Hi gang! Yes... this is a reupload. There was part of the original video I wasn't happy with because of a mistake in my research, so I've tweaked it and posted it again. Enjoy!
It takes a great person to admit their mistakes, and even more so to rerecord and post rather than just add a little comment on the original. Well done
I did one track day so far on my RSV4. It was one of the most physically intense things I've done. I was absolutely wasted at the end of the day. I actually left early because I knew I was too fatigued and didn't want to crash. And I wasn't doing anything close to what the GP riders do. It blows my mind how these guys are able to do a full race at their level.
Same, I had an R1 that had been tuned and raced at the Isle of Man TT. I'd been riding it for a year or so and took it out on a track day, after 7-8 laps I had to go back to the pits. For me it was a little bit more mental than physical, the approach speeds into a corner that you have , on a bike that can accelerate so quickly and stop so f'n fast was more than my brain could accept at the time. And that is nothing like MotoGP.
Congratulations on your first track day brother! It really is incredibly physically strenuous, more so than most people realize. I wear a heart monitor when I ride and I routinely go into the 180s during a session and have even gone as high as 200bpm.
I used to race superbikes and after a 6 hour endurance race I couldn't lift my leg up to step up on the curb, the next morning, my legs would hurt so bad. But crazy fun. 😊
I knew Moto GP was wild, but having a breakdown like this really hammers home that these people *are* athletes. Just since I started taking my riding more seriously last year, I've had to increase my fitness to be more effective. Before the season started this year, I was doing squats and lunges with my kid on my back in preparation. I honestly don't know any other women who can rep 10 squats with a 60lb child attached, but it means my body actually has the capability to do the things I tell it to do. Now that I'm trying out more advanced techniques, I notice the difference!
I absolutely appreciate how you repeatedly emphasized that these are THE VERY BEST riders out there, and not pull some stupid nonsense like, "learn from MotoGP riders to improve your track day performance", or "how to become a better rider by incorporating these techniques."
Mate, i love the car scene too and i was a huge btcc fan in the super touring era but bike racing is something else. I watch way more bike racing than car racing today. The risk these guys take keeps you on edge of seat whole race. MotoGP is probably rhe dullest variant for this and thats saying something. Watch some British superbikes if you want to see some brutal racing. Specifically as an introduction check out last seasons finale at brands hatch. The title was won by half a point and riders swapping positions all race. Its insane. So many overtakes and epic moments, you just cant beat it
Every year, in every sport from skate boards to football to motorcycle racing to BMX to every olympic sport and all the newer ones, we see human beings doing things that are more and more utterly unimaginable. Is there a limit? Are we seeing some kind of evolution occuring in a very short time? Of course the equipment gets better, but...the humans using it are simlpy doing stuff no one dreamed of 30 years ago. It is phenomenal.
yes, evilution....notice lots of young women have wide set eyes like oprah winfrie fish eyes...notice, and young people are more beautiful than in just 40 years ago, look the photos from the cowboy days, the women were ugly and dude looked like a lady!!🎉🎉😂
I would say it is a sort of mental evolution, it helps immensely, while trying something new, to know that it is possible. So ever new generation profits from past athletes and thus are able to push the skill sealing even higher.
I don't think humans are getting better. I think knowledge and techniques have evolved because people learn from their predecessors who were not less good but didn't benefit from the same experience.
I have also thought of this, was this also considered 50/80/100 years ago where 100mph may have been considered a dream. Where do we go to in the next decades. Is 400 kmh the next barrier? How much more is possible?
I did dozens of track days, almost every weekend of the season for years. I'm a plumber, my daily job is very physical, Even then, every Monday after the track weekend every muscle in my body hurt just like the first time. My admiration and respect to these riders.
I recently raced for the first time and used the exhale, head drop at exit to push the bike away to get that extra bit of drive for lining up a pass into T1. Of course I am nowhere near a pro rider and could probably have just pinned the throttle and come out fine but the mental comfort of the fact that the rear has a bit of a more fighting chance since its on the fatter part was worth it. Have learnt so much from your channel over the years, thank you for continuing to make great content!
I did a few track days on my Monster 1200S. It was an amazing experience, and holy fook, it was exhausting. I enjoyed it so much I bought a Daytona 675R track bike. Even the smaller bike is bloody exhausting. The next day Im like a vegetable at home. Anyone that thinks riding a bike on the limit is not a physically demanding sport, have absolutely no idea what they are talking about
I saw a facebook clip once of a 6 year old whose father was a pro. The boy was practicing corners (8) in the rain on a McDonalds parking lot and he laid the bike nearly flat on such low speeds, it was nearly incomprehensible. The amount of skill, natural ability & feeling that boy had, even at that age... It really hit home the insane difference between people who think they are good riders and actual professionals.
Basically knew all of the stuff talked about in the video as I'm an avid MotoGP fan and rider myself, what really surprised me though is the extremely high heart rate that's maintained during the whole race. Simply nuts what these guys do!
interesting.. that wouldn't occur to me; seems like a leg hanging out wouldn't really do much to keep me out of a particular line; I'd just push it out of my way, LOL
That's precisely what it is, along with an extra air catcher for braking. It means if you go in wide for a better exit, you can block anyone sneaking up the inside.
I’m no Rossi. I’m 36 and ride a ‘18 SV650. When I think I’m going low and looking cool in a corner, I later get home and see I’ve got nearly an inch on each side of the rear tire. It’s got sticky tires I put on, but I still can’t bring myself to extract that much performance on the street. I really wish there was a track near me. I’m not trying to low side or high side on a public road so I play it safe with lean angle. I’m not ashamed of my “chicken strips”. The extra tire is there in case of an emergency.
Awesome video! I knew they were fit, but adding some numbers to it really helps me get a sense of how hard they are working. This is truly an extreme sport. Crazy levels of skill to ride the bike in the first place (smoothly, with the power) but it seems like the MotoGP class just cranks the forces up and up and up. I can't begin to imagine what it feels like to pop your chest up into a 320kph wind while also trying not to pull a stoppie, and also balance that against 2x your body weight going into your arms while you try to squeeze a bike with one leg. And then to somehow smoothly transition to 45+deg of lean and touch your elbow to the ground. Aliens indeed.
Thank you for your channel. It is one of the best channels I now. It helps me so much developing my riding on the track, to be a better rider and to understand what I am doing, and what I have to do to become better. Thank you so much for your work, I love your channel.
Loved the video, I’m not a sport bike rider, a cruiser bike owner. But, I love to watch superbike races. Really enjoyed your explanation of body position with racers. It gives better understanding when you watch races. I must admit I miss the old races where it seemed more effortless for racers to glide thru corners at high speeds. My age has watched many changes in all forms of bike racing and riding. Thanks for your work.
I used to race in cmra endurance with my brother and a couple other dudes.......one thing I could never master....or hell, even get close is the throttle blip while holding the brake lever steady. Somehow, I was the fastest on my team without even remotely getting this technique. I had an absolutely horrible wreck in Oklahoma in like 2008 or something that ruined my racing for me. I used to find it fun and exciting....but after that horrible injury and not having insurance........I kinda got nervous on the track. If I had unlimited healthcare, I would go balls to the wall still...but those bills almost ruined me and I don't want to go through that again.
Thankyou for the great, clear, concise explanation of what the riders are dealing with when cornering as amazingly as they now do! And entire physical demand! As someone who enjoys watching, a whole nother level of appreciation for them all! 😊🧡🏍
I remember seeing shoulders hit the ground on some corners more than a decade ago, but it was in some specific corners and only a few riders ever did it.
You explained every detail of these amazing techniques so well! My respect for these riders is growing. I was a Enduro racer and while doing Enduro racing I had to get my physical fitness to the highest level I ever had. But compared to which forces these guys experience thia was a walk in the park!
Mind you that Brad Binder is one of the riders who likes to dangle their leg the least (as it's visible at 4:30, where, unlike almost everyone else, he keeps his foot on the peg). It'd be interesting to hear why some riders dangle the leg more than others
I have always speculated that if you can hang further off the bike, you can keep the bike more upright and on a potentially larger tire patch for better grip and stability. Putting that into practice takes a toll on the core muscles and lots of repetition to get consistent, I'm assuming.
Cracking video - i wonder how much the headwind helps the rider with braking forces. Obviously the data we have is from accelerometers on the bike, the parachute effect must reduce what the rider deals with... but by how much?
The extreme body position hanging off in the corner's helps stall the air and increase air pressure over the high side of the bike creating more down force. Combined with the updated side aero on the bikes, this is very efficient. We never really thought aero would be effective in turns to the degree it is today. Very impressive stuff.
great video. i cant believe how many low side saves we see now because of how far they are off the bike in the corners, great reactions and strength to push the bike back onto the tyre.
Re. extreme lean angles... I recall seeing a series of still of (I believe) Mark Marquez going through a corner. He leaned over so fat the wheals came off of the pavement. He push with his elbow, and got the tires back on the ground. Nuts!
When I did sprint races with CCS, I was always glad it was over after 8 laps. You have to be in incredible shape to ride your bike hard for damn near an hour, even if you're a much less talented amateur racer like I was.
Hello, couple of years after bootcamp I bought my first New bike. On one ride in the outskirts, I found a perfect, long, empty country road with a sweeping corner at the end. Long story short, after a 200kph blast and half way around the corner I realized I may not make this. A picture flashed in my head of a motorcycle race I had seen ( strange, but true) and instantly threw my leg out, and body even farther. I was young, indestructible, but that was one of those lessons you learn, but that move saved me and my Z1R from a lot of grief. Saw the video and it brought back a lot of memories.
The hardest I've braked was on a Superduke not long after I'd got it. Massively overcommitted to a corner on the road and found myself closing hard on my mate on a 916 in front of me. The physics of it didn't make sense to me. My brain was telling me the front should have washed out long ago. The back may have come up a bit but I don't know; I was bricking it. I slowed down fine and the ABS didn't even feel the need to jump in but my wrists and my ringpiece were in bits. Can't imagine what these guys are going through.
I may be wrong on this, but their tire size is still 16.5 making the bike that much closer to the ground. Also way back in the 90s when I was over in the EU testing tires for moto2 "250cc" bikes the motogp bikes guys I talked to said on exit the rear tire never totally hooks up, ,meaning it's spinning up and sliding out of the corner. Just as the Pic you showed or Casy sliding pre apex to square off the corner. With riding aids today Im not sure if that's really thing now. If someone knows please speak up. Also their transmissions are different now when shifting it takes very little effort to go from say 2nd to 3rd etc. With riding aids they also can just,ram the corner, break as late and as hard as possible, lean the bike , then pin the throttle. In my day that would have gotten you thrown off the high side. So with all, that said , I don't think they care as much because they know the computer will take care of the exist. Frankly I would be in favor with some of the sporting regs being changed so we can see motor talented riders float to then top.
You did like the michelin 2ct a few years ago, did you find any you liking better, what is your top 3 and does the 2ct still up in the top of the better ones? By the way, thank you for the videos, watching about 10 and writing the most importent things down on a paper and bring it to the learning courses!
I raced for years and the only time I would touch the rear brake was on exit of a corner to control wheel spin which wasn't very often. This was around the time traction control was becoming common so now there's not much use for a rear brake. Some of the pros say they use a little to rotate the bike but I think that's pretty rare. Under hard braking the rear tire has little to no weight on it.
Shoot. That don't look hard. But seriously, I had no idea - and still have no idea - what goes into this kind of racing. Very impressive. And very impressive athletes.
So long as your tires can tolerate that amount of lateral acceleration, have at it. The tires would require a major increase in section and weight to allow the riders to remain more upright and that's gonna hurt handling.
Should add that one of the main reasons we're seeing sharper more V-shaped lines when cornering is because of V4 engines. When you look at the cornering lines of yamaha riders vs ducati riders, yamaha riders take more sweeping turns whereas ducati riders take sharper turns, due to the physics of each bikes design.
I’ve said this since 1997, people use to think I was doing to much on the bike on highways, with so many cars are becoming fast as bikes, we have no choice to be more physically safe! I learned from MotoGP (watching techniques)…
I used all of these techniques to beat 9 time Canadian national champion Steve Dick, and American champion Gary Nixon, (except the leg dangle) Spot on.
Hi gang! Yes... this is a reupload. There was part of the original video I wasn't happy with because of a mistake in my research, so I've tweaked it and posted it again. Enjoy!
And here I am thinking I'm going crazy cuz I know I watched this yesterday XD
It takes a great person to admit their mistakes, and even more so to rerecord and post rather than just add a little comment on the original. Well done
chad
You did like the michelin 2ct a few years ago, did you find any you liking better, what is your top 3 and does the 2ct still up in the top?
I love the honesty 🤘🤘
I did one track day so far on my RSV4. It was one of the most physically intense things I've done. I was absolutely wasted at the end of the day. I actually left early because I knew I was too fatigued and didn't want to crash. And I wasn't doing anything close to what the GP riders do. It blows my mind how these guys are able to do a full race at their level.
Same, I had an R1 that had been tuned and raced at the Isle of Man TT. I'd been riding it for a year or so and took it out on a track day, after 7-8 laps I had to go back to the pits. For me it was a little bit more mental than physical, the approach speeds into a corner that you have , on a bike that can accelerate so quickly and stop so f'n fast was more than my brain could accept at the time. And that is nothing like MotoGP.
Congratulations on your first track day brother! It really is incredibly physically strenuous, more so than most people realize. I wear a heart monitor when I ride and I routinely go into the 180s during a session and have even gone as high as 200bpm.
I too had a similar experience on my Tuono V4 Factory at COTA....wasted by the end of the day 😂
I'm 57, I often don't stay for the last session on a track day. Too tired. I'm on a Fireblade.
I used to race superbikes and after a 6 hour endurance race I couldn't lift my leg up to step up on the curb, the next morning, my legs would hurt so bad. But crazy fun. 😊
I knew Moto GP was wild, but having a breakdown like this really hammers home that these people *are* athletes. Just since I started taking my riding more seriously last year, I've had to increase my fitness to be more effective. Before the season started this year, I was doing squats and lunges with my kid on my back in preparation. I honestly don't know any other women who can rep 10 squats with a 60lb child attached, but it means my body actually has the capability to do the things I tell it to do. Now that I'm trying out more advanced techniques, I notice the difference!
Sounds like you're doing really well with your training, and your child gets a free ride too.😂
I absolutely appreciate how you repeatedly emphasized that these are THE VERY BEST riders out there, and not pull some stupid nonsense like, "learn from MotoGP riders to improve your track day performance", or "how to become a better rider by incorporating these techniques."
I’m taking notes 🤓
@@bigthunder7002 😂
FASCINATING! I'm a car guy, F1 and BTCC, but I shall start to pay more attention to MotoGP as a result of watching this.
Mate, i love the car scene too and i was a huge btcc fan in the super touring era but bike racing is something else. I watch way more bike racing than car racing today. The risk these guys take keeps you on edge of seat whole race. MotoGP is probably rhe dullest variant for this and thats saying something. Watch some British superbikes if you want to see some brutal racing. Specifically as an introduction check out last seasons finale at brands hatch. The title was won by half a point and riders swapping positions all race. Its insane. So many overtakes and epic moments, you just cant beat it
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against these Moto GP guys, the stress of driving cars seems to be a joke.
What.. your Gramma makes u sound like a rag if u says your rs like your fs.
Every year, in every sport from skate boards to football to motorcycle racing to BMX to every olympic sport and all the newer ones, we see human beings doing things that are more and more utterly unimaginable. Is there a limit? Are we seeing some kind of evolution occuring in a very short time? Of course the equipment gets better, but...the humans using it are simlpy doing stuff no one dreamed of 30 years ago. It is phenomenal.
yes, evilution....notice lots of young women have wide set eyes like oprah winfrie fish eyes...notice, and young people are more beautiful than in just 40 years ago, look the photos from the cowboy days, the women were ugly and dude looked like a lady!!🎉🎉😂
I would say it is a sort of mental evolution, it helps immensely, while trying something new, to know that it is possible. So ever new generation profits from past athletes and thus are able to push the skill sealing even higher.
I don't think humans are getting better. I think knowledge and techniques have evolved because people learn from their predecessors who were not less good but didn't benefit from the same experience.
I have also thought of this, was this also considered 50/80/100 years ago where 100mph may have been considered a dream. Where do we go to in the next decades. Is 400 kmh the next barrier? How much more is possible?
I did dozens of track days, almost every weekend of the season for years. I'm a plumber, my daily job is very physical, Even then, every Monday after the track weekend every muscle in my body hurt just like the first time. My admiration and respect to these riders.
I recently raced for the first time and used the exhale, head drop at exit to push the bike away to get that extra bit of drive for lining up a pass into T1. Of course I am nowhere near a pro rider and could probably have just pinned the throttle and come out fine but the mental comfort of the fact that the rear has a bit of a more fighting chance since its on the fatter part was worth it.
Have learnt so much from your channel over the years, thank you for continuing to make great content!
I did a few track days on my Monster 1200S. It was an amazing experience, and holy fook, it was exhausting. I enjoyed it so much I bought a Daytona 675R track bike. Even the smaller bike is bloody exhausting. The next day Im like a vegetable at home. Anyone that thinks riding a bike on the limit is not a physically demanding sport, have absolutely no idea what they are talking about
I saw a facebook clip once of a 6 year old whose father was a pro. The boy was practicing corners (8) in the rain on a McDonalds parking lot and he laid the bike nearly flat on such low speeds, it was nearly incomprehensible. The amount of skill, natural ability & feeling that boy had, even at that age... It really hit home the insane difference between people who think they are good riders and actual professionals.
Basically knew all of the stuff talked about in the video as I'm an avid MotoGP fan and rider myself, what really surprised me though is the extremely high heart rate that's maintained during the whole race. Simply nuts what these guys do!
I remember when Rossi first started using the leg dangle technique, people thought it was a defensive move to block riders from coming up the inside.
interesting.. that wouldn't occur to me; seems like a leg hanging out wouldn't really do much to keep me out of a particular line; I'd just push it out of my way, LOL
I was riding back in the 2000s when Rossi was first doing it. It was hilarious watching people on the street all start doing it to look cool.
That's precisely what it is, along with an extra air catcher for braking.
It means if you go in wide for a better exit, you can block anyone sneaking up the inside.
That technique ruins motogp for me. Stopped watching ever since all riders use that
@@Kraken9911I do it with my arms when I'm walking to the shop.
The rear wheel coming off the ground and going into the corners on one wheel is crazy.
I'm 63yo, how things have changed. Their constantly getting better and better. I'm excited to see the developments year after year. 🇦🇺 👍 😊
I’m no Rossi. I’m 36 and ride a ‘18 SV650. When I think I’m going low and looking cool in a corner, I later get home and see I’ve got nearly an inch on each side of the rear tire. It’s got sticky tires I put on, but I still can’t bring myself to extract that much performance on the street. I really wish there was a track near me. I’m not trying to low side or high side on a public road so I play it safe with lean angle. I’m not ashamed of my “chicken strips”. The extra tire is there in case of an emergency.
In case of an emergency😂😂😂😂🔥
Nah.
'17 sv650 owner here. Nice bike bro! Ha
Awesome video!
I knew they were fit, but adding some numbers to it really helps me get a sense of how hard they are working. This is truly an extreme sport. Crazy levels of skill to ride the bike in the first place (smoothly, with the power) but it seems like the MotoGP class just cranks the forces up and up and up.
I can't begin to imagine what it feels like to pop your chest up into a 320kph wind while also trying not to pull a stoppie, and also balance that against 2x your body weight going into your arms while you try to squeeze a bike with one leg. And then to somehow smoothly transition to 45+deg of lean and touch your elbow to the ground.
Aliens indeed.
Glad to see you posting again! Welcome back!
those tires r ridiculous. the people behind overall tire developement do not get enough credit.
They're probably more interested in the large amount of cash they are paid.
Definitely ONE of my favourite SPORTS!!!!! Thank YOU for your very informative video!!!!👍👍👍❤🇿🇦!!!!!
I remember Mark Marquez doing a bit of a controlled highside to switch direction in an S curve.... Indianapolis MotoGP race.
One of the best moto channels on TH-cam. Hands down.
great stuff. Thank you. Simple and concise.
Crazy what these guys are doing. I didn’t know it’s so much work.
Amazing video….. really well presented too. New level of respect for riders fitness and skills in the face of terrifying speed….. 👏
Thank you for your channel. It is one of the best channels I now. It helps me so much developing my riding on the track, to be a better rider and to understand what I am doing, and what I have to do to become better. Thank you so much for your work, I love your channel.
Loved the video, I’m not a sport bike rider, a cruiser bike owner. But, I love to watch superbike races.
Really enjoyed your explanation of body position with racers. It gives better understanding when you watch races. I must admit I miss the old races where it seemed more effortless for racers to glide thru corners at high speeds.
My age has watched many changes in all forms of bike racing and riding. Thanks for your work.
Great insights, presented in great fashion!
I used to race in cmra endurance with my brother and a couple other dudes.......one thing I could never master....or hell, even get close is the throttle blip while holding the brake lever steady. Somehow, I was the fastest on my team without even remotely getting this technique. I had an absolutely horrible wreck in Oklahoma in like 2008 or something that ruined my racing for me. I used to find it fun and exciting....but after that horrible injury and not having insurance........I kinda got nervous on the track. If I had unlimited healthcare, I would go balls to the wall still...but those bills almost ruined me and I don't want to go through that again.
Thankyou for the great, clear, concise explanation of what the riders are dealing with when cornering as amazingly as they now do! And entire physical demand! As someone who enjoys watching, a whole nother level of appreciation for them all! 😊🧡🏍
I remember seeing shoulders hit the ground on some corners more than a decade ago, but it was in some specific corners and only a few riders ever did it.
Absolutely incredible! These guys are awesome!
Oh Amazing shot. great refresh on the memory
You explained every detail of these amazing techniques so well! My respect for these riders is growing. I was a Enduro racer and while doing Enduro racing I had to get my physical fitness to the highest level I ever had. But compared to which forces these guys experience thia was a walk in the park!
Always helpful content. Certainly helped me understand my bike and how to ride it better. Thanks!
Amazingly some Riders are even able to do
" SCRATCHING their HELMETS " while cornering.. 👀 🤯😱
Amazing melding of man a machine. Phenomenal capabilities, great subject.
Greetings, 9-7-07, I was rear ended while on a zx-9 that i dont recall owning. Its hard to find sportbike content, so thank you, sir
Great video. Hustling my old ZX7r requires this sort of strength and commitment just to go a couple of miles!!
Mind you that Brad Binder is one of the riders who likes to dangle their leg the least (as it's visible at 4:30, where, unlike almost everyone else, he keeps his foot on the peg). It'd be interesting to hear why some riders dangle the leg more than others
Ahh very exciting to see the boys shouldering it around the corners , I believe they call it evolution !
i love the way you present your ideas, so clear and impactful!
I have always speculated that if you can hang further off the bike, you can keep the bike more upright and on a potentially larger tire patch for better grip and stability. Putting that into practice takes a toll on the core muscles and lots of repetition to get consistent, I'm assuming.
Cracking video - i wonder how much the headwind helps the rider with braking forces. Obviously the data we have is from accelerometers on the bike, the parachute effect must reduce what the rider deals with... but by how much?
The extreme body position hanging off in the corner's helps stall the air and increase air pressure over the high side of the bike creating more down force. Combined with the updated side aero on the bikes, this is very efficient. We never really thought aero would be effective in turns to the degree it is today. Very impressive stuff.
Great video. Heart pounding.
I've loved watching Moto GP. Valentino Rossi fan. It's exciting and extremely competitive racing.
honestly health and fitness are becoming such a big part of every walk of life. if one is fit it's a huge advantage whatever one does
Car racing is also challenging be it F1 or other forms but man these guys are really wild!
great video.
i cant believe how many low side saves we see now because of how far they are off the bike in the corners, great reactions and strength to push the bike back onto the tyre.
What a cool video. Great stuff, man.
Absolutely fantastic video ,bravo 🏁 cheers 🍻
Re. extreme lean angles... I recall seeing a series of still of (I believe) Mark Marquez going through a corner. He leaned over so fat the wheals came off of the pavement. He push with his elbow, and got the tires back on the ground. Nuts!
Great video. Really had a ton of great info. Well done man, you can tell you put in the time!
When I did sprint races with CCS, I was always glad it was over after 8 laps. You have to be in incredible shape to ride your bike hard for damn near an hour, even if you're a much less talented amateur racer like I was.
Of course launch control, slipper clutches, traction controls, power mode settings, remote suspension changes etc…. All help
Great Video Thanks
7:03 What is basic ?
Awesome video, as always!
great insight Sir
Absolutely amazing!
Educational. Thanks.
F**k, I had no idea! Seems so clear now, but... I had no idea. Freaking amazing stuff! Big thanks.
Hello, couple of years after bootcamp I bought my first New bike. On one ride in the outskirts, I found a perfect, long, empty country road with a sweeping corner at the end. Long story short, after a 200kph blast and half way around the corner I realized I may not make this. A picture flashed in my head of a motorcycle race I had seen ( strange, but true) and instantly threw my leg out, and body even farther. I was young, indestructible, but that was one of those lessons you learn, but that move saved me and my Z1R from a lot of grief. Saw the video and it brought back a lot of memories.
The hardest I've braked was on a Superduke not long after I'd got it. Massively overcommitted to a corner on the road and found myself closing hard on my mate on a 916 in front of me. The physics of it didn't make sense to me. My brain was telling me the front should have washed out long ago. The back may have come up a bit but I don't know; I was bricking it. I slowed down fine and the ABS didn't even feel the need to jump in but my wrists and my ringpiece were in bits. Can't imagine what these guys are going through.
Excellent, concise, and informative. Thank you for making this.
Super interesting! As a new rider, should I move my body to the side when cornering on the street, or simply lean the bike? Thanks.
Great video!
hes gonna shake peoples hands with that
Jorge Martin has incredible body positioning, so good to watch
I may be wrong on this, but their tire size is still 16.5 making the bike that much closer to the ground. Also way back in the 90s when I was over in the EU testing tires for moto2 "250cc" bikes the motogp bikes guys I talked to said on exit the rear tire never totally hooks up, ,meaning it's spinning up and sliding out of the corner. Just as the Pic you showed or Casy sliding pre apex to square off the corner. With riding aids today Im not sure if that's really thing now. If someone knows please speak up. Also their transmissions are different now when shifting it takes very little effort to go from say 2nd to 3rd etc. With riding aids they also can just,ram the corner, break as late and as hard as possible, lean the bike , then pin the throttle. In my day that would have gotten you thrown off the high side. So with all, that said , I don't think they care as much because they know the computer will take care of the exist. Frankly I would be in favor with some of the sporting regs being changed so we can see motor talented riders float to then top.
Ahhhh . . . now I understand why riders "push" on their handlebars. Thank you for teaching this newby!
You did like the michelin 2ct a few years ago, did you find any you liking better, what is your top 3 and does the 2ct still up in the top of the better ones? By the way, thank you for the videos, watching about 10 and writing the most importent things down on a paper and bring it to the learning courses!
I love watching MotoGP
Just noticed: when they dangle their legs, they do not brake with the back wheel? So they do just break with theire front wheel?
Yes, the rear tire gets offloaded so much under hard braking that there wouldn't be much braking effort from the rear anyway.
I raced for years and the only time I would touch the rear brake was on exit of a corner to control wheel spin which wasn't very often. This was around the time traction control was becoming common so now there's not much use for a rear brake. Some of the pros say they use a little to rotate the bike but I think that's pretty rare. Under hard braking the rear tire has little to no weight on it.
This is truly unbelievable…… still shaking my head…..how can they do that ?
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Shoot. That don't look hard.
But seriously, I had no idea - and still have no idea - what goes into this kind of racing. Very impressive. And very impressive athletes.
So long as your tires can tolerate that amount of lateral acceleration, have at it. The tires would require a major increase in section and weight to allow the riders to remain more upright and that's gonna hurt handling.
Don't forget Kenny Roberts! He invented the " extreme Leaning" or " knee draggin". I remember watchin' him in the 70's and 80's.
A very intelligent friend of mine once said no matter how good a shock is, it still prefers to stand straight up and down.
I'm an f1 person and it's good to see red bull and binder in the fastest bikes in the world
These guys are Crazy !
These guys are really fit !!!
Question - Does this mean there more over taking now than say 10 years ago?
Should add that one of the main reasons we're seeing sharper more V-shaped lines when cornering is because of V4 engines. When you look at the cornering lines of yamaha riders vs ducati riders, yamaha riders take more sweeping turns whereas ducati riders take sharper turns, due to the physics of each bikes design.
Educational
Moto GP is truly insane compared to what I watched in the 70’s!
Sure they are resisting the braking G forces, but there is also wind pushing back on them, so its not as much as you calculated...
it's all happening to their body regardless of where it comes from.
my heros
Seriously...... WoW!
8:38 Why are these things becoming more and more difficult to steer?
amazing athletes. push 120~ Kg each breaking some 350 times per race - Great stuff. cool knowledge
I’ve said this since 1997, people use to think I was doing to much on the bike on highways, with so many cars are becoming fast as bikes, we have no choice to be more physically safe! I learned from MotoGP (watching techniques)…
This happened with Bmx. Chase Hawk brought in that style and it changed how people rode and landed shit.
v-shaped line is a double Apex
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I used all of these techniques to beat 9 time Canadian national champion Steve Dick, and American champion Gary Nixon, (except the leg dangle)
Spot on.
The leg dangle looks ridiculous but, whatever works. Thanks for the explanation.
You can say that again. Ridiculous.
Feels like I'm hanging off the bike on a track day... until I see the pictures. Still scary as hell even at hobby speeds.
Learned a lot and enjoyed the video. Thankyou