Excellent video. Few comments. Concept2 recoomend to set the damper between 2 and 5. Regarding waterrower, it worth to note that the feet are very close to each other and are higher than concept2. Many people, including me, find this very uncomfortable and hurt their knees. Or if you have a belly, you won't be able to fully extend in the catch. There is the A1 waterrower model that have a monorail, which fixes all the above issues. I am waiting for my 15 years old C2 to break to purchase the A1...
Yes - the footplate positioning is very different on both. I use both machines for different reasons, but feel more comfortable on the C2. I haven't hacked my WR to adjust the plates yet though.
We’ve had our WaterRower A1 for a month now and it’s feels and sounds great! And provides an excellent workout. I also wonder why the A1 isn’t the more popular WaterRower model because it’s foot placement is like the C2.
It's best to first define yourself as a "rower" before choosing a machine. Then it's really easy to choose a machine. C2's are typically better for fitness enthusiasts who value function and performance over form. WR's are typically better for casual exercisers who value aesthetics over performance. I use both and can get a killer workout regardless, but C2's + a performance app allow me to hack my health far better.
I chose the A1 monorail waterrower. Best bang for the buck, wider handles and better feet position. Mainly went with this because it is quiet. I can workout late or early and not disturb my wife. I’m not into all the metrics that concept 2 provides as I’m not a rower. It is just part of my workout arsenal. A1 is a great price.
The WaterRower is easy to move around, just as easy to move as concept. All the water weight is over the front wheels. Also, WaterRowers can stand up vertically so easier to store. Important thing to note!
The reason I got rid of my WaterRower was because of the rail system. One of the benefits of the Concept 2 is that the foot placement is wider. This might be a mute point for women, but for men, I think it is a big deal. I don't want to be too graphic, but my nether region was in pain almost every time I used the machine. I could never find a position to get away from it and it was all because of the two rails and not the one. That being said, I loved the sound and feel of the machine.
I have found that most women don't mind the narrow foot placement, but you are right... most men don't love how the narrow foot placement feels! - Linds
It is a little irksome to always see the damper recommendation as "between 1 and 4" etc. At least with the C 2, you can set the drag factor precisely for your particular rower. You just go to the right screen on the monitor and row for a while and it tells you.
In a commercial operation, you want maintenance-free. The Concept2 is almost maintenance free. Water rower has maintenance. Also, a minor consideration is the relationship of humidity and wood, in a dry environment, wood may develop maintenance needs.
@@alpenglow1235 Orange Theory uses metal WaterRowers (M1 HiRise painted violently orange). I’d argue those have lower maintenance requirements than a C2 over time. It’s a lot easier to drop a tablet into the tank of a WaterRower than it is to disassemble and clean out the dust build up in a C2. The downside is those are $2k making them really hard to justify outside of a commercial operation.
Can't comment for the poster, but I find the waterrower can give just as tough of a workout. On the waterrower, the harder you pull, the resistance increases in a very linear way; but the water level also changes the resistance. On the Concept 2, the resistance is static entirely based on the damper number selected, doesn't matter if you pull slow or fast, hard or soft, the same resistance will be given. We've had both, if you are really tall, the concept 2 is better, same if you have a bit of a belly. The waterrower is better for a wider range of body types, but your knees are closer together which can be an acquired taste. Another thing that may sway you, is that the waterrower is more customisable, both at purchase time and later. You can fit a smart row pulley which gives far more detailed metrics in terms of smart tracking, you can add the ergatta pack instead which includes a large screen which can show your metrics and even videos and can send your stats directly to their servers and then to your ergatta or other rowing apps for you. The upgrades are not cheap, but if you use it enough to justify them, they can be well worth it. We had the concept 2 first, then we got a waterrower, both are great, just depends which appeals more.
Excellent video. Few comments. Concept2 recoomend to set the damper between 2 and 5. Regarding waterrower, it worth to note that the feet are very close to each other and are higher than concept2. Many people, including me, find this very uncomfortable and hurt their knees. Or if you have a belly, you won't be able to fully extend in the catch. There is the A1 waterrower model that have a monorail, which fixes all the above issues. I am waiting for my 15 years old C2 to break to purchase the A1...
Yes - the footplate positioning is very different on both. I use both machines for different reasons, but feel more comfortable on the C2. I haven't hacked my WR to adjust the plates yet though.
We’ve had our WaterRower A1 for a month now and it’s feels and sounds great! And provides an excellent workout. I also wonder why the A1 isn’t the more popular WaterRower model because it’s foot placement is like the C2.
It's best to first define yourself as a "rower" before choosing a machine. Then it's really easy to choose a machine. C2's are typically better for fitness enthusiasts who value function and performance over form. WR's are typically better for casual exercisers who value aesthetics over performance. I use both and can get a killer workout regardless, but C2's + a performance app allow me to hack my health far better.
I chose the A1 monorail waterrower. Best bang for the buck, wider handles and better feet position. Mainly went with this because it is quiet. I can workout late or early and not disturb my wife. I’m not into all the metrics that concept 2 provides as I’m not a rower. It is just part of my workout arsenal. A1 is a great price.
One of the major benefits of the C2 is the way it calculates output and you can get a world wide verified ranking on the popular distance rows
Totally agree! - Linds
The WaterRower is easy to move around, just as easy to move as concept. All the water weight is over the front wheels. Also, WaterRowers can stand up vertically so easier to store. Important thing to note!
The reason I got rid of my WaterRower was because of the rail system. One of the benefits of the Concept 2 is that the foot placement is wider. This might be a mute point for women, but for men, I think it is a big deal. I don't want to be too graphic, but my nether region was in pain almost every time I used the machine. I could never find a position to get away from it and it was all because of the two rails and not the one. That being said, I loved the sound and feel of the machine.
I have found that most women don't mind the narrow foot placement, but you are right... most men don't love how the narrow foot placement feels! - Linds
Good comparison. Although the air rower has the benefit of cooling you down. Airflow proportional to the force engaged. 😊
I really like the waterrower natural. It's a shame it wasn't designed with a 1 piece tank to eliminate having to reseal the tank a some point in time.
It is a little irksome to always see the damper recommendation as "between 1 and 4" etc. At least with the C 2, you can set the drag factor precisely for your particular rower. You just go to the right screen on the monitor and row for a while and it tells you.
Good review, thanks. Minor point: while I liked the music, having it playing constantly throughout the video was distracting for me.
Thanks for the feedback, I'll mention it to our editor!! - Linds
Do you think a water rower gets the jobs done in a CrossFit workout ?
In a commercial operation, you want maintenance-free. The Concept2 is almost maintenance free. Water rower has maintenance. Also, a minor consideration is the relationship of humidity and wood, in a dry environment, wood may develop maintenance needs.
@@alpenglow1235 Orange Theory uses metal WaterRowers (M1 HiRise painted violently orange). I’d argue those have lower maintenance requirements than a C2 over time. It’s a lot easier to drop a tablet into the tank of a WaterRower than it is to disassemble and clean out the dust build up in a C2. The downside is those are $2k making them really hard to justify outside of a commercial operation.
Do you have any reviews on the yosuda rowing machine
We don't yet, is that one you are looking into buying? - Linds
Can both machines deliver the same level of maximum workout intensity?
In other words, Can the water rower give as tough a workout as the C2?, And vice versa?
Can't comment for the poster, but I find the waterrower can give just as tough of a workout. On the waterrower, the harder you pull, the resistance increases in a very linear way; but the water level also changes the resistance. On the Concept 2, the resistance is static entirely based on the damper number selected, doesn't matter if you pull slow or fast, hard or soft, the same resistance will be given. We've had both, if you are really tall, the concept 2 is better, same if you have a bit of a belly. The waterrower is better for a wider range of body types, but your knees are closer together which can be an acquired taste.
Another thing that may sway you, is that the waterrower is more customisable, both at purchase time and later. You can fit a smart row pulley which gives far more detailed metrics in terms of smart tracking, you can add the ergatta pack instead which includes a large screen which can show your metrics and even videos and can send your stats directly to their servers and then to your ergatta or other rowing apps for you. The upgrades are not cheap, but if you use it enough to justify them, they can be well worth it.
We had the concept 2 first, then we got a waterrower, both are great, just depends which appeals more.
The seat is on backwards on your Waterrower.
Some reverse the seat for comfort