Messy is the perfect word. I was left wishing it was combat focused like 16 because I started hating everything outside the combat. Ton of mini games I never want to see again
i share the same sentiment as you on the story - fine with 2 or even 3 worlds/timelines but once they made it seem like there are countless of them, I start to not care so much about what's happened because there is always a possibility of something else happening at another world that we are not aware of. So this makes major events like deaths not significant anymore. I am also not a fan of so many mini games and having them all locked behind strong accessories from crafting, they require too much time commitment to practise and get good with them. I have done all the green sidequests (except the party animal) and all the map explorations, just going to do a 2nd playthrough on hard mode and move on to other games. Game is 10/10 up till the last 15%, sitting at 8.5/10 for me now
The game is a mess. Exuberant amount of mini games, padding, a huge open world but at tue same time it feels so meaningless. What is even the point? Maps not incorporated into the story at all, stick with the main quest and you explore maybe 15%. Narratively, the game borders in disastrous. They had a great storyline and failed to properly hit the emotional beats and on top, convoluted it to hell. That being said, it has been over 20 years since Square released a game with this level of ambition and scope. Combat is exactly like the rest of the game, fun but messy. I really like the "blueprint" they uncovered though. Enormous scope, with huge explorable zones. Wide variety of gameplay. Action combat with strategic elements. They just need to continue to refine this blueprint
I certainly echo some of your points, in particular the inconsistent dodge. Definitely the erratic tone, though it spends most of its time being garish and gaudy. Lastly, I felt remake as well as rebirth is guilty of dismantling the mystique of Sephiroth.
Characters are amazing. NPCs though are distracting from the fantasy world. More like Sims or tourists from a multiculti western city that visit disney land. Even in a small rural mountain oldtown like Nifelheim..... but well, everything has to bee diverse everywhere.
Y'all definitely can't get over the fact that ppl can have differenr ethnicities...even in a fantasy game, that's crazy, what kind of ppl would be complaning abt "diversity" in a npc village?💀
Thank GOD someone besides me said the TRUTH! This games open world does feel like an ubisoft spinoff and it sucks, no clue what other people see in this garbage.
Spoilers: I honestly thought they did the Dyne scene perfectly imo. The dude HAS completely lost it and it seemed totally in character to act the way he did. Also Barrett’s VA went so hard in that scene.
Dude I agree with you on so many things. But my major complaint is DODGING and I'm so glad I'm not the only one! Its literally a just there as a damn cosmetic! There are attacks you can't block and dodging is your only option... and it just straight up doesn't work.....
So many of the minigames was amazing ? The Goldeb Saucer had so many amazing games to the fighter one the robot gambit one also the revamped Fort Condor ... actually all the minigames in Gold Saucer were goated but you like the piano one that's not even a minigame it's basically press a button at a certain time lmao
The mistake Square did was to split this game into 3 parts in the span of so many years - Remake was in 2020, Rebirth in 2024 and the next will probably be in 2027 or 2028 and trust me, by then the hype - what's left of it will be dead gone. Instead of making one big game on 2-3 blurays without altering the story with this multiverse nonsense they went on trying to milk this title as much as possible, add as much filler content to keep player "engaged". No wonder it tanks in sales as a sequel. When Remake was announced we all thought we're gonna get the full game but then Square said : but wait... there's more.
Complaining about 5 sec. animations is like complaining that you have to turn off your car, get out and shut the door every time. I know it's a game, but having some reality based animations is a good thing, not a bad thing. The mini-games can throw you off if you're not a fan. I'm a fan of the mini-games, so I didn't mind the challenge with the boxes, or Tifa's sit-ups, or even the frogs. I found them humorous and fun. Part of my experience though goes back to nostalgia with the original game 25years ago. I want to soak up every inch of this game. I'm loving it.
Disagree about the reality based animations especially for a jrpg, but definitely agree about this game being for die hard fans of OG FF7. I LIKE OG FF7 but don't LOVE it. If a remake like this were to happen for FF6 or 9 I would be all over it though.
Buggy animation didn't bother me but the ungodly amount of times that dumbass AI and chadley interrupt you to say the most pointless and obvious things ever legitimately ruin the pacing of the game. I swear to god i hate that stupid character so much right now and i bet it will be even worse in Part 3 since the japanese audience apparently loves MAI.. of course right.
@@DankinTwitch No you wouldn't be happy if they remade ff6 or ff9 they would just add the multiverse story telling to those as well and have them so convoluted just like this one. I hope they don't remake those games I don't want anymore remakes from squarenix.
@@crossroads8370the multiverse thing is fine y’all just love to complain. It doesn’t change the main story, it’s a way to tell the story in a different way, what’s to cry about? You can still play the og game matter of fact I bought it last night for $15.99 on my ps5. Useless complaining a multiverse, as a fan you should be glad they are doing this n not just retconning the OG story.
In what world does this game force Aerith on you, it is clear the Tifa is the canon relationship with Cloud in this game, her date is the only one that ends in a kiss.
For all of chapter 14 it’s like Aerith and Cloud are being forced together. Don’t know if this is because the Zach stuff or what. Im trying to figure what’s even going on. But Aerith is definitely seeming to date cloud at the end
I'm actually struggling to finish this game...by Junon I was born of the game and it's repetitiveness and it's constant progression blocked by minigames.. By the time I got to Cosmo Canyon I didn't even really want to play anymore. I am literally dragging my feet to finish playing this cash grab of a game
Do you know the definition of a cash grab ??? There is so much effort here it's crazy.... also if you do NO side quests you're getting through this game in like 30 hours so wtf are you even talking about lmfaoo 😂😂😂
It is kind of a cash grab given that they had all the time in the world to make useless mini games, instead of this they could've just actually finished the whole story. Idk who enjoyed playing mini games like cactuar crush, 3d brawler or that annoying fort condor games
Graphically it’s awful. It can’t sustain a hd resolution, there is numerous texture pop in, terrible lighting, different high res models for different cutscenes, a trick ffx did 23 years ago. In many ways it looks like a cross between a ps3/ps4 game. I don’t think it looks any better than final fantasy xv. For a PlayStation 5 game there is little to no improvement over Remake, in many ways it looks worse. At least Remake could sustain a hd resolution. And only had a few places, like wall market and slums with ps3 npc’s and poor textures, The ps3 looking towns, illegible text, npc’s all add up to make Rebirth look really dated in my opinion.
Sephiroth is just so overused compared to the OG version can’t even take him serious anymore you can’t use Vincent or cid battles taking too long minigames are annoying
Well it kinda makes sense. He is from the future. In og he barely did anything until the end, and he failed. So of course he will be more active and engage with people more. Hell the first time we see him in remake he tries to make aerith and cloud not even meet. Makes sense.
@@Moneybill01 yup, multiple times. again, this is not a 1 to 1 ratio of the original. its a sequel. if you understand that, its easy to understand why seph is so active this time. even his overall goal is different than OG. you know that right?
@Moneybill01 nah so the sales in Japan are low because the game catered to the west too much. The game ended up being second most sold on Playstation, next to helldivers. The numbers are also only to physical sales, not digital which we may never get unless square talks. But yeah, game is obviously geared more towards western audience, which the east hates. We gotta wait to see digital sales though to see if it's a true success or not so much. Could be another ff16 situation where sales end up fine, but not amazing. Time will tell
The countless, bullshit and largely unfair mini-games nearly made me rage quit completely. So much unneeded bloat and filler, and almost all of them are straight trash and a chore to get through. I hated Queen's Blood at first but the more I got used to it and started winning better cards, I actually really enjoy it. Other than the piano mini game, ALL of the others suck ass and need to die.
I love the game ending.i think the ending is better than the original ending because that ending didn't make Sense either if you thought about it. I would complain about the tone swifts in this game but because i played the original last month, i cant complain too much because that game tone was all over the place too
The combat and Queen's Blood are the only 2 fun parts about Rebirth. Everything else was ungodly cringe and boring, just like Remake. Your criticisms are on point. I just want to add: - In Rebirth, you still need to stop and watch the whole slow sword animation when you break crates. - Limit breaks / a lot of moves also missed a lot in Remake, so they're still broken.
you can dodge cancel the sword animation if it really bothers you so much, but saying everything else was cringe and boring is insane, it’s your opinion but you are the very small minority of players who didn’t enjoy the game thoroughly
The original FF7 is my favorite game of all time. I literally just replayed it. It's completely different from the remake series, so I don't know what your comment was implying.
I kind of agree, although I will add that there were some scenes which were very well written character moments. In a vacuum many scenes worked well. Overall the story is a mess though, unfortunately.
Agreed on evrything you said ! thx , all streamer/youtuber only praise but the ending is sooo horrible, n oemotion. Too many mini-games, ubisoft like opne world was not necessary aswell. It could have been a legendary above the original legend but it's not. The gmae stil l good tho but not that good...
play ff7, aerith one of the main cast besides cloud and sephiroth, doesn't like aerith very much, feels like she is being forced on you too much, the game literally is about her and cloud saving the planet from meteor...
The original forced Aerith on Cloud. That’s how I felt as a kid when I played. And I never really liked her character, to be honest. I liked her in Remake and I like her in Rebirth.
@@vladik87not hate but she's the main character of the story (whilr Cloud is the main character of the game) you can feel like she's "forced" to you whatever but somehow she's the plot
Spoilers: This game is a sequel. The timeline sephiroth with the whispers is the sephiroth from og ff7. Also yuffie is just a zoomer influencer, and it's fucking annoying.
Tone down the minigames, improve traversal, remove half of the pointless open world collectibles like towers and crystals.. we don't need that, remove completely Queen's Blood from the game like entirely and the game would be a 8-9 for me.
@@BarfDrinker420If you liked that shit you can go play Far Cry, Assassin's Creed or a card game. FF should be mainly about combat and the few minigames the og had like chocobo races, G bike, arena etc which are awesome.
@@Kumire_921 so we can't expand anything? We gotta keep things the exact same? Got it. Also, Rebirth does exploration better than any Ubisoft game. These comparisons are pretty dumb. Also, here's a tip, and this may be really difficult so try to understand: you can actually skip the minigames AND the open world collectables. I know, crazy
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Padding in this game is ridiculous
Lol the super abundance of mini games. Let's make combat so fun but let's make more mini games than actually fighting
They turned an iconic villain into an obsessed ex-boyfriend the whole game, appearing randomly and whispering the exact same lines to Cloud.
In the words of Zack, " What the hell is happening here!"
Kingdom hearting the game 😢
See that’s where I come in, I’m just happy to be along for the ride.
Messy is the perfect word. I was left wishing it was combat focused like 16 because I started hating everything outside the combat. Ton of mini games I never want to see again
3:34 The dragon clipping it's own head through it's body to hit you is some next level tracking bullshit lol
This is the most accurate review to this game I’ve seen
Couldn't even edge to this... exploded immediately!!
Oh
Where you failed, I succeeded
i share the same sentiment as you on the story - fine with 2 or even 3 worlds/timelines but once they made it seem like there are countless of them, I start to not care so much about what's happened because there is always a possibility of something else happening at another world that we are not aware of. So this makes major events like deaths not significant anymore. I am also not a fan of so many mini games and having them all locked behind strong accessories from crafting, they require too much time commitment to practise and get good with them. I have done all the green sidequests (except the party animal) and all the map explorations, just going to do a 2nd playthrough on hard mode and move on to other games. Game is 10/10 up till the last 15%, sitting at 8.5/10 for me now
I never used dodge, I just put the steadfast materia on mostly everyone, rewards you for blocking and timing blocking hits.
Damn, that dragon was ON YOU😂
The game is a mess. Exuberant amount of mini games, padding, a huge open world but at tue same time it feels so meaningless. What is even the point? Maps not incorporated into the story at all, stick with the main quest and you explore maybe 15%. Narratively, the game borders in disastrous. They had a great storyline and failed to properly hit the emotional beats and on top, convoluted it to hell.
That being said, it has been over 20 years since Square released a game with this level of ambition and scope. Combat is exactly like the rest of the game, fun but messy.
I really like the "blueprint" they uncovered though. Enormous scope, with huge explorable zones. Wide variety of gameplay. Action combat with strategic elements. They just need to continue to refine this blueprint
I certainly echo some of your points, in particular the inconsistent dodge.
Definitely the erratic tone, though it spends most of its time being garish and gaudy.
Lastly, I felt remake as well as rebirth is guilty of dismantling the mystique of Sephiroth.
I felt like cloud combat was kinda better in remake than in rebirth
Characters are amazing. NPCs though are distracting from the fantasy world. More like Sims or tourists from a multiculti western city that visit disney land. Even in a small rural mountain oldtown like Nifelheim..... but well, everything has to bee diverse everywhere.
Y'all definitely can't get over the fact that ppl can have differenr ethnicities...even in a fantasy game, that's crazy, what kind of ppl would be complaning abt "diversity" in a npc village?💀
Thank GOD someone besides me said the TRUTH! This games open world does feel like an ubisoft spinoff and it sucks, no clue what other people see in this garbage.
Gimme back Remake Punisher Mode. That combo string was goated
Spoilers:
I honestly thought they did the Dyne scene perfectly imo. The dude HAS completely lost it and it seemed totally in character to act the way he did. Also Barrett’s VA went so hard in that scene.
This game is unreal!!! I cannot believe this got made!!!
This is the dumb thing I’m about to say but I wish it had dmc combo like attack
You're a funny guy, even though you sound serious. 😂 Absolutely hilarious review.
good critique without being a smug asshole. some of these youtube guys should learn from this 👍
I thought the game was fine, the ending kinda threw me off, but I enjoyed the game for the most part.
Thanks John Grapplehook, very cool vid
Excellent review. Objective honesty.
it's riddled with opinions. i mean i get it's honest, but objective? game is great to me anyeway
@@nunya3399 but scientifically accurate opinions
Sorry but i loved nearly all miniganes.
Game is a 6. Square doesnt deserve our money. Music and graphics dont make things great
Dude I agree with you on so many things. But my major complaint is DODGING and I'm so glad I'm not the only one! Its literally a just there as a damn cosmetic! There are attacks you can't block and dodging is your only option... and it just straight up doesn't work.....
So many of the minigames was amazing ? The Goldeb Saucer had so many amazing games to the fighter one the robot gambit one also the revamped Fort Condor ... actually all the minigames in Gold Saucer were goated but you like the piano one that's not even a minigame it's basically press a button at a certain time lmao
scoots sent me here
Why do people complain about mini games you don't play them
I'm still salty that they didn't have the roller coaster in the gold saucer in the speed square. I got discount Gummi ship from Kingdom Hearts.
The mistake Square did was to split this game into 3 parts in the span of so many years - Remake was in 2020, Rebirth in 2024 and the next will probably be in 2027 or 2028 and trust me, by then the hype - what's left of it will be dead gone. Instead of making one big game on 2-3 blurays without altering the story with this multiverse nonsense they went on trying to milk this title as much as possible, add as much filler content to keep player "engaged". No wonder it tanks in sales as a sequel.
When Remake was announced we all thought we're gonna get the full game but then Square said : but wait... there's more.
Yeah, if this was more polished and part of a full 1-1 remake. It would be selling gangbusters
This game as a completionist is one of the worst due to the repetitive world intel, cheap minigames/vr challenges
Complaining about 5 sec. animations is like complaining that you have to turn off your car, get out and shut the door every time. I know it's a game, but having some reality based animations is a good thing, not a bad thing.
The mini-games can throw you off if you're not a fan. I'm a fan of the mini-games, so I didn't mind the challenge with the boxes, or Tifa's sit-ups, or even the frogs. I found them humorous and fun.
Part of my experience though goes back to nostalgia with the original game 25years ago. I want to soak up every inch of this game. I'm loving it.
Disagree about the reality based animations especially for a jrpg, but definitely agree about this game being for die hard fans of OG FF7. I LIKE OG FF7 but don't LOVE it. If a remake like this were to happen for FF6 or 9 I would be all over it though.
Oh wow
Buggy animation didn't bother me but the ungodly amount of times that dumbass AI and chadley interrupt you to say the most pointless and obvious things ever legitimately ruin the pacing of the game. I swear to god i hate that stupid character so much right now and i bet it will be even worse in Part 3 since the japanese audience apparently loves MAI.. of course right.
@@DankinTwitch No you wouldn't be happy if they remade ff6 or ff9 they would just add the multiverse story telling to those as well and have them so convoluted just like this one. I hope they don't remake those games I don't want anymore remakes from squarenix.
@@crossroads8370the multiverse thing is fine y’all just love to complain. It doesn’t change the main story, it’s a way to tell the story in a different way, what’s to cry about? You can still play the og game matter of fact I bought it last night for $15.99 on my ps5. Useless complaining a multiverse, as a fan you should be glad they are doing this n not just retconning the OG story.
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They also cramped a little too much annoying mind games i agree. Some annoying flaws but good game
This game mops the floor with 16
Which is just sad for the franchise and not a W
Indeed. And it could've demolished if it was more polished, balanced and refined
That's a low bar to clear sadly enough... :(
The rufus rematch was stupid and unnecessary
In what world does this game force Aerith on you, it is clear the Tifa is the canon relationship with Cloud in this game, her date is the only one that ends in a kiss.
It isnt. The kiss isn't canon but fanservice. Aerith singing at the play and her date are canon
@@itsbeyondme5560 your right but tifa does get forced in this game
@@NoahBuchanan_ Because of fanservice.
For all of chapter 14 it’s like Aerith and Cloud are being forced together. Don’t know if this is because the Zach stuff or what. Im trying to figure what’s even going on. But Aerith is definitely seeming to date cloud at the end
no ff7 snowboarding built into the game. never playing this trash, sorry lil bro
I'm actually struggling to finish this game...by Junon I was born of the game and it's repetitiveness and it's constant progression blocked by minigames..
By the time I got to Cosmo Canyon I didn't even really want to play anymore.
I am literally dragging my feet to finish playing this cash grab of a game
Do you know the definition of a cash grab ??? There is so much effort here it's crazy.... also if you do NO side quests you're getting through this game in like 30 hours so wtf are you even talking about lmfaoo 😂😂😂
It is kind of a cash grab given that
they had all the time in the world to make useless mini games, instead of this they could've just actually finished the whole story.
Idk who enjoyed playing mini games like cactuar crush, 3d brawler or that annoying fort condor games
They completely neutered RedXIII.
His skill set is useless and what they did to his voice was a travesty.
Graphically it’s awful. It can’t sustain a hd resolution, there is numerous texture pop in, terrible lighting, different high res models for different cutscenes, a trick ffx did 23 years ago.
In many ways it looks like a cross between a ps3/ps4 game.
I don’t think it looks any better than final fantasy xv. For a PlayStation 5 game there is little to no improvement over Remake, in many ways it looks worse. At least Remake could sustain a hd resolution. And only had a few places, like wall market and slums with ps3 npc’s and poor textures,
The ps3 looking towns, illegible text, npc’s all add up to make Rebirth look really dated in my opinion.
Sephiroth is just so overused compared to the OG version can’t even take him serious anymore you can’t use Vincent or cid battles taking too long minigames are annoying
Well it kinda makes sense. He is from the future. In og he barely did anything until the end, and he failed. So of course he will be more active and engage with people more. Hell the first time we see him in remake he tries to make aerith and cloud not even meet. Makes sense.
No it doesn’t make sense have you even played the original
@@Moneybill01 yup, multiple times. again, this is not a 1 to 1 ratio of the original. its a sequel. if you understand that, its easy to understand why seph is so active this time. even his overall goal is different than OG. you know that right?
Yeah this is why sales are so bad how to butcher a game and overload it with rubbish
@Moneybill01 nah so the sales in Japan are low because the game catered to the west too much. The game ended up being second most sold on Playstation, next to helldivers. The numbers are also only to physical sales, not digital which we may never get unless square talks. But yeah, game is obviously geared more towards western audience, which the east hates. We gotta wait to see digital sales though to see if it's a true success or not so much. Could be another ff16 situation where sales end up fine, but not amazing. Time will tell
The countless, bullshit and largely unfair mini-games nearly made me rage quit completely. So much unneeded bloat and filler, and almost all of them are straight trash and a chore to get through. I hated Queen's Blood at first but the more I got used to it and started winning better cards, I actually really enjoy it. Other than the piano mini game, ALL of the others suck ass and need to die.
I love the game ending.i think the ending is better than the original ending because that ending didn't make Sense either if you thought about it. I would complain about the tone swifts in this game but because i played the original last month, i cant complain too much because that game tone was all over the place too
Cant please anybody
It felt very heavily Kingdom Hearts, not a bad thing, but also not a good thing. This is Final Fantasy. It should be separate.
The combat and Queen's Blood are the only 2 fun parts about Rebirth. Everything else was ungodly cringe and boring, just like Remake.
Your criticisms are on point. I just want to add:
- In Rebirth, you still need to stop and watch the whole slow sword animation when you break crates.
- Limit breaks / a lot of moves also missed a lot in Remake, so they're still broken.
You must have never played the original
you can dodge cancel the sword animation if it really bothers you so much, but saying everything else was cringe and boring is insane, it’s your opinion but you are the very small minority of players who didn’t enjoy the game thoroughly
@@sameebasit3725 right I feel bad for people who can’t enjoy good stuff
The original FF7 is my favorite game of all time. I literally just replayed it. It's completely different from the remake series, so I don't know what your comment was implying.
I kind of agree, although I will add that there were some scenes which were very well written character moments. In a vacuum many scenes worked well. Overall the story is a mess though, unfortunately.
This game is a masterpiece, of
Course some minigames fucking suck. Thats their job lmao
Why would it be their job to have bad mini-games?
Agreed on evrything you said ! thx , all streamer/youtuber only praise but the ending is sooo horrible, n oemotion. Too many mini-games, ubisoft like opne world was not necessary aswell. It could have been a legendary above the original legend but it's not. The gmae stil l good tho but not that good...
play ff7, aerith one of the main cast besides cloud and sephiroth, doesn't like aerith very much, feels like she is being forced on you too much, the game literally is about her and cloud saving the planet from meteor...
The original forced Aerith on Cloud. That’s how I felt as a kid when I played. And I never really liked her character, to be honest. I liked her in Remake and I like her in Rebirth.
@@vladik87not hate but she's the main character of the story (whilr Cloud is the main character of the game) you can feel like she's "forced" to you whatever but somehow she's the plot
@@daeith1233 I know she’s the main character. That’s why the game forces her on you.
Greatest game of all time ty square Enix
If a game has walking sections, and squeezing between walls, it aint worth anyone's time.
Spoilers:
This game is a sequel. The timeline sephiroth with the whispers is the sephiroth from og ff7.
Also yuffie is just a zoomer influencer, and it's fucking annoying.
Tone down the minigames, improve traversal, remove half of the pointless open world collectibles like towers and crystals.. we don't need that, remove completely Queen's Blood from the game like entirely and the game would be a 8-9 for me.
Spoken like a true games journalist
@@BarfDrinker420If you liked that shit you can go play Far Cry, Assassin's Creed or a card game. FF should be mainly about combat and the few minigames the og had like chocobo races, G bike, arena etc which are awesome.
I was with you until the Queens Blood removal. That is blasphemy.
@@Kumire_921 so we can't expand anything? We gotta keep things the exact same? Got it. Also, Rebirth does exploration better than any Ubisoft game. These comparisons are pretty dumb. Also, here's a tip, and this may be really difficult so try to understand: you can actually skip the minigames AND the open world collectables. I know, crazy
@@DankinTwitch this person probably sucks some fat asscheeks at card games