@@Doctorsup-lk5kyyeah but rumors are also saying that they will build a massive coaster before 2030 and either that was supposed to be for the 50th and it was delayed or they bought flash in a bulk Vekoma and this is just the first one to come idk
@@Doctorsup-lk5kyYeah but if these were supposedly taken from another park and were already in development, why did getting them built take so long? It’s not like with Aquaman at SFOT being delayed for the turntable.
@@ItsSiebay Six flags just always takes longer to build these rides and I think that was because of their strategy. JD was one of the layouts RMC had and that didn’t open until June.
@@EtaM29 When selim came in that giga was off the table and I don’t think they would want to spend that much. In the new earning call it was said that six flags parks would be getting investment like cedar fair. I think it could be put back on the table.
1- trains for neither coasters have arrived at their respective parks (edit: whoops! flash’s has actually arrived.) 2- the vietnam rumor is true - shipping labels on surfer came from that park exactly 3- surfer’s parts have been at the park since december; why they didnt start construction in the off-season baffles me. also, i unfortunately believe since the station on surfer has already been built, there’s no chance they’ll add a turntable. Hopefully this delay allows for some additional theming on both coasters though, itd be a missed opportunity to not make the most of a bad situation
@@CoasterStudios didn’t know about the flash train being in the employee lot! had a friend there the other day and they couldn’t see anything in the station so I had assumed the worst. Thanks for clarifying nonetheless!
@@CoasterStudiosFrom what people online are saying the issue is they didn’t build the station yet. But everyone on this Facebook group is confused because they are building something near the Retro Bar and it’s going up fast. We assume it’s something for fright fest. But who knows.
Great Adventure really dropped the ball on their 50th. The Ferris Wheel just reopened, Log Flume still not reopened, they closed the Skyride, Flash is delayed. Their new resort costs more than if I flew from Newark to Orlando and went to any park there for 2 days. I love my home park but come on.
I feel like a good ball park goal for most parks should be Memorial Day Weekend for new rides. If you can open them soon that’s even better, but I feel Memorial Days is a good goal to set in general because it does in a lot of cases kick off the summer season.
I feel this is the new company's opportunity to 'right schedule' the legacy Six Flag attractions to align with CF parks and open attractions at the beginning of the season.
I feel like Cedar Fair advised that they have already missed the maximum possibility for marketing and just better to open the new rides start of the next season as Cedar Fair has always done...
I recently visited Sixflags Great Adventure not too long ago with some friends, we heard a rumor that one of the problems they had with Flash: Vertical Velocity was that it would occasionally cut the power to Cyborg: Cyberspin & Wonder Woman: Lasso of Truth. I thought it made sense since B&R: The Chiller had similar issues when it was still in operation.
dont know how true it is but someone was saying Flash at great adventure was a power company issue (JCPL). They said I guess JCPL is taking longer to set up power for the ride. Who knows how true that is but we all kind of saw this coming since they've basically done nothing for a month. But atleast now they should have Flash ready to go early next year and we atleast have a new ride to look forward to cause they werent gonna get anything new next year.
I don’t get this though. like the power should’ve been done earlier so you wouldn’t have this open by like fright fest. Did they think it could be done quick or is it just New Jersey being New Jersey? I find it hard to believe that there was no communication on that until now. I’m thinking there’s a delay because the cedar fair people are smart. Having this open for fright fest just isn’t needed.
Since the new people in charge now thanks to the merger it doesn’t make sense to open these coasters now. Six flags always opens their coasters late but these were also last minute additions which didn’t help either.
Aren’t you the guy that said great America is better than kings island island and cedar point 💀 bro, no they are not, cedar fair has done way better for six flags just look at the coasters at discovery kingdom, don’t know about you, but their maintenance is absolute garbage 💀💀 cedar fair is way better 💀💀💀💀
This is a business 101 move which is: Pause work so the coaster can open on the first day of the 2025 season (which lines up with Cedar Fairs model-who is now running the parks). This allows the parks to have a new attraction for 2025 and now neither parks need to worry about financing a new attraction and they can use those funds to start cleaning up those Six Flags parks to align with Cedar Fair parks. Also, they will now have the funds to dress up the area similar to what Cedar Fair did at Kings Dominion. I feel next August this new company will classify each park into a tier and I feel they will make Great Adventure their premium tier. Therefore, this will mean lots of investments for Great Adventure's infrastructure and landscaping.
2025 Capex decisions were made before the merger closed and be Selim. Last July he made his grand increased Capex pronouncement for 2024 and 2025 of 200 to 220M. If Cedar fair was making the decisions for 2025 Capex for SF legacy parks there wouldn't be coasters at a some of the parks that are getting them...ie...Magic Mountain and Great America. Neither of those parks need a coaster(I go to both on a yearly basis), their issues are all the other stuff, that CF parks does much better. Both parks have poor staffing, poor ops(5 minute dispatches at MM is the norm on most coasters) poor food service, poor food options, low capacity food locations which leads to long lines, obvious deferred maintenance that makes the parks look shabby in many areas. Not to mention the employees have a look of misery on their faces b/c they are set up to fail by poor logistics and often having to do the job for 2, This is likely the last dance for poor Capex decisions in 2025, unless Selim signed some 2026 deals that they can't alter.
Id go for magic mountain since along with CP its the best park in the new chain also look out for great America getting something big for their 50th in 2026
2:06 that plus if you remember SFOG sent out a survey asking the people to choose a custom game (which I believe went on till like somewhere in January that then survey closed)
SFOG saying there was supply chain issues were indeed true according to the park president during their Coaster Fest presentation. It was also said that the train arrived to the park on August 14.
Lol and I'm over here just patiently waiting for the announcement from Great America on 8/15 about the new attraction coming in 2025 since it's my home park. I'm kind of expecting a dive coaster but personally, I'd rather see something more exciting since most dive coasters tend to feel like one a trick pony.
I think in my opinion Cedar Fair aka the new Six Flags is going to address this. If a new attraction is advertised for a specific year, they want it open that year. A milestone like Great Adventure’s 50th anniversary should have been planned better. The old Six Flags added Flash “at the last minute”. Kingda Ka was advertised as new for 2005 and it opened that year (a few months late though). El Toro was advertised for 2006 and it opened that year. Six Flags has dropped the ball in recent years.
i feel like they’re pushing Georgia Surfer to 2025 because it’s somewhat of a “water ride” with being on water and the splash effect, so maybe they’re still figuring all that out plus they want to open it during the hot summer so people can cool off. i’m disappointed because i’m going there for labor day and expected to ride this but oh well, guess that’s an excuse to come back! 😆
I heard great adventure delay was because the power company that was to extend power to that section of the park for the ride wasn’t able to start project for several weeks.
From my knowledge Veckoma hasnt done a turntable on a rollercoaster before and therefore did not offer this as an option for six flags. If they decided to add a turntable they will have to do r&d in it or go through a different company
The fact that SF even contracted for a a single train coaster at a park the size of GAdv shows again their poor planning, management and decisions making. The ride according to the POV has 1 min 30 seconds ride time, you take in load and unload time of 1min 40sec that's generous..You're getting 20 cycles per hour with 24 riders per cycle. That's 480/hr capacity. The notion it has 800 capacity is nonsensical. that would be 33 cycles per hour and ride and load/unload time combined of about 1:50. The ride time is 1:20, they aren't loading and unloading in 30 seconds per cycle
@@CoasterStudios Yep, I went around 25 times this season and they had two trains once. Not sure if it is because one was down or they were just being Six Flags.
I was there 2 days in July..90+ degrees and with running 1 train the regular line was 15 minutes. They ran 2 trains part of the day and it was a walk on/1 cycle wait. That ride seems to be a flop and not producing the ridership they surely expected.
Thanks for touching on the statements they released. I thought it was odd how they did it too lol feels like there saying “be happy with what you got”. Should’ve took the first part out lol
Don't you find it ironic, that a coaster themed to the world's fastest superhero ... the WORLD'S FASTEST SUPERHERO ... has had one of, if not THE SLOWEST construction paces I've ever seen at SFGAdv? Ever since the track was nearly completed, it's like every day they only tighten one or two (maybe three) bolts and call it a day.
And suddenly after the second minute I noticed that Taylor was wearing a Hansa Park T-shirt. Gives a thumbs up for this video, no matter what it's about. :D
@@maverickheartlineroll Honestly I'd love to see Mack do something that isnt europe themed, just look at what they did with piraten in batavia and arthur. give them some aztec and western stuff and you'll have the best themed experiences outside of disney and universal in the US by a long shot
I heard the reason for Flash not opening is because of supplying power to the coaster. The electric company working on the project said they would need 3-4 months to build a power grid for Flash, which I guess was too long of a time for the park. So, the park officials almost decided to close Dark Knight and Justice League and use their power source to get Flash open, but I guess the Cedar Fair executives voted against it.
I approve the move.... allow me elaborate.... they have new management who don't do openings mid and late season so now they have at current time 4 new coasters (and counting) opening in the chain next year
@@porcelainthunder2213 not ALOT of money..I worked construction in NY and we have had to discontinue work due to weather and if the companies I worked for can afford it I'm sure Six Flags can too
@@bobbysteele7640 weather is one thing. There is insurance for weather delays. And you’re generally not picking everything up and leaving. Construction companies usually also have clauses that if the project is delayed by the owner, there is usually a pretty hefty fine in the contract. It’s akin to a change order.
There’s a jolt at the end of the ride that is a clear manufacturing defect. It can be seen in on ride videos. It’s not uncomfortable but it’s definitely not supposed to be there.
Growing up in the 70's and 80;s when a new ride was announced. It premiered that year. Before the summer. Now six flags will present a new coaster but it always opens the next year of its advertised premiere year . so if they say "New for 2024" it will be for the next year. LOL
Give it up on the turntable idea ... although it would certainly be nice, It's not going to happen (and I will gladly eat my hat if I am wrong about this).
I feel though even if Georgia Surfer and flash were last minute Summer 2023 that they could have atleast started land clearing and sight prep which from my understanding didn’t start till late spring 2024.
I also wonder if Georgia Surfer being a water ride has anything to do with them deciding not to open it until next year. It doesn't look great on the park though, especially after the "Summer 2023" Kid Flash didn't open until November.
The train has been onsite since May. I’ve seen the train crates with my OWN eyes. Most people commenting don’t know what they are talking about or the reasons for the delay. Just another reason to be outraged, make content and speculation. The coaster will be opening in 2025. It was a LAST MINUTE addition. The park did its best, old Six Flags corporate is the blame here. Time to move on. New corporate management in town, things will be changing and I’m along for the ride.
Now it's Cedar Points move with TT2. I think it's inevitable that it's not opening up the remainder of this year and CP just needs to come to terms and just SAY SOMETHING. It feels like someone in the PR department needs to get the axe because of the lack of communication regarding TT2 because it has been way too long since any kind of real update has been given and it makes them look really bad. 😕
I'm really curious what's gonna happen with the Six Flags Mexico tilt coaster. Track is on site but I don't think any real construction has started, and that's supposedly a similar situation to these 2.
The thing is its not even technically a water ride- the water feature is just a bonus, it doesn't NEED it to operate, and supposedly the water won't even get you wet cause its shooting outwards from the track, not at the riders themselves.
It’s not a true water coaster though- the water is not mandatory for the ride to operate- it’s not an actual function like the water on a Mack water coaster or dive coaster that it doubles as a braking system. The water can be turned off here and it won’t affect anything.
As a Great Adventure passholder, I say...eh. I wasn't terribly excited for Flash, and given the capacity issues, I figured I'd ride it during a passholder preview, and then just ignore it for a while.
I'm one of those people who got a pass assuming I'd get to ride flash. I go to college in Canada, and I'm probably not going to spend next summer at home in Pennsylvania, so I don't know if/when I'm going to be able to ride it.
In my heart of hearts, I hope the delay is for turn-tables.... in my experience it's just over budget and they're delaying to reduce forecasted financial impacts of increased cost...
They didn’t even start on these coasters until after the season started it was not the merger this is what six flags does. Great America is getting a new coaster and there are no signs of it even being stated
Exactly. Cedar Fair starts building their major coasters early with the plan of them opening with the park or early season. SF has no plan to open things until July at best in almost all cases. Besides the 2 delayed coasters, they haven't even opened the pendulum at SFST or any of the stuff as SFFT(not remotely close to being done). Now, CF has issues too...ie...T2 got derailed by a engineering issue with the manufacturer, but CP was doing major construction last summer and had it ready for opening day.
The turn table for flash isn’t out of the possibility since they have done nothing to the station I hope they open it for 2024 previews in the holiday park or something.
surfer i buy the delay in stuff coming in. flash on the other hand has to be adding the turn table in. there is no way they are going to say 3-4 hour wait for a boomerang is good for business. either way i hopefully look forward to riding that beautiful ride in 2028.
No turntable is gonna be added for both coasters. This is not like Aquaman where it’s meant to have a turntable but SF got the one without it therefore cause it to get delayed 3 times
I was one of those who bought a Lagoon pass when Primordial was delayed, first thing I thought of when I heard the news of Flash. It’s frustrating from a guest perspective!
Rumor is that Six Flags great Adventure is having an issue powering the LSMs for Flash. It does not work with the park power supply and it needs to be wired to the main power grid of the city. Flash is close to the same spot as batman and robin the chiller in which they also had trouble powering. It could not be launched at the same time due to power issues. This makes the most sense. Great adventure does not care about flash only having one train. Medusa has been on 1 train all season. Medusas lift hill is about the same duration as Flash. Nitro still on 2. Jersey Devil who can run 4 trains is only on 2. This is just poor planning and lack of care. Hopefully Cedar Fair can take over this park and get rid of the people who let it Rot.
Very interesting points! I didn't even think about power supply- that definitely could be true. Its just sad though if power really is the reason for the delay because surely they didn't think about this earlier? Like if they've literally had this problem before did they not anticipate this being a potential issue again?
@@CoasterStudios yeah and that’s from a very reliable source that also knew about specifics about the b&m dive at great America well before it opened , so I’d definitely believe it.
I bought our Cedar Point family passes with the reason/promise of TT2 but no luck as of writing this. I understand about all the technical issues, etc, prototype of a prototype and all that. Iff it’s not going to open during the regular season, shouldn’t we get something for that? I know it technically opened but also closed shortly after. We haven’t rode it and haven’t visited because of this. I mean… yeah
Six flags over Georgia opening Georgia surfer in 2025 is perfect because the MLB all star game will be in Atlanta that year so attendance should go up.
Six flags could care less about construction, six flags stl opened rookie racer during like the last month of the season, it was like open for a month and then the season ended. Like they are not good on construction and could care less.
SFOG get push back it would open up late September or October and its have the water feature on this ride. They want the ride have that on when its open. I go to the park alot and its not the first time a coaster get push back. Kid Flash was push back and till this is not running everyday
Flash was basically an "oops, I forgot your birthday. Here's your present" project
Not exactly. Remember six flags was trying to go all out with family rides but then realized that was a mistake. That led to these being last minute
@@Doctorsup-lk5kyyeah but rumors are also saying that they will build a massive coaster before 2030 and either that was supposed to be for the 50th and it was delayed or they bought flash in a bulk Vekoma and this is just the first one to come idk
@@Doctorsup-lk5kyYeah but if these were supposedly taken from another park and were already in development, why did getting them built take so long?
It’s not like with Aquaman at SFOT being delayed for the turntable.
@@ItsSiebay Six flags just always takes longer to build these rides and I think that was because of their strategy. JD was one of the layouts RMC had and that didn’t open until June.
@@EtaM29 When selim came in that giga was off the table and I don’t think they would want to spend that much. In the new earning call it was said that six flags parks would be getting investment like cedar fair. I think it could be put back on the table.
This feels like a six flags move. It gives me flashbacks to when West Coast Racers opened
Tbf WCR and GS are prototype coasters.
Flash isn't a prototype but it was a last minute purchase
I Will be 26
1- trains for neither coasters have arrived at their respective parks (edit: whoops! flash’s has actually arrived.)
2- the vietnam rumor is true - shipping labels on surfer came from that park exactly
3- surfer’s parts have been at the park since december; why they didnt start construction in the off-season baffles me. also, i unfortunately believe since the station on surfer has already been built, there’s no chance they’ll add a turntable.
Hopefully this delay allows for some additional theming on both coasters though, itd be a missed opportunity to not make the most of a bad situation
The train for Flash is sitting in the employee parking lot. Didn't know that shipping labels for Surfer came from Vietnam though, thats interesting.
@@CoasterStudios didn’t know about the flash train being in the employee lot! had a friend there the other day and they couldn’t see anything in the station so I had assumed the worst. Thanks for clarifying nonetheless!
@@CoasterStudiosFrom what people online are saying the issue is they didn’t build the station yet. But everyone on this Facebook group is confused because they are building something near the Retro Bar and it’s going up fast.
We assume it’s something for fright fest. But who knows.
Great Adventure really dropped the ball on their 50th. The Ferris Wheel just reopened, Log Flume still not reopened, they closed the Skyride, Flash is delayed. Their new resort costs more than if I flew from Newark to Orlando and went to any park there for 2 days. I love my home park but come on.
I feel like a good ball park goal for most parks should be Memorial Day Weekend for new rides. If you can open them soon that’s even better, but I feel Memorial Days is a good goal to set in general because it does in a lot of cases kick off the summer season.
Yes Magic Mountain used to do this with their new rides but ever since Tatsu they just haven’t cared
I feel this is the new company's opportunity to 'right schedule' the legacy Six Flag attractions to align with CF parks and open attractions at the beginning of the season.
Yes I hope this means flash will open in April or May instead of August or September
Out of the 3 parks I visited this year I got to ride the new Sky Striker at SFGA, Snoopys Soap Box Racers at Kings Island but not TT2 at Cedar Point
2024 is just the year of delayed coasters
for the US
Delayed Coasters Psrt Duex with the first part being the COVID years.
Yeah it's shaping up to be the decade of delayed coasters.
Montezoomas revenge is delayed
It’s now the new 2020. How ironic is that
I feel like Cedar Fair advised that they have already missed the maximum possibility for marketing and just better to open the new rides start of the next season as Cedar Fair has always done...
Bingo
I recently visited Sixflags Great Adventure not too long ago with some friends, we heard a rumor that one of the problems they had with Flash: Vertical Velocity was that it would occasionally cut the power to Cyborg: Cyberspin & Wonder Woman: Lasso of Truth. I thought it made sense since B&R: The Chiller had similar issues when it was still in operation.
4:13 this reminds me of how my grandparents 50th anniversary was delayed to 51st due to covid
dont know how true it is but someone was saying Flash at great adventure was a power company issue (JCPL). They said I guess JCPL is taking longer to set up power for the ride. Who knows how true that is but we all kind of saw this coming since they've basically done nothing for a month. But atleast now they should have Flash ready to go early next year and we atleast have a new ride to look forward to cause they werent gonna get anything new next year.
I don’t get this though. like the power should’ve been done earlier so you wouldn’t have this open by like fright fest. Did they think it could be done quick or is it just New Jersey being New Jersey? I find it hard to believe that there was no communication on that until now. I’m thinking there’s a delay because the cedar fair people are smart. Having this open for fright fest just isn’t needed.
LSM is big power.
@@christopherc2780 Power would be the first thing you’d install along with the civil engineering work.
Since the new people in charge now thanks to the merger it doesn’t make sense to open these coasters now. Six flags always opens their coasters late but these were also last minute additions which didn’t help either.
Stop glazing
Aren’t you the guy that said great America is better than kings island island and cedar point 💀 bro, no they are not, cedar fair has done way better for six flags just look at the coasters at discovery kingdom, don’t know about you, but their maintenance is absolute garbage 💀💀 cedar fair is way better 💀💀💀💀
3/10 bait. Bait used to be believable…
@@revived2036he’s actually not wrong about this
@@Doctorsup-lk5ky bait also to be believable
This is a business 101 move which is: Pause work so the coaster can open on the first day of the 2025 season (which lines up with Cedar Fairs model-who is now running the parks). This allows the parks to have a new attraction for 2025 and now neither parks need to worry about financing a new attraction and they can use those funds to start cleaning up those Six Flags parks to align with Cedar Fair parks. Also, they will now have the funds to dress up the area similar to what Cedar Fair did at Kings Dominion.
I feel next August this new company will classify each park into a tier and I feel they will make Great Adventure their premium tier. Therefore, this will mean lots of investments for Great Adventure's infrastructure and landscaping.
2025 Capex decisions were made before the merger closed and be Selim. Last July he made his grand increased Capex pronouncement for 2024 and 2025 of 200 to 220M. If Cedar fair was making the decisions for 2025 Capex for SF legacy parks there wouldn't be coasters at a some of the parks that are getting them...ie...Magic Mountain and Great America. Neither of those parks need a coaster(I go to both on a yearly basis), their issues are all the other stuff, that CF parks does much better. Both parks have poor staffing, poor ops(5 minute dispatches at MM is the norm on most coasters) poor food service, poor food options, low capacity food locations which leads to long lines, obvious deferred maintenance that makes the parks look shabby in many areas. Not to mention the employees have a look of misery on their faces b/c they are set up to fail by poor logistics and often having to do the job for 2, This is likely the last dance for poor Capex decisions in 2025, unless Selim signed some 2026 deals that they can't alter.
Love all the news! This and the D23 coverage were fantastic!
perfect time to at a giga at knotts or magic mountain
RMC GOLIATH. MAKE IT A STRATA T-REX.
@@JSXSProductionsYou forgot the AquaTrax 😂
Knotts would be super hard but magic mountain it is possible. Both are my home park
Id go for magic mountain since along with CP its the best park in the new chain also look out for great America getting something big for their 50th in 2026
unfortunately, knotts giga got shut down by the city due to noise concerns
Six flags being six flags
2:06 that plus if you remember SFOG sent out a survey asking the people to choose a custom game (which I believe went on till like somewhere in January that then survey closed)
SFOG saying there was supply chain issues were indeed true according to the park president during their Coaster Fest presentation. It was also said that the train arrived to the park on August 14.
If COTAland get Circuit Breaker built, 2025 could be the year of the new gen Vekoma thrill coasters in the US. Finally.
Lol and I'm over here just patiently waiting for the announcement from Great America on 8/15 about the new attraction coming in 2025 since it's my home park. I'm kind of expecting a dive coaster but personally, I'd rather see something more exciting since most dive coasters tend to feel like one a trick pony.
Mini dives are very good.
You will be getting a steel b&m dive coaster!
what are your thoughts on the announcement now that it came out?
I think in my opinion Cedar Fair aka the new Six Flags is going to address this. If a new attraction is advertised for a specific year, they want it open that year. A milestone like Great Adventure’s 50th anniversary should have been planned better. The old Six Flags added Flash “at the last minute”. Kingda Ka was advertised as new for 2005 and it opened that year (a few months late though). El Toro was advertised for 2006 and it opened that year. Six Flags has dropped the ball in recent years.
Six Flags has done this so many times before. This is not a surprise at all.
i feel like they’re pushing Georgia Surfer to 2025 because it’s somewhat of a “water ride” with being on water and the splash effect, so maybe they’re still figuring all that out plus they want to open it during the hot summer so people can cool off. i’m disappointed because i’m going there for labor day and expected to ride this but oh well, guess that’s an excuse to come back! 😆
If you buy the season(gold) pass now, you get 2024 and 2025. That’s a consolation for any new ride delays.
I hate the fact that flash is a "last minute addition" it feels like its not a calculated move and more like a last minute birthday gift...😂
I always forget parks have seasons since all of the parks near me are year round lol
I heard great adventure delay was because the power company that was to extend power to that section of the park for the ride wasn’t able to start project for several weeks.
Haven't seen any Super Boomerang turntable pictures or drawings, but a station like Mr. Freeze would help throughput.
At the rate of announcements and breakdowns y'all are nevah gonna ride Pheonix Rising, an hour away mind you 😆😆 you'll love it when you do though!
We might try for it next week but we'll see!
@@CoasterStudios 🙏🏾🙏🏾🤞🏾
From my knowledge Veckoma hasnt done a turntable on a rollercoaster before and therefore did not offer this as an option for six flags. If they decided to add a turntable they will have to do r&d in it or go through a different company
i think they are doing one with jungle rush so the r&d is done in theory
The fact that SF even contracted for a a single train coaster at a park the size of GAdv shows again their poor planning, management and decisions making. The ride according to the POV has 1 min 30 seconds ride time, you take in load and unload time of 1min 40sec that's generous..You're getting 20 cycles per hour with 24 riders per cycle. That's 480/hr capacity. The notion it has 800 capacity is nonsensical. that would be 33 cycles per hour and ride and load/unload time combined of about 1:50. The ride time is 1:20, they aren't loading and unloading in 30 seconds per cycle
SFOT still runs aquaman with one train 95% of the time even with the turntable.
This is sad to hear. When I went it was on two. I had no idea they rarely use the other train.
@@CoasterStudios Yep, I went around 25 times this season and they had two trains once. Not sure if it is because one was down or they were just being Six Flags.
I was there 2 days in July..90+ degrees and with running 1 train the regular line was 15 minutes. They ran 2 trains part of the day and it was a walk on/1 cycle wait. That ride seems to be a flop and not producing the ridership they surely expected.
Thanks for touching on the statements they released. I thought it was odd how they did it too lol feels like there saying “be happy with what you got”. Should’ve took the first part out lol
That would really suck for those who got season passes and expected it to open and now have to wait till next year.
Don't you find it ironic, that a coaster themed to the world's fastest superhero ... the WORLD'S FASTEST SUPERHERO ... has had one of, if not THE SLOWEST construction paces I've ever seen at SFGAdv? Ever since the track was nearly completed, it's like every day they only tighten one or two (maybe three) bolts and call it a day.
And suddenly after the second minute I noticed that Taylor was wearing a Hansa Park T-shirt. Gives a thumbs up for this video, no matter what it's about. :D
I’m so glad iron menace opened on time it’s my second favorite b&m only issue is I hate riding it in the back
I wish the Mack Family would open a park in the states, with the same insane operations and level of theming as in Europa Park ...
And call it America Park (get it lol)
@@maverickheartlineroll Honestly I'd love to see Mack do something that isnt europe themed, just look at what they did with piraten in batavia and arthur. give them some aztec and western stuff and you'll have the best themed experiences outside of disney and universal in the US by a long shot
It would be great competition! All for it! Although it also flirts with being a monopoly, so not likely.
@@christopherfinch-mccollum1753 how would it flirt with being a monopoly?
With USA,Canada,Mexico sections they could even include Central and South American countries 😍😍😍😍😍@@maverickheartlineroll
I heard the reason for Flash not opening is because of supplying power to the coaster. The electric company working on the project said they would need 3-4 months to build a power grid for Flash, which I guess was too long of a time for the park. So, the park officials almost decided to close Dark Knight and Justice League and use their power source to get Flash open, but I guess the Cedar Fair executives voted against it.
Very interesting if true!
I will be riding rapterra day 1. I wonder if theyll do a passholder preview
Georgia Surfer should've been named Tybee Island Surfer
You kind of got the point since the coaster is themed to the boardwalk of Tybee Island
I approve the move.... allow me elaborate.... they have new management who don't do openings mid and late season so now they have at current time 4 new coasters (and counting) opening in the chain next year
I’m all for this if it means the new rides will be open by at least Memorial Day or maybe before that
@@bobbysteele7640 they’d still be working on them though. It costs a lot of money to demobilize and remobilize construction crews.
@@porcelainthunder2213 not ALOT of money..I worked construction in NY and we have had to discontinue work due to weather and if the companies I worked for can afford it I'm sure Six Flags can too
@@bobbysteele7640 weather is one thing. There is insurance for weather delays. And you’re generally not picking everything up and leaving. Construction companies usually also have clauses that if the project is delayed by the owner, there is usually a pretty hefty fine in the contract. It’s akin to a change order.
4:57 my home park and I swear they should’ve never got the turn table cause every time I go it’s only running one train anyways
As long as the rides run well when they open, that’s all that really matters
0 mention of top thrill two? 6:54
What is the track issue with Iron Menance? Have not herd that one yet
There’s a jolt at the end of the ride that is a clear manufacturing defect. It can be seen in on ride videos. It’s not uncomfortable but it’s definitely not supposed to be there.
and i thought top thrill 2 was bad. atleast that ride opened at one point 🤣🤣🤣
Growing up in the 70's and 80;s when a new ride was announced. It premiered that year. Before the summer. Now six flags will present a new coaster but it always opens the next year of its advertised premiere year . so if they say "New for 2024" it will be for the next year. LOL
Give it up on the turntable idea ... although it would certainly be nice, It's not going to happen (and I will gladly eat my hat if I am wrong about this).
I feel though even if Georgia Surfer and flash were last minute Summer 2023 that they could have atleast started land clearing and sight prep which from my understanding didn’t start till late spring 2024.
They can reallocate funds for next operating season to finish construction rather than spending it this season.
I'm guessing SFGAm is going to open a new coaster next year too, so looks like it will be a big year next year
I also wonder if Georgia Surfer being a water ride has anything to do with them deciding not to open it until next year. It doesn't look great on the park though, especially after the "Summer 2023" Kid Flash didn't open until November.
At least Canada's Wonderland started work on their new ride BEFORE announcing it. Seems when old SF builds rides, they announce before construction
Hopefully with the merger they will adopt the cedar fair way of doing things. They had iron menace open before flash was even vertical lol
great adventure i have no words for that place
My HOPE is that these delays mean the rides in question will get more theming when they do open.
Gonna visit SF OG little in 1 month. Traveling from the Netherlands its a bit of a bummer the new ride isn't open....
They need a turntable in Georgia
I saw on a Great adventure page that suposily the trains wasn’t even on site yet. Same with Over Georgia. So makes me wounder
Hmm
@@ThrillsofColdplay not sure if that’s true
The train has been onsite since May. I’ve seen the train crates with my OWN eyes. Most people commenting don’t know what they are talking about or the reasons for the delay. Just another reason to be outraged, make content and speculation. The coaster will be opening in 2025. It was a LAST MINUTE addition. The park did its best, old Six Flags corporate is the blame here. Time to move on. New corporate management in town, things will be changing and I’m along for the ride.
@@TheNitroNomad that’s true. I m sure the new six flags will try to get rides open on time
Also love the content
No surprises there. At this point we gonna get gta 6 before flash
I feel like they ran out of budget that they could allocate to them
Now it's Cedar Points move with TT2. I think it's inevitable that it's not opening up the remainder of this year and CP just needs to come to terms and just SAY SOMETHING. It feels like someone in the PR department needs to get the axe because of the lack of communication regarding TT2 because it has been way too long since any kind of real update has been given and it makes them look really bad. 😕
I'm really curious what's gonna happen with the Six Flags Mexico tilt coaster. Track is on site but I don't think any real construction has started, and that's supposedly a similar situation to these 2.
Flash has no train no station no queue and the list goes on
I think that they are pushing Georgia surfer because it’s a summer coaste that’s supposed to cool you down on a hot day
The thing is its not even technically a water ride- the water feature is just a bonus, it doesn't NEED it to operate, and supposedly the water won't even get you wet cause its shooting outwards from the track, not at the riders themselves.
@@CoasterStudios K, thanks for the info. I was just thinking off the top of my head
Maybe they want to wait for 2025 for hiking up the prices of annual pass, since supposedly you could use it for both sixflags and cedar fair parks
Is it possible they will do a dual load instead of a turntable for Flash? Similar to Mr. Freeze at St. Louis.
I heard the flash rollercoaster was for 2025 (building for Halloween)
There's no point in opening a water Rollercoaster down here in Georgia at the end of the season.
It’s not a true water coaster though- the water is not mandatory for the ride to operate- it’s not an actual function like the water on a Mack water coaster or dive coaster that it doubles as a braking system. The water can be turned off here and it won’t affect anything.
Now that Cedar Fair has majority control over the company, we can only hope that all these late opening s will become a thing of the past.
I wonder if Flash will begin testing during Holiday In The Park I hope so
As a Great Adventure passholder, I say...eh. I wasn't terribly excited for Flash, and given the capacity issues, I figured I'd ride it during a passholder preview, and then just ignore it for a while.
I'm one of those people who got a pass assuming I'd get to ride flash. I go to college in Canada, and I'm probably not going to spend next summer at home in Pennsylvania, so I don't know if/when I'm going to be able to ride it.
What does pr stand for I am Curious
Hansa park shirt is interesting
In my heart of hearts, I hope the delay is for turn-tables.... in my experience it's just over budget and they're delaying to reduce forecasted financial impacts of increased cost...
I could also see this as being a reason
They didn’t even start on these coasters until after the season started it was not the merger this is what six flags does. Great America is getting a new coaster and there are no signs of it even being stated
Exactly. Cedar Fair starts building their major coasters early with the plan of them opening with the park or early season. SF has no plan to open things until July at best in almost all cases. Besides the 2 delayed coasters, they haven't even opened the pendulum at SFST or any of the stuff as SFFT(not remotely close to being done). Now, CF has issues too...ie...T2 got derailed by a engineering issue with the manufacturer, but CP was doing major construction last summer and had it ready for opening day.
The turn table for flash isn’t out of the possibility since they have done nothing to the station I hope they open it for 2024 previews in the holiday park or something.
What about tt2 ? They knew it was not going to open all summer but left it everywhere on there website
surfer i buy the delay in stuff coming in. flash on the other hand has to be adding the turn table in. there is no way they are going to say 3-4 hour wait for a boomerang is good for business. either way i hopefully look forward to riding that beautiful ride in 2028.
No turntable is gonna be added for both coasters. This is not like Aquaman where it’s meant to have a turntable but SF got the one without it therefore cause it to get delayed 3 times
Can you guys do a video on the coaster about to be revealed at SFGAM next week when they reveal it?
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After the announcement we will
@@CoasterStudios ok and thank goodness it's not fright fest because they announced that yesterday
@@CoasterStudios YES! I've been so looking forward to this! The teasers have been so fun to decode!
@@CoasterStudios🥳
do a vid abt sf great america's new coaster before or after it gets announced.
I was one of those who bought a Lagoon pass when Primordial was delayed, first thing I thought of when I heard the news of Flash. It’s frustrating from a guest perspective!
What a shame! Great adventure 50th season and they basically got NOTHING! Thanks for the new Ferris wheel that took 4 ever! GA always does this!
Rumor is that Six Flags great Adventure is having an issue powering the LSMs for Flash. It does not work with the park power supply and it needs to be wired to the main power grid of the city. Flash is close to the same spot as batman and robin the chiller in which they also had trouble powering. It could not be launched at the same time due to power issues. This makes the most sense. Great adventure does not care about flash only having one train. Medusa has been on 1 train all season. Medusas lift hill is about the same duration as Flash. Nitro still on 2. Jersey Devil who can run 4 trains is only on 2. This is just poor planning and lack of care. Hopefully Cedar Fair can take over this park and get rid of the people who let it Rot.
Very interesting points! I didn't even think about power supply- that definitely could be true. Its just sad though if power really is the reason for the delay because surely they didn't think about this earlier? Like if they've literally had this problem before did they not anticipate this being a potential issue again?
@@CoasterStudios yeah and that’s from a very reliable source that also knew about specifics about the b&m dive at great America well before it opened , so I’d definitely believe it.
I bought our Cedar Point family passes with the reason/promise of TT2 but no luck as of writing this. I understand about all the technical issues, etc, prototype of a prototype and all that. Iff it’s not going to open during the regular season, shouldn’t we get something for that?
I know it technically opened but also closed shortly after. We haven’t rode it and haven’t visited because of this. I mean… yeah
is there any merit to a class action lawsuit for false advertising?
Bobcat is the best new for 2024 coaster.
Have a six flags day with a delay!
Would Flash at Great Adventure need a turn table? Would it get that many people on it?
Six flags over Georgia opening Georgia surfer in 2025 is perfect because the MLB all star game will be in Atlanta that year so attendance should go up.
You forgot Top Thrill 2 as another 2024 new coaster disaster!
very true
Difference is TT2 was ready to go on opening day and did technically "open" for a week.
Eltororyan bout to make a problematic roller coasters video on it lol
They should at least install something smaller, like a flat ride in the meantime
Have a 6 flags day, everybody! 😂😂😂😂😂
This was a messy year for Great Adventure
So much for the rumored Giga for 2025.....
Currently passing great adventure as im writing this comment.
Six flags could care less about construction, six flags stl opened rookie racer during like the last month of the season, it was like open for a month and then the season ended. Like they are not good on construction and could care less.
Then this year they acted like that didn't happen and had a grand opening with pins and medals.
SFOG get push back it would open up late September or October and its have the water feature on this ride. They want the ride have that on when its open. I go to the park alot and its not the first time a coaster get push back. Kid Flash was push back and till this is not running everyday