How to Deal With Psychosomatic Illness
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Sometimes trauma, mental or physical, is necessary because the experience we gain from having some hindsight and connecting the dots can be life altering. I believe we will continue to reinact or habitually follow patterns that hurt us happen because we aren't taking the time or doing the work to analyze ourselves and our role in making that happen. I believe taking responsibility for the role you play is the first step, which is why everyone is here watching this. We're taking those first steps to enlightenment.
I am a singer and a vocal coach for more than 40 years. I had a lot of laryngitis between the age of 17 and 21 years old. I was having a relation with a violent man. Could not leave him. Every time I was in front of a violence situation I would easily loose may voice. One day, an old voice therapist, asked me if i was living a violent relationship. I lied and told her than my head commotion was due to a scooter accident that I really had. So, she asked me if I wanted to sing again because my ORL confirmed that I could never sing again. So, she asked me :Is your boyfriend coming to get you this week? and I answere yes. So she said You have 2 choices, go with your violent boyfriend or take a cab, and sing again. Which I did. I left him after 4 years of physical and emotional violence and I continued working every day, taping myself and listening to my poor voice. I sang all my life. But if I return to abuse, I loose my voice again.
Micheline
For the last 3 years I have suffered from anxiety and depression which, outside of specific moments of clear emotional expression, lead to chronic tightness in the chest area and inhibited breathing,which is not only a pain physically, but leads to a feeling of being trapped inside your body, like wearing a belt around your chest 24/7, which leads to desperation. I have since realized that I have developed a tendency to supress emotional recognition and expression from a very early age on, because my parents didn't have this skill either (and, while caring in every other way, couldn't really care emotionally) and because I learned to be "rational" from a very early age, meaning I seemingly felt that emotions were inappropriate if it didn't fit the "rational" outlook on a given situation (my father is the same way. Hard work, discipline and emotional self-neglect). Since then, I have learned in therapy that the feeling in my chest is alleviated and I feel liberated when I am able to identify the emotional cause behind a given constriction and communicate this to an understanding person or write it down in an emotional (not merely factual) tone. However, it's often still quite difficult for me to identify the underlying causes, because I often just feel the physical symptom without any recognizable emotion or mood. But it gets a bit better now. Hope this will continue...
Then there's the classic biggie, dying of a broken heart. As regards N abuse syndrome, the target or victim goes through repeated cycles of splitting and discard that defy reason so constantly that failing 'no contact' implementation, actual cardiovascular issues can develop. The isolation that occurs as battle fatigue sets in can induce such a low level of physical activity that circulatory issues, high blood pressure and heart murmur manifest. The transition from CPTSD flashbacks to chest pain bears a strong potential correlation. This stuff is as deliberate, evil and targeted as it was intended to be. Thanks to good teaching like Richard's, some may escape the jaws of wolves in sheep's clothing.
You're really great. Listening to you always brings me back in line with reality when I feel crazy anxious. Thanks~
Mable Bird / I totally agree
Wow just listening is empowering but making my stomach turn at the same time last year my health was declining I never got migraines but started getting alot of those, eye twitches, horrible anxiety depression my mental health was getting bad insomina but last year when I discovered narcissism on TH-cam totally changed my health around and my life around thanks to people like you doing these videos and spreading the awareness
When I was married for ten very long years to a clinically diagnosed malignant narcissist/borderline psychopath; I was severely emotionally abused by him and his abusive family. Every holiday season we would go visit his abusive family out of town for the holidays. Every year for ten years starting around Thanksgiving in November until January 2, I would get very ill and have bronchitis. I was afraid to speak up and was angry about the abuse being heaped on me. Once I divorced the hideous creature I have never had a bout of bronchitis again!! Louise Hay's books are all amazing.
Antoinette Brosset
I found within 2months of seperation from 20+ years in a similar environment I have come of most of my auto immune medications, anxiety is half what it was and my pain killer addiction is halved. I'm so much more positive , which helps immensely when I still have a way to go with my recovery. Motivated by my 5 children who live still in that environment. My journey home will greatly benifit my children's children. This "gift" is no longer needed for the future generations of this family. AHO.
I found meditation helped me with my psychosomatic illness, intense neck pain...almost tendentious excruciating. I think was brought on from a number of stressful relationships. Also ending the most stressful helped almost to cure over night.
Very nice stuff! Thank you for presenting these very difficult notions to the public and having the talent to be understandable. There is also the notion of "embodied remembering" and "embodied feeling"
This video really spoke to me. I have several examples in my life as testimony that what you speak of is true. Makes perfect sense to me and appreciate the validation and awareness. Bless you ! Stay strong and vigilant my friend, you inspire me!
Just wanted to say this actually made quite a lot of sense to me. Thank you so much for making this, eased some troubled thoughts of mine.
Fibromyagia is a nervous system pain disorder from trauma r/t Fight/ Flight on constantly and the cortisol begins to burn the nervous system which leads to painful Neurapathy , I am releasing Trauma through EMDR to recover. CPTSD has set me up for a colorfully traumatic life and sleep Paralysis.....
Avalon Mist i am dealing with some similiar immune issues, cortisol /adrenal fatigue, multiple chemical sensitivity/cns and sleep paralysis/night terrors too.
Avalon
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Yes Spartan, the skin is the membrane it holds all the sensory receptors, eyes, ears, mouth, nose and touch - we are very influenced by our environment.
And I can confirm your assertions, as a child I suffered regular ear & throat infections (both itis) and terrible eczema (considering I was told not to tell - had to listen to awful things and was not allowed personal boundaries - you explain where doctors failed) it makes so much sense. If I get eczema now I look at my boundaries. Thank you!
Hi Richard, I'm in the last stages of completing a massive work project with a few important tasks left to do. And, wham, I started getting painful spasms in my mid-back. I knew it was psychosomatic, but that doesn't make the pain go away. This video was very helpful for me - to remember "the pain has a positive intent" and "the pain is trying to give me a message." One - I don't have to work this hard, it's my choice. Two - in the midst of my hard work to complete this project, I must still work out and take care of myself. I laughed when you talked about the dog who didn't get enough exercise and started chewing the furniture - I guess that was me. I already am feeling relief, with more insight and taking better care of myself. BIG THANKS!
Nice explanation. I like the bit about every psychosomatic illness having a positive intent. :)
Really resonated with this video :) I'm a big believer that too much negativity can bring on illness in many forms. I've caught god knows how many colds and bugs since December and normally my immune system works fine, but I started to look at what was happening in my life in regards to family, work and other things and it was like a "eureka" moment when i realized these things could be why I kept getting ill. For the past few weeks I've started doing meditation and noticed a good change.
1:04 applied psychology - all behaviours and neuroses have at their root some kind of positive intent, usually protection or safety-seeking
6:20 pain and trauma in the body, actors incidence of injuries, importance of language
8:48 Jung quote - many a truth in jests
8:57 psychosoma and language patterns
12:33 chi or energy - exercise as a way to move or use energy
I DEFINITELY agree with this philosophy... there is a reason that we call cowardly ppl "gutless" etc. From what we understand, the stomach and its contents has nothing to do with one's brevity, yet we think nothing of these terms.
Yet somewhere in history, it has been observed repeatedly that the chemicals our brains emit into our bodies when we have certain thought patterns, manifest certain symptoms in our bodies.
And why shouldn't they? We think nothing of believing that a car someone designed came from their minds and out into the world, yet we struggle to accept that the brain which is directly connected to the body can directly affect it with simple repeated emotional thought patterns!!?!
This stuff is so interesting man please do more of this. I get a sinus congestion when I don't stand up for myself and let people walk all over me. Then I go on a rage and what do you know: my nose is working fine again. Sometimes it only takes seconds..
I've had anxiety issues since i can remember, and never got help for it. In early 2010 i noticed i started going very frequently to the bathroom to pee. I have had all kinds of tests done but there is nothing physical wrong with me. The doctors and psychiatrists agree on that it is all in my head. And at first i didn't believe it because the physical symptoms were so real! I think the worst part was when the teachers at school thought i went to the bathroom often to get away from my work, or because i was stubborn and it hurts me so much. i have had a few periods of depression too, and it is so hard to know that there is not much they can do to help me, and the teachers think i'm being lazy.
Nausea? Mmmm, what are you "absolutely sick of"? Or what can you "just not stomach"? Maybe you arent "going with your gut"? Or do some things just not "sit well with you"?
What brought the depression back on?
RICHARD GRANNON SPARTANLIFECOACH I regularly would wake myself up at night because I had hiccups. Yes, you heard right! Hiccups. Weird huh??
I have EMF sensitivity's and my psychologist thinks I am delusional and my Chiropractor knows it is real. It is deff not all in my head. Smart meters and wifi make me sick and cause
You’re a genius and deserve unlimited happiness!
Words have a very real impact. My sister used to say, “ Sticks and stones may brake my bones, but words can kill me!”
You are a great person, thank you for sharing all your knowledge
I have used thought changing to heal ailments myself. Louise Hay's treatments in "You Can Heal Your Life" are the BEST! They work quickly as well. The first time I picked up the book I was in pre-med classes and scoffed at it. Thankfully I opened my mind a little later, and what a treasure her work is. Thoughts really impact the body. It is very real.
dizziness... a strange phenomena that occurred when I felt my life was being pulled in different directions. Also muscular twitches.. something the medical community has no answer for.. so they call it benign and tell you you will probably have it forever
Makes a huge difference for sure.
I am so sure Rich is right about this! My surgical wound that won't heal is directly over my heart chakra.
There is nothing like chakra, it is only satanic teaching of new age
Thank you.... while listening to your video I have figured out the catalyst of my psychosomatic symptoms (intense migraine, nausea, for some reason intense pain in both of my tibia, fever and sleeplessness) Before the video was over, I felt better
Louise Hay stuff is on You Tube and I’ve found her really helpful
Read The Body Keeps the Score
I don't know if this is related to me but for many years I've had this tension disease or condition. I got a bad case of the tmjd and I get mild to severe migraine headaches. Today I had a pretty severe one and I was run out of my med for this and so I had to take 3 Advil liquid gels and those didn't make it go away all the way. And tonight I feel extremely depressed and unhappy.
Much appreciation to your honesty
The Body Keeps the Score?
Good one !
I watched the whole video two times, very interesting stuff, loved when you corrected yourself on the 'socratic' adjective... however, Richard, I still don't know what the title says, which is how to deal with a psysom illness... can you make a list and post it somewhere somehow? Saw your other video with the word on the title, lots of insights and examples, yet, what are the steps to take?
Hi Richard ~ another wonderful talk. I definitely agree with what you shared .. I have experienced self induced illnesses. ~ I also know about being very careful with words. I do not sing song lyrics unless I agree with the content. I am very glad to not be an actor or do any performance acting .: it’s very dangerous stuff. The Bible says, “ the power of life & death are in the tongue” & it’ says “ you shall have what you say “.. ~ I did not know Hitler served in WW1. How awful for him, and now I understand him better, too. I did see an amazing documentary film about Hitler that was comprised of actual film footage.. it turns out that he suffered from terrible Crones disease & he was constantly having upset stomach, gas, bloating, and running diarrhea.. he couldn’t digest his food properly & it is said that every room he stayed in had bad smells... there is no way he could honestly relax & feel good about himself. Not with that condition .. Imagine how different things might have been if he were a healthy man ? ~ Richard , many thanks from a person who like yourself, loves learning & growing 🌴🎍🌿
You cleared my writer's block
Thank You
Whoa, need a little time to wrap my freakin head around some of this stuff. Very interesting. Thanks for opening my eyes, once again Coach! At least, I’m pain free now and know what to look for now. This was the answer I’ve been looking for, not exactly the one I wanted but that’s ok too :)
fascinating indeed ! i've learned so much from your videos. bless you for all that you do for a fellow human..
sleep paralysis tip: don't sleep on your back, and keep stress at a minimum...when it's happening: focus on calming down, and wiggling fingers and/or toes
if you can calm down and remain in the half waking state, you can go into a lucid dream, which kinda makes the paralysis worth it!
Very interesting Richard, thanks
Freestyle away my friend. Some very deep stuff. It allows you to think more is all !!
My eyes are constantly swelling for no reason. I’m at the eye doctor once or twice a month. He always says it’s something in the environment. (Translation: he has no clue what’s wrong). I began to think about the fact that I have experienced the death of my mother, father, and very close brother, my ex-husband, an old boyfriend who had remained a very close friend and great emotional support and other friends and relatives. I feel alone and overwhelmed.This on top of my husband abruptly leaving me. I thought our marriage was fine ... he literally left me a love note on the counter the morning he left and that evening took off. So there a many “ghosts” in my house. I’ve been trying to move to my home in Massachusetts for eight years now and I can’t get anything done at the home in Virginia. I can feel great and when I come into the house I begin to shut down. I’m saying all that to say that one day I realized that my eyes don’t want to “see”. Since I thought of that, no eye problems. Thank you for this video.
I like this guy make me happy
Hmmm . I am going to have to come back to this one - this is the first of your series that I might have to disagree with - but need to rewatch and formulate my reply to this. There is of course definitely a phenomenon of somatisation but I think you have perhaps broadened its scope too much, On a side note - the last couple of clips I have watched you refer a lot to Freud and Jung - there is a school of thought that Freud interpreted everyone's issues based on his own 'psyche' rather than a more objective and open view of experience. Would love to hear your thoughts but will come back to watch again -a bit tired and need my brain to sharpen up a bit. Was going to say I had a headache (which is true) but was concerned at how that would be interpreted - haha
Dr. Jon Sarno covers psychosomatic illness with backpain & other pains.
So true. I was on academic probation in college and in order to avoid getting suspended, I lied and my appeal letter about the reasons I was flunking in my classes. Well about a year later, the exact problems I claimed to have had, happened! in the exact order that I claimed! It was very creepy. It's one of those things that makes me doze off about quite often....
I have been under constant lightheadedness and dizziness for 6 months. It won't leave and seem to shift from forehead (lightheadedness and diziness) or to a stiff headache like feeling behind the head so I cannot sleep when it shift to that area. Went to see docs and ENT all said nothing wrong and suggested could be psychosomatic. I cannot pinpoint anything specific except that I have always been depressed and holding grudge against people and the world in general since I did not have good social skills plus bullied in school/work. Any insight would be helpfull.
wow,thx.so glad to find you here.:)
For the longest time it was skin breakouts. These have receded to almost nothing as I cut ties with situations that also triggered my bladder. A decade earlier it was losing my voice.
Now it's ears. I had teenagers attempting to chew my ears off to get their way over the last week (think 5 year olds crying at the grocery store cuz mommy wouldn't buy the thing). I found a way to make the calm and rational suggestion one of them made work (because I was listening and did want them to ne happy but what some of them were demanding was a no-go), but I also got my ears infected. One ear is hanging in disease territory requiring regular care even though summer break has started.
very good video, thanks for sharing
since I live in a self-created reality where my thoughts and emotions are not based in outside reality I have learned how to make my own fun. this should help me recover from my cptsd yes?
in yoga they say that the karma of violence goes into your legs, that's why people who can be considered as kshatrii (the caste of warriors in the vedic culture) usually have a bad time with it.
Didn't have it in the morning anymore, but i did in school. School of course is in the morning, which was when nausea ruled, so i started equating school with nausea. I would get it before even getting there, my brain trying to protect me upfront. Beat it, then 10 days school break, started gettin it again. And anxiety. Dry mouth doesn't go well with nausea. Anyway, i got pissed off, seing how it screwed up my education, irreversibly, did an nlp technique, gone! For now
Random question, since you mentioned him briefly, what are your thoughts on Joe Rogan and what he preaches on his show?
you say "Behind every behavior is a positive intention" I say that is actually a basic tenant of Neuro-linguistic programming. I speak from the point of view of someone who suffered through some quite serious psycho-somatisms...I was in a situation where my entire mental state was completely different from usual. non-stop for nine months I not only had these symptoms, but because I had these symptoms I was in a state of clinical anxiety. I do not consider hypnotherapy or getting connected with ones unconscious as a viable means of solving the problem, because, quite honnestly, you are in no fit state of mind when you most need to be doing it. You can not think logically, or rationally, or objectively...and the symptoms are very real, they simply have no biological basis for their being...but whilst you are inside that mindset that really doesnt matter, what matters is the fact that those symptoms are very real, and unending. Its hard enough when in a sound frame of mind to go digging in the unconscious...you certainly cant do that when effected...for some people, they can bearly manage to do anything, Visual distortions, constant dizziness...I don't think much beyond medication can help to be fair
pulvaris "I say that is actually a basic tenant of Neuro-linguistic programming."
It is a basic tenet of NLP, yes.
Interesting. I am just getting my mind convinced that I have been taken in by the most narcissistic man ever. Judging this by my injury and the aftermath. I had though 3yrs before this relationship been with another man that I think was his twin, I often made this statement for real, did they get together and discuss how to treat me, are the sharing notes. But in the first relationship I had a massive heart attack and died for 38sec in the ER. No heart issues prior, no blockages, bad. The cardiologist said it was due to stress and he could not fix what's not broken. (little he knew about my broken heart). I recognized the impact this man was having and although I felt like I was going to die again, my mother took me away. I am trying now to end a 4yr relationship with the devil. During which I have had 4 mini and 3 major strokes (causing partial blindness, loss is speech, and sometimes the ability to get thoughts from my brain to my mouth). Neurologists said no other reason but stress caused this. Could these illnesses be defined under this topic? Sorry this is so long. I have too many stories. ... Waking nightmares
You fascinate me.
Any thoughts on mycotoxin mould illness? What would this represent? What metaphor would mould be?
This is a BIGGY for me. Yeha! 👏👏👏👏👏
Hi Spartan -
Recently I've been diagnosed with anaemia. Quite a bad case for me and everything seems to take effort. Perhaps this illness could be linked with changes in a relationship. The feeling of being exhausted and the constant effort needed to feed nurture the esteem of that other person.
Physical exhaustion mirroring psychological exhaustion ?...
rage and not expressing anger.
Funny, had a "lump in a throat" about a week ago, bothered me for like 2,3 days... Feels more like pressure to me, like a hand on a throat. And i'm also a singer, which is what caused it, got too woried about my voice. Which went great with nausea i felt for the last 4 years. I was ill, helicobacter pylori, had it for years, nausea EVERY morning like i was pregnant, just without chocolate and regreted sex. Then it got cured, no nausea for 3,4 months, started getting depressed, BOOM, nausea.
I don't really know if i am actually one of those people who have it because my symptoms is quite different. This is actually has been happened since i was 5, that means it's been 14 years. At first, i have no idea that what i have is turn out to be such a desease, i thought my body is just too weak from the other. I'm usually felt pain in my body with such a sudden, I don't know if i can decribe it properly. Do you know when you feel dizzy, but not like vertigo, it's more like felt sting? But it's not happened to your head, more like to your body. It's frequently happened on my back. If it just a slight i'm usually just shock for a little bit and then trying to breath slowly, but more often case exactly what's happening it's gonna felt like sting at first, and then it's getting stronger until make me slowly can't breath. If i'm trying to move or change my position it will hurt more. The reason i can't breath is actually quite the one what make me more panic, it's like the stung will hurt more if i'm trying to breath normal. I can't take heavy breath, so i'm breathing so fast like tired after doing some exercise. Sometimes it takes just any seconds, but sometimes can be like 5 minutes. Still happened until now.
What about head pains? Not like headaches. My head around the temples will hurt randomly. Is that my want to not think as much? I also get pains in my feet. Does that mean that I long to go somewhere? Thank you for the video and thank you for reading.
Without knowing you its impossible to say, but you should consider all options definitely.
Okay, makes sense. I'll be looking out for what might be the causes then.
Hi Richie, many thanks for your video :) I just wondered if you have any thoughts about eczema as a psycho-somatic affliction, as this is something I've had my whole life. I'm probably being lazy - in fact, I will go and look this up myself now - however, I always find your thoughts and way of communicating them helpful. Thanks again :)
So much useful stuff in this - thank you. I had to watch it three times...
Very interesting video. I've had times when I'm in bed, finding it hard to get to sleep because of erratic, obsessive worrying thoughts and I could feel a dull ache in my head. However when I really try to calm and slow my thoughts down and input some positive, empowering thoughts. Then tension goes almost immediately. It really is true when they say that thoughts have power and your state transmits.
Soo i got Gerd, actualy form is Lpr. Have simptoms, but how can i know is this only emotions, or terminall desise? I was in abusive relationship 2 years
God bless u guys we are warriors!!!!!!!😘😘😘😘
fight inner child is your unconscious.
throat =change & resisting change. frequent sore red throat=not expressing feelings. lump in throat= sadness and grief. stiff neck=rigid. asthma=feeling trapped can't breathe. reflux=depression caused by rejection. itis= anger rage. migraines= NGE syndrome= not good enough pain and trauma is stored in the body. christopher Reeves. Al pachino.Brad Pit. Troy and Achilles. deaf= don't want to hear it. Chest pain= rejection.
Hi Richard, Do you have any insight into IBS/bloating and psychosomatic illness? I was raised by two Narc. parents who left me to fend for myself as a child in terms of cooking and food. I've had bloating for the majority of my life; I think it started around 12/13 years old. I've been to several dr's and haven't found a definite cause. Do you think there could be a connection?
+klb92 Hi I see your comment is from a while back but If this is still a problem for you I suffered similarly for a very long time until I took care of my emotional laundry and ditched a narc friend then my IBS attacks and a lot of other physical pains diminished until they eventually disappeared.
Thank you for your comment, Super Synth! I was actually diagnosed with a stomach condition a few months ago and have been treating it with herbal supplements and the SCD diet (thru my naturopath). I've been doing much better now! I suspect that emotions definitely can have a negative impact on my issue, but luckily I found the root cause. I'm glad that your IBS has cleared up!
+klb92 I think so. my brother and I suffered from a toxic parental dynamic ( one def being a narcisst) and I have suffered from psychosomatic illness the past 6 years of my life and IBS since childhood. the ibs is not severe anymore but if i get really anxious/stressed my stomach can act up. and my brother has sever IBS ( chrohns disease).both I think are manifestations from our subconscious trauma (ptsd) rom childhood. oh and dairy really messes my stomach up despite the fact I used to drink glasses of whole milk everyday when I was younger.
My mom had acid reflux disease until she and my father separated. Then, it went away permanently, like magic.
I was actually diagnosed with an auto immune type disorder and also Celiac Disease and have since healed dramatically. I was diagnosed a little while after posting that comment. I believe that the autoimmune disorder was likely caused by antibiotic overuse, a processed diet as a child, and unrecognized celiacs disease. However, I still believe that there was likely a psychosomatic dynamic to some of the health issues I have overcome over the years.
5:28 Bladder problems means you’re pissed off... would you propose that this association of ideas work just with English speaking people? Because in other languages such as in Portuguese, the words bladder (bexiga) and pissed off (chateado) bear absolutely no relationship.
Salve ;) Good Good Points in here!
I am just working on healing infected scars, thrown open everytime I meet some people. Should I avoid them then? Tell them what I see, ask them to shut up?
Or Fight them? Balancetraining my lower spine into working everyday. Cause I´m rather pissed somedays still :) Still in Healing :)
I love standing on my head.
throat resist change...pissed off and not saying anything...not expressing angry...inner animal and child needs released...lump in throat...sadness, grief and loss. cant fight with unconscious.
can this happen when your waiting for somehing and it not happening my hip bothes me when i was 8 came ut f joint and rigt now i am try to ging to get sirgeru that might change my lfe so could my hip hurt fom wanting this sugey
+katelynn wagner your hip came out of joint, this causes damage to cartledge and ligaments and tendons. it hurts because it is supposed to.
replacing the negatives with the positives.
Richard, could you give me a focus and some clarity on my 7 year Prostatitis. I'm very clear the condition relates to either an emotional blockage or repressed energies. It's literally a pain in the arse! (No that's not me being self aware of my character 😊)
The problem is my brain is thinking something bad, cause last time doing the same stuff if went well, but the next time it should get worse. And it just seems i can't do nothing against these thoughts cause they just come into my mind. I could go insane.
What is my subconscious trying to tell me by giving me chronic arm and and pain?
1)Awesome video! At 20:00 when you talk about seeing things upside down, well last week I came up with a strange theory. My wife "has" bipolar and though it is a pain in the ass to deal with it truely fascinates me. She also has very poor vision so for shits and gigles I wore her glasses for an hour to see what she sees. Everything was blurry,I had no depth perception and couldn't even walk across the room. I wonder if how she physically sees the world changed her brain chemistry?
Hii richi!i have experienced. the thing about making up a lie to stay home and two days later i got the shit,this happened many times that i stopped doing it.its creepy!
I don't know, but i have always been a bit squeamish when it comes to the throat area, couldn't swallow pills, always hated vomiting. So the nausea is related to my anxiety, of getting nausea. It's a fear of having to interact with people, verbal conversation, while being nauseas, dry mouth, and feeling like im gonna throw up if i utter another word, which makes me feel weak, so it's harder to deal with anxiety. I did have emetophobia at my worst point, but got over it.
good video. check out "The Divided Mind" by Dr. Sarno. Groundbreaking work.
Where has this one been lol?! ...Just last night had a most incredible dream, where a giant black and yellow snake came out of the wall, to which I was surprised but calm as it lunged at me with gummy jaws biting gently but forcefully around my neck whereby the whole thing entered me through the side of my neck (while I harked back to someone, "I'll be just a minute")!! :-D
My eyesight has gradually deteriorated over last several years, no medical known reason yet, but due to my characteristic spiritual nature I've all along suspected that I'm trying not to see something/s! I helplessly, vaguely understood my physical ailments when with last narcissistic partner, and persistent symptoms relating to contact with my narcissistic Mum. My soul (body, brain, and spirit) would finally take no more and forced me to begin a healing journey, which started with food and nutrition, alternative therapies including Thai Yoga massage, and books by Caroline Myss with regards to archetypes, psychological, and spiritual healing incorporating the physical body. Since finding Richard G, I've come to learn so much more, including asserting boundaries, emotional literacy, etc. etc. I have gone no contact with the ex partner, and little to no contact with Mum. Now, I have ordered a yoga mat, to mark a personal space for long overdue yoga and meditation practice.
My deepest, heart felt gratitude to Richie G for all his work; and this, yet another gem in all his work! :-)
If the brain feels no pain (22:00 approx.) It guess it's much like the world we live in? Whether we "damage or destroy it, or not, it just is?
What are your thoughts on Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and Fibromyalgia, are they psychosomatic if so why?
+PerpetualTiredness
I am not the author of the video, but I'll try to give my two cents, hope you don't mind:)
Depending on the person, or more correctly, on the particular situation, coping mechanisms etc. when it comes to a specific person, everything can be psychosomatic in nature.
I am still battling a pinched nerve in my neck which basically screwed up my right arm to the point of amputation, only for me to go like "wtf" and deny any kind of further meddling - as for the scope of the impingement, those consequences should never have occured. Basically, I had a mild case of disc pressing the nerve. After dozens of tests, cortizon shots etc, it still progressed. I went to literally the best doctors in the field. Nothing. The hand continued to get smaller, weaker, pain was UNBEARABLE. And I mean unbearable. I would trade that for the non-stop full-on medieval denailing. I am dead serious. Nerves control the pain, touch etc and if they want you to get the 100% of the pain, they can do it.
So, basically, even though everything was pointing out for the condition to be caused by mechanical/physical causes - that all happened while I was working 10-15 hours a day and my profession is illustration/painting/concept art. So yeah, quite a paradies for nerve impingement, neck hernias, carpal syndrome, cubital syndrome, arthritis, you name it, all illustrator have some or all of those.
But this was different, I was going to literally lose my right arm (a dominant one) due to a mild nerve irritation in my neck. Something was off.
That was two years ago. Now, my right arm is still like ten times weaker than my left, I still take painkillers and I still can't take over my life and job, due to inability to work. But it's getting better. I would assume that I'll start working maybe even sometimes before the 2016. ends.
The thing is, I connected the dots and well, I am an artist. That alone means a lot, artists in general are a very conflicting bunch, hence the need for that constant oozing of expression. My abnormal work ethics surely stemmed from me wanting to repress something. At the same time, I had a fight with my father, who also had a heart attack several years before that. All that combined probably means something like this:
-more work equals more money equals more independent person - cue the separation anxiety
-as a man, I must have an ingrained mix of hatred and love for my father, which yields repressed guilt.
-his heart attack must have made an unconscious impression that "it's my fault"
-my fight (although verbal) showed to my brain that I am "dangerous" to him and that my intent of killing him from when I was 1-3 years old, as any male son, still lingers on somehow. Our brain has difficulties in assessing the more rational and "modern" patterns of thinking and behavior, so that's that:)
-so, we have brain's desire for status quo (not getting too much money and space), desire for repressing the conflict (guilt) and desire to stop the "bloodshed" (fight). The most potent solution which would work perfectly and at the same time preserve my being - get rid of the arm:D
Basically, this was more of an example than a theoretical elaboration. But, I hope that you have the more "direct", clearer picture as to how it works.
As for cfs, fibromyalgia and frankly all neuralgia etc, I'd say (I might be wrong, but I'd also be ready to put my life on the line for that notion) that 99.9% of those are psychosomatic. Then again, I also conclude that at least 80% of common colds are psychosomatic.
Psychosomatic illness has the goal to protect "the owner". BUT, workings of our mind can be strange. Protecting oneself might even result in suicide, regardles of how contradictory this sounds. If our brain interprets death as somehow less damaging and dangerous as the alternative, we might actually die. It could be by "shutting down" or having a pneumonia which gets complicated - or even by "accident".
This in particular, Jung touches upon and presents a few real life examples as well. I think it's in the "man and his symbols", but I am not sure.
In the end, I would suggest a good psychotherapist. Even in the case it's not psychosomatic, there are surely consequences due to simply having the condition.
Also, if you would try to do a bit of self-assessment, try not to pose questions as what could have caused it in medical way. Try to do the opposite. Try to ask yourself "for what do I need this for?". What is the gain? And trust me, I know how silly it sounds. I was inches to losing the arm which is the most important part of my body OBJECTIVELY.
But try to ask yourself that. Anything that's a benefit, no matter how twisted it seems, write it down. See if you can work something out, remember something, have some kind of association etc.
Benefits might be hidden, especially to you, since you are asking yourself - which means that the "other you" will have all the barriers ready:) Nevertheless, they should become obvious if you know how to analyze them. And that is, not holding on to the rational calculations.
For example, look at my example. Do I hate my father? Nope. Did I magically made his heartattack? Nope. Was I a threat to him when we were fighting? Nope. Would my father like for me to fail in my life and work endeavors? Nope.
But, to our brain (the mighty non-modern part) this all looks like - let's remove that magical weapon of doom (arm) before it does some stupid shit and destroys the earth or something. When you look at it like that, that's a pretty huge benefit:)
I know I didn't give you any "legit" answer, but I hope it maybe helped a bit:) Hang on there!
mrdoolio thanks for the great insight!
I’d be really interested in the answer to this too. I have ME/CFS, fibromyalgia, joint hyper mobility and chronic migraine. I’ve been following Richard for a couple of months, having found his work on narcissistic abuse (I was in a relationship with someone who I believe has narcissistic personality disorder, although I’m not qualified to make a diagnosis). I’ve heard Richard alluding to a belief that chronic fatigue syndrome is psychological in a few of his videos, although it has always been a very brief comment with no further information, so I don’t want to put words in his mouth. Speaking from my own experience (as someone who has had the illness for 10yrs) I very much believe it is a physical condition. There are psychological components, as there are to any long term illness, such as depression and grief over the loss of a future life you may not now have (I had to give up my career, I haven’t had children, I can no longer do activities such as sports I love, etc) but that was very much in reaction to the physical limitations, not the other way around. I’d be interested to hear more about this though. I try extremely hard to remain open minded (you have to with conditions where there is so little understanding, and you have to be willing to try and find new ways to manage it, etc), but I do have immense difficulty with people who have zero medical training, zero research experience and zero experience of these conditions trying to forcefully and vociferously tell me what I’m doing wrong. There’s a lot of wisdom in the saying ‘walk a mile in a man’s shoes’. I’m open to genuine, well thought out, logical, researched, safe ideas, but I’m not open to armchair experts who read half an article once and have a next door neighbour’s dad’s dog who had it so that makes them an authority.
www.nursinginpractice.com/article/‘all-mind-myth-myalgic-encephalomyelitischronic-fatigue-syndrome
Polly Edmondson I have the same as you, along with similar things w/both of my daughters. Drs & research & tests reveal possibility of ME/CFS being caused by viruses &/or mitochondrial issues which are believed to be inherited from mother. Ehlers Danlos Syndrome causes hypermobile joints... which both my daughters have... along with headaches, digestive disorders, nausea, vomiting, even heart & vein issues, depending upon which connective tissues are genetically defective. I just don’t think psychosomatic disorder could cause these issues, if blood tests &/or X-rays, etc, tests show there are issues, but Idk. My tests show low glutathione/ATP. Also, many with these disorders tend to have 1or 2 MTHFR mutations which may be a problem if you eat fortified foods & take unmethylated Vit B & folate.
in ref your example of blindness, why is conversion disorder after significant actual trauma, which symptoms include blindness or lose use of legs, walking ability. , why is conversion (formerly called hysteria) still classified as a Somatoform disorder rather than a psychosomatic, bc since it is classified in the same category as malingering, there is very little empathy, or treatment help for anyone who suffers it. conversion , with the blindness or mobility failure or even pseudo- seizures , is real..yet they treat it like it's fabricated when episodes occur, and likely due to it's "classification", so in your opinion, regardless of the classification, do these methods apply to conversion as well?
The throat chakra represents fear anger and addiction.
Hey Richard, have you ever heard of The Yips? Coz anything you have to say about it would be most welcome :) thx man...
guilt and empathy, memory and moral, automatic response/ mechanical ego is how to explain the diabolus of events. the messiah consciousness may desire it's dragon tax.
I'm in love with your brain! 😍
I read that book by Louise L Hay! Right on. Was a good book. I do have a genetic illness. I do believe in this theory to a large degree as well. I'm a case study lol.
Best of luck with becoming a millionaire :)
I'm going to take note of my body injuries-
we have a few that are the same- crazy that
This is not an illnes, but could that be a psycological thing? Im 21 years old and my voice is very child like. When i meet people they often mistake me that im 14 years old because of that and if i speak on phone people mistake me for a child. I hate that i sound like a child and people often treat me like a child because of that and dont take me seriously. Or they say to me that i seem immature or that my voice and manners are like a child. Often people dont say mean stuff and they just say they think im cute, but its still very frustfrating to me...... Im young adult and i want people to see me as my age, but my voice makes them think im alot younger. Im not mentally more immature than other people of my age, but my voice makes people precive me more immature. If it is psycological, what can i do about it? (I have cptst and my dad is alcoholic and he has manic depressive disorder. Also in highschool i dated a person with lot of narcissistic trates and i got thyroid canser after three years being around that person. But now im fine.) Please help? Im insecure of my voice and i wish it was more mature.
Viljami K take voice and diction classes you can learn to speak in a more age appropriate voice problem.solved
Vilja0 unless you purposely speak.like a child to get attention
Have you ever seen the witch during sleep paralysis?
Try EFT program guys
I have something interesting for you to think on. I have fibromyalgia and they don’t classify it as an autoimmune disorder because there isn’t any inflammation at the pain site, but they have recently done a study and found, using a PET scan, that the place’s in the brain that correlate with the painful areas of the body are inflamed, so while our brains may not feel pain you could be having issues with your brain that would be painful if it could, but the areas of the brain that are in distress show up as body pain. Now isn’t that a mind fucker! Also if you have ever had a migraine you would believe totally otherwise, because they fill like your brain is being squished!
Hairloss, joint pain and acne?
Nothing to hold on to, immobility, weak boundaries?
I think acne can work like barrier towards other people to hold them back to get in touch with you.