Some really good points of consideration being raised by everyone in the comments here. Just a couple I'll articulate that I forgot to mention in the video: (1) Ride towards traffic so they can see you...... NO, ABSOLUTELY DON'T DO THIS! In fact, riding on the wrong side of the road facing the traffic much more dangerous. Knowing that many drivers dislike cyclists on roads at the best of times, I've seen too many motorists that will not get out of the way for you and their bullbar for example will narrowly miss the rider. Not to mention it is way more dangerous to do this with night time riding using a bike light as it shines more closer toward the drivers eyes. My advice is always to stick to the correct side of the road, which is lawful for road-riding cyclists, but stick as far towards the lefthand safety corridor lane as possible. Sure, you won't see vehicle coming behind you (unless you have rear vision mirror), but if drivers can see that you are attempting to be courteous to motorists by staying far left, they usually are more sympathetic or maybe courteous toward you and will give you your 1.5m distance. But if you're a cyclist who rides that white line or even take up lane space that the motorist is on, then that's on you. Remember... you ain't no truck, you ain't no car, geez you ain't even a motorbike. Motor vehicle VS cyclist..... MV always wins. (2) The rear trailer of a Road Train swishes like a fish.... This is absolutely true! Next time you're following a Road Train, check out how much the rear trailer moves left into the safety lane, and across to the righthand lane - easily about half-a-meter. The rear trailer does not track the prime mover. If you're cycling or running beside one of these trucks that are hooking in at 110km/hr, then I hope you've already made your peace with God whilst in the land of the living. (3) Road Trains create dangerous Turbulance.... Think about how much you actually have to control your car whenever you pass a Prime Mover due to wind turbulance. Both of your hands are upon your steering wheel, right? Especially when you're driving the top highway speed limit. Now, think about your little human body on a bicycle riding at 20km/hr with one of these beasts flying past at 110km/hr. Hmm... If there's any more relevant points, I'll add them here (maybe).
I have been driving across 'The Paddock' for 45 years and have seen 100's of cyclists and runners in that time. Majority of runners have pilot/back up vehicles with them and use uhf radio's to warn other vehicles they are on the ground. Never have any dramas. There have been some recent fatalities of cyclists that were caused by "international" drivers and those cases are before the courts now. To me, passing cyclists out there is no different to passing them in suburbia. Just got to use common sense. (and so do they)
I drive from Mildura to Mildura on the reg. The calder is at best a goat track. When I'm driving I am always scanning the rd. If I see cyclist in front I know to slow down and pass with care. It's just good etiquette. For reason some drivers think its all good to speed up and put people in danger. There is a safe area if drivers take care of each other . Given the number of people who cycle across the Nullarbor, it would be worthwhile to invest in infrastructure like a a bicycle track to ensure they can do so safely.
I was listening to this idea that cyclists should not be using the road for recreational purposes, from someone who drove to the beach, for recreational purposes.
Not to be done lightly, yes it is bloody dangerous. But, the minute you put your wheel on any road in Australia, you are riding dangerously, it's not just the Nullarbor with those conditions - it is the majority of rural roads. Good points about lights and visibility and showing courtesy to other users - no the 1.5 meter rule doesn't always work on the Nullarbor (or most other places), you need to be aware of what is happening around you and to be prepared to get off the road quickly! Yes, the road trains are plentiful and again you need to be aware of the wind effect as they pass, better to get off the road. But I'm sorry, dreams are important, even that important. Ideally, one day there will be a separate path, with road trains and other large or wide vehicles (yes caravans are wider at the back!), shoulders are just not enough.
@nbartlett6538 Riding right on the white line when there is at least 1.5 metres of sealed road to the left of the line. When I ride I always keep as far left as possible.
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Wow what a great Video yet again mate, very well said. I also swear I saw you riding down near my place today(Monday 25th) in Bethania along Federation drive. Was that you? I wanted to yell out G'day but was travelling In a car in opposite direction so didn't have the time. 😂
Thanks Shaun... yes, I stretched my legs a little since coming back to QLD with a little ride down to the boat ramp and a quick cuppa. Cheers for mentioning it...👍👍
That first cyclist was wearing dark or black gear and he should be wearing red or highly visible gear and I would have a rear flashing light. The shoulder on that road is also not wide enough. Been hit too many times riding on city roads to know drivers are dangerous.
Tell me about it.... there are kilometers of this road that have no shoulder and dip into bush or angled divets. Some people need to learn lessons the hard way, unfortunately.
The danger is what makes it attractive, people need to feel they've achieved something in life. At one time simply surviving against nature was satisfying, now we need to do stupid stuff to get the same buzz.
I don’t think it’s a wise choice to have anyone not in or on a motorised vehicle of some sort along this road. But it’s comes down to people choices and what the road rules allow or don’t allow. Anywhere where there is large road trains you must have be so aware of what’s in front, beside and behind you at all times. Done a few trips out west but still in QLD or NSW the trucks carry some wide and heavy loads. Very difficult for them at speed to pull up in a hurry. Enjoy your trip!
Very true... it's interesting to read on forums what truckies have to say about cyclists on the Nullarbor! I think a large majority of truckies have had a gut full of them and the dangers they are creating on this road. I've read some very interesting comments from them. Was a great trip, back home now which is even better. :)
The problem with road trains, the trailers don't track the prime mover, and with a 3% slope on the road, your rear trailer can be easily 500mm over from where the front wheels are towards the riders
100% correct.... excellent point that I forgot to mention. Every single road train we were following had their rear trailer swishing around like a fish tail. It's extremely eye-opening and sobering to see these cyclists and runners right next to these moving trucks thinking all is ok with where they are.
I think you are gonna catch a lot of flack for this video but as a person who commutes down Beechmont to Nerang daily for work I totally agree. Thank you for your courage! 🫡
If a cyclist gets squished, the truck/vehicle operator is going to be seriously traumatised. Anyone would be burdened with that mental torture for the rest of their life.
Good on ya saying this. As a cyclists myself I totally agree with this. So many cyclists feel intitled and give cyclists a bad name on these roads. It's unfair to put this pressure on a driver on these roads. My thought is the cyclists should have to ride on the opposite side of the road and get off the road when they see oncomming traffic.
You missed mention one key thing - turbulance Just like planes vs winds, its cyclist vs trucks....so always concerate each time trucks go pass as youll need watch balance too
Also, as always, any title that poses a question can be immediately answered with "No." You and your wife? (I don't want to assume) considerably more likely to have died being in a car than on a bicycle on this stretch of highway, the stats are readily available. Its a dangerous road to be sure, on average 4 cyclists die there a year. 121 people in motor vehicles die there a year.
Hi, no comment was deleted by me, but I do have auto-rules to delete comments containing expletives or offensive language.... so not sure what your comment stated.
Motor vehicle deaths will always be much higher simply due to the fact that there are much more vehicles using this road than cyclists.... for example there's I think around 600 trucks that cross the SA/WA border every day. If cycling usage increased on the Eyre Highway more than now, your 4 cyclist deaths a year would be easily increased by the tens.
All cyclists no matter where they are riding should have high lumen lighting on, both day and night. Cycling is about common sense. If you want to be seen, then do everything you can to be seen. Also for anyone doing touring, bikes need to have rear mirrors, so you can see what's coming up behind you and get clear before it's too late.
Driving a car and truck is also about common sense; those drivers need to open their eyes and see other road users. Not be distracted, not make excuses. Why are so many people like you, and push the whole visibility thing onto the bike rider? I've never, never had any problem seeing others, even at sea.
@@petergibson7287 For one thing Peter, I AM a cyclist and have never driven any motorized vehicle in my life. I've spent a lot of time travelling outback roads, and it's not always easy to see what may be in front of you, especially when it's so small. I'm sure you've had times where the Sun is at a low angel and it's been difficult to see. Whatever form of transport people choose to use to go along a road (be it by foot, bike or larger), they all need to take personal responsibility for their safety and the safety for those around them.
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Some really good points of consideration being raised by everyone in the comments here. Just a couple I'll articulate that I forgot to mention in the video:
(1) Ride towards traffic so they can see you...... NO, ABSOLUTELY DON'T DO THIS! In fact, riding on the wrong side of the road facing the traffic much more dangerous. Knowing that many drivers dislike cyclists on roads at the best of times, I've seen too many motorists that will not get out of the way for you and their bullbar for example will narrowly miss the rider. Not to mention it is way more dangerous to do this with night time riding using a bike light as it shines more closer toward the drivers eyes. My advice is always to stick to the correct side of the road, which is lawful for road-riding cyclists, but stick as far towards the lefthand safety corridor lane as possible. Sure, you won't see vehicle coming behind you (unless you have rear vision mirror), but if drivers can see that you are attempting to be courteous to motorists by staying far left, they usually are more sympathetic or maybe courteous toward you and will give you your 1.5m distance. But if you're a cyclist who rides that white line or even take up lane space that the motorist is on, then that's on you. Remember... you ain't no truck, you ain't no car, geez you ain't even a motorbike. Motor vehicle VS cyclist..... MV always wins.
(2) The rear trailer of a Road Train swishes like a fish.... This is absolutely true! Next time you're following a Road Train, check out how much the rear trailer moves left into the safety lane, and across to the righthand lane - easily about half-a-meter. The rear trailer does not track the prime mover. If you're cycling or running beside one of these trucks that are hooking in at 110km/hr, then I hope you've already made your peace with God whilst in the land of the living.
(3) Road Trains create dangerous Turbulance.... Think about how much you actually have to control your car whenever you pass a Prime Mover due to wind turbulance. Both of your hands are upon your steering wheel, right? Especially when you're driving the top highway speed limit. Now, think about your little human body on a bicycle riding at 20km/hr with one of these beasts flying past at 110km/hr. Hmm...
If there's any more relevant points, I'll add them here (maybe).
I've read that running into oncoming traffic is encouraged though and I always practice this. Thoughts?
I have been driving across 'The Paddock' for 45 years and have seen 100's of cyclists and runners in that time. Majority of runners have pilot/back up vehicles with them and use uhf radio's to warn other vehicles they are on the ground. Never have any dramas.
There have been some recent fatalities of cyclists that were caused by "international" drivers and those cases are before the courts now.
To me, passing cyclists out there is no different to passing them in suburbia. Just got to use common sense. (and so do they)
I drive from Mildura to Mildura on the reg. The calder is at best a goat track. When I'm driving I am always scanning the rd. If I see cyclist in front I know to slow down and pass with care. It's just good etiquette. For reason some drivers think its all good to speed up and put people in danger. There is a safe area if drivers take care of each other . Given the number of people who cycle across the Nullarbor, it would be worthwhile to invest in infrastructure like a a bicycle track to ensure they can do so safely.
I was listening to this idea that cyclists should not be using the road for recreational purposes, from someone who drove to the beach, for recreational purposes.
Not to be done lightly, yes it is bloody dangerous. But, the minute you put your wheel on any road in Australia, you are riding dangerously, it's not just the Nullarbor with those conditions - it is the majority of rural roads. Good points about lights and visibility and showing courtesy to other users - no the 1.5 meter rule doesn't always work on the Nullarbor (or most other places), you need to be aware of what is happening around you and to be prepared to get off the road quickly! Yes, the road trains are plentiful and again you need to be aware of the wind effect as they pass, better to get off the road. But I'm sorry, dreams are important, even that important. Ideally, one day there will be a separate path, with road trains and other large or wide vehicles (yes caravans are wider at the back!), shoulders are just not enough.
Totally agree!
4:09 A perfect example of why motorists hate cyclists. Blows my mind the danger people unnecessarily put themselves in.
Putting himself in danger unnecessarily how??
@nbartlett6538 Riding right on the white line when there is at least 1.5 metres of sealed road to the left of the line.
When I ride I always keep as far left as possible.
@@2jbass The clip is about 2 seconds long, you have no idea why he is positioned there.
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Wow what a great Video yet again mate, very well said. I also swear I saw you riding down near my place today(Monday 25th) in Bethania along Federation drive. Was that you? I wanted to yell out G'day but was travelling In a car in opposite direction so didn't have the time. 😂
Thanks Shaun... yes, I stretched my legs a little since coming back to QLD with a little ride down to the boat ramp and a quick cuppa. Cheers for mentioning it...👍👍
That first cyclist was wearing dark or black gear and he should be wearing red or highly visible gear and I would have a rear flashing light. The shoulder on that road is also not wide enough. Been hit too many times riding on city roads to know drivers are dangerous.
Tell me about it.... there are kilometers of this road that have no shoulder and dip into bush or angled divets. Some people need to learn lessons the hard way, unfortunately.
You had me worried there for a moment, mate. I thought you were about to give it a shot.
Lol.... I think I want to still keep creating a few more videos. 😂
The danger is what makes it attractive, people need to feel they've achieved something in life. At one time simply surviving against nature was satisfying, now we need to do stupid stuff to get the same buzz.
Spot on, riders regardless of where or what they ride must take responsibility for their own safety always
I don’t think it’s a wise choice to have anyone not in or on a motorised vehicle of some sort along this road. But it’s comes down to people choices and what the road rules allow or don’t allow. Anywhere where there is large road trains you must have be so aware of what’s in front, beside and behind you at all times. Done a few trips out west but still in QLD or NSW the trucks carry some wide and heavy loads. Very difficult for them at speed to pull up in a hurry. Enjoy your trip!
Very true... it's interesting to read on forums what truckies have to say about cyclists on the Nullarbor! I think a large majority of truckies have had a gut full of them and the dangers they are creating on this road. I've read some very interesting comments from them.
Was a great trip, back home now which is even better. :)
The problem with road trains, the trailers don't track the prime mover, and with a 3% slope on the road, your rear trailer can be easily 500mm over from where the front wheels are towards the riders
100% correct.... excellent point that I forgot to mention. Every single road train we were following had their rear trailer swishing around like a fish tail. It's extremely eye-opening and sobering to see these cyclists and runners right next to these moving trucks thinking all is ok with where they are.
I think you are gonna catch a lot of flack for this video but as a person who commutes down Beechmont to Nerang daily for work I totally agree. Thank you for your courage! 🫡
If a cyclist gets squished, the truck/vehicle operator is going to be seriously traumatised. Anyone would be burdened with that mental torture for the rest of their life.
Enjoy the road trip..
It was a fantastic trip and a great experience to travel the Nullarbor... but even better to be back home now. ☺️
@@jelbuilderfilms glad you are back safe.. The road trains are amazing ...
Good on ya saying this. As a cyclists myself I totally agree with this. So many cyclists feel intitled and give cyclists a bad name on these roads. It's unfair to put this pressure on a driver on these roads.
My thought is the cyclists should have to ride on the opposite side of the road and get off the road when they see oncomming traffic.
You missed mention one key thing - turbulance
Just like planes vs winds, its cyclist vs trucks....so always concerate each time trucks go pass as youll need watch balance too
Spot on... I did forget to mention Turbulance. That's a massive key point! Thanks.
User name checks out 😂
Why did you delete my comment mentioning you fail to pass at a safe distance?
Also, as always, any title that poses a question can be immediately answered with "No."
You and your wife? (I don't want to assume) considerably more likely to have died being in a car than on a bicycle on this stretch of highway, the stats are readily available. Its a dangerous road to be sure, on average 4 cyclists die there a year.
121 people in motor vehicles die there a year.
Hi, no comment was deleted by me, but I do have auto-rules to delete comments containing expletives or offensive language.... so not sure what your comment stated.
Motor vehicle deaths will always be much higher simply due to the fact that there are much more vehicles using this road than cyclists.... for example there's I think around 600 trucks that cross the SA/WA border every day. If cycling usage increased on the Eyre Highway more than now, your 4 cyclist deaths a year would be easily increased by the tens.
@@jelbuilderfilms my apologies then, I don't think i swore but perhaps something else auto-moderated it.
Maybe just your wanky tone?
All cyclists no matter where they are riding should have high lumen lighting on, both day and night. Cycling is about common sense. If you want to be seen, then do everything you can to be seen. Also for anyone doing touring, bikes need to have rear mirrors, so you can see what's coming up behind you and get clear before it's too late.
Driving a car and truck is also about common sense; those drivers need to open their eyes and see other road users.
Not be distracted, not make excuses.
Why are so many people like you, and push the whole visibility thing onto the bike rider?
I've never, never had any problem seeing others, even at sea.
@@petergibson7287 For one thing Peter, I AM a cyclist and have never driven any motorized vehicle in my life. I've spent a lot of time travelling outback roads, and it's not always easy to see what may be in front of you, especially when it's so small. I'm sure you've had times where the Sun is at a low angel and it's been difficult to see. Whatever form of transport people choose to use to go along a road (be it by foot, bike or larger), they all need to take personal responsibility for their safety and the safety for those around them.
Crazy People. Just Driving And Dealing With Those Road Trains Look Scary!
You're right on the money, Bat....... Crazy People! 👍👍
Walk, run, cycle FACING the oncoming traffic so they can get out of the way, they can see what is coming. And ALWAYS were bright coloured clothes.
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