TRANSFORMERS: THE BASICS on THE MARVEL COMIC

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  • @bilal_Hadjlaoui907
    @bilal_Hadjlaoui907 2 ปีที่แล้ว +593

    "Offlined by cosmically-powerd-starscream","offlined by decepticon clone of optimus prime",one of the most memorable catchphrases ever

    • @natek4488
      @natek4488 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      At this point, it's pretty much a running gag in this series

    • @Megatronus58
      @Megatronus58 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I completely agree with you

    • @TheRealHiboman
      @TheRealHiboman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Don’t forget my favorite: “beast flesh and transformer metal fused at the cellular level”

    • @bilal_Hadjlaoui907
      @bilal_Hadjlaoui907 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @King Crab he even offlined a decepticon members like the seacons

    • @bilal_Hadjlaoui907
      @bilal_Hadjlaoui907 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @King Crab but in the collectors club sequel to the Marvel comics,they back to life and get a power up repaint (this version of the seacons was supposed to be a part of the energon toyline,but its released as a collectors club toy)

  • @garyphillips3406
    @garyphillips3406 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    I loved the final cover saying "Issue 80 in a 4 issue limited series".

  • @miffedakko9312
    @miffedakko9312 2 ปีที่แล้ว +263

    One of my art teachers, Kim DeMulder, was the first artist to ink the marvel comics. He only inked the first 3 issues because he thought it was way too hard to consistently shade the metal on the characters. He told me he regretted it immediately because he actually got payed way more than any other comic he's ever worked on.

    • @zemox2534
      @zemox2534 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      That's cool

    • @rickyrackey7930
      @rickyrackey7930 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Nice.

    • @WhatDillionYT
      @WhatDillionYT 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Awesome

    • @ThayneGill
      @ThayneGill 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If he had a time machine, I bet he would go back and change that decision.

  • @clogs4956
    @clogs4956 2 ปีที่แล้ว +132

    Let us all thank Bob Budianski and Simon Furman for their skill, inspiration and creativity which gave us the foundation on which so much more has been built.

  • @HughMcKinney
    @HughMcKinney 2 ปีที่แล้ว +167

    The comics are MY G1. I liked the cartoon, but obsessed over the comics and read them over and over. To this day I am astounded at what Hasbro let Bob Budiansky get away with. In 1985, when Transformers were at arguably the peak of their mainstream popularity (during G1 at least), Budiansky spent months telling a story where all but one Autobot was dead and Megatron was reduced to Shockwave's lackey. It's bold as hell for a comic whose ostensible purpose was to sell toys.

    • @silverthorn9759
      @silverthorn9759 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I agree about the comics being my G1.

    • @TAURON85
      @TAURON85 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Dude, Shockwave being on par with Megs and even surpassing him occasionally was a welcomed thing, oppose to the puss he was in the toons. No doubt that Marvel comics was/is the peak of the Transformers franchise.

    • @Halbared
      @Halbared 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      the rivalry of Shockwave (and he was drawn) and Meg's was a highlight for me in the early days.

    • @seantaylor424
      @seantaylor424 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      From what I've heard of commentary for G.I. Joe episodes from the 80's, Hasbro was surprisingly lenient towards their writers. Toys came and went but, as far as what kind of stories the writers wanted to tell and how they wanted to characterize people, Buzz Dixon said Hasbro let them do whatever they want. Very glad to hear it, since things like the Marvel Transformers comics are always a blast to hear about and I love me some Bludgeon.

    • @ThayneGill
      @ThayneGill 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s how you know he and simon furman are writer, they raise the stakes, and I’m not talking about meat.

  • @arnahunas4048
    @arnahunas4048 2 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    That Shockwave cover is one of the hardest pieces of comic art ever.

    • @kyledamron
      @kyledamron ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Definitely my favorite. Like it so much got a t-shirt of it

  • @HappyBirthdayRoboto
    @HappyBirthdayRoboto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    When I was a boy Simon Furman's comics were the first I ever read for myself (instead of my parents reading Super Friends to me) and not only did it make me fall in love with comics but also science fiction and serialised storytelling in general. Many years later I got to meet Simon Furman and I told him he's the reason I read books.

  • @ShinGallon
    @ShinGallon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The cover of #5 is one of the best comic covers of all time. Not just TF comics, ANY comics. That cover was my first exposure to Transformers: I'd never heard of them before I saw that issue in a grocery store newsstand when I was 8, and I was immediately pulled in: Who are the Transformers, why are they all dead, and who killed them? Suffice to say I was hooked after reading it, and when the cartoon came along later I went full-on superfan.
    The Marvel versions of so many characters are my favorite versions of all time: Ratchet, Blaster, Shockwave, Ratbat, Scorponok, Fortress Maximus, (Powermaster) Optimus Prime, Grimlock, Thunderwing, Galvatron...all of these characters, the versions I think of first are the Marvel versions. Especially Blaster...in the cartoon he was just The Other Jazz.
    To me the Marvel comic is the definitive G1 experience: It's written better than the cartoon, it came before the cartoon, and most of the lore we take for granted in the franchise began there (Primus, Unicron's origin, etc.). And if you factor in the UK stories, it gets even better. That it kept going for years after the cartoon ended is a plus. The cartoon may be better known, but to me the Marvel book is THE G1 continuity.
    Plus Black Helmet Yellow Eyes Megatron and Marvel UK colors Galvatron > their Sunbow colors.
    Andrew Wildman/Stephen Baskerville's art was very formative to my own early art: I loved how damage a character had in one issue would be consistently drawn even several issues later, and Geoff Senior could convey movement and momentum better than anyone. Those two remain my favorite TF comic artists even to this day, though I love most of the modern artists as well (Alex Milne and Casey Coller especially).

  • @kingmarshmellow12
    @kingmarshmellow12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Titan Books’ republication of Target: 2006 was my first, real introduction into Transformers, and has been my favourite storyline since! It’s great to see the influential story referenced on such an influential channel!

  • @MartyTwelves
    @MartyTwelves 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    The Marvel series has always been my preferred version of Transformers. It swung from Saturday morning cartoon wackiness to epic adventures, and I love all of it.

    • @Da_ComputerMonster
      @Da_ComputerMonster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I can't imagine how one must've been to go from a series with something as cheesy and B-Movieish as the "Carwash of Doom", (Which I have a softspot for),
      To then get something as Biblically Awesome as
      *_"THE CHILDREN OF THE GOD OF LIGHT, PRIMUS, FENDER OF THE DARK GOD, UNICRON-"_*

  • @Soundout12
    @Soundout12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    The G1 Marvel comics are honestly my favorite piece of fiction in Transformers. I just love the storytelling

    • @kyledamron
      @kyledamron ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Could not agree more

  • @verzieditz
    @verzieditz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I was at free comic book day today and had the honor of meeting Jim Shooter. he basically gave me a Basics episode of his own, but was so cool to hear the story of how he created the basic fundamental story ideas for the comics

  • @MellowGaming
    @MellowGaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Man, the Unicron saga in the comics was proper epic stuff as a kid. Felt huge and the following issues were such a memorable conclusion. Did set me up with the expectation that comics do have endings though which good lord modern comics could do with from time to time.

    • @ltb1345
      @ltb1345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Only manga have actual endings nowadays, lol.

  • @MeuchelArren
    @MeuchelArren 2 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    The marvel comics have always been intriguing to me because for at first glance it seems the cartoon is what later media based everything off of yet a lot of elements (shockwave, matrix, primus, war games, ect.) actually come from the comics

    • @Wolfie1262
      @Wolfie1262 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      And if you pay attention, Beast Wars using bits of both the cartoon and the comics in its world building

    • @musicfighter282
      @musicfighter282 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It should be mentioned that the Creation Matrix as Budiansky originally envisioned it was quite different from what the Matrix of Leadership would end up solidified as, even looping around and retconning itself within the comic.

    • @pious83
      @pious83 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@musicfighter282 Exactly. The Creation Matrix is more a program for creating new Transformers. It was an interesting concept in itself.

  • @chheinrich8486
    @chheinrich8486 2 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    Simon furman deserves a basics episode of his own along side Peter cullen and Frank welker

  • @chocobosage
    @chocobosage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The Unicron arc was amazing and DeathsHead quickly became my favourite character. I still hope he gets his own show or movie one day, such an amazing character and just the way he speaks haha

  • @bilal_Hadjlaoui907
    @bilal_Hadjlaoui907 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    the fact that most of the characters profilres that written by bob budiansky was ignored by the g1 cartoon,make it even funnier

  • @PhantomHarlock78
    @PhantomHarlock78 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    The first two years of Marvel Comics are amazing. Transformers in their pure form, with a lot of plot points. Shockwave behind the scenes, the human interactions, Autobots and Decepticons trying to use the Earth technology. And, different from the cartoons, the Autubots were always in the brink of defeat, having a hard time every issue.

  • @robotlorekeeper9880
    @robotlorekeeper9880 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Honestly, this is one of the most helpful basics to date for me, I’ve been looking forward to it ever since it was announced. Even as someone who’s been a die-hard fan a couple of years now, I still didn’t fully understand what was going on with the UK-original stuff and Earthforce- a lot of longer-time fans talk about it as though everyone already gets it, or they over-exaggerate how confusing it is, so I was kind of scared to even look. This series is always incredibly good but every so often it just inarguably knocks it out of the park, and this is one of those times. Thank u mr mcfeel

    • @ltb1345
      @ltb1345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The UK comic is still kind of confusing, but I guess it's retroactively an alternate timeline.

    • @GluttonyReaper
      @GluttonyReaper 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Totally agree, I've always been reluctant to even *try* reading any of the marvel stuff until now, this is the only place I've ever seen it properly spelled out like this!

  • @Firebrand128
    @Firebrand128 2 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    I honestly had no idea the UK Transformers comics were so influential, not only to Transformers but to UK comic writers as well. Really eye opening.

    • @jackdubz4247
      @jackdubz4247 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      TFUK was the best.

    • @paulgraham4567
      @paulgraham4567 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@jackdubz4247 Still the best.

    • @jackdubz4247
      @jackdubz4247 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@paulgraham4567 Indeed.

    • @SymbioteMullet
      @SymbioteMullet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      More than meets the eye opening?

    • @Halbared
      @Halbared 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jackdubz4247 I concur!

  • @TheYoungDoctor
    @TheYoungDoctor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    My cousin gave me issue one of the UK comic although I didn't start collecting until issue 45. It not only got me into Transformers but also comics, writing and drawing. It will always be my favourite Transformers continuity.

  • @robertespley248
    @robertespley248 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Ah the happy memories of reading the old Marvel UK comics, such epic storyline and perhaps Ultra Magnus's most epic baddass moment ever (fire on the mountain) .
    Simon Furman & Andrew Wildman deserve a spotlight all of their own

  • @rexemuwu
    @rexemuwu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Marvel Blaster is my favorite version of Blaster. dude is the only Autobot who had balls to tell Grimlock that his leadership kinda sucks lol.

  • @Karnage316
    @Karnage316 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Used to get the comics as a kid, and reading Space Pirates and Time Wars for the first time stood out for me - one of the few Transformers covers I remembered when thinking back to them much later on was Galvatron standing on the pile of Autobots and Decepticons. When I re-read one of the annuals recently, the story of the death of the last Decepticon was a good one too!

  • @crownprincesebastianjohano7069
    @crownprincesebastianjohano7069 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Simon Furman's win on the main line series was amazing. I think the last 20 issues of the first series were remarkable. The lead-up to the coming of Unicron was better than anything the cartoon series came up with.

  • @saorlathesurly
    @saorlathesurly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Something I've noticed about geewunners who love to go off about the seniority of the cartoon; they're incredibly quick to write off these comics, even though they're literally the very first piece of Transformers media.

    • @tomnagy3010
      @tomnagy3010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Not to mention the superior storytelling. The cartoon is just a toy commercial.

    • @sdm47
      @sdm47 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@tomnagy3010
      Well not really. When you watch the cartoon you can tell that the people working on it cared a lot more than they had to
      But yeah the elitism shit is a problem

  • @wreday720
    @wreday720 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Man the Marvel comics were like a massive epic. I feel like the comics had the better stories while the cartoon had the better characterisations (probably because of the voices).
    So many moving parts, characters, worlds, it felt huge and like an actual war with different fronts like earth, the headmasters, the future era characters, earthforce, the cybertron war, constantly changing leaders, the wreckers etc. There were a few periods where it dragged and felt weird, but everything from Underbase onwards was incredible. It just got darker and darker as things went on too. The matrix quest and Unicron sagas, just amazing.
    And wow, dont even start with the UK stories, so many sidestories and twists, the concepts from the movie being played with heavily (you can tell Furman loved it) and really fleshing out the 2006 cast. Target 2006 was the GOAT
    This feels like the real G1, and in a way the '86 movie feels more connected to the comics in tone and story than the cartoon. Cartoon had so much going for it, but ultimately it has more lows than highs. Plus the comics were one of the only pieces of media that actually did the "robots in disguise" gimmick, not even the toon did that, and having tension between humans and transformers, it just felt so real
    Its such a damn shame people focus less on it, it deserves some kind of animated adaptation or something

    • @chriscox3227
      @chriscox3227 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yes to an animated adaption! Like the 90s X-Men cartoon did! Never thought of that, but now would love to see it made!

  • @roclockdown3987
    @roclockdown3987 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Love the Wreckers! Gotta appreciate the Marvel stories for making them happen.

  • @Starcat5
    @Starcat5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Ah, I remember the Marvel run. Not as it came out, but in boxes of second-hand comics, mixed in with Excalibur and all four issues of Rocket Raccoon. I also remember when I attempted to subscribe to the Generation 2 line, only to receive the first issue of Generation X! Which as a fan of the X-men at the time, wasn't a *BAD* thing, but being pre-internet days it took me a few months to realize that I had missed the Gen 2 run completely. ¡_¡

  • @spaceknight074
    @spaceknight074 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Oh my this is the epic story telling i mention when speaking about transformers lore, I mean Time Wars, Space Pirates and my personal favourite Target 2006, which is where i began my appreciation of Ultra Mangus. I mean these run of comics were amazing, Grimlock's tyrannical leadership of he autobots, The many changing of leadership of the decepticons (i mean who else could make Ratbat look like a leader....come on, but it worked). my favouraite combiner The Predacons were from this very comic, Razorclaw being my personal favourite.
    So much here......ahhhhh, good job with the video

  • @MikhailSamunin
    @MikhailSamunin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    8:18 I read U.S. issue 50, and, though it wasn't the most jaw-dropping experience, it defifinitely delivered a memorable feel of reading pages of non-stopping deaths that included quite a few familiar transformer names all while I was listening to Igor Korneluk's "Woland".

  • @gamerbear84
    @gamerbear84 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As the cartoon never aired on non-cable TV here, the comic was my main touchstone to the franchise narrative. I still have a good bit of the run tucked away somewhere and they were a major part of my childhood.

  • @enclavehere.7995
    @enclavehere.7995 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm reading through these comics right now, and man it is so hard to wrap my head around the idea of the Autobots addressing Prime like "Oh, great Optimus Prime!" or "All wise and powerful Optimus Prime!", especially from characters like Bumblebee or Iron Hide. It just such a strange detachment from how the Cartoon characters treat each other. In the comics (at least from what I've read so far), the Autobots treat Optimus like a god or a king, but in the cartoon they treat him like a friend, or even a father.
    Edit: ok I’ve read every issue including Regeneration One, and it was breathtaking. I wish I could read it all again for the first time

  • @Stewart118Tyler
    @Stewart118Tyler 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for this one!! Made me legitimately smile. The very first comic book I ever owned was Transformers issue #3. My Dad got it for me one Saturday afternoon. Walking down Jamaica Avenue we walked into Woolworth and when I saw that cover of Spiderman fighting Megatron, fell in love and have been ever since. Great episode!!

  • @DrPoth
    @DrPoth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I grew up reading the UK comic, starting around issue 200 or so, thus missing around two thirds of the stories, but the stuff I did get to read by Furman was amazing and still holds up to this day as an adult. Plus all my issues are sat in the attic still!

  • @visionaryventures12
    @visionaryventures12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I liked the final issue saying #80 in a four issue limited series.

  • @rvaldrich
    @rvaldrich 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You know, Chris, I frickin' love this channel and the series. Watching these videos on Saturday morning...or afternoon...really is one of the highlights of my weekend.

  • @SwordInTheStorm
    @SwordInTheStorm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I remember getting issue 1 of the Uk comic It came with free rub on transfers soon after I was getting the comic delivered to my door, my favourite stories have always been the the UK originals Like Target 2006 and The cover Image with Galvatron Astride Ultra Magnus is one of my favourite Covers ever.

  • @dinosoid2000
    @dinosoid2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It also had a cameo by Nick Fury and a vague reference to the events of Marvel's Godzilla comics.

  • @Rodsuper
    @Rodsuper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The series on the Scraplets was always my favorite from the US Marvel. Great piece of TFs Marvels comics.

  • @MojoTheClown
    @MojoTheClown 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The Marvel comic was a huge influence on me, and remains so to this day. Marvel Scorponok is my all-time favorite Decepticon, and the Marvel versions of Grimlock, Ratchet, Shockwave, and Thunderwing remain the definitive versions to me.

  • @ExaggeratedElegy
    @ExaggeratedElegy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Ah, my entry point into the franchise! A little later on than some, of course, but I do recall my earliest exposure to the Transformers was the comics and annuals. Have distinct memories of the early Time War stuff, in particular being freaked out by Megatron tearing off Cyclonus's head via his bunny ears.

  • @Hektols
    @Hektols 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I found really hilarious the comic where Megatron was stuck in gun form, it showed how useless it was an alternate form that required others to work, the only useful thing he could do with it was to travel in the cabin of one the Decepticon jets.

  • @Badwolfwho1
    @Badwolfwho1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Ah Cosmically Powered Starscream, above all else I'll be thankful to the Marvel comics for introducing that recurring beat for various Starscreams to hit. I also absolutely love fuel auditor Ratbat as leader of the Decepticons that's great fun

  • @THANATOS-PRIME
    @THANATOS-PRIME 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I was a little kid my dad gave me an old beat of comic and it was the one that showed Optimus Prime’s body exploding.
    I absolutely loved it and it was my first introduction to many generation one characters such as Bombshell and Rat Bat.

  • @nilesbrook4216
    @nilesbrook4216 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    When Marvel decided the Transformers comic would not be part of Earth-616 it was given the designation Earth-91274 after the birthday of Marvel staff artist Nelson Ribeiro, who is a Transformers SUPER-Fan (and who also happens to be me!)
    Now you know, and knowing is half the … Ooh, sorry. Wrong franchise.

    • @gavichealsomething2169
      @gavichealsomething2169 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I mean,didnt they use that same line in some of the Transformers PSAs?

  • @mauigio
    @mauigio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i LOVE the old Furman comics. The story was great LOVED the Wildman art, have most issues, have the full G2 set. Just LOVE THEM

  • @samanthaadams619
    @samanthaadams619 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Transformers were a large part of my childhood, and continued well into my teen years. There were some wonderful stories in the series. "Return to Cybertron" is my all time favourite 2-parter, and I feel it had a certain magic to it, showing visions of a dystopian Cybertron, as well as the follow up in which Omega Supreme is introduced. I'd even go as far as the say the 85 - 86 period was a Golden Age of sorts. I also liked Skids spotlight issue where he is alive and well, and spending time with the girl that liked westerns. I also liked the one where Skids, Tracks and the others were introduced, and they foiled a Decepticon plot at a "Brick Springhorn" concert.

  • @mellowshade
    @mellowshade 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thinking on it I wonder if my enthusiasm for Transformers would have been sustained through my teens without the Marvel UK comic. The continuous excitement for the next issue maintained my enthusiasm and I still make time to regularly re-read the series.

  • @LogosMinor
    @LogosMinor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    As a kid in the early 2000s the Titan reprints were my first exposure to Marvel Generation 1. While not my favorite iteration of the franchise, there's no denying it's significance and I've enjoyed some of the modern stories set in the universe like Regeneration 1 and '84 (that sweet, sweet Guido Guidi art man). Another great episode as always!

    • @tomnagy3010
      @tomnagy3010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes! Guidi is the best TF artist EVER!

    • @Da_ComputerMonster
      @Da_ComputerMonster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Im pretty sure Guido and Don get into Cosmically Proportionate Wrestling Matches over who is the best TF Artist

  • @Kryojenix
    @Kryojenix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Geez - reading the letters to the editor in the US comic you'd think the Primus origin story in the US version was a new idea.
    We really had no idea and were a totally segmented and captive audience, hey?
    ... I think I learned the word "geez" from TF comics ...

  • @anotherrandommegaman2345
    @anotherrandommegaman2345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Really need to get back to finishing these comics.
    It's interesting to see more of the nuances between how a franchise was exposed between the US & UK.

  • @michaellombardi1620
    @michaellombardi1620 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My childhood! Australia got both the US and UK comic! Good times

  • @krank23
    @krank23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    The Marvel comics were always the "true" Transformers stories for me. They were the ones I came into contact with first, and had the most reliable access to. And today, I definitely feel those stories hold up better than the cartoon. The cartoon's stories feel less developed and a lot less mature - understandable, as it was targeted at a younger audience. The comic got pretty dark and serious at times, and I loved that.
    It's just too bad current reprints are so horribly bad. Especially for the earlier issues, where it seems they've used some sort of really bad AI filter or something, that completely eliminates a lot of the detail of the original comic. I strongly recommend looking up the Titan Books reprints for anyone who wants good reproductions of the old issues; they were much more careful in preserving details etc.

    • @ltb1345
      @ltb1345 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Agreed, that's why I prefer the comic over the cartoon as well.

    • @Kickback-dm7zt
      @Kickback-dm7zt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ltb1345 cartoon for me with the exception of the 10 part story "Target 2006"...if you haven't read it I HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT. it is darker and more gritty style to both the writing and art work.

    • @zacharyjochumsen9677
      @zacharyjochumsen9677 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ltb1345 and I found a in issues under my granpas culborc and I was like wait a second transfomers was from a comic book huh and it was random bet up issue whre transfomers wre in the wokds trying to hunt a deception strike force

    • @Hektols
      @Hektols 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had the theory that the cartoon existed within the comic universe, created by the Autobots' allies as propaganda to get accepted by the population.

    • @Sbungo61
      @Sbungo61 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean, in the cartoon Megatron literally disassembled Optimus laughed at his still alive head. Also, the transformers being originally factory products to be sold is quite dark for a cartoon, and definitely darker than the comic's origin

  • @rexzex980
    @rexzex980 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So happy to see the marvel comics covered!!! Its such a wild era but very unique. Thank you!!!

  • @osenator
    @osenator 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Still have all my complete original series, including G2. My name is in issue 62, I think. I was first on the Canadian list of people whom named all Autobots correctly from a earlier comic in a big Panel splash, with all Earth Autobots.... Sadly, didn't win any prizes, only to USA residents....
    PS, Geoff Senior was my very favorite artist ever !

  • @UnamusedClerk
    @UnamusedClerk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The Marvel comic (or rather the Swedish translation of it) was my primary entry point into the fandom. Not having cable growing up there were only a few scattered episodes of the cartoon available, so the Marvel continuity is the original one for me. And it made me a devoted Ratchet fan.

  • @GuzziHeroV50
    @GuzziHeroV50 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a kid I never really watched the cartoon, but by eck did I read the comics. It wasn't afraid to have the bad guys lose, or to show some pretty graphic violence at times. A lot of moments will always stay with me: Scrounge's death, the City of Fear arc, Scraplets, the Mechannibals, Underbase, Brawn vs Starscream battle and of course the ridiculous size of the Pretenders ;) Absolutely loved it!

  • @stephenhumphreys9149
    @stephenhumphreys9149 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember reading 'Man of Iron' back when it came out, and I agree - 'Haunting' is the word for it. That particular story always stuck in my memory, although some of the others like 'Dinobot Hunt' were also big favourites of mine.

  • @djbarnette4871
    @djbarnette4871 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I got into transformers thanks to beast wars but my dad grew up watching the '80s cartoon and reading the marvel comic book and would often tell me about the toys and the stories from both which prompt me when I was older to look at the comic issues that he had collected when he was young. I thought it was so cool to see Spider-Man in an issue of transformers

  • @em-rl4ig
    @em-rl4ig 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great video Chris! Right in the feels. I can remember coming back from swimming in Arbroath and my Father had bought me the first issue of the UK comic - it's burned into my neurons. I'd love a Cybertronian Optimus like the first issue, all wonky-ass robot mode and alt-mode that's like a box on wheels (kinda MMC like now I think of it).

  • @cromanticheer
    @cromanticheer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What timing! It's currently Free Comic Book Day in the States!

  • @musicfighter282
    @musicfighter282 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was a bit of a late bloomer coming into the TF fandom (I really got my start with the first live action film when I was 17). When looking for foundational TF media, I happened upon an ebay auction for the complete set of Titan paperbacks reprinting the US Marvel series. It was sometimes extremely hokey, but I fell in love.
    I later read the UK series through… means…. And enjoyed that so much that I eventually embarked on a quest to collect every UK issue and annual, and have them custom hard bound. Those books are now the crown jewel of my collection.

  • @RoboP
    @RoboP 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A thing I would've added is with the Marvel run stuff.
    You touched on G2 after the end of the Marvel G1 runs, you did bring up the GI Joe Crossover earlier.
    But no mention of the small few issues that DIRECTLY lead in to events of the Transformers G2 comic??
    Like namely Megatron getting rebuilt in to his Tank form Incarnation with Cobra tech.
    A couple of Autobots dying trying to fight him ect.

  • @Grimlock1979
    @Grimlock1979 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The comics are what I grew up with. I didn't watch the entire cartoon until many years later.
    The comics have much more mature storylines but a few of them are still ridiculous.

    • @clogs4956
      @clogs4956 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, but admit it - you like the Mecannibals 😉

    • @Grimlock1979
      @Grimlock1979 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@clogs4956 Sure, why not.

  • @vustvaleo8068
    @vustvaleo8068 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    meanwhile in an alternate timeline we have the Autobots and the G.I.Joes joining the fight against Thanos in the Avengers movies, lol.

  • @JohnPannozzi
    @JohnPannozzi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think you should have mentioned that Denny O'Neil also helped developed Transformers, and I think he almost wrote/edited the Marvel G1 comic, but passed the duties on Budiosky.

  • @Mecha82
    @Mecha82 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    In here we got US version translated and I loved reading those stories back as kid. I still have fond memories about reading Marvel run even if I have been soured to Simon Furman and his writing.

  • @risel56
    @risel56 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    While I never got into the Marvel Transformers comics, I've always been fascinated by Death's Head as a character ever since I found out about him, and part of me kinda hopes he'll show up on The Basics in the near future. He'd be a shoe-in for his own Obscure Characters Month episode, yes?

    • @martl8615
      @martl8615 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There's enough on Death's Head to make a miniseries. I love that he encountered Dr. Who, which means that The Doctor shares the universe with the likes of the X-Men.

  • @EvilLobsterKing
    @EvilLobsterKing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've just started getting into some of the IDW comics, but it's cool to learn the history of where it all began

  • @sebastiancasas115
    @sebastiancasas115 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i woke up... Kinda sad cause i have to work as every saturday... Kinda sad because im from argentina and this country its kinda "burning out"... Then i made my coffe, my toasts... Opened TH-cam... PLOP! Chris Mcfeely with a video about Marvel G1 bringing me back to life.
    GREAT video as usual!

  • @Transfixed
    @Transfixed 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is so helpful. I didn't read any TF comics as a kid but just recently read the whole run, and dabbled in some of the UK stories. Altogether it's pretty convoluted, but as always, you managed to present so much information in a remarkably clear fashion!

  • @kennethchia4194
    @kennethchia4194 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As someone who moved from the United States to England for two years in 1985, I got to see how the British comic developed firsthand. IIRC, in the biweekly issues some of the pages were in black and white, which also threw me for a loop.

  • @TF-MP-Stop-Motion
    @TF-MP-Stop-Motion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For as much attention as the cartoon gets, the comic was arguably more influential on the franchise, as this video makes obvious! I appreciate you spelling out the changes that happened in the UK line towards the end!

  • @jasonwolf3591
    @jasonwolf3591 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a kid I would be given random comics from time to time so my first issue was the Skullgrin spotlight issue Monster on from Mars. I didn't actually get interested in comics for a few more years so the first issue I got myself was #74 and that fullpage Unicron blew me away. I had to get the next one and #75 was probably the most apocalypticly beautiful things I had ever read. I went on to get Generation 2 as well. I have all 100 Marvel US comics (including minis, tie INS, and crossovers) in a small comics box in my closet to this day.

  • @evandavid2816
    @evandavid2816 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Looking back, I think my favourite moment in the Marvel TF comics was when Ratchet clobbered Starscream in one of the final issues (and I quote):
    Ratchet: "...Fun? FUN?! How DARE you? How dare you trivialize life and death! Is that all it's ever been to you, this war -- fun? How many, eh? How many have to DIE for you to get your jollies? HOW MANY...?"

  • @adolfoquinoneslombrana4218
    @adolfoquinoneslombrana4218 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was a big fan of Andrew Wildman's work back in the time. His pencils gave a new life to the characters.

  • @Mat23
    @Mat23 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Love this kinda bits of lore. Always helps me build characters for the Trading Card Game! 🎉🎉🎉

  • @maxbrandt6
    @maxbrandt6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I remember trying to read as many of the original issues back in the 80s as I could, I really enjoyed the one issue that had Rachet the only one left to stand up against Megatron. I've never read any of the UK TF stories, it's time I fixed that!

  • @kasimirmaser99
    @kasimirmaser99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The cartoon was not a part of my life, but the Marvel comic most definitely was. I didn't even know there was a cartoon until the '86 movie came out. We only had three channels back then, and the cartoon wasn't on any of them. Getting the new comic from the Piggly Wiggly was my monthly ritual for seven of the most formative years of my young life up to that point. I still have all the comics, and I even get some of them down every now and again and re-read them even to this day. Thanks for the video.

  • @jamiewalsh3349
    @jamiewalsh3349 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    We're getting Generations figures based off the Marvel comics. Shockwave and Grimlock. It really never ends.

  • @robstein1313
    @robstein1313 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    As a kid I found the Marvel comics really inconsistent and strange, but as an adult that’s exactly what I like most about them (it’s very playful and imaginative, not afraid to be silly, surreal… campy! And it even lets the creators be gross and terrifying… there’s a lot of body horror or really terrifying concepts… cosmic horror and that fusion of megaton, etc).

    • @camcordernonsense5264
      @camcordernonsense5264 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      me too. i didnt get they were doing their own thing and was disappointed reading them until around 86. my mind was fixed in the show's world. now i want all of them!

  • @Brickerbrack
    @Brickerbrack 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I still have the majority of the original UK run, missing, as it happens, 32 issues by my reckoning. Sure, some of them are a bit dog-eared (especially the ones which came with free gifts _stuck to the front),_ but for 35+ year old comics, they've done pretty well. 🙂
    My prized issue is #135, featuring the clash between Swoop and Divebomb; I got it signed by Jeff Anderson a few years back at a con in Nottingham. He was also working on a sketch of Galvatron at the time, so I bought that off him when he'd finished too. 😁

  • @NoFormalTraining
    @NoFormalTraining 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Okay, I can honestly say I was not expecting to see "the basics" on the comics themselves! Makes me wonder if you've gave the cartoon series "the basics" treatment as well :D I'll go snooping through the archives after I've posted this!
    I wonder if Combat Colin will get a look in? ;)

  • @pious83
    @pious83 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I loved Galvatron since The Movie. Furman clearly does too. No one depicts the sometimes mad future Decepticon leader better!
    While my favourite G1 Galvatron story is Rhythms of Darkness. My favourite story from the Marvel run wasn't written by Furman or Budiansky. It was a story called *Peace.* From the Transformers 1989 Annual, written by Richard _Alan._ In my eyes, it is the definitive final tale of the Transformers.

  • @jamesianhutchison1165
    @jamesianhutchison1165 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Distant Thunder. Superb bit of writing that really cemented Prime's character and nobility for me as a kid. Can't remember the name of the story, but the one where a Decepticon scientist winds up creating a zombie army always springs to mind. The artists (particularly in the UK comics) *really* took advantage of the Transformers not being "flesh and blood". Those zombies got brutalised. 😅

  • @Gaia_Gaistar
    @Gaia_Gaistar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I still have a bunch of old Marvel Transformers comics, they're sitting in a fat stack on the bottom shelf of my bookcase. Loved these as a kid.

  • @Skeletonizer
    @Skeletonizer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Nice to see this series covered by the basics!! I think I’d like to actually backread at least the US comics, being as all I had as a kid was the Matrix Quest. Great vid as always!

  • @society7394
    @society7394 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    as grateful as I am that Transformers moved over to dreamwave and idw, I'd still be really interested to know what the world would be like where the Transformers stayed in the Marvel Universe

    • @Loremastrful
      @Loremastrful 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Kate Bishop helps Bumblebee stop an alliance between the coneheads and the Kingpin. Or Venom takes over a Decpticon bounty hunter and becomes the first pretender.

    • @boastfulman-fish5524
      @boastfulman-fish5524 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Loremastrful marvels next summer crossover event "death and TAXES" where TAXES stands for transformers v avengers v X-Men v externals v Spider-Man.

  • @brennandodge9953
    @brennandodge9953 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excited to see the history behind the deadly “cosmically-powered Starscream”

  • @kemra102
    @kemra102 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Awesome video as always. After seeing someone's complete US comic run recently I'm tempted to embark on the insane task of a complete UK run...

  • @amethyst7084
    @amethyst7084 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's great seeing this run-down of the (Marvel) comic. I really enjoyed reading them back in the day. 1986 - 1987 were the best years, and I'd always head over to London's Forbidden Planet shop to buy as many copies of stories as I could (I couldn't always wait for the UK runs to come out every Friday! 😃). I really hated it when the UK comic started going black and white, and the regular leading transformers stories were cut down to a few pages; thereby leaving the back-up story being actually longer than the Transformers ones.
    It's been great in recent years, reading the IDW comics. The new characters and the maturity of the writing has made these more recent entries as comics for adults as well as children. 👏🏾

  • @TFfangeek
    @TFfangeek 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The episode of "The Basics" is the best MARVEL of this video series.

  • @garethmcknight5058
    @garethmcknight5058 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    God, I had all three of the Marvel UK annuals you showed. The nostalgia...

  • @aquilanusUK
    @aquilanusUK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I still have all mine (albeit worn out from countless rereads xD) Favourite storyline include "Dinobot Hunt", "Target:2006", and "Meanwhile on Cybertron".

  • @darthpaul99
    @darthpaul99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Issue 19, with Omega Supreme was my first comic book ever, and it was what got me into comics as a whole, not just for Transformers. Loved the series, and the Marvel G.l. Joe books too!

  • @WGoNerd
    @WGoNerd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You should make an “offline by a cosmically powered Starscream” shirt.

  • @brandonandcharlene9527
    @brandonandcharlene9527 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's hard to believe it's been 38 years. But 8 year old me remembers that first Marvel Comic TV commercial like it was yesterday. " Hey look they copied Go Bots" 😂. And while I've always preferred the animated series to the comics, I'll never forget that first commercial.

  • @anderscarlsson9077
    @anderscarlsson9077 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I read the Swedish run! It was a translation of the US version and ran from 1987 to 1991. Towards the end they threw in a few UK stories here and there. The comic was my main contact with the Transformers universe and I still consider it THE story. I still have every issue and reading it as an adult, you can see how messy it could be, but as a kid, it was epic.

  • @BillRicksonOne
    @BillRicksonOne 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Transformers #30 was the first comic I ever got. I was 10 yo and sick, stuck in bed. I read it a million times and still have it. I became a regular reader at issue # 37. A couple years later, I ordered #1-4 from some U.S. back issue reseller that advertised in the pages of the comic itself. #1 is the newsstand edition and is in great shape and remains one of my most treasured comics. (I bought the first 15 issues of Batman Adventures when it came out because I liked the cartoon and #12 is the most valuable book I've got.)