It genuinely pains me to see the hate getting to you, Jack. The synth world can be very toxic sometimes. Rest assured, you are a great addition to the vast amount of synth reviewers out there. If I wanted something dry and technical, I would just read the manual or the specifications on a synthesizer. You bring something else and I thoroughly enjoy watching your videos.
Jack is clearly a phenomenal player of "traditional" keyboard, I love watching him demo pianos, organs, etc. I'm absolutely not going to use words like "hate" because I admire him massively for the above. Having said that, I'd be great if Andertons got in someone who understands the synth world to demo synths. Just like they have specific experts for guitar (Danish Pete) and Bass (the two people whose names escape me now - forgive me, I don't watch the bass channel often). A good synth demo isn't about keyboard skills, it's about understanding the sound sculpting etc. Jack is tremendous, just not right for this sort of demo in my respectful view.
@@hoagy_ytfc I respect your opinion, my counterpoint however would be that Andertons do bring in people now and then that are more knowledgeable in patching and sound sculpting. In reviews they don't, you can always find someone else on TH-cam that will have covered the same instrument with a more technical approach. The playing skills and perspective that Jack brings to the table is a really nice addition to the buffet of synth reviews that exists in TH-cam. And personally, I prefer Jack most of the time because he is an awesome guy, down to earth and generally enjoyable to watch. Edit/footnote: Jack even mentions the more technical oriented youtubers in most videos. Like a true scholar.
Great demo, Jack! Loved that you guys included the whole process. Folks here whining about the price - you're getting a genuine Moog VCO/Filter system in a single unit, something in Modular that would be 3+ units and cost twice as much. This thing is a solid starting point, or addition to a small system. Zero complaints. Moog's knocked this one out of the park.
Jack, you're great. You need to understand that. If you were one of these "synth wizards", then I probably wouldn't be a subscriber. We are just like you, we are just trying to figure this stuff out so we can have some fun with it and make some music.
Just read the below comment. Just to be clear, you are the most enjoyable synth reviewdr there is for me. Exactly what someone without in-depth synth knowledge like me needs. Your reviews are invaluable
I absolutely love these videos. If you want more technical stuff there's plenty of that around, but no-one else's videos contain so much joy :~) Have I got more technical knowledge? Well, probably, but I've been at it since the early 70's so I damn well should have, (although I'll never be as good a keyboard player!), but these videos are different, they're all about the excitement of trying something new that you don't quite understand, and with enormous amounts of enthusiasm that I'm actually quite envious of. Yes, these days I could patch this thing up in seconds and know exactly what was going to come out, but I wouldn't have anywhere near as much fun.... So ignore all the badness, it all comes from old fogeys like me (you can become an old fogey at 23 if you really work at it....). You always inspire me to plug something into the wrong hole (ooer missus!) just to see what happens. Keep up the good work!
Love The Modular Cafe, so cool its a short drive away. spot on with the after performance open floor session asking questions and them telling how they screwed up some bits. Yet all sounded superb !
Don't be afraid Jack, the internet hates everything and everyone for no reason, no one sane listens to that silliness. Love that you embrace the hate, and do your own thing anyway 😁
I can hear music teachers all over the land going "yes please!". I'm not an electronics or keyboard nerd but I learned something about electronic sound production from Jack! Like "ohh that's what that does!".
Great video, Jack, love how your struggling - also, this is exactly why I sold my Make Noise O-Coast after getting it as my very first synth. The videos on the internet showed crazy stuff what you could do with it but I didn't even know back then what an LFO is let alone what any of the cables did (and the O-Coast manual is like to sheets of toilet paper, didn't help). I'm slowly learning but as of now, I prefer less steampunk-ish, more intelligent gear, like the Norand Mono (or the Melbourne Instruments Nina at NAMM looked awesome, that's next-generation G.A.S. for me).
Nice vid Jack, as always, and well done getting through the assembly bit, but I agree with some of the others here, not feeling it with this unit for £339 to be fair. 😒
Oh and how good were the comments on the Elektron video the other day about how jack wasn't showing the immense capabilities of the sequencer, micro timing and parameter locking the shit out of everything including the toilet seat. lol
I know it’s a real Moog , but way too expensive for a bleep bloop bleep . Not sure , but didn’t Korg do something like it a while back , much cheaper too ? At over £300.00 so much more out there , not sure the real hard core modular guys will want one and casual synth people like me would rather go for a second hand DeepMind 6 / any mono Behringer synth at this cost . The cards are a great idea and some of the noises it makes are very cool , amazing bottom end , but is it £300 plus cool , no arp , internal fx , sequencer etc oh and you have to make it yourself 🤣 Great video as usual from Jack though
If you consider it a synth voice for eurorack, it is quite cheap. Compare it to doepfer a-115 and to malekko manther growl. It has more patchable points, more hp real state but more modular features. The only contender in my opinion in this range would be the east beast.
It plays very well with the DFAM or the Subharmonicon and if you leave the case away, you can stick it straight into a Eurorack. So I think that's what the main purpose of it is (and this would also explain why it doesn't have octave shift - it's supposed to be a weird noise generator controlled over CV).
Could be interesting, gonna cost you 3-6 grand though, depending on how many oscillators. Only poly moog I would consider is a clone tbh, just bc I'm not absolutely loaded. Or software.
Thanks for the name check guys. You can find out more about the Modular Cafe Aldershot here: th-cam.com/channels/TIs82BZ0usFljpMzmiD-NA.html and here: facebook.com/themodularcafealdershot. Meeting deets are on the FB page - do pop in and say hi if you're ever in the area!
@@jameshall1075 @James Hall I understand why you'd think that from Jack's explanation, but it's really a performer's nerves coming through. They may say 'Oh that didn't work, I messed that up', but the audience engage with them, are interested in their process and passion, and show real support to some incredibly creative people. We are proud to offer an environment where people are able to beat their nerves and play their music in front of an audience, often for the first time.
The very first thing I'd do if I were stuck with this as my only semi=modular synth is install proper knobs on these pots, ones suitable for adult size fingers not ones of a two-year old. Not sure why of all things the manufacturers decided to economise on a few milligrams of plastic, but if it's the environmental thing - then make them out of metal or wood. One of the most important points in choosing hardware over DAW is direct, manual hands on control, ruining that part just doesn't seem like a very solid market strategy.
Don't let the hate get to you Jack! You do a great job demo-ing. There's plenty of room for your 'less than stellar' reviews in my heart anyways ❤️ how is it your fault the ubxa under delivered?? If people don't know you're a keyboard player at heart by now they can sod off.
When a company passes the assembly line duties onto the customer! Also, best of luck to the Moog Music Labor Union: Moog workers fighting for a livable wage, better employee ownership practices, and I think that was it.... Oh yeah, marginalized people get fired from Moog at a higher rate. Not to mention a worker recently settled with Moog for gender discrimination. Some of the big news outlets never mentioned this "bcuz moog = God" but the truth is out there now. Not even a fancy desk cactus can hide it. No single company is above criticism.
If you're looking for a bassline synth with a bit more functions, the Moog Minotaur costs only slightly more. While the Norand Mono is an awesome sounding mono synth that is very approachable as you can add an LFO to ANY of it's 20-something knobs just by pressing a button, but it's over 800€.
I know it’s a Moog but over £300.00 to make random squelchy farty noises is a bit much . The cue cards are a great idea and as a learning tool it’s tip top , although , I think Korg brought out something similar , build your own mono synth etc but at more realistic price . I’m pretty sure the hard core modular crowd will pass it by and you could get a second hand DeepMind6 / Behringer mini Moog clone for the same price / cheaper to make music and the odd silly beepy noise , enjoyed Jacks review even though it’s not for me .
Anyone who has a pop at you for your synth knowledge can come and deal with me, young Jack! Can pretty much guarantee none of them have your playing chops and they are almost certain to be less entertaining than the J Dizzle / Falcon combo.
Are "playing chops" what make a good synth demo, though? Loopop possibly doesn't have Jack's playing chops, but he does a way stronger job of telling us what the kit can do.
I would like to know why, all through the 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's the word "Moog" was pronounced like it looks. Moo-g. Like "Moo" that we attribute to cows. Why, then, has the pronunciation of the word "Moog" all of a sudden gone from "Moo-g" to "Moge" or "Mogue"? Does anyone have ay idea why this happened?
@@xfghffhfg I learned it from the many famous rock musicians like Rick Wakeman, Keith Emerson, Uriah Heep, and hundreds of others whom always said it like MOO-G. Two long O's. EVERYONE was saying it wrong, then, because they started saying later on as "Moag-lomng O.
It genuinely pains me to see the hate getting to you, Jack. The synth world can be very toxic sometimes. Rest assured, you are a great addition to the vast amount of synth reviewers out there. If I wanted something dry and technical, I would just read the manual or the specifications on a synthesizer. You bring something else and I thoroughly enjoy watching your videos.
hateful like the moog subharmonicon...sometimes a great gear,sometimes a bit ugly tech
@@holzhauser3532 could get better with the mavis .... as main voice maybe?!
Jack is clearly a phenomenal player of "traditional" keyboard, I love watching him demo pianos, organs, etc.
I'm absolutely not going to use words like "hate" because I admire him massively for the above.
Having said that, I'd be great if Andertons got in someone who understands the synth world to demo synths. Just like they have specific experts for guitar (Danish Pete) and Bass (the two people whose names escape me now - forgive me, I don't watch the bass channel often).
A good synth demo isn't about keyboard skills, it's about understanding the sound sculpting etc.
Jack is tremendous, just not right for this sort of demo in my respectful view.
@@hoagy_ytfc I respect your opinion, my counterpoint however would be that Andertons do bring in people now and then that are more knowledgeable in patching and sound sculpting. In reviews they don't, you can always find someone else on TH-cam that will have covered the same instrument with a more technical approach.
The playing skills and perspective that Jack brings to the table is a really nice addition to the buffet of synth reviews that exists in TH-cam. And personally, I prefer Jack most of the time because he is an awesome guy, down to earth and generally enjoyable to watch.
Edit/footnote: Jack even mentions the more technical oriented youtubers in most videos. Like a true scholar.
Great demo, Jack! Loved that you guys included the whole process.
Folks here whining about the price - you're getting a genuine Moog VCO/Filter system in a single unit, something in Modular that would be 3+ units and cost twice as much. This thing is a solid starting point, or addition to a small system. Zero complaints. Moog's knocked this one out of the park.
Jack, you're great. You need to understand that. If you were one of these "synth wizards", then I probably wouldn't be a subscriber. We are just like you, we are just trying to figure this stuff out so we can have some fun with it and make some music.
Just read the below comment. Just to be clear, you are the most enjoyable synth reviewdr there is for me. Exactly what someone without in-depth synth knowledge like me needs. Your reviews are invaluable
As someone who's always been curious about this sort of thing, this type of device would be super approachable for me. Thanks!
This is very cool! I think I need one to play with my Moog Grandmother. Great job, Jack! Love your shows.
I absolutely love these videos. If you want more technical stuff there's plenty of that around, but no-one else's videos contain so much joy :~)
Have I got more technical knowledge? Well, probably, but I've been at it since the early 70's so I damn well should have, (although I'll never be as good a keyboard player!), but these videos are different, they're all about the excitement of trying something new that you don't quite understand, and with enormous amounts of enthusiasm that I'm actually quite envious of. Yes, these days I could patch this thing up in seconds and know exactly what was going to come out, but I wouldn't have anywhere near as much fun....
So ignore all the badness, it all comes from old fogeys like me (you can become an old fogey at 23 if you really work at it....). You always inspire me to plug something into the wrong hole (ooer missus!) just to see what happens. Keep up the good work!
Great video!! I wasn't sure about this but you sold me on it.
Love The Modular Cafe, so cool its a short drive away. spot on with the after performance open floor session asking questions and them telling how they screwed up some bits. Yet all sounded superb !
Very cool! Sounds good, Jack! Looking forward to the Patriarch.
Don't be afraid Jack, the internet hates everything and everyone for no reason, no one sane listens to that silliness.
Love that you embrace the hate, and do your own thing anyway 😁
Nice work Jack, Andertons have just sold me yet another piece of gear I don't need (but SOOO do need) …
I can hear music teachers all over the land going "yes please!". I'm not an electronics or keyboard nerd but I learned something about electronic sound production from Jack! Like "ohh that's what that does!".
This video was entertaining and helpful. Thank you.
I’m so excited about the mavis. Great review and demo! Thank you! Jack needs some love after the ub-xa review :) I love your channel, guys
Superb once again Jack. Like I said before I'm no keyboard player, but your videos are great.
Great video, Jack, love how your struggling - also, this is exactly why I sold my Make Noise O-Coast after getting it as my very first synth. The videos on the internet showed crazy stuff what you could do with it but I didn't even know back then what an LFO is let alone what any of the cables did (and the O-Coast manual is like to sheets of toilet paper, didn't help). I'm slowly learning but as of now, I prefer less steampunk-ish, more intelligent gear, like the Norand Mono (or the Melbourne Instruments Nina at NAMM looked awesome, that's next-generation G.A.S. for me).
“Positively squelchy” needs to be on a t-shirt
Oh this might finally be a moog I buy!
amig. Yeah.you created awesome picture! take care-;))
love your reviews!
Video capture at 0:27 should be the thumbnail for this.
Nice vid Jack, as always, and well done getting through the assembly bit, but I agree with some of the others here, not feeling it with this unit for £339 to be fair. 😒
Awesome once again, cheers J & F :)
Great video. Interesting product. But more importantly... you need coasters! Just look at those mug rings on the table 🙄
Oh and how good were the comments on the Elektron video the other day about how jack wasn't showing the immense capabilities of the sequencer, micro timing and parameter locking the shit out of everything including the toilet seat. lol
I wish my Sub 37 had those patch overlay things.
finally a moog I can afford. DK if I want it though with the strike stuff goin on....
Is this the Werkstatt-01... v. 2.0? I'll probably pick it up and add it to my Werk and see if I can get both voices to work together.
We need more Behringer, the comments sections are more fun than taking acid with the Teletubbies!
I know it’s a real Moog , but way too expensive for a bleep bloop bleep . Not sure , but didn’t Korg do something like it a while back , much cheaper too ? At over £300.00 so much more out there , not sure the real hard core modular guys will want one and casual synth people like me would rather go for a second hand DeepMind 6 / any mono Behringer synth at this cost . The cards are a great idea and some of the noises it makes are very cool , amazing bottom end , but is it £300 plus cool , no arp , internal fx , sequencer etc oh and you have to make it yourself 🤣 Great video as usual from Jack though
If you consider it a synth voice for eurorack, it is quite cheap. Compare it to doepfer a-115 and to malekko manther growl. It has more patchable points, more hp real state but more modular features. The only contender in my opinion in this range would be the east beast.
Jack, Mavis Riley is a famous character from CORONATION STREET, not Emmerdale!
Came here to say just that!
It looks good but already have 2 Werkstatt’s and a Mother 32, thanks for the review Jack!
Reminds me a little of the MS-20.
Yeah, but it's actually more like an MS-10 (only one oscillator).
This is pretty underwhelming if I’m being honest. Would love to see Moog make a new polysynth series of keyboards.
It plays very well with the DFAM or the Subharmonicon and if you leave the case away, you can stick it straight into a Eurorack. So I think that's what the main purpose of it is (and this would also explain why it doesn't have octave shift - it's supposed to be a weird noise generator controlled over CV).
Agreed, a smaller poly synth that you can gig with.
Could be interesting, gonna cost you 3-6 grand though, depending on how many oscillators. Only poly moog I would consider is a clone tbh, just bc I'm not absolutely loaded. Or software.
What software synth comes closest to doing what the Mavis does?
I can think of many that do way more. That's not really the point though, is it?
@@hoagy_ytfc yes he should be ashamed for asking :)
Excellent 👍
Hmm not sure, I don't think I can see anything I can't get in one of the Behringer units which seem to have more features for the same or less money
Thanks for the name check guys. You can find out more about the Modular Cafe Aldershot here: th-cam.com/channels/TIs82BZ0usFljpMzmiD-NA.html and here: facebook.com/themodularcafealdershot. Meeting deets are on the FB page - do pop in and say hi if you're ever in the area!
Sounds like a whole lot of pretentious people to me, no thanks.
@@jameshall1075 @James Hall I understand why you'd think that from Jack's explanation, but it's really a performer's nerves coming through. They may say 'Oh that didn't work, I messed that up', but the audience engage with them, are interested in their process and passion, and show real support to some incredibly creative people. We are proud to offer an environment where people are able to beat their nerves and play their music in front of an audience, often for the first time.
The very first thing I'd do if I were stuck with this as my only semi=modular synth is install proper knobs on these pots, ones suitable for adult size fingers not ones of a two-year old. Not sure why of all things the manufacturers decided to economise on a few milligrams of plastic, but if it's the environmental thing - then make them out of metal or wood. One of the most important points in choosing hardware over DAW is direct, manual hands on control, ruining that part just doesn't seem like a very solid market strategy.
Nice one as always Jack, well done for getting through the build too, but gotta say, sadly just not feeling it for £339.
Don't let the hate get to you Jack! You do a great job demo-ing. There's plenty of room for your 'less than stellar' reviews in my heart anyways ❤️ how is it your fault the ubxa under delivered?? If people don't know you're a keyboard player at heart by now they can sod off.
At 99 quid this would be awesome. At 300+ pounds, this is a great big yawn.
I love my Werkstatt and other Moog synths. I am VERY disappointed with the Mavis, specifically the cheap plastic enclosure. A big step down for Moog.
When a company passes the assembly line duties onto the customer! Also, best of luck to the Moog Music Labor Union: Moog workers fighting for a livable wage, better employee ownership practices, and I think that was it.... Oh yeah, marginalized people get fired from Moog at a higher rate. Not to mention a worker recently settled with Moog for gender discrimination. Some of the big news outlets never mentioned this "bcuz moog = God" but the truth is out there now. Not even a fancy desk cactus can hide it. No single company is above criticism.
what is the price range? also is there any older models as good or any different versions?
If you're looking for a bassline synth with a bit more functions, the Moog Minotaur costs only slightly more. While the Norand Mono is an awesome sounding mono synth that is very approachable as you can add an LFO to ANY of it's 20-something knobs just by pressing a button, but it's over 800€.
The name is surely inspired by Willo the Wisp
Mavis Cruet was my first thought
I think everyone wants the Spectravox, not a follow up to the Werkstatt.... (the wavefolder is sweet, shame it cant be cv controlled)
I know it’s a Moog but over £300.00 to make random squelchy farty noises is a bit much . The cue cards are a great idea and as a learning tool it’s tip top , although , I think Korg brought out something similar , build your own mono synth etc but at more realistic price . I’m pretty sure the hard core modular crowd will pass it by and you could get a second hand DeepMind6 / Behringer mini Moog clone for the same price / cheaper to make music and the odd silly beepy noise , enjoyed Jacks review even though it’s not for me .
Anyone who has a pop at you for your synth knowledge can come and deal with me, young Jack! Can pretty much guarantee none of them have your playing chops and they are almost certain to be less entertaining than the J Dizzle / Falcon combo.
Are "playing chops" what make a good synth demo, though? Loopop possibly doesn't have Jack's playing chops, but he does a way stronger job of telling us what the kit can do.
Price today 349$, don´t know how this translates into other currencies.
Carousel of Progress should be in the National Registry. Lincoln and the Presidents should be too.
I would like to know why, all through the 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's the word "Moog" was pronounced like it looks. Moo-g. Like "Moo" that we attribute to cows. Why, then, has the pronunciation of the word "Moog" all of a sudden gone from "Moo-g" to "Moge" or "Mogue"? Does anyone have ay idea why this happened?
you've been saying it wrong for 30 years :)
@@xfghffhfg I learned it from the many famous rock musicians like Rick Wakeman, Keith Emerson, Uriah Heep, and hundreds of others whom always said it like MOO-G. Two long O's. EVERYONE was saying it wrong, then, because they started saying later on as "Moag-lomng O.
@@redneckchester6105 your right about that :)
bleep,buzz, etc.....but where is the music?
oh you looking for some true music
at £339 noooooooo!
Just came in here to share the hate...
Mavis? Sounds like a grandmother…… ahhhhh
Whats gone wrong with Moog,sorry seems like they have lost the plot somewhere,
This synth is sort of meh.
and yet it's more important than you.
yet another basic Moog...
15:20 don't say that please it spoils the video. Downvote from me as a result.
Such a fragile soul huh? Grow up geez
Uh oh, did you need a trigger warning or a safe space to watch this in?
Man, someone said something you don't agree with on the internet, and you get upset and virtue signal. Life must be hard.
Really? Which bit? The word "sick"? or "dope"? Or the humility that followed? I can't see the problem.