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- I go through some of the change i have made to my ebike programing to get the bike to perform the way i want it. Many popular commercial bikes also use Bafang motors and may be fully reprogrammable as well.
Link to another video where i show how to reprogram an Ebike using an Android App
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Link to programming cable
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Link to software and good guide to read
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This is a good video for showing how to re-configure the settings... Thank You ! These modifications were just the ticket !
The gear shifter makes it a lot smoother and has natural peddling.
I think I can honestly say I think this this the best tutorial I've ever seen on anything on youtube, ever. So refreshing!
this guy smoked it
Great tutorial and I say this to you with love, were you high?
Indeed
by far the most concise and informative i've seen so far. great work.
Thanks!
@@stevenc22 Hi, could you make a video about the free Speeed (3 letter e) app for configuring Bafang BBS series motors (and most Hub motors).
It is the equivalent of the popular windows tool but in a robust phone version with bike display functionality and 25 language versions.
thank you for a great job!
@@marcinkopa I cant seem to find it in the app store?
@@stevenc22 Unfortunately, at this time only Android phones/tablets are supported (iOS does not support usb-uart adapters). The good news is that an advanced and ridiculously cheap bluetooth module is in the final stages of development, and an iOS version will be coming along with it. github.com/mkopa/speeed
@@marcinkopa I use Android. Just ordered a otg cable. I'll check it out
Great Video. I did have a 250 watt bafang but upgraded to the 750 watt. When I first tried the bike it was far to fierce in in the lower settings. Your settings are perfect in the 1 - 5 almost exactly mimic how the bike was with the 250 watt motor and 6 - 9 make the most of the extra power.
JEEEEEEEEEESUS are you telling me that phisically 250W and 750W motor are the same? is just software limited??
No. The 750w and 1000w are the same
@@stevenc22 NO they are not.the 750w is the BBS02B its limited to 25amps, the 1000w is a BBS03 (BBSHD). the bbso3 has larger core motor windings and its controllercan take upto 30amps before you get magic smoke.
Thanks for the video was very helpful, I copied your setting and it made an amazing difference thanks again.
hello Steven,
Thx for your tutorial. It is really well done. I already watched other videos but your parameters are the best.
I just modified speed limit of assist level 5 and 6 to a lower value than 100%...
On Tuesday and Wednesday I'll test it on a longer trip.
Thx
Extremely useful information, thank you !
Great video Steve and very helpful info
Hi there, great video, can the m600 be programmed with your cable. I have issues with too much speed like you. Especially with take off. Thanks. Annmaria
Thanks Steven for taking the time to make this video. It is an excellent source of information for me. I’ve got a Bafang 500w mid motor on my TerraTrike. I would like to slow it down in general. I am a little uneasy thinking that if I did something wrong I might “brick” my controller. Is there a feature for controlling the headlight/display function? Right now when I turn the headlights on in the daytime the display automatically dims so much that I can’t read it. Also, it would be nice to just have the headlight come on when I am riding as a safety feature.
Thanks again!
Bruce not sure about the headlight but try it out. Pretty much impossible to "brick" it
Thank you I tried to find info but their is very little . The shop i bought my bike from would not show me how to derestrict or program ? So i got the cord ! My BAFANG IS A 1400 WATT MID DRIVE . A little confusing . Thank you !
Thanks Steve,i just hand to replace my controller due to battery reporting issues and the throttle wasn't grunty and it was too fierce off the line on ped 3
Just a heads up. Depending on where you buy the cable and the cable brand you will end up searching online for compatible USB drivers before Windows will recognise the USB com port.
But once you have done that it works like a charm
This is the best guide for programming the BBS02, on TH-cam
Thank you for such a detailed explanation. Awesome.
That you for clear explanation! Very helpful, endeed! Subscribed.
This is fantastic. Thank you
Thanks for the info, I have 2 bikes with Bafang middrive's, they're both 350w 36v units but they perform differently. Your info should I hope enable me to get them both the same. Thanks a lot, Rob
Thanks! my controller died and needed a new one so got the newest model and pedal assist one went from 12mph to 17-19mph lol. I bring my puppy with me and try to go slower and it is a pita. Cable should be here saturday, can't wait to slow my recumbent trike down lol
Great job gave me a lot of new info Thank you
This is so dang cool!
This is a great video for tuning your Bafang. The mild settings are perfect for my wife and has enough reserve power in the upper levels. Thanks, good job!
Glad to help
I’ve heard that you can configure these to work more like a torque motor, any idea how you would do that? I bike for exercise but at 71 with 4 back surgeries and 2 hip replacements I’m slowing down, I can only go 50 miles on a trike and I’m whipped. Thanks
@@lennymiller7336 Lenny, what do you mean by "Torque Motor"?
From my understanding the BBS02 is considered a cadence motor and a torque motor provides assist based on how much force you put on the pedals.
I see. Yeah the Bafang doesn't quite work like that but you can easily program all the different assist levels to get the right amount of assistance so that you still get a good work out.
I'm scrolling through the Bafang videos; this is the most understandable yet.
But please explain all the settings on the Pedal Assist tab/menu; these are referred to in other videos but I still don't understand them.
Also links to download the Bafang Tool would be useful, partic for W11 which (as of June 2023, many have been forced to upgrade).
i'll save everyone the hassle with finding the driver for the cable, take a magnifying glass (if the usb plug has clear heatshrink) and look at the code on the black chip, mine is ch340, spent 4 hours, once i found that it took 2 minutes
So where is the link?
@@Full_Throttle_no_Brakes if you can read you don't need a link
What’s the black chip
Also took me 2 minutes thanks to this comment. 😁👍
Hey man, spent 40 bucks on the Bafang programming cable but when I plug it into my computer I don't get anything other than the sound of the computer recognising the device. Is this a driver issue or should I be getting a pop up menu? I have a Juggernaut 1000w mid drive. Thanks in advance.
Thanks very useful video. I was messing with the controller settings too but i couldnt figure it out. Question: my bafang bbshd has a limit of 500w when it has liw battery. Is there any chance that you know how to fix it?
I'm not aware of that setting? Could the battery be amp limited. As voltage drops amps need to rise and you could be maxing out the amps on battery.
I purchased an Ariel 52V x class. It’s not a mid drive but a rear drive. The drive is by Bafang. I have the same problem with run away in PA. Doesn’t matter if you leave it in the stock 0-5 range or as Ariel says “change it to 0-9 and that will help”. That’s BS! Ariel says you can’t change the percentage on each pedal assist. I can’t try the programming cable you mentioned because its a female adapter going to the controller not a male. The only hope I have is that there’s a USB port on the LCD screen. If anybody has any suggestions or can point me in the right direction I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you.
Thank you for this video. Very informative.
Hi,
Very grateful for you. Great information.
Have a good day
Thanks for this video. One question though. If I set setting number one to 5km/hour will the motor start when it reaches 5km/h and will it also cut of at 5kmh?
Second question, when using throttle can you pedal at the same time?
Not if you`re lieutenant Dan!
just got my cable and programming now, so there are 9 levels in the software but i set my display to only show 5 levels (still goes to max power, just less time ti switch between) so what does it take from the sofware, like what is level 8 in the software, or its not counted ?
I think level 1,3,5,7,9 in the software relate to your 5 levels
Hi, maybe anyone knows can I programming my bafang rear hub motor BFSWX02 500W 48V? What USB programmer I would need?
Any suggestions regarding getting the USB cable to connect to the mid drive. I have a Bafang BBS02B 750 mid drive motor. I have downloaded drivers for the USB 340 cable. I have matched the COM port and baud rate. I have plugged in and powered on in the correct order, and nothing..., Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Do you get a red led on the cable?
Great Video. I am thinking of running a throttle-only setup on my current build. Do you think it is even necessary to install the controller and sensors for this? If I do still require the controller, then is there a way to disable PAS while still allowing the throttle to sit at PA lvl 9 for example?
You can disable PAS on 1-8 and then just program 9 to full throttle
Steven, is the software on the bike or do you have to get that separately? I just ordered the cable.
I've reduced the two Start Current to 1%, was too jerky for me at the start.. much smoother now
also Slow-Start mode is the time it takes to ramp up to full current, the parameter you are describing is Start Degree (How long it takes for the motor to react when starting to pedal)
No splitter cable. Plus it's best to make small changes at a time or else you can mess things up. Just start with you stock tune and tweak a few things that annoy you.
Great tutorial butI I have a mac. Is there software out there that I can install on my mac?
Thanks. Are you implying that with a 25A controller, I can get the full 1000w power out of my BBS02?
Excellent video. Thanks
7:33 Thanks for the great tutorial. You'd mentioned you wanted to override the throttle regardless of which PAS mode or gear bike was in, would there be a risk of damaging the components if you set throttle power to high?
No but the tutorial does recommend not putting the throttle so the way to level 9 because going up hill and punching the throttle could overload the controller
I cut back the amps to 25 it’s rated for 30. Start at a 10 % and increases as you go up
Hey man, spent 40 bucks on the Bafang programming cable but when I plug it into my computer I don't get anything other than the sound of the computer recognising the device. Is this a driver issue or should I be getting a pop up menu? I have a Juggernaut 1000w mid drive. Thanks in advance.
Excellent info man
The first cable i bought did not work. It would be recognized by my computer and show up in the com port but it could not read the controller to show any info. I ordered a new one from a different vendor and it seems to be working. I have a 1000w motor with the 52v 19.2ah shark battery. Anyone have a video or post about fine tuning the same setup? 29' specialized rockhopper 2015, btw.
Great video thanks for sharing it.
So the motors can be unlocked to run at higher speeds but now the other parts of the kit that aren’t rated for use at 1000 watts risk being burned out or damaged?
So if all the parts on the except the motor itself were built for the 1000 watt motor then you could clock the 750watt motor up to its full potential safely?
The kit can do 1000w. It's just software limited to 750w
Quick question. Is there any programming cable for a Ananda front-wheel ebike engine?
don't know
Thank you for this very informative video. I have a Bafang 250w m400 motor. When I pedal I have a feeling that the engine only helps up to a certain point. Than I have to switch into a higher gear ( cassette gear ) and then it helps again. Do you know if there is a setting where I can prolong this help limit? I don't have a throttle, only pedal assist.
Probably have a speed limit.
@@stevenc22 Speed limit for every gear or generally? It is happening in every gear.
Hello!
This cable and softwear works on a rear motor hub Sutto (Bafang) 48v 1000W?
Because my PAS not active the motor
Depends. Not whether your motor is bafang but whether the controller box is bafang. Many companies use bafang motor but their own proprietary controllers.
Hi, my new Accolmile City bike mounts a mid M200 Bafang motor, with BUS Can; I am told that Bus Can motors cannot be programmed... do you know if this is true? My aim is to skightky adjust the kevek of assistance on each of the 5 levels and unlock the speed limit (15 miles/h now).
Yes the newest motors cannot be programmed. However you might be able to unlock the top speed by going into the secret menu on your bike display. Google which display you have and how to enter the secret menu
Great information! Does this work on the 500watt front drive bafang? I just converted a 29 inch cruiser with front drive and it tops out at only 15mph I feel there is some limit put on it.
To change top speed just go into your display's secret menu. Top speed can be changed with your display, no need to break out the laptop.
@@stevenc22 This is confusing. I thought this hack bypasses the limiter. My 1000w tops out at 37 km an hour no matter what menu setting I use.
There is a Mode in Bafang motor called 'waking'. By keep pushing the minus button it get activated and the max speed will be around 5mph. I admit that 15 mph is too much for level 1, anyway.
Is this also possible with bafang M200?i want to increase themax speed.
Great explanation of the spped settings but your wrong about the 1k motor the 750 is 24A & the 1k is 28A controlled but I agree to keep it lower anyway as the cooling on the motors is insufficient for full voltage to the controllers
does this also work on m800 mid-drive?
I was going through the PDF regarding the speed limit. My LCD shows 28mph as the speed. How would I increase this if the Bafang config tool only allows the max of 40km/hr which is only 24mph. side note, i havent attached my controller to the laptop yet.
The controller software speed setting is for the pas only. Using the throttle is not limited to 40km/h.
@@stevenc22 Thank you for responding. Once receive the cable I will try. Hoping you will be able to help if needed. Appreciate you alot!
Hello
Great video, thanks. I have a bafang 750W 20 A, which functions very well but keeps getting error notes: code 30, code 10, etc....
Have you encountered this and know what to do? Maybe it's a display problem (c961), is there a way to reset it to the manufacturer's default?
Code 30 is a communication error. Code 10 is an over heat error.
I have a avaris 3.6 bike but cannot find the 5 pin lead, only one I can see is a 9 pin ahhh any help appreciated
Great video, as you experienced, my Bafang was quite strongly powered out of the box. I was able to follow your instructions and make changes to soften the power at low assist levels. But, then I find my display, a Varstrom touch screen is allow only 5 levels of assist. I've explored all the setting and everything I can find, but can not find the option to change from 5 to 9 levels of assist on the display. I've encountered a "pass word" option. However, I don't have a password and the instructions that came with the system are quite brief.
Do you have any suggestions about the assist level option on the display, and/or how I might get through the password setting, change or whatever... Thanks Fred
Try 0512 password
Superb explanation
Any idea if this software would work on the Bafang M600 model?
I think you have to use the Bafang Besst Software for the M600. th-cam.com/video/efyLsgU0yWU/w-d-xo.html
Awesome information!! Is there a setting for getting the motor to disengage right away when the pedals stop?
Honestly there probably is but I haven't looked for it. Check the two guides I linked to, they are way more in-depth
Stop delay under pedal assist tab
Can you lower the torque settings somewhere i have a belt drive but its recommended max 80nm torque but i want the bbshd on my bike
Sort of. You can reduce the power ramp up which is the equivalent of reducing torque
@@stevenc22 thnx
What does it mean on the C965 UBE LCD display in pas?
Sorry I don't understand the question? Are you asking in the laptop software or on the bike display?
Can this fix my dc18 LCD and TFT 750c lcd not working with my sondors mxs?
Probably not. I dont know anything about the sondors mxs but it looks like it is using a rear drive not a hub drive. I don't think the rear drives are programmable.
How do I find the software I put the cable in but the laptop can't find the software you are showing. Do you have a link?
edrivenet.com/bafang-programming/
Nica Tanx. will it work on FTF 850C? Do you have a link to bye a cable.
Link in description!. The 850C is the display. Programming has nothing to do with the display. It has to do with which motor you have. Which motor do you have?
I know it has been awhile since you posted this but I thought I would try anyway. Great tutorial. I was hoping for some clarification. You suggested setting the throttle maximum to assist level 8 so you don't blow out the motor. The power is set to 100% on the previous page so wouldn't it be throttling at the same level ( 100%) as level 9. Thanks again
His current limit on PAS 8 is 80% of 18 amps, quick math; 18 x 0.8 = 14.4 amps max current; On a 48v battery system ; 14.4 x 54.6v = 786.24 watts @ full battery, 684 watts @ 47.5v 50% battery and 622 watts @ 43.2v 11% battery which is when the walk assist function should be considered to preserve the battery.
Hi ,
I have a Jorvik mt7 tricycle with a 250 w mid drive motor bafang M 500. I need to have more strength when I climb a steep slope. So I need a little more power when I m on the easy gear.should I slightly increase the ampere ? How many .
Thanks for this amazing tutorial.
Gabriel
Assume you have a 36v battery, you currently only pull 7 amps then for 250w. You could probably do 10amps without much problem. Make sure the m500 is actually programmable. Some of the new motors cannot be programmed
Thanks Steven!
brake lever or brake sensor? what to order?? I have mechanical brake sistem on my bike. PLZ HELP
I use sensors. I wanted to keep my original brakes. The sensor just sticks to the underside of your brake lever.
Great Stuff Thanks !
Have you tried on bafang hub motors?
Hi. I don't have a Bafang motor, my one is a 48v 1000w ebike compatible with "SW900" LCD from Aliexpress.
Two problems:
1. All PAS levels and settings are too fast, so throttle is the only reasonable option
2. Setting the current limit, doesn't seem to do anything, as I still reach up to 1500W
Would I be able to reprogram the silver box with this USB device, possibly if make my own software through reverse engineering
I know my LCD uses UART, and connects with a five pin rectangle plug, with five coloured wires (5V, 48V, TX, RX, Ground), adapters exist.
This software is specific for Bafang controllers. Sorry.
Well done. Thanks.
Very good and clear video! I have 1 thing I haven't figured out yet, my display says "Intelligent" in the main screen like "Bafang". How do I customise this?
Mine also says "intelligent" during startup. I dont think this can be customized.
@@stevenc22 You can change it as some are programmed to say Bafang instead, I just haven't figured out how yet.
This is probably part of the display itself so would need to be connected to that with relevant software.
I'm hoping to find something that will allow me to change the splash screen - I also have a greyed out background option with no way to select alternatives so it would seem it's possible to customise
I've got a Bafang M200 middrive. With a 5 pins cable. What are thoughts on that?
If it's the triangle connector, that cannot be reprogrammed.
Would this work on a Kalkhoff with impulse 2.0?
Not this software. This software is for Bafang motors. Impulse might have their own software
i have 750W bbs02b with 48v 13.5ah battery. should it be possibleto
boost it to 1000w or 900.. regarding battery ah ?Thanks .
Yes. If your battery can deliver 20amp you can increase to 1000w
can you use value over 100% ?
example. set 'assist #9' speed limit to 200%
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Also, is there a minimum parameter for the motor that could damage something (the other end of exceeding maximum)? A window zone for operation min/max.
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Love your settings.
No you cannot exceed 100% but you can increase the amps if you want more.
I don't think there is a minimum and I don't think a minimum would hurt anything
@@stevenc22 But NEVER put the AMP above the Max of 25 AMP for BBS02. You will blow the controller I believe maybe the motor.
For a BBSHD I believe the Max is 30 AMP.
That said your lower settings are safer and I believe will increase range.
Great video!
My was factory set to 24. Goes good bends the high cog good
Nice.good to know...
I have one question in my mind. It is Necessary to install a gear sensor? If you have, how it affect the performance ? Thank you..
I do not have one. A gear sensor isn't necessary as long as you let off the throttle between shifts to reduce the load on the drive train
I have one and it functions perfectly and I don't really notice it, without one if you fail to stop pedalling when shifting you will snap your chain pretty quickly
If I hit a bump it'll sometimes activate briefly though, so maybe something to consider if you're riding trails
Steven, you didn't talk about the speed limit configuration. Can you configure it to override the limit?
Second tab "pedal assist", third drop down box. His reads "by displays command" which means he has gone into the "secret" screen on his display and set the max speed to his preference. I think you can use this drop down box to change the universal max speed at the controller or simply disable it.
Same question, can you override this setting, or connect to the display to change it. In Australia most bikes are limited to 25km/h which is ridiculous.
Bought a bb02b 750w a few weeks ago and it runs great, but i was curious as to how it was setup from the factory. So i bought the usb adapter and got the software.
Mine was set to 24amp as default, and max is saying 24, not 25 like most out there. Anyways i changed it to 20 just to stay on the "lower" side of things.
Thanks for the video ;) Reading tutorials is one thing, seeing how it's actually done and be able to just "copy paste" is a lot easier ;)
10/10
How fast does it go? Have the same thing
@@lilleniyo5743 With just the accelerator i can go around 45kmh on flat if there's no wind. If i pedal i can go 50 on flat.
I already have over 2000km on it, and no issues so far, no weird noises or anything.
Steven I have american rider 3.0 dose tht work with tht?
That uses a bafang m600 motor which I think is the new CAN interface which is much more locked down. I don't think you will be able to reprogram
Is this also compatible with a BAFANG M300? Or does this require other tools?
If your bafang has a round connector for screen, probably compatible. If triangle connector, not compatible.
thank you, that's good information !!!
Are you satisfied with the low settings for pedal assist 1-3? How many miles per hour or km per hours does pedal assist level 3 reach?
Maybe 10mph
@@stevenc22 thanks for your answer 👍
Hi, i have bafang 250w 36v. How to setup in Low Battery protection and Current limit section? Thanks!
For 36v your low battery cutoff is 28v and your current limit should be about 10amps.
@@stevenc22 Thank you very much!!
I have the BBS01B (36V 250W). It has current limit set to 15A. Can I change it to 20A?
36v at 20amps is 720W. Way too much for a 250w motor
@@stevenc22alright where is the cutoff?
Great explanation of the software. When changing the throttle response, I see there is also a "Speed Limit" setting that is set to "By Displays Command" . You did not have to also change that? If you were in pedal assist 1 but needed speed to cross the road as the example you give, do your still get full speed?
Yes if you set the throttle to full speed
Hi I wonder can you turn off pedelasisten because i have a 1000w bbshd BBS03 58v when fully charged and it is very dangerous from start i would gladly turn it off, please if you know how please do a video, my best regards
You can set speed limiters or limit the current in each speed setting. Yes you can turn off pedal assist. You can set assist and speed to 0 which turns off pedal assist
This is exactly what the video is all about.
if you limit the current will it make the battery more eficiant and will it give u longer milage
Yes for sure.
You might know this. Can the amps be reduced safely to only use 250 watts max? I only want one bike for private land and also road legal.
Yes of course. You can set a max amps limiting the bike to 250w
Does the software allow for a higher voltage battery pack?
A little but you cannot use a 48v pack with a 36v controller just through software. Pack must be close to correct voltage
Will the programming cable work on the rear hub motor
Depends, not on the motor, but on what controller you have. Some Bafang controllers can be programmed. However many times a Bafang motor is paired with an aftermarket controller send that will not not be programmable
Kelly Controllers also are programmable. Contact their support and five them your controller info.
Hi mate, Would you know if there is a programme cable for the bafang green 5 pin triangular cable?
Not that I know of. The triangle plug is an entirely different system and last time I checked no one had cracked it yet
@@stevenc22 Thanks for the reply mate. May just have to wait till my unit craps itself and then buy a display with the round plug.
There is some basic programming that can be done with the triangle connector. I found this. US $31.90 45%OFF | BAFANG BESST Programming Cable Speed Limit Release Wheel Diameter Setting M400 M600 M510 All CAN Protocol Motor Dedicated Line
a.aliexpress.com/_mKXKWYK
@@stevenc22 cheers Steven. I will look into it to see if it's worth it. Would have been nice to be able to set percentages for pedal assist and stuff like the non canbus type programmer cable. Oh well such is life as they say.
Thanks for the effort and for the video. Can I use a battery with 36v on 750w/1000w motor? You haven’t shown if you can change voltage below of 36v!
No. Motors have a set voltage. Some motors are 36v motors and some are 48v motors. You cannot use a 36v battery with a 48v motor regardless of settings in the controller
@@stevenc22 Steven, I have read, that some of the Bafang 1000W controllers has got an option to be used with 36V battery and to change the voltage. But no way 36V motor with 48V battery!
Be careful. A 1000w motor on a 36v battery means 35 amps. The wiring is not designed to carry 35amps. That is why 1000w motors only come in 48v because 48v uses less current.
@@stevenc22 The motor is 1000W 48V with controller of 30A! So, should be OK. My batteries are 36V/10Ah!
@@velimir.l.georgiev no it won't be! At 36v you will exceed 30a of the controller. Also a 10ah battery is small. You are going to be hitting it really hard pushing 1000w.
If you have a Bafang mid-drive this is well worth doing!
hey mate im having an issue where no matter what i do i cant have the throttle work on 0 assist
Did you manually assign the throttle to assist 8?
Great tutorial but where do I get the program I need? thanks
There are links in description
Hi where can I download the program can you put a link? Thanks, sincerely.
Link to the software in the guides I linked to
edrivenet.com/bafang-programming/