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Just got a set of these after wanting some for a few weeks and I’m very happy with the quality straight out of the box. Fitting was easy and I didn’t need to bleed after fitting. The company distributing them are fast and professional at communicating. I’m really looking forward to seeing how far I can take them
That’s great to hear!
I just got a set in the mail yesterday. I will put out a video in the coming months as I currently own a set of:
1.) Trickstuff Maximas. 2.) Radic Kahas 3.) Hayes Dominion 4's 4.) and the newest Lewis DH brakes...
So off the top, it's obvious that Lewis pulled a lot from Trickstuff. I can say Trickstuff brakes still look and feel better better. I'll have a back-to-back on all these brakes soon....I'm currently running Kahas on one bike and the Maxima's on my other bike.
I reccomend getting the magura mt7 raceline as well. It brakes really nice and they are very high-quality
I tought those were Trickstuff at first
Any update on the Kahas v Lewis? Quite interested as the Kahas are made local here in NZ.
I have had a go on these brakes and I can say they are well made, have great modulation, and the immense stopping power is insane
My thoughts too 💭
No idea how your stuff ended up in my recommended, never mountainbiked a day in my life but man they made my insomnia so much more fun!
Stoked you enjoyed it 😅
Soooo, maybe try mountain biking :D Just a suggestion
Been looking for new brakes and these look perfect!💪
They are!
that felt very much like a commercial for a "not sponsored clip". weird honestly.
If that’s how you take it, ok 🤷♀️
@@wolfpack_adventures you say this and a few comments down i saw you now indicate you asked for these and got them for free. that is sponsored and explains it. this is deceitful practice. learn from it and move on imo.
I don’t take that unfortunately. Asking to try a product and making a video on your honest thoughts is not sponsorship in my eyes.
I believe if you think that, you are narrow minded.
Again, each to their own - if you don’t like what you see, then don’t try them
The Advertising standards authority thinks differently. I'd suggest you read their guide for influencers to avoid breaking the law. You just need to be upfront in the video that you got them for free so people can judge accordingly.@@wolfpack_adventures
Great review 👍🏼 looks like a very high quality brake!
And you’d be correct!
talking about pistons , i know some companies use plastic or ceramic because they want to insulate it from heat build up , so on that note , is using steel pistons a good thing ?
Great video man. They look awesome.
Appreciate your kind words - great product!
Cool brakes, definitely worth a purchase, do the pads have any rattle like shimano?
Not that I know of or have experienced
They are some pretty brakes! Beautiful machining Alex as you pointed out. Never heard of them but interested to find out more. See how they fair after a winter in Inners 😂 Good work Al 🤘❤️🌈🕊️🌎
100%
I can confirm these brakes are, well the Lewis LHt is absolutely amazing. Cheers for the review, made me take a punt and glad I did. I'd say they feel like they have modulation of SRAM rsc and the power of Saints, love them.
Thanks for the review. I found Lewis a few months ago and have been very interested, glad to see they're working as good as they look. Definitely on the cards for a purchase if the Australian supplier doesn't do the usual nosebleed Australian price for obscure stuff (cant say as I know what they charge as when I looked their website didnt work).
Amazing brakes. They are high quality and have superb performance.
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I just saw the Lewis LHT Ultimate.
This has to be the most adjustable brake. The brake looks well thought out. Reach, bite point, leverage adjustment. Nobody else has that. Definitely a strong entry to the brake market.
Tempted with them but the lht ultimate is hope tech 4 v4 money at 400 notes......just don't know about that the lh4 at 270 just seems to male more sense ...hmmmm
i just want to upgrade my 2022 trek shlash what is beast break for me xtr or lewish lh4
Do they ship to america. The link you put is the only place i seem to be able to find them.
Hi, have you try the LHT with 4 x17mm pistons or just the LH4? what is the more powerfull LHT or LH4? Thanks
I haven’t tried the LHT brakes yet, only the LH4
for brake pads. the best ive ever used are copper free brake pads. absolutely insane bite and stopping power
I'm not trying to be negative, just curious.
I'm curious how they do quality control. Do they torture test every unit on a machine? I hope there won't be leaky seals.
On Formula Cura 4 I had to rebuild the front brake as seals leaked. I don't remember how many kms I did. But atleast there were parts I could order and fix it. I hope spare parts will be easy to get. Formula Cura 4 is usless unless you buy RG Components leve upgrade which is currently out of stock. The guy making them is probably too busy doing press events for the bike brand he has too. But I managed to get a set. Before people bought all he had.
So with my criteria it seems like Lewis is the brake to get now. As I don't want dot fluid, don't want to send brake off for service. And Lewis being a better design than Trickstuff. It seems like a no brainier if spare parts are available, but Lewis told me spare are offered. Bu ti don't see them on the website yet nor those that sell them. But it's early stages. If they do this right this might be the new king in town.
i just want to upgrade my 2022 trek slash 8 breaks what is beast break for me
have wanted these for a while. so I couldn't resist at that price. did ask them to put a black hose on instead so fingers crossed but they're probably thinking is he having a laugh. anyhow thanks for the update...✊🙂
Let me know how you get on with them
@@wolfpack_adventures first day using them just for a couple of hours. absolutely quality brakes as the horse was too long so I had to cut them and put them back together pretty easy job. early days yet but I'm confident they will last a long time. so glad I got them at that price. and again thanks for the update. appreciated...🤙🙂
I mean brake hose...🐴
I have a set of these but my feeling is so bad, unconsistant feeling all the time this is bad… have you a solution ( already bleed them 2 times)
These looks promising. They are piece of art. These would fit the look of my bike.
Some call it 'Trickstuff copy'' They are definitely not a copy, yes some of the design is similar, but the bleed port placement is better than Trickstuff, plus it got the bite point adjustment. But what you said is on point. Trickstuff is super expensive, I'm sure they are good, I see they are back in stock in some retailers, but more than double the price. Less features.
Also made in China does not mean bad quality.
Good to see some competitive products in the brake world.
I love that it has metal all over, bearings, no plastic bushings that wear out fast. No need to buy aftermarket lever. Like I had to do with Formula Cura 4. Ended up being similar price. I only bought one set, cus I wanted to wait for something potentially better. This seems like na valid option.
The brake looks well designed.
They told me they offer spare parts. So that's great. I see there is a german distributor too.
Its 100% trickstuff copy.
@@generaldwarf Maybe, but if there's no pending patent they are free to do so right? They don't have any pending patents for brakes. But their lastest patent is for possibly upcoming 6 bolt to centre line adapter. The patent for the stem top cap compression plug design is still not lapsed. But they have 3 year patents on everything. So if not renewed, the patents are no longer valid. So anyone can copy it.
If it was copy without legal way its a no go I agree. But seems legal to me.
They look at appearances very nice, quality looking finish, i think once more reviews come out people will get a better opinion overall, I don't care if something looks like a copy, if its done well, its opportunity for improvements and a new company to make prices competitive, after all it started with one company making something and then other companies coping and improving on in the first place.
I've been running these for a while now and they work best with Magura Mt7 rotors having tried a few other brands.
Great to know! Hayes rotors don’t seem the best
What do you mean by that? @@wolfpack_adventures
Bro please help me to get the word out about a serous flaw on many china floating brake disc ive tried several brands and they all have super thin cheap steel washers that can rust out in no time , when they must have stainless ! And many of these are being used on hight powerd ebikes , so they are allredy under sized for the speed potentially of the bikes.
@@wolfpack_adventures😢Bro please help me to get the word out about a serous flaw on many china floating brake disc ive tried several brands and they all have super thin cheap steel washers that can rust out in no time , when they must have stainless ! And many of these are being used on hight powerd ebikes , so they are allredy under sized for the speed potentially of the bikes.
Let us know how the lever feel wanders in 6+ months. I'm glad someone is testing brakes for us. My old juicy and sliders have reach and pad contact but they're a gimmick like you say, my guides are the worst because if you touch anything you need to rebleed to fix lever feel. They feature the anti leak hoses using stealthamajig, worst invention ever, it's a spring that pushes the olive/hose out & pushes against the piston.
Since lever piston is machined from PEEK. it should not degrade as in other brakes, using probably polyamide.
I got a pair of Hayes Dominion A4s for £180.. not sure if they’re as powerful as the Lewis ones though coz I’ve never tried the latter.
I also have a pair of Dominions - great brakes!
@@wolfpack_adventures how would you say they stack up against the Lewis ones? In terms of power and overall maintenance?
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Nice vid . Are the brakes made in uk or USA? Or china?
China
Sounds tempting. A bit put off by some of the comments. Brakes are also literally life or death
Put off by which comments? If you have questions, maybe I can answer them
Pros have been using them.
Just wait - you’ll see A LOT of big name riders using this brand of product in 2024 👀
I sometimes think the big companies have to differentiate themselves from one another, even if the products suffer as a result because that how unique brands are built. I can see a resemblance to other products but agree with Alex; it's plausible these are just a 'best of' product - every innovation builds from the last...the dumb bit for me is the aesthetics...a lambo and a ferrari as essentially the same product but styling sets them apart, at least physiologically to the consumer. Seems strange to machine the reservoir caps without any imagination. Or to create a lever that instantly brings other brands to mind. If these take off (not hard to inagine), it will be interesting to see how the brands mentioned by others react. Sometimes second movers advantage is a b*tch for the innovator. Thanks for posting. Interesting stuff.
Lewis is a 100% Chinese company. That's what Chinese companies do. Rip off of original ideas and sell for less due to low cost in material and cheap labor.
Have you ridden trickstuff maximas??
I have not
@@wolfpack_adventures I’m lucky to have a set of maximas and I’m sorry but a can’t believe these are more refined. The maximas are incredible
Have you tried the Lewis LH4 brakes? If not, maybe you shouldn’t make a statement like that until done so
Again, like my response to many comments in this video, this is my honest opinion.
You’re also entitled to yours x
They look a lot like Trickstuff
Now really? You're going to say with a straight face that these brakes are not a Chinese carbon copy of Trickstuff brakes? Oh man that's a stretch.
You are speaking in the video about "top brands" but are you really so clueless that you didn't know about Trickstuff or are you really that dishonest that you're not going to mention Trickstuff even though these are exact copies of their brakes, now which is it? Neither one is too good look on you though.
Ah another lovely comment from somebody who has done zero research x
Don’t buy them then :)
Simple
@@wolfpack_adventures Comment wasn't about me buying them or not, it was about your dishonesty not mentioning Trickstuff which you really should've addressed in some length and not just brush it away like it's not a thing. Hope they compensated you well enough for selling your integrity.
Alex the hatred on Singletrackworld forum is unbelievable, out of this world, I never seen anything like it.
Strangers are losing their mind because I bought these brakes and started with loads of insults. It's absolutely pathetic.
@@matlockmeat That's just stupid. Hell, I might even buy these myself at some point if I need new brakes but still, not truly talking (in his video) about obvious elephant in the room that these brakes are almost carbon copy of Trickstuff is very dishonest in my view.
The brakes look similar to Trickstuff brakes
At first I thought these are just some Trickstuff knockoffs, which, to be fair, stands to reason upon first look. But then after a bit of digging, I learned that they are actually a brand based in China. This explains the question at 7:10, since China is pretty much the only country in the world with such industrial capabilities that could achieve such economies of scale, which allows Chinese companies to make and sell quality products at prices unheard of in the west before. Or put it in another way, the products in the past were 'overpriced', so to speak, either because of high production costs associated with the western market, or the scarcity/preconception of brands that drove prices over the fair value of the products. Or a combination of both that led to the oligopolistic market people got used to over time. Anyway, as consumers, we should be welcoming such a trend of change cuz ultimately we are the ones that benefit from the competition.
Most caliper pistons are actually ceramic not plastic.
£160 a brake without rotor isn’t really cheap and about right for a decent set of brakes at the moment and you can actually buy better brakes for the same or even less like the new hope tech 4’s which are selling for £150 a brake. I’d happily ride a set but I’d spend elsewhere given the choice. Looking forward to a long term review. ✌️
I don’t need the most powerful brake XT are more than good enough
Each to their own! I love XT brakes
Seen one of the comments there fake cant be if there oin the video keep up the great content
Narrow-minded people 🤷♀️
@@wolfpack_adventures requested to try these brakes myself waiting on a email from the company
Please share your feedback with me - I can almost guarantee it’ll be positive 😉
serious question, is this an ad or a completly unsponsored recommendation?
I asked to try a set, Lewis sent them to me. I tried them. And I think they are really good brakes.
Don’t believe me - then don’t see for yourself 🤷♀️
Pal what you weigh ? How tall are you? What pads are you using?
81kg
6 ft 1
semi metal pads
so youre pretty much a feather. Every breaks will feel powerful for you @@wolfpack_adventures
@@wolfpack_adventuressemi metal is my go to pad type
Ill start by saying youtube comments sections bring out the worst in people who quickly jump to conclusions and start spouting absolute nonsense. For those that see the iiipro or clarkes crs4 brakes and assume these are the same then please its not alex who needs to explain that .thats like calling a sheep a goat.
The trickstuff patented design is absolutely stunning and look absolutely premium and there 3 year patent ran out and they didnt renew it.
There is no need to licence the design if there are more than a percentage of design differences which there is.
Alex is 100% a genuine good egg one of the good guys and i trust his opinions and enjoy his thought process as much as henry quiney or seb stott .
Im going to get myself a pair .
One parting comment for the anti made in china brigade .
You knkw that comment you posted was on your made in china iphone dont you ..
I didnt know that brake manufacturers are using plastic pistons.. if thats the case, it will melt before it breaks. Correct me if im wrong.
What is her race?❤
The amount of hate and stupid comments are incredible. They took something that already existed and made it better. How do people think innovation advances? If they were an exact copy of the Maximas I would agree with all the people spitting hate. The issue is that they added features making them different and making them their own. How many different ways do you people think there are to making mtb brakes? 90% of brakes all are designed the same the only difference is being materials quality and housing shape. Get a grip ffs lads.
I've tried them. They are awesome. They are powerful. They are beautiful. They are NOT Ali Express level brakes lmao
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People please help me to get the word out about a serous flaw on many china floating brake disc ive tried several brands and they all have super thin cheap steel washers that can rust out in no time , when they must have stainless ! And many of these are being used on hight powerd ebikes , so they are allredy under sized for the speed potentially of the bikes.also the engineering in general in bike parts is looking more and more like they are asking mission critical parts to fail just so they can see how lite they can make parts ! Look at the shimino brake levers for example , you have to pay more money for the model that is properly braced and doesent flex , when they all should be made properly ! 😯
Everything about these brakes screams buy them, try them, but a thing I wish they had were holes for grip in the lever. How does the lever feel? is it slippery? That was a complaint the Trickstuff brakes had. I don't want to put grip tape on the lever.
But they said they did not do it, for strength. But they decided they will try it. so maybe we will see that.
I currently have Formula Cura 4 but they are not a valid option without RG Components lever upgrade, which is currently out of stock. A nice thing with Formula is that you can flip the lever, swap them around, no upside down, same lever body for left and right. But on the other hand, that's one extra bleed port on each lever body to worry about.
I suspect Lewis will be my next brake.
I have a set. The lever does not slip at all while wearing gloves. Not sure if it does if not wearing gloves. They are are powerful! Give them a go.
Sweet @@burn31
I'd pay $10,000 for a mtn bike if it was all carbon fiber & titanium. So it's super strong, yet very lightweight & rustproof. So it's the highest quality possible. Otherwise you're paying too much.
There seems to be a lot of hate on this post tonight. Cant be that bad if Alex is giving them the time of day.
🤷♀️ I have no idea what I’ve done wrong 😅 each to their own.
I’m sharing my opinion on these brakes and I’ve given my points, but hey… keyboard warriors will always be there punching away 😅
@@wolfpack_adventures well said and remember. A lion doesn't lose sleep over the opinion of sheep👍.
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Comment are negative but they loook nice as, for sure try them out if i could
🤷♀️ well worth a try - again, this is not a sponsored or paid for ad.
I got a pair of brakes. I tested them. I shared my feedback. And now people seem to hate on me 😅😂
@@wolfpack_adventuresnow everybody is trying the breaks out 😂 what a suprise
They look good and if they work just as good who cares if there fakes or not, if you have the money buy the maximas if your skint buy them from China if you want them from a dealer you can talk to them but buy these, literally who cares, Alex obvs liked them otherwise he wouldn't put the video up nobody is forcing you to watch it. Plus he must have some confidence in them to ride the DH street event with them
Thank you - at least someone has common sense.
I can still tell you that they are just as, if not more powerful as other brakes on the market
Are you sure touve not oartnered with them? Looks and sounds like an advert
If that’s what you think, maybe you shouldn’t take my advice 🤷♀️
@@wolfpack_adventures why not? I like your videos and tips just thought they should be paying you because you've done a great job of showing of there brakes. Made me want to try them
Do you have a dog, Alex?❤
I do :)
I love you ❤️
I love me too xx
The amount of Bot activity in the comments, and dodgy Ali Express brakes?....This smells fishier than a haddock factory.
Super fishy hey 🐟
Guessing this is Sponsored by Lewis... Went to their site and they look to be Chinese made?
Not sure if you realise how the economy works - many products are made in China / Taiwan.
Lewis Brakes are manufactured in Taiwan.
The video isn’t sponsored or paid for - they simply sent me a pair of brakes to try, and I made an honest review of them
Even Shimano parts are now made in China
Bro this is embarrassing that you would support such blatant IP theft. Basically tells me the rest of your opinions are only worth as much as the bag someone is willing to throw your way.
You are very pretty ❤🎉 Alex
Thanks 🙏
Lol you don't need anything more than a picture to tell that these are a ripoff of Trickstuff. Don't tell me to get them in my hands to confirm, it's not needed. Just seeing one picture says it all. Seeing a whole video means there's no reason to even argue it.
Wow 😂
They marketed like there American but on further research there made in china. I wonderd how they got the price so low, ill stick to my Japanese made shimano saints i think. Until i see the world cup guys running these, which i wont
You believe your Shimano Saint Brakes are manufactured in Japan?
Probably China or Malaysia.
The fact the saints say "Japan" on them and "product of Japan" on the box kinda gives it away.
@max-eb9vi yes it gives away they are not made in Japan, else it would say made in Japan. By saying product of Japan, they are trying to be clever and bend the truth. Like Whyte bikes so designed in England...
But cut short of saying where they are made on their slogan.
Product of Japan is not a "slogan" its a legal statement which depicts where they were made and in legal terms means the same as "made in Japan". Do you know why? Because they were made in japan. How you can say they are not made in Japan and its shimano being "clever" is actually beyond a joke. All you are doing is damaging what little credibility you had. It is like whyte bikes saying "designed in England" because they were designed in England. They could not state "made in" or "product of" England because they are not made in England. Like santa cruz are designed in California but by law have to state made in china on there frames because they are made in china (all be it in a santa cruz factory that is not used to make anything else) but thats a different story. You tell people to do there research in the comments but when someone like me has, you try and fob me off with statements that you have nothing to back it up with and try to discredit one of the largest names in the mtb industry that has done more for this sport than almost any other brand. In other words your mouths writing cheques that you're ass cant cash
6/10 Deez R fAkEs 🙃
Yes, of course…. They are fAkEeE🙄
Such a blatant trickstuff copies but just made really cheap in china and still sold here for 339, each to his own but not supporting this aliexpress scam.
Each to their own as you say,
However where did you get the idea that they are sold on aliexpress? Or thet they are ‘blatant’ Trickstuff copies?
Please do your research - and understand how innovation works.
Take something that’s proven to work and make it better - that’s what’s going on here.
These are not the same as trickstuff brakes.
Nothing else than cheap Trickstuff copies in 98 percent of the components.
Please share your reasoning why you think this.
I explained in the video about how ‘innovation’ works in any industry, with any product.
I know because I was Trickstuff CEO and the designer of Direttissima and Maxima brakes.
innovation and intellectual property theft are very different things.
1st chat!
welcome
Stop Promoting this trickstuff rip off
Hi there
Can you explain your point?
@@wolfpack_adventures this ist just a copy of the Trickstuff Maxima. Even the clap of the maxima fits the lewis brakes. I don’t know what’s more riling, China’s ability to copy and then somehow distribute somebody else’s intellectual property as their own, or the public’s willingness to buy the blatant copy as if that’s in any way all right. Shameful.
You dont even know how long you will get parts for this brake. I really hope Trickstuff is taking action against this under trademark law.
Fake tectro brakes😂
nope
Definitely not bro.
Fake TRICKSTUFF!
Trickstuff ripoffs?
Again…. Do your research 😅
Who cares if they a ripoff (or an iterative improvement) of Trickstuff. If they do a good job at a good price then 👍
Not shitting on them, patents run out all the time, just wondering if they are based on trickstuff bakes?
Alex, stop deleting my comments. These brakes are dropshipped at a 500% markup and you are promoting them on your channel. Loosing respect.
thats not true, Lewis is the company that manifactures them to begin with.
These brakes are not dropshipped. Please go do your research before jumping to conclusions and accusing me of deleting your comments.
@wolfpack_adventures I posted it 3 separate times, and it kept dissappearing- but I'll give you the benifit of the doubt. But these brakes are still £90 a set on Aliexpress and this company tries to scam people into paying $570 for them. They're not the only ones- Clarks also sell these brakes rebranded as the C4s, but these brakes are mass produced in China for pennies before being resold in the west.
I use these brakes absolutely not cheap brakes. These are super powerful. Very high quality with no corners cut.
The uk distributor looks fairly new and the address appears to be a ladbrooks in Grimsby. The insta page looks robotic. Alex seams to be the only genuine face behind the brand that I can find online in the uk so you will have to wait for more of these brakes to get onto bikes to get any real reviews that haven’t been sent to a TH-camr.
Chinese stolen project from Intend! Get the real shit with proper tolerances.
wow 😅another person who hasn’t done any research whatsoever 🤣
@@wolfpack_adventures i'm sure you did yours :)
Yeah, because im sure you know everything about their manufacturing and tolerances. Im borderline thinking most of these comments calling anything from china bad are xenophobic lmao.
@@poshpickle9024it's a long stretch between understanding my argument that is a copy of someone eleses work and calling someone xenophobic. Most of our best products come from China including your Apple phone (just an assumption) or my Android. What you did there is called hate speech.
@@fisher.mans_friends-fu8gt I didn't reply to you? And yes that assumption was wrong. Although I do agree that a lot of good things are made in China.
What is her race?❤