How far can you drive with no gearbox oil?
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- We drain and fully clean a Lada gearbox to see how far you can go when the transmission is completely dry inside. The result - further than you might expect.
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How far can you drive with no gearbox oil? - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Now it is time to fill the engine with antifreeze, fill the cooling system with engine oil, automatic transmission fluid in the brake system, and lastly brake fluid in the auto trans! Let's see how long what lasts then. Lol
gearbox and brakes would hold for very long, until sealing goes bad because of wrong oil.
It'll shift rough, blow a ton of steam out the exhaust, and eventually the coolant will boil away if the engine doesn't seize first. That'd be perfect for this channel.
I'm aware of what will happen lol, I just think it would be cool to watch regardless lol.
project farm has entered the chat
And petrol in the diff maybe
Translator, if you're out there reading this, we love you.
@freezeme360 oh no...
@freezeme360 haha
+Swap Blog RU ok
"It seems to be making a new noise" - story of my life with my car. 😁
Then fucking repair it!
@@gth77s Well then, shall I give you my account number? Then just fucking send the money.
I used to hear screaming noises when driving too fast . Fixed it don't drive with the wife in the car
@@techalyzer hahaha savage
@@MultiSquirty I hear screaming noises from shit cars driving in my city loud screeching noises like metal rubbing noises then again people also tend to have there wheels fall off could they be related?
8:08 oy oy oy oy oy, translation: "now you can really hear it"
Hahahaha
Laugh Out Loud
7:57 Aussie Aussie Aussie
lol
This Lada actually looks good
It's a classic!
I've got the export verson (21011) :D
@@fishywishyfishfisk Nice! I've got a 21013 :D.
Looks like an earlier one nice
They sell for alot in the states like most other foreign cars
Man that lada is a classic must be early 70’s
Anyone know what such a car would be worth in the US?
@@TheAsheybabe89 From 10 to 20 grand. Most of them have a low mileage and are in pristine condition.
In Russia and probably all over Eastern Europe they cost 10 times less, but in a rougher condition.
In this condition as in the video you can get it for probably less than 500 USD in Russia.
Indeed it's the 2101 with the 1.2 L 64hp (1970-1983)
The other models are known as:
21011 (Lada 1300) 1.3 L 69hp (1974-1983)
21013 (Lada 1200s) 1.2 L 64hp (1977-1988)
As far as I know the only way you can distinguish the 2101 from the 21011/21013 is:
* on 2101 the bumpers have fangs
* the reversing light is placed under the bumper, instead on 21011/21013 it's placed under the right tailight
* on 2101 there are no grilles on the pillars
* on 2101 the reflectors are placed under the tailights, instead on 21011/21013 they're placed on top of them
* on 2101 the emblem on the front grille is more rounder than the 21011/21013 which is more rectangular
* on 2101 the steering wheel has chrome rings, but in this video the steering wheel was probably taken from 21011/21013.
* after 1974 the warning lights on the dashboard became wider on 2101 and after 1979 the color of the speedometer panel became black instead of silver.
on 2:30 the dashboard can be seen for a part of a second
@@jimmy1395 Here, in Ukraine they start from 100 bucks
"in 2020 WE will have flying cars"
2020: it moves in neutral
uncontrollable over steer that's some good stuff🤣
Impressive. Dodge transmissions wont even last that long WITH fluid...
How long is that long? They typically don’t last over the first few miles...
That's so true since I've been the second owner to an 87 dodge ram d100 with an A904 3 speed auto. My grandfather and I rebuilt the transmission and made modifications just so the fluid could get to the torque converter hub in Park since that was its main issue from the factory. It has a slant 6 225 which is amazing and runs like brand new after we cleaned and replaced vital parts on that and I painted it red and black
lol that's funny. but, the weight of a dodge is prob 3x the weight of the lada "lawnmower"... lol All that extra weight will create more friction and destroy an engine or transmission quicker without oil...
somehow my all original 04 ram 5.7l auto with 290k miles keeps on trucking
@@alex_share92 In the same way that some people live past 110. It happens, but not often.
"uncontrollable oversteer".. the kid seemed to do just fine with it!
It's control able if you know how to countersteer
Drift is nothing but a controlled oversteer. The rear end squids in an oversteer while the front wheels counter the movement, making the car slide.
I’d estimate 25 miles, had no oil in a Citroen c2 gearbox after a massive burnout put a hole in the bottom of it and it survived about that far before completely dying 😂
I didn't realise you needed gear box oil LOL
@@pointlesswarrior1168 did you know that differential needs oil eather
Pretty much any metal-on-metal piece of machinery needs oil or grease, otherwise the components will wear against each other.
@@normang3668 Ohh ok
@Robert Burley I estimate 2 miles
while seeing this video and oil ad just popped up XD
Ad? How the hell do you get ads???
Ironic
#premium
I got one for a chairlift. 😑
Given the age of the Lada...the old using your dipstick Jimmy ad.
For Russia, "Use your dipstick, Sergei!!!"
Next time no Oil🛢 in the Differential?
That is impressive!
Under "normal oil leak conditions" with the lid on the gearbox and some oil film left in the gears, I bet this thing would drive for hundreds of kilometers with normal driving.
Over 40 kilometers in a driftrace scenario with no oil in the thing is just astonishing!
imagine on the open road?🤣
My first car a Fiat with the 900cc Fiat 100 engine ripped its cv axle boot 500km from home and lost all its gear oil.
I drove home like that as that car was barely worth the fuel in the tank.
Fixed the boot and it worked just fine.
Ok it was as loud as an old street car search for Munich tram p-wagen and you'll hear almost the exact sound it made. Still it worked until it ended up on the scrapyard due to rust
@@no-damn-alias 😂
Hi guys! Loving the channel!
Dean here from Johannesburg, South Africa!
2 things that you can maybe try sometime...
1 - Fill the engine right to the top with oil and run it, let's see what happens. I was always told to ALWAYS fill the oil to the right mark or it might explode if you over fill it... So give it a try.
2- Same as above, but with the gearbox all the way full...
Those Ladas sure are strong!
I think Mighty Car Mods already did the engine oil thing.
Garage 54 have filled an engine with oil th-cam.com/video/Yoe5nrqVdeo/w-d-xo.html
@@jmc642 You just linked to the same video above....????
@@DeanosRides th-cam.com/video/j2yjR6Rteoo/w-d-xo.html Here is the actual video
@@DeanosRides Sorry my bad - I can't even copy the right URL. Somebody else has though.
Without watching the video I can say for a fact that a 1994 land rover discovery r380 gearbox can run exactly 14 miles with no oil. Dont ask how i know.
@freezeme360 94 probe, nearly a month
Toyota Sienna - 5 miles
92' Acura Integra: 1/2 a mile 😒
How do you know?
@freezeme360 it was a joke dipstick,he said dont ask how i know
Heavy understeer followed by uncontrollable oversteer, I want a Lada so bad, the handling on those things are epic 😂😂
wreckreational activities...
14:00 sounds like a Geiger counter going through chernobyl xDd
Hhhhhhhhhhh
the open and filmed gearbox is brilliant! my visa before👍
Love you guys, you are effing nuts.Simple engineering is best, Ladas are fantastic. Not sophisticated but true work horses. Keep up the good work. Peace from UK.
hey anything that is fun is good youtube content man
I have a crazy idea. You guys should find a company to sponsor a 24 hrs of Lemons Lada and bring it to the US and run an event. Sure it would be expensive, but the publicity for the right company would be huge. Maybe the Russian Air Force would donate a cargo plane on a friendship and goodwill mission. Ya I know crazy but the video would get millions of views. There would also be additional publicity as every Lemons race gets uploaded by multiple channels. And a Lemons car is your kind of car. You guys are naturals!
It s not Lemons, it s called Le Mans. Named after the french city of Le Mans and nothing to do with fruits
@@Boss_Tanaka It is Lemons look it up. It's a US racing series where you must prove you have less than 500 dollars in the car. Not including wheels, tires, brakes, and safety equipment. Do you really think I believe Garage54 could build a Le Mans car???! The 24hrs of Lemons is right down their ally. WOW!
My bad!
I checked and you re totally right. The Lemons race is a real thing l didnt know. And it s a little about fruits , its logo is a lemon !
I live near Le Mans and l m a 24 hrs of Le Mans fan. I go there every year except for 2020 because of pandemic situation.
Sorry l tried to correct you. I d like to see your brillant idea come true though, it would be fun
@@Boss_Tanaka No harm no foul. I was in the USAF in England in the 80s and bought tickets to Le Mans. I missed my bus and with 80 pounds in my pockets tried to hitch hike all the way to Le Mans. I ran out of money in Paris. It was the worst weekend of my life and the best weekend of my life. And a beautiful French lady who ran the USO in Paris saved me from big trouble with the Air Force by getting me an advance on my pay so I could get back to England. I loved your country and returned 2 more times.
The gearbox whine remind me of the old British Austin Metro gearboxes
reminds me of my electric bike with straight cut gears.
Reminds me of the reliant robins
Thats cause the gears on those where straight gears. These slanted gears whine less than straight cut gears.
I love watching this channel, I love watching all the fun things these guys do, I'm so glad they found a way to translate everything. I would truly love to meet these guys ... I think that would be a blast!
what was that?
I love it pure entertainment🤣
one of these things lasted 40km without trans fluid these things are dead reliable best car for drifing requires little to no maintaince
Oh man, the noises, the metal shavings, the grindage, its just not happy lol poor ol lada :(
Fill it with a quality oil and see if it comes back to life
Great idea !!!!
It wouldn't work if the gears are stripped from the heat and friction if the bairings collapse a bottle of oil isn't gonna fix it but good idea though probably a thicker oil would help get you home but I wouldn't recommend driving like that for long
the internal shift bearing is mechanically destroyed. it can however be rebuilt and ran no problem, the gears look decent enough
when the camera showed the gearbox you could see the parts are flying away :D Oil wont fix that lol
It might fix parts sticking, but it won't fix anything broken like the syncros
Fiat gearbox designs from which the Lada one is based are outstanding. The original 124 gearbox on my 52 year old 124 Coupe remains the best I've ever driven, short, precise throws. Far better than on the new Japanese car I own, light years ahead of any US manufacturer manual gearbox I've driven. Pretty amazing really.
I tell you what you guys have some fantastic engineers. Wow old tech is sometimes good tech. Thanks
You guys are really making me want to research importing a Lada to the US
i accidently did that before ... i engine swapped a bmw e46 316i with a e46 318 And i forgot that the previus engine owner of the 318 engine drained every liquid .... even the gearbox oil Soooooooo after swaping it i was eager to drive it and after 5 km it startet to whistle from the bearings and i actually made it home to fill up the oil and it worked for another 9000 km before the berings where shot
316 to a 318? why not go the proper way and slam a M52/54
@@MiGujack3 simplicity and actually knowing ones personal skills?
@@jesperviktorsson8027 It's not like he's swapping a motor from a different manufacturer. I don't see a good reason to do that except mpg or to be stealthy in inspections.
@@MiGujack3 Probably because n40>n42 is bolt on, while 6 cylinder is not and it needs more work to be done.
@@darenzy ya are right with that its a easy bolt on :) and yea its was a 600 euro shitbox sooooo After the first engine developed a engine knock i decided to change it because it was not worth fixing. and a good reason why the 318 was swapped into it it was easy to attach and it also had the same gearbox mount as the 316i So it was easy to slab that gearbox back on from the 316i on the 318 engine and use the old 316i engine controler sooo We edited the sofware a little to give the 318 enough fuel and just send it. Opened up the block drilled out the valves inlets a little bit reseated them engine tuned the whole thing a little cleaned it chucked it back inside and then we just send it. A bmw 316i e46 with the block of a tuned 318 e46 and a 316i gearbox so all the ratios was layed out for far less horsepower .. so yea i managed to get past every mot here in germany and never got cought even tho i had now a top speed of 240 kmh and instead of 110 hp we dyno ran it at a 190 with the modified software and new top end. Best secret mod car i have ever done and nobody has ever found out about it until it got scrapped
damn they build them strong. would be interesting to repeat the test with the final drive drained of oil to see which stops you driving first. great videos and best wishes from england
Hi from Nova Scotia Canada, very interesting. thanks for sharing!!!
Those Lada where Tuff as Hell but where not economic on gas, my father use to have a brand new one 1984 Lada, Signet was starting first engine turn at -35C but where Tuff to start when hot lolll. The cluster was really cool, old dial gauges, RPM. Thanks for sharing ! 👍👍👍👌👌👌🇨🇦
that lada looks very old but nice... the interior looked like new, the headliner and so...
i've been waiting for this video. nice!
Thank you for utilising my phone screen with your ratio! No zoom required!
I wonder what the Russian word for "notchiness" is?
3:31 I know what the Russian word for understeer is: "understeer"!
That's actually a rare occasion, usually we say 'snos'
A long damn ways in a Ford Ranger.
A few years ago I bought a Ranger that would pop out of fifth, Never cared much it was a beater and 5th was useless anyway.
Drove it every day to work 35 miles one way for a few months. Decided to go see a girl I was talking to online, Going to drive from Asheville NC to Lynchburg VA so did an engine oil change and while I had it on a lift I saw the underside of the 5 speed was bone dry, no signs of any leaks.. Made it to Roanoke VA when the trans decided to lock down. When I got it home and took the trans apart it was bone dry inside and out and the teeth of the gears had grenaded. I was amazed it lasted so long. Unlike the long distance relationship that ended that day lmao.
Heyyy there fellas!
Hello there
For being an older LADA that car is really clean! good headliner. Interior is mint! Paints not bad. Polish it and straighten out some panels. Replace the transmission. SHOW CAR.
great vids man keep it up🌵
I personally drove a fiat ducato for work (about from 1990), we lost all the oil due to a leak, and drove all the day approx. 150 km with no oil in the gearbox (of course we didn't know).. only when we started to ear noise we realized that.. and we returned to the base anyway.. the gearbox was wining like a concrete mixer at full load!! Pooor little gearbox!!
A 2001 GMC Yukon XL will idle and move in forward and reverse for 10 minute with no automatic transmission fluid, and 12 quarts of engine oil, (normally 6qt)...my brother drained the wrong plug. Was fine after, no issue
nice work 😂👍👍👍 a im you fan and i like lada 👍 and hi for finland 🇫🇴🇫🇴🇫🇴
You actually makes me wanna buy a Lada
I Love the sound of a high revving engine
You guys still surprise me on the nutty things u do but I do pass on to a group of friend's vf101 game playing buddies
I think i want a lada...
Deep Engineering: They actually have superior build quality. Duplex timing chain not a timing belt...this is just the beginning the more you delve the more delight you find...case hardened components like valves, heat-treated springs, metal clips and tabs...we use plastic wherever we can in the west. Lada does too, to be fair but not as much. I actually had a list naming 101 far superior items in a Russian Lada than a Western Ford Mondeo. BTW, I drive a South Korean KIA Optima 3, ISG 1.7TD. It has superior deep engineering, western cars have a thing called "kerbside beauty" meaning they look fabulous from the kerbside but the deep engineering is shit. A Russian built Lada has no kerbside beauty but has superior deep engineering. You dig?
@@TheGeezzer most cars made in Russia and Eatern Europe had to be overbuilt to deal with environmental conditions and poverty. But the truly baller vehicles are the trucks. The Paris-Dakar race trucks are legendary....add guns and bombs and they are milittary weapons.
You better do it soon. This channel is destroying them at an alarming rate
@@hoost3056 You're a smart guy! Its your gene pool, the genetics, makes you a smart guy you see. You're correct with what you say. Yes, of course when we think about it....Russia, ostensibly a vast vast icy, harsh wilderness with roads, long hard roads. Not all of em fully metalled but just cut out of the sod and steppes, the plains and drifts with a single pass. Indeed a Lada would need to be built tough, hence that duplex timing chain...just for starters...
You should buy one then, they're honestly pretty wounderful cars and if you take care of it you've got a car that's gonna last your entire lifetime
Damn, 22.24 miles with absolutely NO gearbox oil? That's actually kind of remarkable. I wouldn't have thought that it would've lasted that long...then Ivan drove it more. Crazy.
Makes me sad seeing old Ladas get ruined like this
in the late 90's my buddy had a beater '86 Jetta with a 5spd. he had it for about 5 years and near the end he had to have the steering rack replaced because it was worn out. During the repair, the mechanic asked him a funny question... "Does your 5th gear pop out on the highway". My buddy said yup, but it was doing it since I got the car about 5 years ago. The mechanic said to him, do you know you've been driving without any oil in your gearbox, because your axle seals are shot, and the 5th gear popping out is a tell-tale symptom. The mechanic replaced the seals and filled the gearbox with oil, and my buddy drove the car for another year without issue until it was wrecked in an accident.
Moral of the story? Who knows how many kilometers were done without oil in the gearbox, my fried put about 60,000km on it before the axle seals were fixed. VW made some good stuff in the 80's.
Damn I love these guys 👍👍👍
I live in United States. I would love to have a Lada car exactly like that. It would be my daily driver
wow it actually hardened itself to be stronger, well I guess those lada where build like a tank
that yellow suv thing at the start is sweet
omg I just been thinking about it, you read my mind!
I had an '84 Chevrolet Camaro 5 speed and the bearing that connects the front and tail shafts seized and It drove fine as long as you pushed in the clutch.
blue steel, around 600 celsius... so now you have a de-hardened gearbox. Should have dropped the box in oil directly after running, then re-hardened gearboxparts haha!
Nice one guys, that's one was funny and really interesting
Love the content!
the blue hue of steel appears around 300-350°C; dark blue a little less, near 260-280°C (that's on hardened steel; color is used as a visual reference guide when forging steel and "tempering" it after hardening. Varies a bit with different alloys)
I drove around on an empty gear box for 3 years. I had a tranny rebuilt in a shop. They never even put any oil in it before reinstalling it. I always thought I was just bad at shifting gears. When it finally failed, I opened the cover on it and it was full of shavings, not one drop of oil, no sludge, just rainbow colored shavings and really messed up gears. This was in a 1966 Ford F-250, had the granny low tranny. Drove probably about 50,000-70,000 miles with no oil in the gear box.
I had it happen where in 1999 I had the stick shift transmission on my Chevy serviced and I didn't realize it until years later. The shop used the wrong lubricant and it all boiled dry. The transmission began making whirring and whining noises. After having another shop replace the lubricant I put this stuff called X treme Friction Fighter in. It quieted the transmission but a few years later, the transmission failed and had to be replaced. This was interesting because I see an illustration of possibly how the transmission in my Chevy might have failed if I had done nothing.
Sooo good! Oi! (Crunch) Oi! (Graaack!) Oiyoiyoiyoiyoi-yoi! 🤣
I have a suggestion for an experiment. It will primarily be a test of the viability of the Lada clutch.
Procedure:
• put test car into its highest gear
• attempt to burn rubber (or to even get the car to move out of its own shadow)
Prediction:
unhappy clutch as evidenced by acrid odor emanating from the "clutch region"
Extensions:
• repeat experiment with a Volga
• repeat experiment with a Zaporozhets 968
• repeat experiment with a BMW
• repeat experiment with a Camry
great test
Here in Brazil people love the Lada Niva.
It is a great car.
Another win for lada almost indestructible. The best built car in the world.
You guys are so rad!
I suggest we call this the "24 hours of Novosibirsk" :)
I split my probes trans at the dragstrip and it survived that pass, and still drove me to work and back that week. 5th gear whined but other than that it wouldve went months
Holly fuck, I definitely need that trany on my truck, man it's crazy the huge resistance it has damn it boy!
That's quite impressive! You should do va test on how much power you can put through one 😁
what was that noise?🤣
I love this stuff it's fun to watch🤣
it feels like I am watching looney tunes🤣
Meanwhile im sitting here trying to rebuild my lada 😅
Which model do you have?
@@fishywishyfishfisk 1975 Lada 2101 - 1200s😊
@PotatoPlayer Made in China. hahaha, its gonna be ready next summer. Hopefully im still Alive 😄
Nice :)
@@landmonkey22 you doing good?
Nobody:
Garage54 to Lada: I can milk you.
Hey guys huge fan of the channel
Would love to see what would happen to an automatic transmission under the same conditions!
It wouldnt move at all, in automatic transmissions, the transmission fluid is actually what makes the car move. Without it, the car just wont move at all.
I think it could last even longer if you kept driving at the same gear (i believe the 4th gear is a 1 to 1 ratio, it doesn't use the intermediate shaft)
oh it's coming from the box you can take it from here🤣
I had a mainshaft bearing grenade in a Hyundai Pony (weaker 5spd box - car was used for towing too) - First gear would rocket out and and make this bell-ringing sound, then I lost 2nd, and when I lost 4th I knew the box was dead. I replaced it and took the old trans apart - upon removing the cover plate, 3 bearings and parts of the bearing housing greeted me.
Fill the gearbox full of oil and drive it again. I would like to see if it is still good. 👍
I LOVE THE VIDEO
I have driven over 120km without oil in gearbox because of fast leak. At the end it was one laud squeak :) Finally machanic reanimated my gearbox, but synchronizer at 3rd gear got stuck.
@garage54 I’d love to see a “DIY electric Lada” 👍
Drain everywhere in the car that usually takes oil and refill with dishwashing liquid! Hair shampoo in the radiator might be fun.
With that cool soviet building in the background I can only assume that open paved area was for marches, now they just use it for killing old ladas
Reminds me of my ranger, it only leaked when running. Then it welded the input shaft to the housing.
Very high quality gearbox
This gearbox ate its own guts, blew chunks out, and kept going.
I low key want a Lada in that body style now
I have heard that in older cars they had sawdust in the gearbox together with the oil so the gearbox would be quiet
Early form of oil additives
Add sawdust just before selling it was an old trick.
Whoever the crazy gopnik is who took over driving first and comments about input shaft, you need to feature him more, he's got personality ! ))
What a great old building behind you. What was it? You should do an abandoned building video.
My dad has a Lada 2106 in pristine condition. It's in Armenia, so he never drives it because we are in the U.S. It's in pristine condition and it is beautiful in my opinion, however, there are bunch of them. Most of them are used for work and surprisingly they are still on the road till this day. I'm trying to convince my dad so that he can import it here ( I have to say they are not safe at all...)
I was this close to say they should make more transmissions like this for modern cars! Cause I thought that synchronizer was going to last longer than that shaft.
"It stopped doing that - I must have broken it in" - every person who continues driving
And on the flip side if you stare at an automatic transmission wrong it will break. I love manuals! Plus its an added security feature
Looks like you guys had some fun making that video though
It would be interesting to see them put fresh gear oil back in the transmission and see how it drives after that thrashing.
I'm surprised it lasted that long. That noise would make me crap myself. I never had a transmission go out on me, but once had a car where a Piston connecting rod broke and piston went through the Valve cover and dented the inside of the hood.
i did about 50 km in ford focus mk2 st ^^
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