
Great video Sean & Andres. I like them both but will stick with my steel string since I can't really play anyway..................... :)
You're a rock star Steve :)
Keep at it Steve... Gotta start somewhere... Practice makes perfect they say.
2:49 whts that song
Personally, I'd rather have an acoustic-electric nylon guitar :) It's easy on the fingers plus the body isn't as big as the typical classical guitar
I agree. The Godin one I've used before is great.
I’m thinking about learning how to play guitar and was wondering what would be a nice brand to get for beginners?
I actually think the yamaha acoustic are really good for the money.
Sean Daniel thanks for letting me know what would be good for my money
@@seandaniel23 yeah for under $500 Yamaha is the best.
I'm a steel-string player; but I've been interested in getting a nylon-string guitar for playing Jobim/bossa nova and the occasional classical piece like Satie's Gnossiennes. But I'm a little scared off by the 2" nut width. Are there decent nylon-string guitars with a 1 3/4 in nut width? Any reason why one should steer away from them?
As mentioned in the video a classical player holds the neck differently than an steel acoustic or electric. Thumb placement of classical lets you reach on those wide nut/neck that an acoustic or electric thumb placement won't allow on a classical guitar.
Which one sounds good between a steel and nylon strings??
I just received a vintage Castilla guitar. I did research and says they were manufactured with nylon strings. It however has steel strings on it. Should I switch it back to nylon to avoid anymore damage to it?
Yes definitely. If it already has damage like a bent neck etc then you should take it to a guitar store with a good reputation. I'm not sure if yours has a truss rod in the neck but basically at the top there will be a little hole type thing or a panel covering it. A truss rod is what keeps the neck in shape and you can adjust it to fix any damage. Some guitars do not have this though and classical guitars like that often don't.
Still having trouble finding out if my guitar is acoustic or classic. I mean it's an old guitar from 1975 with classic guitar shape but with 43 mm neck and marked frets ( 5 7 12). It also has 18 frets, not 20 like most guitars have...
classical will have 50/51mm nut, so your is acoustic or it could be a nylon acoustic type hybrid...that is the all the rage now a days, not sure about 1975. But does it have a truss rod? A classical will not have one but acoustic or hybrid will.
7:42 under the bridge by red hot chili peppers :D
The Nylon string fits more my personality, warm and mellow
I started playing on a steel string, barely played anything else, I love it and my guitar but now in wanting to learn music with those Spanish finger picking techniques it just looks so much smoother on a nylon, I think its time to get one
Congrats on the upcoming nylon purchase :)
Question : I still don't understand ,If I used steel strings to a classical guitar ,does it become western ?
Not Really, the body is also different. If you put steel strings on a classic guitar the neck will bend and break eventually. Buy a complete western guitar instead
Sean, why TH-cam sped up your voice to 1.25?
Ok but technically, if you put your fingers at the same place/same frets, whether you're on a steel or nylon, you'll get the same chords, right? Like, the pitch is the same on both guitars? (I'm obviously asking cuz I'm not a guitarist yet XD)
Yup! It'll be the same chords and notes, just a different type of sound.
@@seandaniel23 Awesome thanks! You two rock by the way! I'm subscribing! 😀👌
Is it just me or i feel like u guys look like u had a bad or awkward moment before filming this 😂😂??
yess samee i felt that as well 😂
If u just a starter buy the nylon one can help u much and it wont hurt just a little bit if u pro now now buy the steel one
Some really great points brought up here and beautiful flamenco playing.. ¡Olé! For the beginners out there, (it's mentioned in the video but just to elaborate slightly) it's worth noting that the width of the neck on a nylon string is wider than that of a steel string so you'll need to learn to stretch your fingers that little bit more. Shouldn't be a problem for most but if your hands are particularly small then maybe a steel string or an electric would be a better option. On the other hand (not literally, in this case!), this could also be considered a pro of the nylon string because it allows more room between your fingers to space them out and fret the notes of a chord more comfortably. For anyone interested, you can find another perspective on the same question (nylon versus steel?) th-cam.com/video/50cdU54ILWk/w-d-xo.html. Thought it would complement this video nicely and hopefully offer some more useful information to the guitar community out there. Thanks so much for the video 👍
A whole step higher?! Not if you value your guitar. Nylon, all the way. Love the banjo reference (steel string = banjo).
:)
I like nylon better but didn't really experience one till I was twenty or so. I started on my brother's steel string Yamaha when I was about twelve and played that till I was eighteen almost exclusively and I was so glad when I finally bought an electric once I was eighteen...(a Hondo Explorer copy and a Yamaha amp). I've experimented with classical a lot and once saw Sharon Isbin live in Shreveport Louisiana and she was amazing (hmm...1992 I think...wow). I have a nylon string with a cedar top. A lot of players play the high frets by planting the thumb at the join of the body and the neck stock. It works quite well actually.
Thanks for watching Doug :)
Abuebo queremos escuchar clasical music, dont get me wrong steel is rockin!
Correct
the dudes r great guitarist
Nylon warm sound for me
Can some
one please tell me the riff at 7:42 minutes
Under the Bridge by the Chili Peppers!
nylon is my favorite
Coño those are nice guitars.
Thanks so much!
I'm seriously considering buying a steel string guitar but I don't want my half size nylon string to get offended
Trying rumba flamenco on a steel string hurts 😢
Fact
What are acrylics? 4:50
They're 'fake' nails you can apply to your fingertips with adhesive.
I started with metal string
Agree with you here.
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Thanks for sharing.
love nylon . especially after watching lucas brar
can you put nylons on an electric or would it sound like shit?
🥰
Can i put nylon string on an acoustic "steel stringed" guitar?
Short answer is no but I might talk about this on the QA.
I did. I have a cheap acoustic guitar, bit I've installed nylon strings so its less tension and avoid breaking my guitar
I did. I have a cheap acoustic guitar, bit I've installed nylon strings so its less tension and avoid breaking my guitar
@@JayHeartwing oh really?? How does it sound
@@patrickjan7896 It did kinda sounds like a classical guitar, giving it a deep mellow tone, but losing the bright feeling that steel strings provides. Plus, it gives me an easy playing all the time. Also, since nylons are tie-end, i need to make a tie loop on their ends then, first they gave me a hard time installing them. I need to press the pins down while tuning them cause they could easily come off. And they do take time to get them in tune^^