I understand that some of the Andrew's raiders of the Great Locomotive chase fame may have had a few of this gun's after the General ran out of steam a few members along with their Leader nearly had a gun fight with some Johnny Rebels who was chasing after them. I have read that Andrews's Gun had fancy grips
The deal with a Minie ball is that it's smaller than the bore so it'll ram down the barrel more easily (upon firing, the back of the bullet balloons out to create the tight fit). Revolver bullets don't need to be undersized as they're not rammed down the barrel at all.
Another one is, if the info i got is correct, he was among the first, and ONLY people to ever have a "wild west shootdown" recorded. He actually nailed a dude who had won his pocket watch in a card game, and violated his behest to never wear it in public. The offender shot, and missed, and Hickok killed him with one shot from, like, 75 yards? An amazing piece of work, if the account is accurate. Later, some little f****r came in and shot Hickok in the back of the head as he was at cards. Can't remember all the details, but the account sounded legit. Do check it
If I’m not mistaken, the Colt Navy was the revolver directly chosen by the confederate states during the civil war. This is part of the reason why pretty much every confederate made revolver was a .36 caliber instead of .44
The 1851 was prolific during the war, though confederates used a myriad of handguns due to the nature of their strained supply lines and trouble sustaining large contract orders because of their depleted coffers.
One cool fact about the battle of Campeche is that is was the only naval battle in world history where a sail ship sunk a steam powered ship(it took 2 Texas sail ships to sink the Mexican steam one but still sank). Also I really enjoyed the video and learned a lot, don't stop making them.
The Colt Navy is truly a Gunfighter’s Pistol. The white ivory grips makes the pistol more flashy ( and in this case I like that). Thank You for another well produced video for the public to enjoy and learn from. Have only Happy Trails!
Ivory was reasonable tough (elephants dig roots with those tusks daily, and billiard balls were ivory) but carvable, and even polished ivory has a surprising bit of "grip" against your skin, even when covered in sweat or (yep) blood.
I’ve got a Navy I built from a CVA kit in the early 80’s. I ordered it from JC Penny or Sears catalog when I was 12 or 13 I can’t remember. I built several black powder kits in the 80’s including a Hawken rifle, I also have a factory Thompson Center Hawken.
Thank you again Santee, for keeping the old west alive ! I own a replica 3rd model Colt Dragoon in .44 and a 1858 Remington . NOW I HAVE TO BUY ANOTHER ONE ! Also buy some bullet molds , and cleaning tips in that caliber , and a holster, and polymer white grips ( those looking very nice) . Up side …… TOYS !
After a year of shooting an 1851 reproduction in .36, I tend to take it shooting more often than the .44, 9 mm, or .357. It’s a wonderfully ergonomic pistol with just enough power to be effective.
Great episode. Dustin's paper cartridge makers are awesome, work great, and easy to use to make uniform size rounds with. I love my Pietta reproduction Colt Navy .36 Caliber 1851 Revolver. I also have a .44 fantasy version 1851. Both are good shooters and very accurate. My first real love of guns are my cap and ball percussion and flint locks. Hey! Where was Rex? 🦖 😁
Good video as always, Santee. Now do a video on the 1858 Remington. Most people think of the army model and don't realize, or know, that it came in both .44 and .36. The navy version is the one I plan on getting, if I can ever find one. For those that may not know, a .44 caliber cap & ball revolver was commonly referred to as an army and the .36 as a navy, whether or not they were used by either branch of service.
I always liked the look of the 1860 Army better. The lines are just so smooth. The Navy has the lines of a dump truck while the Army looks like a sports car.
I wish we still had that balance of functionality and aesthetics that's represented in the percussion colts. That philosophy is pretty much just relegated to cars in the modern era.
Darn you, Santee! I spent the whole day looking at replica cap and ball revolvers. Now I gotta get one. Those look pretty cool to shoot. You have to respect some one who can skillfully shoot something that is not very reliable nor accurate. Compared to today's standard.
You're probably in for a nice surprise! Of course, there is the occasional lemon, but, more often than not these guns can shoot! Don't take my word for it : th-cam.com/channels/W0IxWRnGCgwz76F9jRGF7g.html
I find it funny how in the 1800s so many popular knife and gun patterns were manufactured in England, yet nowadays, England and technically most of the UK has some of the most restrictive knife and gun laws in the entire world.
Chain fires are not a problem as long as you get a small ring of lead on the cylinder mouth after loading the ball. Using crisco or some other stuff over the loaded chamber is just a bunch of horse poo. Black powder will start to foul things up around the cylinder after awhile. Pyrodex is cleaner but still needs attention after awhile. I have a London model Uberti 1851 like yours and love it. I also have several other cap and ball Colt reproductions and a Remington 44 which fouls up faster than the Colts. You will hear that soldiers carried an extra cylinder for quick reloads while on horseback. Yeah, right! More horse poo. Colt only sold revolvers with one cylinder. Imagine trying to swap cylinders on horseback during battle. By the time you got the barrel wedge out you'd be on the ground. You have a fine pistol there. A little lithium grease on the cylinder base pin helps but too much oil on these guns really gums things up fast. Have fun with it!
I will have fun it. Yeah, there's a lot of conjecture about the "carrying additional cylinders" thing. If you are really worried about a shooting engagement, oughta just pack two guns!
@@ArizonaGhostriders Try out the Colt 1860 Army 44 and 1861 Navy 36 when you get a chance. Streamlined and with ratchet loading levers. The 1860 is my favorite BP revolver!
I love the Colt Navy and the 44 Remington. They shoot great and actually have good stopping " power" with conical bullets and a good powder load recommend for the guns.
In theory, with the right load, it will achieve similar ballistics to several modern handgun cartridges considered suitable for self defense. Though, I suppose that in the age before hemostatic gauze, pressure bandages, and practical tourniquets most anything spitting a projectile would have been best stood behind.
@@auburn696 The 1851 is about equal to a .380 ACP. and the 1860 Army is closer to a .45 ACP. Not the type of magnum power we expect today but very deadly
Thoroughly enjoyed this Santee. I use both revolver and semi auto guns in my work but am enjoying learning about their predecessors. I had a police chief that wanted to carry his original Navy Colt on duty but couldn't due to laws dictating what LEOs could carry.
How old was this police chief? We can't have people potentially getting killed because some nostalgic officer wants to carry outdated technology and has a cap jam or needs more than 6 shots to put down an active shooter.
Just amazing. Speaks to the practicality of the weapon. Very safe, and, if one knows how, can provide almost as much fire, and as fast as the more modern guns. Not the capacity, obviously, but methinks in most real deals, the first 2-3 shots will decide the outcome. Can't say, never having been a cop. Hope i never have to learn firsthand. God bless that Police Chief. I think i want to live in a town like that
That intro was great. I inherited my 1851 navy from girlfriends grandfather. He was a luthier and a mechanist, lovely cared for the thing all his life. During his ailing years, it sat in the case he made for it, and slowly gummed up. I've taken the care to replace parts and file everything down so it runs like clockwork again. If only I could find caps and powder, had it for 2 years now and still haven't gotten to shoot my smoke wagon. XD
@@ArizonaGhostriders The mixup98 channel just did a presentation on his .38 snubbies using AMMO Incorporated cartridges from a small manufacturer in Arizona. Perhaps you 2 could get together and suggest they could market niche a line of percussion caps, something worth stockpiling since there's a shortage regular channels are neglecting. Then you can do percussion demos.
This was one of my first six-shooters, and for percussion, my favorite. It has the right combination of heft, power and accuracy for my particular taste. It's not hard to load and if you grease it right you can leave it loaded for weeks without compromising dependability. It is a good looking piece and comfortable to handle. All in all, well done design. Thanks for the highlight. Best of Days.
I remember being a very young man, newly married, and not having a lot of money. The first hangun I purchased from trading post up in Bondurant Wyoming was a kit gun, 1851 in 36 caliber. Now, I own several bp revolver. A variety of Walkers, 51's, 60's, 58's, and a Gunnison in 36. It is major addictive. By the way, I just bought a new Uberti Cattleman in 44-40. I now own two in that caliber. Wahoo. I loved thus episode. Thanks my friend.
Congrats Santee on your new London model revolver. It would be fun to see you become another Wild Bill with that hogs leg. I bet you could take the cohones of a mosquito at 1,000 paces with both eyes closed and your hands tied behind your back with that thing. After all it fires ball ammunition so why not? Thanks for another great video Santee! U da man
@@ArizonaGhostriders I know, right?! I always keep my eyes out. We’ve found a few railroad spikes from the 1870s while riding our mountain bikes, but no historic firearms…yet
Your firearms videos are always interesting & I have a couple observations; They must have been pretty good or lucky to see through all that smoke & they musta had big pockets for the "pocket models".
Who thinks they went about _hiding_ their pocket guns in that pocket? They could just use pocket as a makeshift holster. You wouldn't want to lose precious seconds trying to find the pistol's grip within your pocket, when you can just have the grip protruding out from the top.
Hey Santee! I guess we can conclude that the famous Colt Navy Six revolver was the gun which tamed the Wild West? By the way, do you happen to know the make of the gun which Steve McQueen carried in the western series, "Wanted Dead Or Alive"? I am not familiar with guns but it looks like a sawed off shotgun or may be a long barreled pistol like the Colt Navy Six. Thanks for another video showcasing America's great western heritage! I always look forward to Saturday mornings watching your channel. Have a great weekend!
The Colt Navy is my favorite handgun. I carried the Colt Navy as a Confederate Cavalry and Confederate Guerrilla reenactor. I also carried the Griswold and Gunnison. My next 2 handguns will be The Man with no name colt navy. They are made to take a 38 cartridge. I plan to add ivory grips.
The first black powder firearm I owned was a reproduction 1851 Navy Colt. Bought used for $10. I was 16 yoa and would carry it with me when hunting. One of the luckiest shots I ever made was with that revolver. My brother, aged 9, was with me squirrel hunting, he with a shotgun me with a rifle. We saw a squirrel at about 30 yards. He said, "Betcha can't hit him with your pistol." I pulled that smoke pole, aimed low, (they all shoot high at that range) at let fly. To my surprise, the squirrel fell out dead, shot through the head. Of course I told my brother I did it by skill. He would brag to everyone about my ability with the revolver. Now, almost 50 years later, I haven't told him any different.
Lol that 51 navy is very pretty. I get so used to originals seeing them with a nice new finish is quite striking. Its so crazy watching my 49 pocket be on 3 TH-camrs channels i have been watching for a long time. My little 49 pocket is becoming famous. Most people dont know this. but watch 11 bang bangs gun actions videos and you can watch me buy that 49 pocket. Also looks like dustin is really having fun with it.
Hey Santee, what are some techniques that were used when preparing a campsite on the frontier? What tools and methods were the most common? I've been rewatching your videos all over again while replaying Red Dead Redemption 2. Sometimes I'll put on some western movies, but I mostly have Arizona Ghostriders playing in the background.
Dave Rodgers never lubes and has never experienced a chain fire. There is some great info on the misinformation regarding chain fires in his article on Navies (link in the description field).
It was so popular it was made up until the 1873 year and a lot of Gunslingers civilians and outlaws used them in the 1880s as they were cheap relatively easy to disassemble and could be converted if they wanted. The single action Army was used primarily in the military and was used by Farmers and cowboys but only when they became cheaper. But even when they came out they used them. Also the Cap and ball guns were pretty strong 💪 considering the 1847 percussion revolver remained the strongest revolver until the 1900s. Also it was the most popular gun of the outlaws gunslingers and civilians and military. 250,000 -275,000 1851 Navy’s were made between 1851 and 1873 It was more beautiful looking was nicer to hold in the hand was easy to work with and came with conversions in the latter half on the 1800s. Also it was cheap to purchase so many could probably own two of them as when the single action came out it cost a lot money. The 1851 was sturdy attractive and cheap. Also the 1858 Remington another popular gun was also very popular due to strap and sturdiness. A lot of military preferred it over the 1860 colt. The Navy revolver was used in Europe during the Franco Prussian war and used in Australia by the Edward Kelly gang and Victorian police. We also got the 1858 Remington in Australia and even Asia got the 1858 Remington. If you watch quigley down under you do see a few colt navy’s being used. If you looked after your piece it would last you your whole life.
Glad to see you guys doing a collaboration video. It wasn't long after subbing to Dustin's channel that I got my first black powder pistol. It would be great to see you doing some shooting Santee, especially BP. Great video, stay safe.
I remember a TH-cam channel of Metal Detection found one of these babies in an old Battle Site in Argentina , from around the 1860s .Their popularity was hardly matched .The fact that they are popular even today shows it .
As important as it was it's an ugly weapon : barrel bigger than the cylinder , handle too small for a hand grip. I like the remington better for the design looked more coordinated
The .36 Navy model is my favorite percussion revolver. My replicas were Piettas but the Ubertis are best, I think. Colt Signature Series reproductions can be found on GunBroker and GunAuction, occasionally. I have some dug, .36 caliber bullets from the battlefields around Atlanta. Gen. Lee carried a Colt Navy, it was very popular. With a conical bullet it is about like a modern .380 in power.
@@ArizonaGhostriders Piettas are fine. They shoot good. Avoid "Magnum" percussion No. 11 caps, and check frequently for squashed, spent caps blocking the hammer fall over the back strap. Modern caps are hotter than 1860s ones. 👍
Great video, thanks for educating me! I stumbled upon the Navy Colt in Red Dead Online and didn't know it uses paper instead of cartridges. I wish Red Dead would point some of those interesting facts out a bit more. Not necessary for the gameplay, but some additional depth to the (already pretty deep) game.
The Colt Navy was truly iconic and very popular in its time. It was so popular that it was still arm of choice even when the equally iconic Colt Army was very popular at the same time.
It was produced from 1851 t0 1873 , replaced in production by the SAA. Official sources say that 272,000 were produced.. Thanks for solid history here.
Awesome video Santee!! I love BP firearms, they're such a blast to shoot...no pun intended. Never got around to getting one yet though, mainly for price reasons and when I went to look they didn't have the model that I was looking for. One day I'll get it. See you on down the trail!!!
I’ve got the Navy Colt my great great grandfather carried in the civil war. I’ve got the bullet mould and holster he used too. His initials, the same as my dad’s, are scratched into the butt strap.
Well good morning Santee. The best part of my Saturday morning. A cup of coffee, and an Arizona Ghostriders video. Stay safe out there, and take it easy man. Thanks for the new video.
How cool would it be if Colt made a limited run of reproductions on the Pattersons, Walker, Dragoon series (Whitneyville Dragoon/Transitional Walker, 1st Model, 2nd Model, 3rd Model and Baby Dragoon pocket), 1851 Navy, and 1860 Army? I think everyone in the black powder world would live a modern reproduction from Colt!
You should do a video one one of clint eastwoods spaghetti western. Like "a fistful of dollars" or "for afew dollars more" and the best one "the good the bad and the ugly"
I own a .36 Colt Navy from Pietta. Pre-pandemic, I stocked up on caps big time figuring they would be short later. Don't shoot it much, but when I do it hits what I aim it at. Just remember to aim a little low. My load is 20 grains.
Good morning Santee imagine been in a war or any gunfight an having to reload the gunpowder an balls bet they got real pro at it. Definitely a fine looking weapon mate. Have a blessed week ahead my friend
Yes! Great vid, Santee. Welcome to the world of real smoke wagons... since there's none of that new-fangled smokeless powder. Have fun shooting yer targets... if you can see them after 2 or 3 shots! 😉😁 Fun fact, while I wouldn't suggest an 1851 as a primary EDC, they can be. I often carry mine (left hip, "cavalry" (butt forward) draw) alongside my M1911, or Remington "1858" (.45 Colt conversion), knowing that my Six is very reliable, especially as a back-up. It was a good choice for defense (and, um, offense... simmer down Bill) back then, for a reason. Like you mentioned, James Butler Hickok had some Sixes, and it was allegedly an 1851 that he shot Davis Tutt with... at 75 yards!
Ooohhh such a sweet piece of bang right there!!! I have an Italian repro of the brass frame Confederate clone and it is a sweetheart. I like loading blanks on the 4th of July with slower rifle powder... It sure gets messy but that long flash and wagon sized cloud of smoke is so worth it!!! Keep it up!
@@ArizonaGhostriders I forgot to mention that for the blank charge I up the load a bit because there is no bullet.... I actually use a compressed charge and felt wadding with lots of Bore Butter to prevent chain firing. I also use Bore Butter for lubricant and that seems to work better than other lubes and keeps all of my BP guns cleaner than normal. Hope this helps!!
Santee Just watched your 1851 presentation. Well Done. As to that Notorious Woods Gang, I was in the comments that night for your live chat. I also had some dealings with 11bangbang. I swapped a southpaw flinter to Garrett for a 1858 New Army Remington 36. There show and yours are some of my favorites on YT. Keep up the work and keep the West Alive!
Correction: the conical bullet pictured is not a minié ball (even though they are both conical)
Well, it could be a mini ball…
I understand that some of the Andrew's raiders of the Great Locomotive chase fame may have had a few of this gun's
after the General ran out of steam a few members along with their Leader nearly had a gun fight with some Johnny Rebels who was chasing after them. I have read that Andrews's Gun had fancy grips
@@eliotreader8220 interesting find..
The deal with a Minie ball is that it's smaller than the bore so it'll ram down the barrel more easily (upon firing, the back of the bullet balloons out to create the tight fit). Revolver bullets don't need to be undersized as they're not rammed down the barrel at all.
Bought one of these about a month ago finding very difficult to get ammo nice gun though Chris uk 😊
Fun Fact: One of Wild Bill’s Navy was sold for $.25 at the time of his death… recently was auctioned for $525,000
Right. RIA. You can watch the auction online.
@@ArizonaGhostriders yes I loved the navy it was beautiful with white handle and carved designs
Another one is, if the info i got is correct, he was among the first, and ONLY people to ever have a "wild west shootdown" recorded. He actually nailed a dude who had won his pocket watch in a card game, and violated his behest to never wear it in public. The offender shot, and missed, and Hickok killed him with one shot from, like, 75 yards? An amazing piece of work, if the account is accurate. Later, some little f****r came in and shot Hickok in the back of the head as he was at cards. Can't remember all the details, but the account sounded legit. Do check it
@@kellymontgomery1293 … I love it
If I’m not mistaken, the Colt Navy was the revolver directly chosen by the confederate states during the civil war. This is part of the reason why pretty much every confederate made revolver was a .36 caliber instead of .44
The Confederates had knock-offs of the pistol as well.
@@ArizonaGhostriders That they did, I believe the Griswold and Gunnison is the most common confederate knock off
Mosby and his men only carried a brace of 44 colts ,and extra cylinders
The 1851 was prolific during the war, though confederates used a myriad of handguns due to the nature of their strained supply lines and trouble sustaining large contract orders because of their depleted coffers.
One reason for .36 over .44 . Less lead per round so more rounds to the pound.
One cool fact about the battle of Campeche is that is was the only naval battle in world history where a sail ship sunk a steam powered ship(it took 2 Texas sail ships to sink the Mexican steam one but still sank). Also I really enjoyed the video and learned a lot, don't stop making them.
I appreciate the extra info!
The Colt Navy is truly a Gunfighter’s Pistol. The white ivory grips makes the pistol more flashy ( and in this case I like that). Thank You for another well produced video for the public to enjoy and learn from. Have only Happy Trails!
Much appreciated!
Have two replicas. Love the way they balance.
Ivory was reasonable tough (elephants dig roots with those tusks daily, and billiard balls were ivory) but carvable, and even polished ivory has a surprising bit of "grip" against your skin, even when covered in sweat or (yep) blood.
I’ve got a Navy I built from a CVA kit in the early 80’s. I ordered it from JC Penny or Sears catalog when I was 12 or 13 I can’t remember. I built several black powder kits in the 80’s including a Hawken rifle, I also have a factory Thompson Center Hawken.
Cool
That is one beautiful Navy!!! I love all the old revolvers and pistols of the 1800’s.
It is!
Thank you again Santee, for keeping the old west alive ! I own a replica 3rd model Colt Dragoon in .44 and a 1858 Remington . NOW I HAVE TO BUY ANOTHER ONE ! Also buy some bullet molds , and cleaning tips in that caliber , and a holster, and polymer white grips ( those looking very nice) . Up side …… TOYS !
Thank you! Much appreciated!
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Five-Star, Two Gunfighter-Thumbs-up on this episode Santee.
Thanks, amigo!
After a year of shooting an 1851 reproduction in .36, I tend to take it shooting more often than the .44, 9 mm, or .357. It’s a wonderfully ergonomic pistol with just enough power to be effective.
Great to know you still like shooting it.
Thanks again , Santee and Co .
Our pleasure!
Awesome video Santee I love hearing about old west guns 👊🍻🥃🤠
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Great episode. Dustin's paper cartridge makers are awesome, work great, and easy to use to make uniform size rounds with. I love my Pietta reproduction Colt Navy .36 Caliber 1851 Revolver. I also have a .44 fantasy version 1851. Both are good shooters and very accurate. My first real love of guns are my cap and ball percussion and flint locks. Hey! Where was Rex? 🦖 😁
He was with Garret in Kansas (saddlebag shot).
Good video as always, Santee. Now do a video on the 1858 Remington. Most people think of the army model and don't realize, or know, that it came in both .44 and .36. The navy version is the one I plan on getting, if I can ever find one.
For those that may not know, a .44 caliber cap & ball revolver was commonly referred to as an army and the .36 as a navy, whether or not they were used by either branch of service.
Did one on Remmies!
@@ArizonaGhostriders How long ago? I don't remember it.
@@ArizonaGhostriders D'OH! I just found it. I had even commented on it about how Remington did their own factory conversions to centerfire cartridges!
I have an original Remington Beal's Navy, which was the model before the New Model, which is what people refer to as the "1858"
@@RichWhiteUM I might do another on specific ones if they pertain to a certain person out West.
And now I am thinking about getting back into cap and ball guns.
They are more fun with paper cartridges, in my opinion.
Another great Saturday episode thank you so much! 🤠🤠🤠🤠🤠🤠
You're welcome.
I am more thankful than I can put to words that Italy produces Old West Firearms, I hope they still are when I get a chance to own my own some day
Hope so, too!
Santee finally got a chance to say "and we'll see you on down the trail' WITHOUT being interrupted!!!!!!!! This is a sign of the apocalypse!
LOL!
I need to get me another one I haven't had a black powder in years but they are a hell of a lot of fun!
Yes they are.
I just got mine. I’m so excited !!
Awesome! Enjoy it.
I have a pair of "fantasy" .44 Navy's that I really enjoy shooting.
Cool!
Awesome Santee can't wait 4 the paper cartridge video.have u ever done a video the Gatlin gun cartridge??
I haven't. Heck just shot my first one a few weeks ago!
Have one and love it
They are great firearms
Reminds me of what they would have used in Tombstone 😊😊
Some of them at least!
Quigley down under with Tom selleck he had one and Alan Rickman also used one in the movie
I always liked the look of the 1860 Army better. The lines are just so smooth. The Navy has the lines of a dump truck while the Army looks like a sports car.
Opinions are like belly buttons. We all have 'em and they are all different.
I wish we still had that balance of functionality and aesthetics that's represented in the percussion colts. That philosophy is pretty much just relegated to cars in the modern era.
Me too.
Ah, the 1851 - the "Bullets Without Borders" Colt
LOL!
Darn you, Santee! I spent the whole day looking at replica cap and ball revolvers. Now I gotta get one. Those look pretty cool to shoot. You have to respect some one who can skillfully shoot something that is not very reliable nor accurate. Compared to today's standard.
You're probably in for a nice surprise! Of course, there is the occasional lemon, but, more often than not these guns can shoot! Don't take my word for it : th-cam.com/channels/W0IxWRnGCgwz76F9jRGF7g.html
HAH! Well, sorry to give you the "bug"!
Santee,
Can you make a video about Jim Miller?
Yes
Can you do a video on the type of boots And shoes that were common at the time
I've done one!
I have this Gun, the only thing I don't care for is it has a Hair Trigger. I also have DUSTINS paper cartridge maker.
Great gun, great kit!
Hey Santee, how about giving the Remington New Model Army equal time?
I did one on Remingtons, but will break them down into the different models like I did the Colt.
@@ArizonaGhostriders Sounds great. Thank you.
I find it funny how in the 1800s so many popular knife and gun patterns were manufactured in England, yet nowadays, England and technically most of the UK has some of the most restrictive knife and gun laws in the entire world.
Sadly, many countries who produced fine firearms have serious restrictions.
Chain fires are not a problem as long as you get a small ring of lead on the cylinder mouth after loading the ball. Using crisco or some other stuff over the loaded chamber is just a bunch of horse poo. Black powder will start to foul things up around the cylinder after awhile. Pyrodex is cleaner but still needs attention after awhile.
I have a London model Uberti 1851 like yours and love it. I also have several other cap and ball Colt reproductions and a Remington 44 which fouls up faster than the Colts.
You will hear that soldiers carried an extra cylinder for quick reloads while on horseback. Yeah, right! More horse poo. Colt only sold revolvers with one cylinder. Imagine trying to swap cylinders on horseback during battle. By the time you got the barrel wedge out you'd be on the ground.
You have a fine pistol there. A little lithium grease on the cylinder base pin helps but too much oil on these guns really gums things up fast. Have fun with it!
I will have fun it. Yeah, there's a lot of conjecture about the "carrying additional cylinders" thing. If you are really worried about a shooting engagement, oughta just pack two guns!
@@ArizonaGhostriders Try out the Colt 1860 Army 44 and 1861 Navy 36 when you get a chance. Streamlined and with ratchet loading levers. The 1860 is my favorite BP revolver!
@@CaliforniaFly I have. Both are great guns
I am curious where they found that pistol, if it was new? I haven't seen any in a long time.
Those fellers deal with a lot of auctions and estate sales.
Can you do one about trappers in the old west?
Did one on Mountain Men...does that help?
Yes
I have a question: is there any records of There beinging any Swedish people in the wild West @Arizona Ghostriders
Tons of them.
Add duelist to your group.
Shootist, duelist, gun-toter, pistoleer, gun-fighter...lotsa monikers.
I got two and love em both though im a holster.guy not one day for wearing them in a sash!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, the sash makes me nervous
@@ArizonaGhostriders since bill wore slim Jim holsters I wonder if those weren't tucked under the sash................
Excellent point!
Why is it called a "octagonal barrel" ?
Because it's 8-sided.
I got of 'em....one fer each of ya!
LOL! Thank you, Doc
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Hey Santee,My name is Miller can you do a dressing the part episode for the Texas Rangers,
Miller
Yes
I love the Colt Navy and the 44 Remington. They shoot great and actually have good stopping " power" with conical bullets and a good powder load recommend for the guns.
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In theory, with the right load, it will achieve similar ballistics to several modern handgun cartridges considered suitable for self defense. Though, I suppose that in the age before hemostatic gauze, pressure bandages, and practical tourniquets most anything spitting a projectile would have been best stood behind.
@@auburn696 The 1851 is about equal to a .380 ACP. and the 1860 Army is closer to a .45 ACP. Not the type of magnum power we expect today but very deadly
Thoroughly enjoyed this Santee. I use both revolver and semi auto guns in my work but am enjoying learning about their predecessors. I had a police chief that wanted to carry his original Navy Colt on duty but couldn't due to laws dictating what LEOs could carry.
Thank you!
What a shame. Let the old warrior pick his choice of weapon.
How old was this police chief? We can't have people potentially getting killed because some nostalgic officer wants to carry outdated technology and has a cap jam or needs more than 6 shots to put down an active shooter.
@@BertieW0oster but then again it was a police chief.
Just amazing. Speaks to the practicality of the weapon. Very safe, and, if one knows how, can provide almost as much fire, and as fast as the more modern guns. Not the capacity, obviously, but methinks in most real deals, the first 2-3 shots will decide the outcome. Can't say, never having been a cop. Hope i never have to learn firsthand. God bless that Police Chief. I think i want to live in a town like that
That intro was great. I inherited my 1851 navy from girlfriends grandfather. He was a luthier and a mechanist, lovely cared for the thing all his life. During his ailing years, it sat in the case he made for it, and slowly gummed up. I've taken the care to replace parts and file everything down so it runs like clockwork again. If only I could find caps and powder, had it for 2 years now and still haven't gotten to shoot my smoke wagon. XD
I can't find caps either!
@@ArizonaGhostriders The mixup98 channel just did a presentation on his .38 snubbies using AMMO Incorporated cartridges from a small manufacturer in Arizona. Perhaps you 2 could get together and suggest they could market niche a line of percussion caps, something worth stockpiling since there's a shortage regular channels are neglecting. Then you can do percussion demos.
@@richardkluesek4301 Great idea!
@@ArizonaGhostriders If I win the lottery I'll open up my own outfit and go into competitive production.
@@richardkluesek4301 Do it!
This was one of my first six-shooters, and for percussion, my favorite. It has the right combination of heft, power and accuracy for my particular taste. It's not hard to load and if you grease it right you can leave it loaded for weeks without compromising dependability. It is a good looking piece and comfortable to handle. All in all, well done design. Thanks for the highlight. Best of Days.
Thank you!
I'm curious what you think of the Remington of the same era and how it measures up to the Colt Navy?
Keep in mind that the grease will melt in the heat.
@@eldorados_lost_searcher I like the Remington better (my opinion). I find it easier to load and more sturdy. Again, this is my opinion!
@@garymi2 Yep. Colt didn't recommend greasing them.
I remember being a very young man, newly married, and not having a lot of money. The first hangun I purchased from trading post up in Bondurant Wyoming was a kit gun, 1851 in 36 caliber. Now, I own several bp revolver. A variety of Walkers, 51's, 60's, 58's, and a Gunnison in 36. It is major addictive. By the way, I just bought a new Uberti Cattleman in 44-40. I now own two in that caliber. Wahoo. I loved thus episode. Thanks my friend.
You're welcome, Ralph. Yeah, you have nice pistolas, pard.
@@ArizonaGhostriders Si, como no. Ha ha ha
My favorite of the cap and ball revolvers! Thanks for the video Santee!
You're welcome.
Congrats Santee on your new London model revolver. It would be fun to see you become another Wild Bill with that hogs leg. I bet you could take the cohones of a mosquito at 1,000 paces with both eyes closed and your hands tied behind your back with that thing. After all it fires ball ammunition so why not? Thanks for another great video Santee! U da man
HAHAHAHAA!!
Awesome to know about the older Colts. I have a Colt that was my grandfathers
Keep it and pass it down the family line
@@ArizonaGhostriders I intend to
I’ve been waiting for this one. Thanks Santee and friends! Still wondering if there’s one abandoned somewhere here in the hills of Prescott, AZ
I bet there is in some mine...just waiting to be found.
@@ArizonaGhostriders I know, right?! I always keep my eyes out. We’ve found a few railroad spikes from the 1870s while riding our mountain bikes, but no historic firearms…yet
@@AZHighlandHomestead Maybe you'll find a gold nugget...then it won't matter what gun you find!
@@ArizonaGhostriders 😂 👍
I had one and sadly got rid of it.
Slick, Slick, Slick....
What am I gonna do with you??
Your firearms videos are always interesting & I have a couple observations; They must have been pretty good or lucky to see through all that smoke & they musta had big pockets for the "pocket models".
HA! yes. Well, think of a pocket on a suit coat. Pretty roomy. Sack coats had those pockets.
Who thinks they went about _hiding_ their pocket guns in that pocket? They could just use pocket as a makeshift holster.
You wouldn't want to lose precious seconds trying to find the pistol's grip within your pocket, when you can just have the grip protruding out from the top.
Hey Santee! I guess we can conclude that the famous Colt Navy Six revolver was the gun which tamed the Wild West? By the way, do you happen to know the make of the gun which Steve McQueen carried in the western series, "Wanted Dead Or Alive"? I am not familiar with guns but it looks like a sawed off shotgun or may be a long barreled pistol like the Colt Navy Six. Thanks for another video showcasing America's great western heritage! I always look forward to Saturday mornings watching your channel. Have a great weekend!
Isn't that a lever action "mare's leg"?
@@markbranham6365 Thanks, Mark!
@@ArizonaGhostriders Thanks, Santee!
The Colt Navy is my favorite handgun. I carried the Colt Navy as a Confederate Cavalry and Confederate Guerrilla reenactor. I also carried the Griswold and Gunnison. My next 2 handguns will be The Man with no name colt navy. They are made to take a 38 cartridge. I plan to add ivory grips.
Nice Eric. I hope you'll share some pics.
Black grips. Roy goode
The first black powder firearm I owned was a reproduction 1851 Navy Colt. Bought used for $10. I was 16 yoa and would carry it with me when hunting. One of the luckiest shots I ever made was with that revolver. My brother, aged 9, was with me squirrel hunting, he with a shotgun me with a rifle. We saw a squirrel at about 30 yards. He said, "Betcha can't hit him with your pistol." I pulled that smoke pole, aimed low, (they all shoot high at that range) at let fly. To my surprise, the squirrel fell out dead, shot through the head. Of course I told my brother I did it by skill. He would brag to everyone about my ability with the revolver. Now, almost 50 years later, I haven't told him any different.
Let's hope he doesn't read this comment!
Our 5 year old nephew is all excited about the new T-Rex that has evidently moved onto the ranch lol
HAHA! Awesome.
Love this weapon. I use a non-firing replica for a lot of my Western photo shoots.
That works! Many of them are nice looking
Our most famous Aussie bushranger Ned Kelly had one. Thanks mate
You bet
The very best account of the Navy Colt I've seen in book or video. Well done! I really like your new intro too.
Much appreciated!
Thank you very much for the shout out!!
You're very welcome! Got some of that info from your channel, boss!
Lol that 51 navy is very pretty. I get so used to originals seeing them with a nice new finish is quite striking. Its so crazy watching my 49 pocket be on 3 TH-camrs channels i have been watching for a long time. My little 49 pocket is becoming famous. Most people dont know this. but watch 11 bang bangs gun actions videos and you can watch me buy that 49 pocket. Also looks like dustin is really having fun with it.
Snapper, that piece is amazing, as are your other originals no doubt. Thanks for acquiring these and taking care of them.
@@ArizonaGhostriders thanks Santee. Really looking forward to watching you shoot your 51 navy.
great collaborative video pards! *LIKED* the video and I'll be sure to watch for you "on down the trail" --LT
Cool!
Santee, you all did it again. Fast paced, great information, terrific pics, videos, and audios, ALWAYS interesting... 👏🤠👏👏🤠👏
Much appreciated!
The aesthetic beauty of the Colt Navy survived well beyond its time
It does!
oh, dude. it is gun porn
Hey Santee, what are some techniques that were used when preparing a campsite on the frontier? What tools and methods were the most common?
I've been rewatching your videos all over again while replaying Red Dead Redemption 2. Sometimes I'll put on some western movies, but I mostly have Arizona Ghostriders playing in the background.
Watch my bedrolls video for a starter, then in the future I'll do a camp video
1:39 That movie is accurate , Mexicans love Big Irons by their sides .
LOL!
Kit for making paper cartridges.... No gun to put them in. We all know what Dirty Dan would say about that. 😆
We do.
Excellent Santee. I have a few black powder myself. They are fun to shoot. Just be careful to lube the cylinder. Chain fires are not fun. Cheers!
Dave Rodgers never lubes and has never experienced a chain fire. There is some great info on the misinformation regarding chain fires in his article on Navies (link in the description field).
@@ArizonaGhostriders great information. I haven't fired mine in a long time. Probably the rounds were too small. Thanks!
@@TimKoehn44 You're welcome. We aim to all learn something around here!
It was so popular it was made up until the 1873 year and a lot of Gunslingers civilians and outlaws used them in the 1880s as they were cheap relatively easy to disassemble and could be converted if they wanted.
The single action Army was used primarily in the military and was used by Farmers and cowboys but only when they became cheaper. But even when they came out they used them.
Also the Cap and ball guns were pretty strong 💪 considering the 1847 percussion revolver remained the strongest revolver until the 1900s.
Also it was the most popular gun of the outlaws gunslingers and civilians and military. 250,000 -275,000 1851 Navy’s were made between 1851 and 1873
It was more beautiful looking was nicer to hold in the hand was easy to work with and came with conversions in the latter half on the 1800s. Also it was cheap to purchase so many could probably own two of them as when the single action came out it cost a lot money.
The 1851 was sturdy attractive and cheap. Also the 1858 Remington another popular gun was also very popular due to strap and sturdiness. A lot of military preferred it over the 1860 colt.
The Navy revolver was used in Europe during the Franco Prussian war and used in Australia by the Edward Kelly gang and Victorian police. We also got the 1858 Remington in Australia and even Asia got the 1858 Remington.
If you watch quigley down under you do see a few colt navy’s being used.
If you looked after your piece it would last you your whole life.
🤠 Thanks for watching and learning!
Real good episode. Not an easy gun to spin. Have fun with that one.
I thought Terrence Hill did a commendable job with is backward sping into the holster.
@@ArizonaGhostriders, he did and did great with every pistol he used.
This is also my go to revolver in Red Dead Online.
Whether in the game or in real life, it just FEELS right.
Great balance, action and accuracy.
Glad to see you guys doing a collaboration video. It wasn't long after subbing to Dustin's channel that I got my first black powder pistol. It would be great to see you doing some shooting Santee, especially BP. Great video, stay safe.
Glad to hear it.
I remember a TH-cam channel of Metal Detection found one of these babies in an old Battle Site in Argentina , from around the 1860s .Their popularity was hardly matched .The fact that they are popular even today shows it .
Absolutely.
As important as it was it's an ugly weapon : barrel bigger than the cylinder , handle too small for a hand grip.
I like the remington better for the design looked more coordinated
Funny, many think the Remington is an ugly weapon compared to the Navy. Oh well, opinions are like belly buttons, right? All different.
The .36 Navy model is my favorite percussion revolver.
My replicas were Piettas but the Ubertis are best, I think.
Colt Signature Series reproductions can be found on GunBroker and GunAuction, occasionally.
I have some dug, .36 caliber bullets from the battlefields around Atlanta.
Gen. Lee carried a Colt Navy, it was very popular. With a conical bullet it is about like a modern .380 in power.
Some say Pietta's are best. They both have their issues, but you can work on them and get them to fine shape.
@@ArizonaGhostriders Piettas are fine. They shoot good. Avoid "Magnum" percussion No. 11 caps, and check frequently for squashed, spent caps blocking the hammer fall over the back strap. Modern caps are hotter than 1860s ones. 👍
Great video, thanks for educating me! I stumbled upon the Navy Colt in Red Dead Online and didn't know it uses paper instead of cartridges. I wish Red Dead would point some of those interesting facts out a bit more. Not necessary for the gameplay, but some additional depth to the (already pretty deep) game.
Very cool!
The Colt Navy was truly iconic and very popular in its time. It was so popular that it was still arm of choice even when the equally iconic Colt Army was very popular at the same time.
Yes.
It was produced from 1851 t0 1873 , replaced in production by the SAA. Official sources say that 272,000 were produced.. Thanks for solid history here.
@@brianfuller757 No problem. More Navies produced than the Armies. Kinda interesting.
WESTERN TV SHOWS ...was a great classroom for me as a kid...
I concur!
Awesome video Santee!! I love BP firearms, they're such a blast to shoot...no pun intended. Never got around to getting one yet though, mainly for price reasons and when I went to look they didn't have the model that I was looking for. One day I'll get it. See you on down the trail!!!
Much appreciated!
you guys should do a video on holster decorations in the movies and in the old west!
Pretty sure I did. I'll do more in the future.
I was give a Italian repro of the colt 1851, lord can't wait to shoot it.
COol!
Great video, could you please tell me the cost of a colt navy in 1851
somewhere around $3.15
I’ve got the Navy Colt my great great grandfather carried in the civil war. I’ve got the bullet mould and holster he used too. His initials, the same as my dad’s, are scratched into the butt strap.
That's amazing family history right there. Cherish it!
Cool!😎
The most expensive Navy Colt was owned by famous Danish Navy Captain True Story I know i'm danish 🇩🇰
Very cool!! I bet it's highly engraved
Very cool! I have a couple Remington cap and ball revolvers, I like the sights and the solid frame better than the open top colts
Graet guns
Did some Navy owners put the Army grips on their pistols? For the Army grips being bigger? Thanks!
You'd have to replace the whole grip frame, but it can be done.
My first revolver was an 1851. Couldn't imagine trying to reload during a gunfight. 😆
I doubt you really would. It would have to be a long one!
Well good morning Santee. The best part of my Saturday morning. A cup of coffee, and an Arizona Ghostriders video.
Stay safe out there, and take it easy man. Thanks for the new video.
Thanks, you too!
How cool would it be if Colt made a limited run of reproductions on the Pattersons, Walker, Dragoon series (Whitneyville Dragoon/Transitional Walker, 1st Model, 2nd Model, 3rd Model and Baby Dragoon pocket), 1851 Navy, and 1860 Army? I think everyone in the black powder world would live a modern reproduction from Colt!
Maybe!
You should do a video one one of clint eastwoods spaghetti western. Like "a fistful of dollars" or "for afew dollars more" and the best one "the good the bad and the ugly"
Yes.
I have a1851 Navy Brass .44 7/2' made by Pietta
Great gun, right?
I own a .36 Colt Navy from Pietta. Pre-pandemic, I stocked up on caps big time figuring they would be short later. Don't shoot it much, but when I do it hits what I aim it at. Just remember to aim a little low. My load is 20 grains.
Sounds like that works pretty well for ya!
Good morning Santee imagine been in a war or any gunfight an having to reload the gunpowder an balls bet they got real pro at it.
Definitely a fine looking weapon mate.
Have a blessed week ahead my friend
Thank you! The Confederate guerillas carried more than one so they didn't have to reload.
Another awesome episode Santee! Always enjoy your gun episodes. Still working on that info for investing in the old west.
Thanks, Robert. We'll get there. I just cashed in some life insurance, so maybe I ain't smart enough to do that episode myself!
Hey Santee Dixie Gun Works has all the Supplies and Repro Guns for these, Lee precision sell's bullet molds for conical and ball just FYI Happy Trails
@@keithmaxwell2169 Cool, thanks!
I have a Colt brevet…..Manhattan Arms 1851 made around 1862 I believe ….not a colt but better than an Italian reproduction.
Manhattan Arms made a ton o' guns back then.
Yes! Great vid, Santee. Welcome to the world of real smoke wagons... since there's none of that new-fangled smokeless powder. Have fun shooting yer targets... if you can see them after 2 or 3 shots! 😉😁
Fun fact, while I wouldn't suggest an 1851 as a primary EDC, they can be. I often carry mine (left hip, "cavalry" (butt forward) draw) alongside my M1911, or Remington "1858" (.45 Colt conversion), knowing that my Six is very reliable, especially as a back-up. It was a good choice for defense (and, um, offense... simmer down Bill) back then, for a reason. Like you mentioned, James Butler Hickok had some Sixes, and it was allegedly an 1851 that he shot Davis Tutt with... at 75 yards!
Oh, black powder and I go back a long way. We appreciate each other.
Ooohhh such a sweet piece of bang right there!!! I have an Italian repro of the brass frame Confederate clone and it is a sweetheart. I like loading blanks on the 4th of July with slower rifle powder... It sure gets messy but that long flash and wagon sized cloud of smoke is so worth it!!! Keep it up!
Hey that's a great idea!! THANKS!!!
@@ArizonaGhostriders Thank you!
@@ArizonaGhostriders I forgot to mention that for the blank charge I up the load a bit because there is no bullet.... I actually use a compressed charge and felt wadding with lots of Bore Butter to prevent chain firing. I also use Bore Butter for lubricant and that seems to work better than other lubes and keeps all of my BP guns cleaner than normal. Hope this helps!!
@@nagjrcjasonbower Thank you! It does.
I have a Leech & Rigdon 36 cal. Bought from Dixi Gunshop many years ago. Fun to shoot. Good video!
Thanks!
Santee Just watched your 1851 presentation. Well Done. As to that Notorious Woods Gang, I was in the comments that night for your live chat. I also had some dealings with 11bangbang. I swapped a southpaw flinter to Garrett for a 1858 New Army Remington 36. There show and yours are some of my favorites on YT. Keep up the work and keep the West Alive!
Thanks, Grey PIlgrim! Yeah, those guys are pretty good folks.
@@ArizonaGhostriders btw: th-cam.com/users/pilgrimm23