It’s a joke, hunter mains cry and cry about tanks but don’t realise that supports and solo’s being trash means more assassins and mages. I’d rather have a warrior diving me late game than an assassin or the enemy team having a second mage.
@SoftWilly408 it works hand in hand and nobody is happy. If you have more mages/assassins they still build the same as guardians/warriors most of the time. The issue with itemization on warriors this season started with having like 80% mitigation and being unkillable while still performing decent damage due to high base stats. Now the only issue I have is the fact that late game a warrior can still walk at me and nuke my health with full tank. I wouldn't have as much of an issue with it if sustain items held more value but currently with everyone picking up every anti heal item in the game you can't even outsustain the tanks. This is coming from a jungle/hunter point of view. Mages seem to be fine with this dumbass tablet build that let's them nuke everyone with 2 abilities
@@Warrior_Meta we’ll see how hard hunters cry when it’s a jungle Batz and solo Susano, or some broken combo of assassins diving them every game instead of the norm.
Hi-Rez: "we don't want tanks to do free damage with glad shield or warrior's axe that'd be op" Meanwhile Tank mages with tablet doing true dmg for free while building full tank with mana.
It’s definitely an item diff, Tablet gives so much flexibility since it fits in full damage builds or a lone damage item in a tanky build and then rings enable mage ADCs and Ao Kuang to run rampant
i just looked at the website used in the video. theres not enough data on those comps for them to be relevant. although i will say from my own experience running 5 hunters is extremely fun
IMO tho: 1- Hunters 2- Mage 3- Warriors 4- Assassins 5- Guardians I'm not that sure but you can probably swap warriors and assassins, they are quite similar
I would love to see a case study of how much damage warriors do outside of their laning. In my experience of diamond/masters games, warriors usually have most damage taken, mitigated, and 2nd most damage dealt in games 35 min or less. BUT at the same time, they still feel useless to play and I don’t feel threatened by warriors as a carry. Their stats just always seem inflated, so people think they’re OP
Finally a sensible take on warriors. Hate those adc players that complain warriors are op because they get clapped by them in teamfights (due to their poor positioning and lack of skill i guess)
I don't know who thinks their op? We are far removed from season 7 warriors rotating at level 12 and one-shotting whole teams..... season X you can barely get out of lane before mid and carry are full build and able to one shot everyone?......
I think a part of warriors problem is the loss of all hybrid items coupled with the strength of asi right now. Asi feels so bad to go against as a warrior in year 10 imo. If the hunter is worth their weight in items and their asi trigger is up and you can't finish them quickly with what you have off cooldown & glad shield they just shrug you off completely with life steal
Season 10 started out feeling great with the only major problem being surtr and contagion. Frontline felt good with plenty of different items to try, pretty much any assassin could jungle, most mages were good with mage adc taking over for obvious reasons. And hunters were fine just really struggling to get late with how strong mage adc were. Then each patch just felt worse to me. Frontline felt worse and worse. Hunters mostly felt the same throughout patches. Jungle felt more and more limited. And mages all felt super strong, like so strong why use anything else? Probably just me and I might be over exaggerating, but it has made me play less and enjoy the season less.
Assassins have a massive problem in general, almost every single one of them falls short late game, can't do anything without getting deleted before getting a single attack in. If you have a range ability, cool i guess. Strong early game, and then proceed to not be able to do crap, why be an assassin if you can just yolomage them with pure range mass area cc abilities and just crush them.
This is pretty accurate. As a support main it’s pretty damn frustrating to not be able to take more than like two or three hits and have to fall back rather then cover the team
funny as a solo mage you can build 1-2 damage items oneshot backliners and still be invulnerable but warrior solos get every item nerfed and baasically only deal damage if feed or at level 20 with a full sundering spear and starter.
For me is simply that people prefer to play mages. Even when you play other modes like arena, slash or assault the first role that are being filled is often mages (in case of assault people usually asks you to swap if they get like a guardian or warrior), so in conquest when you get solo or support you play a mage anyway because people don't know/want to play anything else, except maybe hunters
Mages should not be shred gods, warrior solos should not have to build max defense of each stat to feel tanky or do anything with their items, adcs shouldn't get buff to % extra DMG and build all their tools in one build. Supports should be allowed to itemize effectively against any situation like building winged or spectral and have those items be good and relevant for them and their team and not be behind for doing so. Warriors shouldn't have to build one path and 0 power. Assassin's shouldn't get free pen and cd in their primary build patb to the point where they worry about over capping both too easily. I play support, jg, solo, mid pretty much anything but adc but Got damn does this ring true. Genuinely think warriors are in the worst most boring place ever. Heartward spam or phys def into mit, or magic into phys def required items so you do anything. We need to seriously reconsider the hybrid removal, being back witchblade, make some kinda magical witchblade which limits ability casts or anti abilities like nox, make decent ass items that help warriors and guardians, and hell buff warflag cause why I gotta be lowest gold for that if one lane feeds I lose out on gold?? Why. A few gods should be broken this meta that aren't because of exactly build restrictions in solo and support, because you need max max to be tanky some gods are unplayable, tankier gods with heals are op by comparison but still underperforming but still make others irrelevant. Everything is just so bleh rn. I lost the point of the rant but you get the picture
For whatever it's worth, it feels worth mentioning that I play a lot of Slash and the place has been infested with double and triple mage comps lately, and it feels like Surtr is the only warrior I see anyone but myself playing. Guardians feel like they might be fairing better, but my perception of that is skewed by my most frequent duo queue partner being a guardian main.
So, the simplest explanation for why warriors are underrepresented IMO is that they mirror mages, iirc warriors have the fewest gods with the least flexibility (I think the majority of the mage for warrior comps were assassins in solo and mage JG, as he bo and ao kuang are strong and people like playing assassins)
as someone who just switched to a solo main after many seasons in mid, it's most definitely solo lane to blame. Trying to force players to play melee characters in lane is highly volatile, and nobody wants to get killed in lane five times cause they don't know what to level or buy or how to clear safely. if you aren't playing against a surtyr or hades it very often a ranged character or one with a lot of escape. if you aren't trying to sweat every game blind picking a lane that is very match-up dependent, it makes more since to pick stuff for fun or lane clear since most warriors and guardians you would see in solo struggle to even clear without using all their buttons and can have their clear countered easily (think guan or tyr).
it's pretty obvious that mages are super busted right now, just too much damage on the mages and nothing even remotely comparable on the physical side especially after the assassin passive nerf.
People saying warriors are useless when we literally just came out of more than a year of them dominating everything. Even right now some of the strongest gods are warrior. Now as to why they are only played in solo is very easy to understand. There was a time when people ran warriors in the jungle --> they nerfed / reworked all of those so they couldn't anymore. Still, some are still somewhat viable but because of the recent Assassin passive they aren't as good at pressuring the mid lane. Could change next patch if they give more farming in the jungle. A few people play warriors in support --> in reality there's only very few of them who can fill this role, most of the time people will just pick a warrior to deal a ot of damage and pressure the ennemy lane very early. The issue is, if it's not done correctly you'll most likely not have a support for the rest of the game as they'll fall behind. They should add more Horus like warriors A couple of warriors actually work decently for the carry role (Bellona or Amaterasu come to mind), however both of them are just not really good right now and it's been the case for quite some time. The new shape of the lane also isn't that favorable to them, because you'd have to get pretty far from your tower to reach your opponent. Now Warriors in mid is a tricky thing. There was a time when you could build full hybrid, be unkillable and deal more damage than any mage you'd face, but that time is pretty much over so you'll have to build full damage and since Warriors aren't really able to get in and get out like assassins can, that often means you'll have to comit every single fight and also die hoping you'll at least trade. You also can build flash (at least first relic) cause sitting in mid lane, full damage without beads or aegis is basically suicide. It's not like warriors have no flexibility, it's just that Hi-Rez doesnt like to see them outside of the solo lane and right now the map isn't also that favorable to them flexing in other roles.
The problem I can see is that there are literally twice as many mages as there are warriors. With mages having a lot of flex and warriors not having almost any it is quite easy to see why there is such a difference. Warriors are designed to take hits and mages are designed to hit hard. There is a saying 'if there is no enemy there is no need for defense' and that is what is going on. People go more offensive than defensive and warriors really can't keep up. Additionally magic damage is better than physical damage. Most of everything, at least in Conquest, does Physical damage(Towers, Camps, & I think Pheonixes) and most gods have higher physical defense than magical defense. Assassins and Hunters build pen to mitigate physical defense. Mages can fit pen into anything because their pen options are great. Warriors usually don't build pen so they can't keep up with damage, also the fact tank items took a hit doesn't help. There are a ton of things stacking against the warriors that are pushing them out. I remember a guide a while back that was an overview top 5 picks for roles and warriors only had 2 total spots: 1 for Jungle and 1 for Solo. Either warriors need a buff to be able to do their jobs or mages need a nerf to make them less appealing in Solo.
The best warrior items just got nerfed and their items are poo while hunters got giga buffed with the 7% dmg increase on qins and a ton of true damage was introduced
Well, we are doomed. Fucking Mages solo are "better" than warrior in regular matches. At least it makes sense, most of my teammates try and dive them instead of stealing camps and rotating while their solos are babysitting their towers.
There is about zero balance right now, warriors, except for like a few outliers, are complete junk, 90% of adc's go 5-15 at the 20 minute mark, assassins become basically cannon fodder later on, and then we have mages, mages can do every fucking role in the game, you THINK they might be overtuned just a bit? Tablet simply needs to be removed, they should have never included that.
The main reason warriors suck imo is that they don't bring much to the table for the teams they go on besides perhaps peel warriors underperform compared to mages and assassin's because tanks are bad this season as well warriors see even less use so warriors fall into a hard neiche where to perform well they have to do extremely well and 9/10 of those top match played Warriors are probably suter lol
I know you love them and the solo lane but warriors both suck AND are the community at large find them unfun to play against. When they don't suck, people complain about them because they're unfun to play against. That then gets them nerfed which leads to them being bad which stops them from being picked up at all. And then they are still unfun to play against so they get more nerfs anyways. I would love to hear opinions on this, but I also feel you might ignore it even if you see this. I think you like warriors because you like playing them, and its less irritating to fight a warrior as a tank.
Lets be realistic, sololane warriors absolutely suck in ranked and so have they since the infamous 9.5 patch that almost killed the game. Even if you are better than the other sololaner, if he is not straight up inting you are never gonna solokill him since your damage output simply is not enough, and the longer the lanning phase advances, the least kill potential you have, overall its real hard to make a lead in solo without depending on your team rotating for ganks or buff invades. Later on, midgame is not THAT bad, you are decently tanky and are threatening to the enemy backline but that happens in a pretty small time window, lets say between your first rotation around minute 12 and minute 20, and that's assuming both teams are even, cause if your team is even slightly losing the 4v4 that smite has turned into, you are basically useless. And then not to talk about lategame, where you are simply a high HP punching bag that W keys at the enemy expecting to get some follow up while on your own you are not even capable of dealing half of the HP of a backliner with your whole kit without getting deleted
It's definitely the versatility of the mage class more so than it's power level. There's plenty of mages that suck in mid but perform well in other roles, and I feel like the majority of smite players go to a mage for a change up in their role or if they need to flex out of physical damage to avoid having a one sided comp. Don't get me wrong, there are op mages, but I feel like you could say the same about at least one god from each class.
Mage has the biggest roster out of any roll at 36 gods, which is over a quarter of the total gods in the game, while guardian and warrior have the smallest amount at 22 and 20 respectively.
Sometimes you pick a role and your team has other plans and just picks their fave character or the amount of times I've rolled support and picked an adc by accident I'm probably part of that % causing the outliers hahahaha sorry
Warriors are dogshit now, I used to be feared now people just run past me laugh spamming and kill my Carrie’s while I hit them with some cc and a 35 damage auto. Now I’ve joined the dark side and run hunters in solo, why tank when you can kill their tank with 3 autos then kill everything else.
Something that also helps justify the lower winrates is that tank players usually are worser than other players, so a team with mostly warriors/guardians is possible that they just pick those because they can't play other classes.
I can see tank players being mechanically bad, however above me makes an interesting observation. It may just be tank balance and the fact that damage will always beat defense comps
Wow they really said F warriors in all of those stat lines huh XD I mean seems about right it’s not very fun to play them like there no balance you do between damage and tankiness to not get smacked by true damage and assassins. Only fun warriors are like herc, surtr, and maybe mulan…personally everything else I don’t bother
Bro it’s wack that warriors are so under used because they’re the most overpowered class. Literally never take a single point of damage and always deal the most damage on your team…… warriors are op and hi Rez knows it.. lol they’re smart to nerf warrior items because they already are the strongest class.
they're op in low ranks where your team doesn't have the hand eye co-ordination to just turn and kill them when they dive you. In anything above gold, the median skill rank, people have the basic ability to help one another in a team fight.
@@keyzzz9798 bro warriors are never bad. They literally never take damage. I literally watch every match as my solo 1v5 and kills someone and then gets out at full hp.. freaking cracked.
@@TheGreatDanish ahh well I guess in your games they are sucking but I play with friends who are warrior and solo mains and they slap every time even in plat. So I guess in your games they’re just not building good items or playing the role correctly. Either way there’ll be no convincing you that they’re good so I will just leave it at that.
It’s almost like taking away a warriors itemization will make the class completely useless
It’s a joke, hunter mains cry and cry about tanks but don’t realise that supports and solo’s being trash means more assassins and mages. I’d rather have a warrior diving me late game than an assassin or the enemy team having a second mage.
@@RossC667 That’s what I was thinking. It’s easier to kite a warrior or to atleast get away from them
@SoftWilly408 it works hand in hand and nobody is happy. If you have more mages/assassins they still build the same as guardians/warriors most of the time. The issue with itemization on warriors this season started with having like 80% mitigation and being unkillable while still performing decent damage due to high base stats. Now the only issue I have is the fact that late game a warrior can still walk at me and nuke my health with full tank. I wouldn't have as much of an issue with it if sustain items held more value but currently with everyone picking up every anti heal item in the game you can't even outsustain the tanks. This is coming from a jungle/hunter point of view. Mages seem to be fine with this dumbass tablet build that let's them nuke everyone with 2 abilities
@@Warrior_Meta we’ll see how hard hunters cry when it’s a jungle Batz and solo Susano, or some broken combo of assassins diving them every game instead of the norm.
A L M O S T
Hi-Rez: "we don't want tanks to do free damage with glad shield or warrior's axe that'd be op"
Meanwhile Tank mages with tablet doing true dmg for free while building full tank with mana.
Me yesterday fighting a full tank Baba Yaga that has Tablet and second timeline as their only damage and the Baba is bodying the entire team.
Tiamat in grounded stance doing obscene damage while feeling tankier than most warriors be like
Oh jeez imagine things being tanky when you build them that way.
Yeah but you have to build an item without defense.
@@teejay1646 well you shouldn't give someone tankiness and true damage at the same time tho
imagine that 66% win rate comp is just the same 5-stack pulling the comp out every now and then and just destroying with it.
Or smurfs 😂
I mean there is a good chance that if it isnt picked few 1000 times that the same people keep playing in those comps
@@ManiacClear i think it was me and my boys smurfing...
It’s definitely an item diff, Tablet gives so much flexibility since it fits in full damage builds or a lone damage item in a tanky build and then rings enable mage ADCs and Ao Kuang to run rampant
Every mage adc and au kuang has built in sustain and the itemization gives them life steal easily. Bring back shadow steel shurniken
@@ryanmackey6091 for real or rework toxic blade into something useful
@@PumaPants248 toxic blade feels punishing to build and there’s not really a good place to build it
@Ryan Mackey shadowsteel doesn't fix that problem and if you're building right you 3-5 shot them
Damn was hoping you’d put the win rate of pure class comps like all mage or all assassin. Really curious on those
i just looked at the website used in the video. theres not enough data on those comps for them to be relevant. although i will say from my own experience running 5 hunters is extremely fun
IMO tho:
1- Hunters
2- Mage
3- Warriors
4- Assassins
5- Guardians
I'm not that sure but you can probably swap warriors and assassins, they are quite similar
Some say they are just able to play every role. I say I'm sick of taking 2k in true damage in one fight because there's two mages.
Tank full defense, get deleted in 2 seconds cause of true damage, balanced.
I would love to see a case study of how much damage warriors do outside of their laning.
In my experience of diamond/masters games, warriors usually have most damage taken, mitigated, and 2nd most damage dealt in games 35 min or less.
BUT at the same time, they still feel useless to play and I don’t feel threatened by warriors as a carry.
Their stats just always seem inflated, so people think they’re OP
Finally a sensible take on warriors. Hate those adc players that complain warriors are op because they get clapped by them in teamfights (due to their poor positioning and lack of skill i guess)
Warrior stats are over represented because they box a ton in lane
I don't know who thinks their op? We are far removed from season 7 warriors rotating at level 12 and one-shotting whole teams..... season X you can barely get out of lane before mid and carry are full build and able to one shot everyone?......
I think a part of warriors problem is the loss of all hybrid items coupled with the strength of asi right now. Asi feels so bad to go against as a warrior in year 10 imo. If the hunter is worth their weight in items and their asi trigger is up and you can't finish them quickly with what you have off cooldown & glad shield they just shrug you off completely with life steal
Hirez: In conclusion, nerf warriors
Season 10 started out feeling great with the only major problem being surtr and contagion. Frontline felt good with plenty of different items to try, pretty much any assassin could jungle, most mages were good with mage adc taking over for obvious reasons. And hunters were fine just really struggling to get late with how strong mage adc were. Then each patch just felt worse to me. Frontline felt worse and worse. Hunters mostly felt the same throughout patches. Jungle felt more and more limited. And mages all felt super strong, like so strong why use anything else? Probably just me and I might be over exaggerating, but it has made me play less and enjoy the season less.
That's the best summary of how this season is going.
Assassins have a massive problem in general, almost every single one of them falls short late game, can't do anything without getting deleted before getting a single attack in. If you have a range ability, cool i guess. Strong early game, and then proceed to not be able to do crap, why be an assassin if you can just yolomage them with pure range mass area cc abilities and just crush them.
This is pretty accurate. As a support main it’s pretty damn frustrating to not be able to take more than like two or three hits and have to fall back rather then cover the team
funny as a solo mage you can build 1-2 damage items oneshot backliners and still be invulnerable but warrior solos get every item nerfed and baasically only deal damage if feed or at level 20 with a full sundering spear and starter.
5:46 “Maybe you aren’t here to win games but to lose them” Sounds like my teammates 😅😂
“But warriors OP”
so glad i could inflate the triple hunter comp numbers by spamming anhur jungle
mfw "but tanks are op" guys seeing the lowest winrate are tank heavy comps
No shit a tank wouldnt work in mid or adc
@@ploopyttt6536 Atlas mid
@@ploopyttt6536 jorm
tanks are OP because mages are OP and tanks can stun for the mages to 1 shot.
mages are the largest and most versatile class so this is what i would expect
For me is simply that people prefer to play mages. Even when you play other modes like arena, slash or assault the first role that are being filled is often mages (in case of assault people usually asks you to swap if they get like a guardian or warrior), so in conquest when you get solo or support you play a mage anyway because people don't know/want to play anything else, except maybe hunters
This is a season I've played.
i was not expecting the many mages by 50 cent lol
This was the best part 😂
Cute
Pretty much all gods are mages. They could stop making mages for the next ten years and then there will still be more mages then the rest.
ok... so I wasn't imagining things when I lose all my warrior games but win my jungle games...
Yeah I lose all of my warrior games unless I play someone like Bellona
I’m still loving the game right now and I play basically every role because I never get the roles I want when I want.
Mages should not be shred gods, warrior solos should not have to build max defense of each stat to feel tanky or do anything with their items, adcs shouldn't get buff to % extra DMG and build all their tools in one build. Supports should be allowed to itemize effectively against any situation like building winged or spectral and have those items be good and relevant for them and their team and not be behind for doing so. Warriors shouldn't have to build one path and 0 power. Assassin's shouldn't get free pen and cd in their primary build patb to the point where they worry about over capping both too easily. I play support, jg, solo, mid pretty much anything but adc but Got damn does this ring true. Genuinely think warriors are in the worst most boring place ever. Heartward spam or phys def into mit, or magic into phys def required items so you do anything. We need to seriously reconsider the hybrid removal, being back witchblade, make some kinda magical witchblade which limits ability casts or anti abilities like nox, make decent ass items that help warriors and guardians, and hell buff warflag cause why I gotta be lowest gold for that if one lane feeds I lose out on gold?? Why. A few gods should be broken this meta that aren't because of exactly build restrictions in solo and support, because you need max max to be tanky some gods are unplayable, tankier gods with heals are op by comparison but still underperforming but still make others irrelevant. Everything is just so bleh rn. I lost the point of the rant but you get the picture
For whatever it's worth, it feels worth mentioning that I play a lot of Slash and the place has been infested with double and triple mage comps lately, and it feels like Surtr is the only warrior I see anyone but myself playing. Guardians feel like they might be fairing better, but my perception of that is skewed by my most frequent duo queue partner being a guardian main.
What do you mean that warriors are underrepresented? We are in a tank meta ; )
not even close, they have nerfed almost every tank item being bought........
Mid laners: Mages are the most hated class.
Mages:
So, the simplest explanation for why warriors are underrepresented IMO is that they mirror mages, iirc warriors have the fewest gods with the least flexibility (I think the majority of the mage for warrior comps were assassins in solo and mage JG, as he bo and ao kuang are strong and people like playing assassins)
Ah finally, I’ve been looking for a new Smite API compiler since it seems that casualsmite has given up.
“Maybe your not trying to win games but actually to lose them” teammates in my random matches 🤬
as someone who just switched to a solo main after many seasons in mid, it's most definitely solo lane to blame. Trying to force players to play melee characters in lane is highly volatile, and nobody wants to get killed in lane five times cause they don't know what to level or buy or how to clear safely. if you aren't playing against a surtyr or hades it very often a ranged character or one with a lot of escape. if you aren't trying to sweat every game blind picking a lane that is very match-up dependent, it makes more since to pick stuff for fun or lane clear since most warriors and guardians you would see in solo struggle to even clear without using all their buttons and can have their clear countered easily (think guan or tyr).
Is this data before or after they made warriors useless?
Who would’ve thunk it. The more bursty/flexible classes are more prevalent.
Legit just stopped playing smite for like a month, and I don't see myself playing again any time soon
it's pretty obvious that mages are super busted right now, just too much damage on the mages and nothing even remotely comparable on the physical side especially after the assassin passive nerf.
People saying warriors are useless when we literally just came out of more than a year of them dominating everything.
Even right now some of the strongest gods are warrior.
Now as to why they are only played in solo is very easy to understand.
There was a time when people ran warriors in the jungle --> they nerfed / reworked all of those so they couldn't anymore. Still, some are still somewhat viable but because of the recent Assassin passive they aren't as good at pressuring the mid lane. Could change next patch if they give more farming in the jungle.
A few people play warriors in support --> in reality there's only very few of them who can fill this role, most of the time people will just pick a warrior to deal a ot of damage and pressure the ennemy lane very early. The issue is, if it's not done correctly you'll most likely not have a support for the rest of the game as they'll fall behind. They should add more Horus like warriors
A couple of warriors actually work decently for the carry role (Bellona or Amaterasu come to mind), however both of them are just not really good right now and it's been the case for quite some time. The new shape of the lane also isn't that favorable to them, because you'd have to get pretty far from your tower to reach your opponent.
Now Warriors in mid is a tricky thing. There was a time when you could build full hybrid, be unkillable and deal more damage than any mage you'd face, but that time is pretty much over so you'll have to build full damage and since Warriors aren't really able to get in and get out like assassins can, that often means you'll have to comit every single fight and also die hoping you'll at least trade. You also can build flash (at least first relic) cause sitting in mid lane, full damage without beads or aegis is basically suicide.
It's not like warriors have no flexibility, it's just that Hi-Rez doesnt like to see them outside of the solo lane and right now the map isn't also that favorable to them flexing in other roles.
Here we go
The problem I can see is that there are literally twice as many mages as there are warriors. With mages having a lot of flex and warriors not having almost any it is quite easy to see why there is such a difference. Warriors are designed to take hits and mages are designed to hit hard. There is a saying 'if there is no enemy there is no need for defense' and that is what is going on. People go more offensive than defensive and warriors really can't keep up. Additionally magic damage is better than physical damage. Most of everything, at least in Conquest, does Physical damage(Towers, Camps, & I think Pheonixes) and most gods have higher physical defense than magical defense. Assassins and Hunters build pen to mitigate physical defense. Mages can fit pen into anything because their pen options are great. Warriors usually don't build pen so they can't keep up with damage, also the fact tank items took a hit doesn't help. There are a ton of things stacking against the warriors that are pushing them out. I remember a guide a while back that was an overview top 5 picks for roles and warriors only had 2 total spots: 1 for Jungle and 1 for Solo. Either warriors need a buff to be able to do their jobs or mages need a nerf to make them less appealing in Solo.
Mages are good but it's really just that warriors are dog rn
Even now some People will say nahhh solos are to strong bruh when will the buff us again? Ohh never? I see I see
Burst beats DPS
Survivability beats Burst
DPS beats Survivability
Why is it that Mages break this chain in MOBAs? I'm curious
BUFF SOLOS!!!
Edit: And nerv Cabra i hate him
This season is just rough for solo IMO also cab is lowkey trash
Based
Now everybody in my casual and rank games is going to do this and they'll all be 0/7 gg.
Hera guardian snowballs.
Warrior items are good but Warriors are not may be a way to explain?
The best warrior items just got nerfed and their items are poo while hunters got giga buffed with the 7% dmg increase on qins and a ton of true damage was introduced
Well, we are doomed. Fucking Mages solo are "better" than warrior in regular matches. At least it makes sense, most of my teammates try and dive them instead of stealing camps and rotating while their solos are babysitting their towers.
I just need you to know I just won an assault game 4 assassins 1 mage against a normal comp.
There is about zero balance right now, warriors, except for like a few outliers, are complete junk, 90% of adc's go 5-15 at the 20 minute mark, assassins become basically cannon fodder later on, and then we have mages, mages can do every fucking role in the game, you THINK they might be overtuned just a bit? Tablet simply needs to be removed, they should have never included that.
They really should rename Mage class to Flex Class...
Can't wait till they buff warrior items again so they're the most hated class in the game again
this is the best season I've ever played
The main reason warriors suck imo is that they don't bring much to the table for the teams they go on besides perhaps peel warriors underperform compared to mages and assassin's because tanks are bad this season as well warriors see even less use so warriors fall into a hard neiche where to perform well they have to do extremely well and 9/10 of those top match played Warriors are probably suter lol
I know you love them and the solo lane but warriors both suck AND are the community at large find them unfun to play against.
When they don't suck, people complain about them because they're unfun to play against.
That then gets them nerfed which leads to them being bad which stops them from being picked up at all. And then they are still unfun to play against so they get more nerfs anyways.
I would love to hear opinions on this, but I also feel you might ignore it even if you see this. I think you like warriors because you like playing them, and its less irritating to fight a warrior as a tank.
Lets be realistic, sololane warriors absolutely suck in ranked and so have they since the infamous 9.5 patch that almost killed the game. Even if you are better than the other sololaner, if he is not straight up inting you are never gonna solokill him since your damage output simply is not enough, and the longer the lanning phase advances, the least kill potential you have, overall its real hard to make a lead in solo without depending on your team rotating for ganks or buff invades. Later on, midgame is not THAT bad, you are decently tanky and are threatening to the enemy backline but that happens in a pretty small time window, lets say between your first rotation around minute 12 and minute 20, and that's assuming both teams are even, cause if your team is even slightly losing the 4v4 that smite has turned into, you are basically useless.
And then not to talk about lategame, where you are simply a high HP punching bag that W keys at the enemy expecting to get some follow up while on your own you are not even capable of dealing half of the HP of a backliner with your whole kit without getting deleted
9.5 did not almost kill the game are you high?
@@CFallescence Guess losing almost 60% of the playerbase and getting adcs played on 3+ roles every single game is not killing the game
It's definitely the versatility of the mage class more so than it's power level. There's plenty of mages that suck in mid but perform well in other roles, and I feel like the majority of smite players go to a mage for a change up in their role or if they need to flex out of physical damage to avoid having a one sided comp. Don't get me wrong, there are op mages, but I feel like you could say the same about at least one god from each class.
Mage has the biggest roster out of any roll at 36 gods, which is over a quarter of the total gods in the game, while guardian and warrior have the smallest amount at 22 and 20 respectively.
Every item has magic pen making it so mages kill adcs AND tanks
mage is a flexible class with a lot of flexible gods that can go to multiple roles, so this really doesn’t surprise me at all
Not fucking with you, me and the lads love spaming assasins and blaster guardians so cant say it 100% but we might be to blame
Sometimes you pick a role and your team has other plans and just picks their fave character or the amount of times I've rolled support and picked an adc by accident I'm probably part of that % causing the outliers hahahaha sorry
Warriors are dogshit now, I used to be feared now people just run past me laugh spamming and kill my Carrie’s while I hit them with some cc and a 35 damage auto. Now I’ve joined the dark side and run hunters in solo, why tank when you can kill their tank with 3 autos then kill everything else.
I would love to see happy chime noises (a lol creator focused on odd picks ) style videos !
Something that also helps justify the lower winrates is that tank players usually are worser than other players, so a team with mostly warriors/guardians is possible that they just pick those because they can't play other classes.
The exact same rates are true at masters+... legit just a tank balance issue lol
I can see tank players being mechanically bad, however above me makes an interesting observation. It may just be tank balance and the fact that damage will always beat defense comps
Mages are cancer,every one wants to run them but they suck with them and they don’t care.😂
Make warriors great again.
Wow they really said F warriors in all of those stat lines huh XD I mean seems about right it’s not very fun to play them like there no balance you do between damage and tankiness to not get smacked by true damage and assassins. Only fun warriors are like herc, surtr, and maybe mulan…personally everything else I don’t bother
Really liked the look of this season but the dev team just makes some lame changes
The Loki rework was the beginning of the dumb lazy changes that have ruined the game.
😢😢😢 wArRiOrs aRe BrOkEn
This is the best season I have ever played
Tldr more mages equals better
So dont pick a warrior if you want to win😂
Wow it seems like warriors are not the best pick even in their specialized role
So op nerf warriors beaindead
This is the worst season iv ever played
sezon 4 was worse imo but just a bit, sezon 5 tho was great
But you have played it. *pirates of the Caribbean reference*
It was amazing in the beginning and then they ruined it
@@rapidtreal4612 I started season 4 and solo lane was so fucking boring I’d say probably 70% of the games were against bellona
You must have missed early season 9
The game is in the worst state it has ever been.
This is just solo laner propaganda
Warriors are dogshit lmao ain't no way else to say it
Bro it’s wack that warriors are so under used because they’re the most overpowered class. Literally never take a single point of damage and always deal the most damage on your team…… warriors are op and hi Rez knows it.. lol they’re smart to nerf warrior items because they already are the strongest class.
Warriors are bad right now, what are you saying?
they're op in low ranks where your team doesn't have the hand eye co-ordination to just turn and kill them when they dive you. In anything above gold, the median skill rank, people have the basic ability to help one another in a team fight.
@@keyzzz9798 bro warriors are never bad. They literally never take damage. I literally watch every match as my solo 1v5 and kills someone and then gets out at full hp.. freaking cracked.
@@TheGreatDanish ahh well I guess in your games they are sucking but I play with friends who are warrior and solo mains and they slap every time even in plat. So I guess in your games they’re just not building good items or playing the role correctly. Either way there’ll be no convincing you that they’re good so I will just leave it at that.
@@keyzzz9798 Trust him, he knows things from his gold rankeds xD
This is the best season I have ever played