Mercedes-Benz W204 Facelift - The Most Solid Modern Benz? | EvoMalaysia.com
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Another note for anyone looking out for early CGi's, if there is blue smoke on cold starts 99% workshops will tell you its the turbos but its most likely the turbo oil inlet hose..happens to very early cgi models infact mercedes had a TSB on it those days ,cost rm200 siap pasang..almost got slaughtered but thanks to a german forum which helped me out..
what was the cause?
@@ngkwdaniel turbo oil line
yup, i had the same problem only happens at first start up early in morning. service center charged me 153 for valve and 80 for labor including for changing tranny oil and filter and bonnet spring too
This C class is perfect daily driver's car. Had ride in 250 CGI out to south. The cruising on highway is effortless. Size a compact though but being driver is just nice. Had a short high speed with some civic FD 2.0 that was screaming, but in the Merc it was calm and can still easily overtake it.
great in depth review 👏 👍
What a great, in depth review. Really enjoyed it.
Truly agree with you, the w204 is still one of the best build model.....apart from the w124. Everything is still solid and works perfectly for a decade old car.
I bought my c350 2014 after watching your videos and i love it still gives me some headache once in a while but worth os
I currently own a 2012 C300 W204 for about 2 months now and I've put 10.000km on it already. Prevention maintenance after buying is quite costly but it has been a dream to drive, fuel saving although it's a 3.0 liter, and is pretty much bulletproof engine-wise.
I agree with You Brother And I love the W204
oh boy, she's a beauty. Very solid W204 FL CGI. The least problematic model. Only maintainance + wear & tear
I used to have this from 2013 to 2020 (C180 sedan) with a 7G tronic. Was hoping my family would get a Tesla model 3 but they got the W205 facelift instead (C200)
Great revieuw, i drive this car 220 cdi! I ❤it! Greetz from Holland
Glad you enjoy it! We don't get the CDI officially here, but a few made it via parallel import channels.
The shifter for mercedes benz has always been my favourite. I have a friend who doesnt understand the groovy style shifting. To him is like no safe and potential can shift accdentally. He didnt realise every shift has a locking mechanism but was too lazy to dumb it down for him. To my this is the satifaction of the changing gears but to some they really prefer straight cut
Yes! And the tactile feel at each position is so satisfying!
I feel u bro
Hi Kon. I own a 2012/2013 W204 c250. Bought it brand new and so far i changed the ABS sensor cables twice on all 4 corners (one of its achilles heel). Mileage is less than 60K because the tyres are too low profile and I only take it on the outstation drive. I wanted to change the tyres to a higher profile so that I can use it more often but I also prefer my Subaru 4WD on KL roads. My mechanic told me there is also the inherent camshaft sprocket early wear which trustgtr33 mentioned. Love the car & thanks for the review.
Glad to hear your testimonial. Sensors are normal wear and tear items for most European cars. As for the camshaft sprocket issue, it seems like a sufficiently well-documented issue that any prospective owners should address with preventive maintenance.
Very nice review of the w204 range, your knowledge of these vehicles impressed me, for example many reviewers of these cars are unaware that the c204 and c207 are basically the same car and share not only the platform/engines but many other parts. I agree with your assessment of the build quality of the w204 especially the facelift version, the interior finish is outstanding and as you mentioned the action of the auto gear selector feels like the bolt action of a quality rifle. I have owned the S204 Kompressor 2009 model and now have a 2014 C204 250cgi both great build quality but the C204 interior is a serious step up. I have driven several W205/S205 and C205 cars both diesel, hybrid and petrol version's and although they drive well the same build quality just isn't there especially when it comes to the interior finish and the fact so many body panels on the 205 version are aluminum you don't get that same vault door thud when closing the doors or boot for example. I am very pleased with my C204 and plan to keep it for several years still, having only covered 55000km so far it's just about broken in.
Yes, the way things click in the W204 is very satisfying! Which country are you from? According to my used car dealer friends, there has been a sudden drop in W204 demand here in Malaysia.
@@KonWaiLuen Belgium, still plenty on the roads here.
Driving the 2013 250Cdi what an awesome car great power
The C 250 CDI was not officially sold in Malaysia. Which country are you from?
I m thinking to buy a 250cdi Coupe from 2012, any issue to be aware? Do you recommend?
Well say 👏
I believe the 1.8 has 184 hp with a 7 speed gearbox. I have a 2012 face-lift CGI model which I bought from a very close friend in 2022 who maintained it well with 81kms on the clock. In spite of that, I have spent 10k on wear and tear repairs. Now it runs beautifully with Chemlube engine oil.
It's a solid car. Can't run away from the occasional RM8k-RM10k bills, but I trust you can look forward to many years of reliable service ahead.
Yes, indeed. @@KonWaiLuen
To complete the segment by reviewing V60 or S60 and A4 of the same era.
I am looking for either this or e250 coupe . which one do you think better to buy . the e250 turbo is slightly bigger car . which is more value but and better to own ?
I am driving a W204 C180Kompressor that is manufactured in 2010. It drives beautifully in Singapore!
Wah, you deserve special respect for keeping a Kompressor running in Singapore!
Mine too, I'm driving a 1.6 c180k in sg.. 2010 as well.. 💪💪
@@fongalvin4995 with the crazy increases in COE, there are so many more us who are owning the W204 C180K. I have seen quite a few around on the roads. Mine is white.
@@KonWaiLuen for that paper that we need to pay to own a car, the W204 C180K is one of the most affordable Mercs to own in Singapore. There are really quite a good number of us who own the W204 C180K. road tax is also cheaper than the C200K
I have an c200 cdi since 2011 and it has 410 000 on the clock. Great car...no big issues.
Not surprised. I still think it's the best built of all C-Class
@@KonWaiLuen I would agree. BMWs have way more issues. Every new engine.
2011 Saga FL also got LED side mirror indicator
It all started with Mercedes. Haha
I own a 2013 C300 Sport 4matic with C63 AMG trim package. V6 3.5L with the 7 speed transmission. I absolutely love this car thru and thru. It's the best handling with the Sport tune suspension coupled with the all wheel drive which gives the 3.5L motor more ease and less abuse for showing and feeling the power and acceleration. The feedback from the road to car to driver is very well communicated, very predictable which makes it so much fun to drive but also easy to get into trouble with those poor lovers with the red and blue lights, lol! Ask me how I know but anyways. The exterior I think is sexy, elegant, sporty and means business all in one. The front end I think of the old roadsters which flows to the tucking of the front tires. The elegance of the fine lines of the body thru to the back of the car. It's like the engineers that designed and built this W204 C-class put everything they had plus more into this car. Seems like in today's vehicles all the thought is in the front end and down the side, but when it comes to the back end they just give up and slap something together. Same with some of these interior designs, just plain, boring and big ass touch screen monitors. Big isn't always better. When you sit behind the wheel of a W204 C-class like my model, you can feel yourself become 1 with the car. It's like the car and yourself are extentions of each other. Much respect to all those involved in the creation to final product of the 2008-2014 Mercedes-Benz C-class models. Other manufacturers could take some lessons from those true engineers of craftsmanship.
Thanks for your share! Where are you from? We didn't get the 3.5 V6, which I thought was the C 350? In our market, the C 300 had the older 231hp 3.0 V6.
Thanks for your indepth car reviews. I am from the U.S in Wisconsin. I am wondering if the car I now own was by chance a special order vehicle. There has been a couple of things I have came across that kinda point me in that direction. So I am here in the near future of actually going into a Mercedes-Benz dealer and see what I can find out. Just to know for me.
Thanks, I have the same 2012 Model but not 4 Matic. I fitted a rear window/roof spoiler (very subtle) and a small boot lip spoiler is about to be fitted. I find the seats are a bit low and do not give under knee support, but I can fix that my putting spacers under the legs.
@@troygartmann6398what extra options it had?
I enjoy all of your videos and thoughts.. But please.. pleaseee upgrade your camera setup for our eyecandy pleasure..
Working on that sir. Thank you for the feedback!
I believe the cgi you tested is 7 speed auto. I still prefer the bmw zf 8 speed autobox than the merc as the 7 speed respond slower. Overall am impress with the build quality.
Yes, you are right. The ZF 8HP is still the best torque converter AT in the business.
C200 kompressor 2007 model reviews
Bro, review my w204 1.6 7G from Singapore next round! Love my ride max!!
Sure! Bila mari?
I think i buy this car model as sedan
Hi Kon ... Perhaps you could also review the w212 & w212 E Class. Thanks!
I am working on that. Have been offered a car to video. Are you looking to buy one?
@KonWaiLuen yeap... I'm looking for a reliable family ride.... once I'm done paying for my Persona.
@@duanetersan1975 Camry bro for family
@@hdbsg3.5Already had enough of Japanese engineering... Let me experience German ones
20:37 I love how you blacked out your butt hahahhaaa
omg...I bought a used w212 prefacelift last year...aircon was just not cold enough compared to my year 2012 camry
That aside, how is the car?
@@KonWaiLuen performance,handling,soundproofing com9lanfirm tabao 😂
There is this little known issue of the inner layer of air cond hose delaminating. This can cause partial blockage of air cond gas. Search thru U tube.
I'm not sure if W204 drives like a Beemer. Have one in the family, C200 CGI but with 7 speed gearbox. One thing for sure it's my favourite generation and maybe just maybe a modern W124. Almost everything about it are engineered to last.
It's no Bimmer, but it's the closest of all the C-Class generations. Haha
been eying for this car for a while. is it hard to find the spare parts? and how about the fuel economy for this car?
Not hard to find parts. Fuel economy is good. Buy.
Hi Kon, been catching up on your videos. Btw im deciding between this C180 and the same gen (facelift) E250....putting price aside, which should I get? It will be a daily driver with reliability and maintenance cost in mind for another 5-10 years or so of use.
E-Class for sure
@@KonWaiLuen How about the lack of B pillar n E, in terms of road noise...and durability/security.....also I noticed the rear of the E is long, will it hit the ramp up and down multi story carpark? Thanks for your quick reply!
Hi, for this c180 coupe, is the power train is 1.8 turbo with 7 speed auto?
Depending on model year, it's either or, but this particular example is a 7-speed, I believe
Till the sensors, ESP Module, ECU, cam gears.. fail😅
I own the same car , the gearbox is 7G as in 7 speed not 5 speed as you have mentioned.
Thank you. I stand corrected.
Amazing in New Zealand in 2024 you can buy a 2012 to 2014 c 250 or cdi or 200 for 30.000 ringgit
M271 engine supercharge or the m271 evo on the CGi has one inherent issue is the cam phasers jamming up and stretch the timing chains...catch them early by listening for clattering sound on cold starts, usually for a few seconds..interior plastic tend to crack and fall off due to age. 5 speeders are robust but early 7 speeds can be problematic. Compared to my old e60 BMW, 10 years now into my A207 250 cgi...Mercedes proven much better terms reliability
I feel the M271 1.8 CGI pulls smoother than the M274 2.0 that replaced it.
@@KonWaiLuen i agree with you with the solid feel of the 204 and 212 models taking it back to the 124. Mercedes did mention that they responded to the complains fro the 210 and 211. Quite sad that the 205 has lost that 'built like a tank' feeling..
Good video. Only that feels tired waiting bcoz the presenter talks quite slow 😅
Do the W212 next!
hahaha.. working on that!
Cost maintenance not as high compare to other Conti brand !
This is actually C204.
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Well the w204 has the worst interior quality and build !
In terms of design, probably, but I would argue build quality-wise, it feels more solid than the W205.
not untill you found out the technology features of this car despite built more thsn a decade ago
My W204 is 17 year's old and the interior still looks new. No cracking or tearing whatsoever.