I still think that Junksworn was designed for Engineer. It'd likely synergize well with the Explosions and Firearms trait lines. Warrior just got it bolted on, because they wanted Engineer to have Jade trash instead and didn't actually bother designing a specialization that properly fits Warrior. Warrior then got the discarded scraps from Engineer. Having a ranged support Warrior, like Paragon was in GW1, would have been far superior. And no, Guardian doesn't even come close to resemble Paragon.
Can't say I'm in any way an expert on warrior but i really enjoy playing it in all game modes, love your videos too, great insight on how the class works and it really shows that you care deeply about warrior's place in the game So i think that even if we don't get anything new from Soto, we still have enough versatility and warrior still will be actively played everywhere, but i don't like what they did with balancing in the last months and hope the direction of warrior patches will change for the better Sorry for long text lmao not used to commenting on yt but really wish that your channel will grow, great content brother
they probably have to rework all the existing traits if they want to make all weapons viable for specific builds. They don't have any new spec to work with anyway so might as well spend resources on the current ones which are technically completed just need tweaking
I come from black desert and when I started playing GW2 I expected the warrior to be something similar, but the warrior's abilities are too minimalist and almost all the same, I felt they tried to make a class as easy as possible.
main reason why im still conflicted to buy the new expansion. other than new content warrior is still the same old warrior with ironically having bad traits and bad weapon synergy although Anet itself labelled them as "master-of-weapon" class. Until that fateful day where warrior finally see the ray from heaven after being in the depths of hell, i would stay as a hard working fisherman in NKC 😂
For my noob PvE experience, Warrior has basically 2 weapons for Power Builds. GS and Axe/Axe. The need for a rework does indeed become greater and greater :( But we Warriors are Bonk! I mean Stronk. X)
i wouldn't say, need for rework gets bigger, but certainly more visible. "Vengefull Return and Friends" didn't get any worse but any good stuff added makes crap look worse by contrast.
Dont forget we get staff as a new weapon. Maybe it will change things but i agree that this change is not as exciting for warrior as for other classes.
@@CazaliEiben the thing is, warrior players for quite a long time ask for anything to enable support warrior playstyle, so I'm positive that'll be at least taken into consideration. And i guess (its a strech i know) that the old whacking people with the banner like it used to bee in the beta, will be at least referenced in Staff's moveset.
@@captaincrapface7337 Arenanet has not once taken it in consideration for almost 11 years now. What makes you think they suddenly start now? And no, I don't count the changes to banners after the loss of unique effects, which only caused Warrior to be less desirable in groups (at least in my experiences). And the changes to banners, that many asked for on the forums to at least make the usage of banners less clunky, are still nowhere to be found. Effectively destroying Heat the Soul for boon vomit on Berserker isn't "taking support Warrior into consideration" either in my opinion. To me, that one feels little more than just "let's put it anywhere on Warrior so it looks like we haven't forgotten them again.".
@@CazaliEiben Anet didn't do much in last 11 years indeed, but for at least half of the time game was either on life support or in constant state of dissarray as devs didn't knew for how long they can ride this train. Now that we have actuall updates to the game every three months rather than years, we can belive devs are actually focused at making this game good. From choice of weapons that were left shortbow or MHpistol fit non-mage better than staff. Even if we look towards similar daredevillish style of staff wiealding. If i had to be honest, yes the garbage patch does fill me with worries, but it seems more like step backwards to three consecutive steps forward that were previous patches. Gyala Delve was trash too as far as we can be concidered, but that dosn't affect quality of upcoming content as just like weapon changes, they were in making long before disaasterous 2nd quarter if the year. On top of which Berserker in pve is such a massive mess it couldn't be made worse on purpouse, let alone accidentaly. Yes i think Anet's treatment of warrior deserves scrutony at the very least, but I'm not feeding myself either hopium nor the opposite. I came to the conclusion warriors staff will at least lean towards support, becouse it makes sense. Warr needs supportive primary to ever become a support, ant thats only playstyle he cannot preform at compwtitive level in either of gamemodes. I hope I made my stance clear :)
Could pistol offhand work better than GS on power berserker? one could spin with offhand axe, and then blast with pistol without dropping main hand axe
the issue is, main hand axe isn't really that good. It certainly will work if don't get kited, but that's last of your problems in current meta. Main hand sword, preforms better, even on power builds, due to hihger mobility and freedom of movement with bursts. sword-pistol-Greatsword, might endup as Berserker's best High-elo power build, but that's at best an educated guess, especialy since we still know next to nothing about relics, and how they'll impact the game as a whole.
@@captaincrapface7337 Yeah, for PvP for sure. I hate main hand axe on things that aren't bladesworn. But PvE Zerker could gain from it, especially after they screwed arc divider
"Fierce as Fire" requires you to spend 10 ammo to fully benefit, + Torch's cooldowns withaout old "Heat the Soul" are long as Moscow-Wladyslavostock railroad. Torch needs a little bit more off a glowup than just this. Your idea wolfn't be enough, bit it is certainly aiming for the right direction.
May I recommend you use Balanced stance instead of the Banner? It is just sooo much better.. You have a 40s stunbreak that pulses stability and reduces incoming power damage, the banner is just in every way worse than that
I use what i consider is going to be most effective on the match ahead of me. My skills/traits often change from game to game. Im not spamming the banner, i just tought it'll be beter in that specific game i played that day, in the moment of recording. But thanks for input nontheless. Its aprecheated.
I have 2 warrior builds. And i don't know if its because im broken. But i can't seem to play anything but beserker. And one shot beserker. It isn't good in zergs and isnt good in 1v1's but plays and feels best in small skirmishes 3-7 targets. It cant initiate and cant tank. It also has no ranged damage or pressure. But it's very satisfying hitting 3 targets for 16k each in 1 second. But you need other people to either finish them off or tank damage while you finish them off.
Berserker isn't the best spec in the game, not even best warrior speck, but with superspeed and "Feel no Pain" and his unique bursts, does have a fair bit of skill expression.
honestly it's the same thing for thief but thief just has better elite weapons but I still have brain damage from the deadeye nerfs so it's dead to me.
i'd like for it to be dead to everyone, but some folk know how to abuse the janky mess that stealth is, and until stealth gets adressed, well never have "balanced" thief.
Scepter seem work very well with Deadeyes or Daredevil I've been test from the beta it turn out that its good than I thought same as Rifile with daredevil but Specter is one strugle to other option weapons but at least it better stage than Warrior
@@petejp6189 yeah thief weapons are decent but they lose all the good stuff from playing it outside the specialization like warrior, I also beta tested every class besides revenant. In comparison to the other classes warrior and thief have the worst elite weapon versatility by far, elementalist and necro being the real ones that come out on top with the weapon mastery.
@@imabirdo ele and necro will be good becuase most of that weapons are not specific any machanic to do so. While other still need some machanic to fullfill it potentiels
Daredevil practically never uses staff (unless you are really stubborn) so mayby finaly something worth cooking with :) On top of which, i higly doubt anet devs are that stupid, and i expect warrior's staff to be at least leaning towards support, shareing the same core fantasy as the banners.
@@akhsdenlew1861 Id place my bet at something in between all of these three. Im preety shure devs realize there is a demand for support warrior so therefore skills that rode on thar "banner fantasy" are going to find lush soil. Also, just third power twohander, would be too plane even for warrior standards, and with Bladesworn they already shown that they can force themselves into making something more creative that the same violence stick again.
If next balance is change many elite to have other condi option(similar virtuoso) may be it can work but other still not good to play around as PVE player I see no benefit to use Dagger+Dagger is a good place in any comtents outside it own elite. It can remove boon! Ok but it would be work very well with Spellbreaker since you can stack Attacker insight buff while Berserker or Bladesworn have non same as Pistol with very high cap of ammo system also other elite like Berserker or Spellbreaker don't have anything to do with this machanic at all!.
Trait lines primarly, they drag weapons down most of the time. For example, if you want to play power zerker now you might take sword-axe and Greatsword. Defense-Discipline-Berserker is best build right now, which means you have to deal with longer cooldowns on GS and sword mainhand becouse Strenth is risky to play and Arms is plain griefing. removing all CD traits would be a significant QoL improvement to warrior as a whole.
@@captaincrapface7337 Fair enough, appreciate the answer. Thinking back to you last Vid about Maces though I can’t help but feel that at least the AA needs to be significantly changed to make it worthwhile. Same for Torch OH in my opinion. GS 2 is also kinda LOL in my opinion for rooting the player in place.
@@preytorben "Hundred Bades" does suffer a lot from being rooted, and so did "Flurry". The fact that they removed self-root from "Flurry" and removed self-slow from "Whirling Wrath" (bad idea) fills me with hope for "Hundred Blades" in the future. It could allow movement at 50% future.
only bad weapons on warrior is offhand sword mainhand mace , torch somewhat unless you use arms and diel wielding im your viper build. everything else rips, hammer is the new meta . corewarrior is infinitely better, discipline is kinda uneccessary now with , Hambow is still opd. it all went downhill with HoT torch, 1 offhand weapon is a fucking insult since torch blows. how can offhand be acceptable with poor condi application Anet is fuc king combat braindead 0 new weapons into the game. thief staff daredevil is unstoppable now, or with sceptor mainhand...oldxwespons still need attention
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Vengeful return still exiting is an insult
I wonder if they'll put some staff skill trait in that slot and get rid of it
I still think that Junksworn was designed for Engineer. It'd likely synergize well with the Explosions and Firearms trait lines.
Warrior just got it bolted on, because they wanted Engineer to have Jade trash instead and didn't actually bother designing a specialization that properly fits Warrior. Warrior then got the discarded scraps from Engineer.
Having a ranged support Warrior, like Paragon was in GW1, would have been far superior.
And no, Guardian doesn't even come close to resemble Paragon.
can only nod in pain.
Can't say I'm in any way an expert on warrior but i really enjoy playing it in all game modes, love your videos too, great insight on how the class works and it really shows that you care deeply about warrior's place in the game
So i think that even if we don't get anything new from Soto, we still have enough versatility and warrior still will be actively played everywhere, but i don't like what they did with balancing in the last months and hope the direction of warrior patches will change for the better
Sorry for long text lmao not used to commenting on yt but really wish that your channel will grow, great content brother
they probably have to rework all the existing traits if they want to make all weapons viable for specific builds. They don't have any new spec to work with anyway so might as well spend resources on the current ones which are technically completed just need tweaking
Nah, they too busy giving Guardian smoother animations.
Its so upsetting its also funny.
I come from black desert and when I started playing GW2 I expected the warrior to be something similar, but the warrior's abilities are too minimalist and almost all the same, I felt they tried to make a class as easy as possible.
Try ranger and see the difference in approach.
Good video
main reason why im still conflicted to buy the new expansion. other than new content warrior is still the same old warrior with ironically having bad traits and bad weapon synergy although Anet itself labelled them as "master-of-weapon" class.
Until that fateful day where warrior finally see the ray from heaven after being in the depths of hell, i would stay as a hard working fisherman in NKC 😂
For my noob PvE experience, Warrior has basically 2 weapons for Power Builds. GS and Axe/Axe.
The need for a rework does indeed become greater and greater :(
But we Warriors are Bonk!
I mean Stronk. X)
i wouldn't say, need for rework gets bigger, but certainly more visible.
"Vengefull Return and Friends" didn't get any worse but any good stuff added makes crap look worse by contrast.
Dont forget we get staff as a new weapon. Maybe it will change things but i agree that this change is not as exciting for warrior as for other classes.
New weapons come three months after SotO drops, so they aren't counted as the same update.
Seeing how even Pistol ended up being a melee power weapon, I don't see how Staff will be any different.
@@CazaliEiben the thing is, warrior players for quite a long time ask for anything to enable support warrior playstyle, so I'm positive that'll be at least taken into consideration.
And i guess (its a strech i know) that the old whacking people with the banner like it used to bee in the beta, will be at least referenced in Staff's moveset.
@@captaincrapface7337 Arenanet has not once taken it in consideration for almost 11 years now. What makes you think they suddenly start now?
And no, I don't count the changes to banners after the loss of unique effects, which only caused Warrior to be less desirable in groups (at least in my experiences). And the changes to banners, that many asked for on the forums to at least make the usage of banners less clunky, are still nowhere to be found.
Effectively destroying Heat the Soul for boon vomit on Berserker isn't "taking support Warrior into consideration" either in my opinion. To me, that one feels little more than just "let's put it anywhere on Warrior so it looks like we haven't forgotten them again.".
@@CazaliEiben Anet didn't do much in last 11 years indeed, but for at least half of the time game was either on life support or in constant state of dissarray as devs didn't knew for how long they can ride this train.
Now that we have actuall updates to the game every three months rather than years, we can belive devs are actually focused at making this game good.
From choice of weapons that were left shortbow or MHpistol fit non-mage better than staff. Even if we look towards similar daredevillish style of staff wiealding.
If i had to be honest, yes the garbage patch does fill me with worries, but it seems more like step backwards to three consecutive steps forward that were previous patches.
Gyala Delve was trash too as far as we can be concidered, but that dosn't affect quality of upcoming content as just like weapon changes, they were in making long before disaasterous 2nd quarter if the year.
On top of which Berserker in pve is such a massive mess it couldn't be made worse on purpouse, let alone accidentaly. Yes i think Anet's treatment of warrior deserves scrutony at the very least, but I'm not feeding myself either hopium nor the opposite.
I came to the conclusion warriors staff will at least lean towards support, becouse it makes sense.
Warr needs supportive primary to ever become a support, ant thats only playstyle he cannot preform at compwtitive level in either of gamemodes.
I hope I made my stance clear :)
Could pistol offhand work better than GS on power berserker? one could spin with offhand axe, and then blast with pistol without dropping main hand axe
the issue is, main hand axe isn't really that good. It certainly will work if don't get kited, but that's last of your problems in current meta. Main hand sword, preforms better, even on power builds, due to hihger mobility and freedom of movement with bursts.
sword-pistol-Greatsword, might endup as Berserker's best High-elo power build, but that's at best an educated guess, especialy since we still know next to nothing about relics, and how they'll impact the game as a whole.
@@captaincrapface7337 Yeah, for PvP for sure. I hate main hand axe on things that aren't bladesworn.
But PvE Zerker could gain from it, especially after they screwed arc divider
@@feniu10 considering they buffed Divider up to 3,5 power ratio I rather doubt axe-pislol will replace GS.
Isn't torch 4 an ammo skill in pvp/wvw? Just make it an explosive too, and Bladesworn weapon diversity is saved! /s
"Fierce as Fire" requires you to spend 10 ammo to fully benefit, + Torch's cooldowns withaout old "Heat the Soul" are long as Moscow-Wladyslavostock railroad.
Torch needs a little bit more off a glowup than just this.
Your idea wolfn't be enough, bit it is certainly aiming for the right direction.
May I recommend you use Balanced stance instead of the Banner? It is just sooo much better.. You have a 40s stunbreak that pulses stability and reduces incoming power damage, the banner is just in every way worse than that
I use what i consider is going to be most effective on the match ahead of me. My skills/traits often change from game to game.
Im not spamming the banner, i just tought it'll be beter in that specific game i played that day, in the moment of recording.
But thanks for input nontheless. Its aprecheated.
I have 2 warrior builds. And i don't know if its because im broken. But i can't seem to play anything but beserker. And one shot beserker. It isn't good in zergs and isnt good in 1v1's but plays and feels best in small skirmishes 3-7 targets. It cant initiate and cant tank. It also has no ranged damage or pressure. But it's very satisfying hitting 3 targets for 16k each in 1 second. But you need other people to either finish them off or tank damage while you finish them off.
Berserker isn't the best spec in the game, not even best warrior speck, but with superspeed and "Feel no Pain" and his unique bursts, does have a fair bit of skill expression.
honestly it's the same thing for thief but thief just has better elite weapons but I still have brain damage from the deadeye nerfs so it's dead to me.
i'd like for it to be dead to everyone, but some folk know how to abuse the janky mess that stealth is, and until stealth gets adressed, well never have "balanced" thief.
Scepter seem work very well with Deadeyes or Daredevil I've been test from the beta it turn out that its good than I thought same as Rifile with daredevil but Specter is one strugle to other option weapons but at least it better stage than Warrior
@@petejp6189 yeah thief weapons are decent but they lose all the good stuff from playing it outside the specialization like warrior, I also beta tested every class besides revenant.
In comparison to the other classes warrior and thief have the worst elite weapon versatility by far, elementalist and necro being the real ones that come out on top with the weapon mastery.
@@imabirdo ele and necro will be good becuase most of that weapons are not specific any machanic to do so. While other still need some machanic to fullfill it potentiels
i want dual pistol, war but i get staff war ? daredevil 2.0
Daredevil practically never uses staff (unless you are really stubborn) so mayby finaly something worth cooking with :)
On top of which, i higly doubt anet devs are that stupid, and i expect warrior's staff to be at least leaning towards support, shareing the same core fantasy as the banners.
@@captaincrapface7337 i expect warrior's staff to be like daredevil's staff and revenant staff..
Definetly not like the guardian staff.
@@akhsdenlew1861 Id place my bet at something in between all of these three.
Im preety shure devs realize there is a demand for support warrior so therefore skills that rode on thar "banner fantasy" are going to find lush soil.
Also, just third power twohander, would be too plane even for warrior standards, and with Bladesworn they already shown that they can force themselves into making something more creative that the same violence stick again.
I think it also doesn't help thief much... and honestly I don't see many of my build change weapons
Scepter is really underrated, power or condi. That thing on a daredevil is going to be a bane of my life.
rifle daredevil oh boy
even without malice it is gonna be somthing
@@KashimaShiro mayby they'll finaly realise how toxic this piece of sheise is and finally bloody nerf it.
If next balance is change many elite to have other condi option(similar virtuoso) may be it can work but other still not good to play around as PVE player I see no benefit to use Dagger+Dagger is a good place in any comtents outside it own elite. It can remove boon! Ok but it would be work very well with Spellbreaker since you can stack Attacker insight buff while Berserker or Bladesworn have non same as Pistol with very high cap of ammo system also other elite like Berserker or Spellbreaker don't have anything to do with this machanic at all!.
Add thief to this list
it is on the list. im just not reading whole, otherwise this video would be +/-15 min in length.
@@captaincrapface7337 Ic
Sad but true bro, warrior needs a rework for many weapon abilities and trait lines.
Trait lines primarly, they drag weapons down most of the time.
For example, if you want to play power zerker now you might take sword-axe and Greatsword. Defense-Discipline-Berserker is best build right now, which means you have to deal with longer cooldowns on GS and sword mainhand becouse Strenth is risky to play and Arms is plain griefing.
removing all CD traits would be a significant QoL improvement to warrior as a whole.
@@captaincrapface7337 Fair enough, appreciate the answer. Thinking back to you last Vid about Maces though I can’t help but feel that at least the AA needs to be significantly changed to make it worthwhile. Same for Torch OH in my opinion. GS 2 is also kinda LOL in my opinion for rooting the player in place.
@@preytorben "Hundred Bades" does suffer a lot from being rooted, and so did "Flurry". The fact that they removed self-root from "Flurry" and removed self-slow from "Whirling Wrath" (bad idea) fills me with hope for "Hundred Blades" in the future. It could allow movement at 50% future.
@@captaincrapface7337 if you compare HB with Whirling Wrath, it's just sad skill
@@Oneiromant Yes it is, but you see Wirling Wrath is on Guardian and therefore it needs buffs of course.
only bad weapons on warrior is offhand sword mainhand mace , torch somewhat unless you use arms and diel wielding im your viper build. everything else rips, hammer is the new meta . corewarrior is infinitely better, discipline is kinda uneccessary now with , Hambow is still opd. it all went downhill with HoT torch, 1 offhand weapon is a fucking insult since torch blows. how can offhand be acceptable with poor condi application Anet is fuc king combat braindead
0 new weapons into the game.
thief staff daredevil is unstoppable now, or with sceptor mainhand...oldxwespons still need attention