How was the KELVIN TIMELINE Created In Universe? | Star Trek Explained
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 พ.ย. 2022
- The Kelvin Timeline is the the set of films from JJ Abrams that started in 2009. Although these films, at first glance may just seem like a simple reboot, there is a lot more to it than that, and they actually exist alongside the prime timeline. In todays video we break down how the timeline was created within the Star Trek Universe.
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Written By Marcus Armstrong.
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Thank you for calling it this, I called it the Kelvin timeline in the comments on another video awhile back and got multiple replies along the lines of "who calls it that?" and was begining to feel like I was crazy.
Anytime a friend/co-worker who isn't into Star Trek asks about the Kelvin movies and I say its not a reboot, but an alternate timeline I always have to mentally prepare myself for the convoluted explanation I'm about to give. I honestly just give up like halfway through.
I have had many similar conversations so don't feel to bad.
6th Ranger?! Small world, automatically subbing tho! Also the Kelvin movies got me into trek hardcore so I'll always love them and hope we get that 4th movie.
Thanks! :D Been quiet on this channel lately but more content coming soon!
I don't have much to say about the. Kelvin timeline. But I absolutely love the music. The main theme is fabulous
Hell yeah, Michael Giacchino is genius as always 💪🏽👌🏽🙏🏼
In the Countdown comic released before the 2009 movie (which has by now been contradicted by canon), the Narada was enhanced with Borg technology, which explains why it's much more powerful than just a mining ship. Do the newer non-canon materials offer an explanation for this?
ofc Some often say the IRW Nerda in Prime Timeline was once an imperial Mining Ship that before its enhancements once started out as an imperial Romulan Mining Ship commanded by romulan commander Nero before the Talshiar found out some potential in Nero and his ship and eventualy utilized him and his ship offering him a place in the Talshiar which he all to willingly accepted.
Thus he found his ship recived secret Tal Shiar Borg Techno Enhancements. This so called interdimensional dissapearence Nero's mining ship thru a singularity thru to the JJverse was eventualy covered up by the Talshiar of the Prime Trek universe in an attempt to be swept under the rug and upon entering the JJverse that borg enhanced ship destroyed the USS Kelvin after that ships attempt to defend itself thus the JJ -Verse timeline earned the name Kelvin timeline
That'll explain the incredible power level that such originally mining ship had
Also I believe it was mentioned somewhere that before the events of the 2009 movie, The Narada was going on a rampage against the Klingons
High quality of video !! Great work explaining
Thank you 😊🖖
Could you imagine a TNG-era series set in the Kelvin Timeline?! The Enterprise may/may not be on the D yet (the battle at Narendra-3 would have gone much different), but it would BE SUPREMELY OP! A Borg encounter would mean almost-nothing.... Unless they were able to takeover the technology since it's similarly based. But, it would be so far advanced beyond the base Borg tech, that practically no one in the galaxy would be able to hold their own. Thankfully Starfleet are the good guys... 🤔 most of the time....
Yeah I love thinking about how the future would go in the Kelvin timeline! Maybe an interesting idea for a future "what if" series 🤔
@@federationoutpost That would be a video series I'd want to watch. It's be like your-own "Short Treks". And examining what could happen forward in the Kelvin Timeline would be super intriguing! I think most of the major wars would be a wash, but what could that even mean for life on TNG all the way to Lower Decks.
Great video, dig the new channel! @ 8:36 did you know that's the wrong Defiant or are y'all trolling us?
Thanks! Haha yes we noticed after it was up. Just a mistake from the editor 😅
Didn't realize this was your channel when I clicked on it and was pleasantly surprised
Having Picard ask Bruce Maddox to develop non-sentient androids is a little odd. This is the same Bruce Maddox (albeit a different actor) from the TNG episode "Measure of a Man."
Yeah and by the end of that episode, he has come to respect Data. Seeing him almost as human. So maybe it was like a character development thing? 🤷🏼♂️😅
The timeline thing was a bit confusing. I heard that CBS declared that the Kelvin Timeline was the Prime Timeline, and everything before was no longer canon. I guess they changed their minds after Star Trek Beyond kind of bombed. CBS and Paramount were also having IP rights issues the companies were split apart after Enterprise. I guess when they merged back together, they just got the green light to make original timeline Trek again. I do have some minor nitpicks about about some of the created changes. I'm not a fan of how they changed the buzzard collectors on the Enterprise D. They made it look like they had three, old-style collectors in the collectors, but I don't think that was ever intended. The Next Generation was a big budget show. They could have made it look like that if they wanted. I mean, they made it like like that with the shoestring budget of TOS. The other thing was the androids' eyes lighting up when it was looking up something. I personally just find it off and weird. Androids don't need little monitors in their eyes to access info.
Hello Federation Outpost 1-11. Really great job on the explanation of the Kelvin timeline in the Star Trek franchise. You made the explanation easy to understand by state fact that I wasn't well aware of, maybe because I haven't seen some of the new Star Trek series, like Picard or skipped some details just in general.
Anyways thank you for this really interesting video. It was really good and helped to clarify something that had been bugging me in the Star Trek franchise. Hope all goes well for you and can't wait to see more Star Trek related content from you soon. Peace out to you and 🖖, Federation Outpost 1-11.
P.S: I was just wondering if you guys use an updated version of the Star Trek Encyclopedia for your research?
Thanks Phillip! A lot is done from memory, but yeah I have a few books I refer to for research. A visual encyclopedia and The Star Trek Book are both great
None of the Star Trek series are in the Kelvin Timeline, it only exists in the new movies
@@xp8969You do make a good point and yes, I agree with you on your point that they maybe only in the movies, but this video dealt with the overall timeline and where the movie events happen.
Great explanation!
Thanks Chris! :D
The timeline wasnt supposedly changed to the Kelvin timeline till AFTER Nero came through. So explain why Kirk wasnt born in Iowa? Explain why Kirks parents were on the doomed Kelvin? The prime timeline should have been in effect until Nero came through and changed the timeline.
So....had assumed the Kelvin was on its way back to Earth before it encountered the incident/Nero. Winona went into labor early due to the stress of what was happening or was unable to have her early labor slowed down due to having to evacuate the Kelvin. Had there not been a bigass black hole and Romulan megaship in their path, she would have made it back to Iowa before delivering James T.
That's how I took it.
That makes sense with assuming of course. Also what was Kirks mom even doing on the ship? Did the Kelvin pick her up in route to earth because as far as I know families werent allowed until the galaxy class ships came out in Picard's era. One other thing that bugs me is when Nero lowers the drill to Vulcan. Seems it would be a simple thing to just blast the cable. Surely there were ships on vulcan that could have severed the drill cable.
@@MrPooh18 unless the Narada wiped out the Vulcan ships along with the Federation starfleet that arrived.
Fascinating.
This film is what actually made me a fan of Star Trek, I thought Star Trek was some geek Pg show or something, as a kid.
The kelvin timeline was created AFTER Nero came through correct? So prior to this event it should still be the prime timeline wouldnt it? These time warp/timeline themes mess me up!
the name Kelvin Timeline was the result after the destruction of the JJverse- USS Kelvin by Nero's borg enhanced romulan Mining ship.
Ok, Many times in star Trek TOS and the movies specifically Star Trek IV Kirk made references to being born in Iowa. So what was Kirks mother doing on the Kelvin? Was she on her way back to earth to give birth and the return was interrupted by Nero? Its never explained.
@@hsharrott doesn't need to be explained - you figured it out all on your own.
My brain hurts when I find out that the Kelvin Timeline is still has connections to the Prime Timeline and is canon to the Prime Timeline.
I still have trouble understanding how Abrams movies connect with Berman's pictures.
It's simple, they don't connect at all
it would be interesting to see the Dominion War during the Kelvin timeline. I would like if they made a tv show of the Enterprise B or C
I came over from 6th ranger
Awesome. Live long and prosper and may the power protect you 🖖⚡
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wait the sausage is made how again?
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Nice way to write in the need to be 25% different for licencing purposes.
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I choose to see Star Trek: Discovery and Strange New Worlds as being set in an alternate timeline, much like the Kelvin timeline. It's the only way to explain Discovery's ability to "flip" from one reality to another, and why Strange New Worlds' technology is more advanced than that of the original Enterprise NCC-1701. It also could explain why the Gorn are no longer Lizard Men, but more raptor-like beings that crawl on all fours and resemble Geiger's Alien. So many changes in these series can only be explained by being set in alternate timelines, while keeping the original stories intact.
I cant imagine what kind of timeline Strange New Worlds is set in but compared to Star Trek Discovery or Disco as most fans call that I bet Discovery is set in the Discoverse timeline aka the Mycelial timeline which I personaly would name that after the Mycelial Spore network
Why is it even called the "Kelvin" timeline?
On another note, wouldn't Spock be dead during the events of TNG?
It was an internal name given to it by the studio I believe. Named after the USS Kelvin that Nero attacks 😊
Vulcans' lifespan is more than 200 years. Spock appears in the TNG episodes “Unification I & II” (season 5, episodes 7 & 8).
@@federationoutpost Thats exactly what I thought and how it was also thought too on STO according to Temporal agent Daniels
Out of the 3 new movies I like star trek beyond
I personally HATE the Kelvin timeline, the death of Captain Pike, the humiliating destruction of the Enterprise, a fairy playing Spock and to me it's just not STAR TREK, also making KHAN WHITE instead of middle east indian like he was originally portrayed and other little annoying things.
Same here. No wonder it is taking forever to make a fourth film IF it ever comes out. We have it a chance. We can agree that JJ should not touch another SciFi film.
@@angelicagaldos Agreed, I'm not too anxious to see another JJ Kevin timeline movie at all.
There is no "Kelvin timeline". Because J.J.‘s movies are just bad Star Trek parody. … Just as his Star Wars parodys. 😒
Bullshit there is no chancei n hell that the JJverse has anything to do with Star Wars as that is owned by Disney and Disney's hold on Star Wars is a compleatly different Copyrighted IP based hold compared to 2009 Trek and the Kelvin Timeline if you have a hate to that then feel free to take ur hate to the nearest airlock
They exist now, there's no point in griping about it. Besides there are other Trekkies out there that make the Kelvin Timeline more palatable than the current version.
The Kelvin Timeline was created due to bad writing. Best to ignore it.
normally it would still be reffered to as the JJverse after the man that created the trek reboot but the reason its reffered to as the Kelvin Timeline was after the destruction of the USS Kelvin itself thx to the I.R.W Nevada mining ship if im not mistaken?
@@FLAME4564 I only saw the film once and I'm trying to forget it. Sounds about right though.
The Kelvin Timeline, and all other Nu Trek suck.
haha XD at least you have the dignatiy to show some common sense and what i call some mature sensible hate with dignaty and not bring up anything to do with star wars
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The cast was good. But the writing, conceptualization, and direction was what killed it. It wasn't like Star Trek at all. Star Trek in name only.
@@davemiller6055 like it could've been better, even other trekkies did a better job at reinterpretation of the Kelvin Timeline.