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I really like that you said its more important to consolidate what you have already learned than to always be learning new words. I think I am around 15k known words (my morphman db got messed up when I installed migaku so I dont have any concrete metric to go off of) so I'm often having to resort to 0 star words and phrases if I want to add any new cards to my deck in a given day. Finding content that seems worth mining from can be sort of anxiety inducing at times. But lately Ive listened to more people talk about the benefits of extensive reading where you have like 98% comprehension and its made me think maybe relatively easy content is just as worthwhile. Lately Ive come to think about how seeing a word you know in an unfamiliar context is basically like learning a new word. And you really dont fully know a word until you have seen it used in various contexts and fully grasp what the sentence means. Hence the often repeated conundrum of "knowing" all the words in a sentence but not understanding what it means.
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THE LEGEND dude just read and listen a lot. I see you everywhere asking how to learn and people give you a lot of detailed responses but you choose to ignore it.
@@georgeallen7487 When I started I felt like I had some basic vocab from immersion (mostly watching anime) but I'd never actually studied and I knew 0 kanji. By the time I took N1 I had around 600 hours on Anki. Unfortunately I didnt track my listening and reading stats but I must have done at least 4h daily minimum during that time. To be fair I barely passed N1 so I wasn't at a level way above when I took the exam but I was still pretty proud of my accomplishment.
From what I've calculated he spent on average 8hrs a day on immersion. I wish I could do that, like quitting my job and just do immersion, all I can do is half that time for now.
He said when he was beginning it took him almost 2 hrs a day to anki. Once you do anki for a long time, you have less and less new words you encounter so less and less new cards. Much faster reviews.
@@ryanasher6390 I get that, but I'm talking about doing reps, not new card creation. I can do about 60-80 reps in half an hour if I get in a groove, maybe 90. But adding 25 cards or so a day snowballs fast. To be fair, he didn't say how long he spent on reps alone early on, and when he said he spends half an hour daily on reps, he meant recently, where he's only adding 10 or less a day. Though he would he would have a pretty massive card bank by now, I'm not sure. I've heard of people doing well over a hundred daily, still with a half hour. Dunno how they do it 😅
@@bobfranklin2572 yeah, same man. Cards can go fast when you just see りんご=apple, but as you get on to verbs that don't have 1:1 translations it starts taking a lot longer. I recently turned my anki down to just 10 new cards a day so I can have time to actually use the language/read/listen to it and not just stare at cards over and over. The more new cards, the faster reviews just pile up and destroy me. I used to have more new cards a day, but would burn out and stop using my Japanese afterwards, and eventually have no new cards left because I wasn't immersing much, but have a gigantic backlog of reviews. Now I just try to keep it sustainable. I tend to get roughly 100 cards done in an hour, if someone can go faster props to them, but I can't focus like that.
Can these methods be applied for indo European languages like German etc Can someone tell me what method should use If wanna pass the gothe Plus also wanna be immersion Learner
How is he a record holder? I don't get it. I understood he reached JLPT N1 from zero in 1.5 years. However, at 12:54 he talks about what he did for the first two years. How does that add up? Thanks.
Watching more I guess it must be because this interview was done about a year after he passed the exam. He said he did 6,851 hours over 2.5 years. That's 7.5 hours on average daily. That is wild! What a discipline.
I've been immersing for like 8 months listening for 3 hours a day actively ...and i only have 300 hours total...how is this guy counting 6000 hours total...there is something going going on ... What is it? Somthing is not gppd on those calculations...my friend is also doing immersion and after 2 years he is made a total 1000. hours of active listening...and this guy is saying that he spent 6000 thousand in 1 and a half year??...is it me or whats going on here?
@@amcmillion3 10-12 active listning???? Thats impossible and even if it was the quality of the listening wound't be tat high because after 3 hours you get tired
Guys it looks like you've never done active listening at all....have you got an idea of what it means to give your fully active attention for 3 hours???? Believe it's A LOT! Imagine doing 10 hours! Of full attention. Everyday.. That's non sense, your eyes can't make it, your brain can't make it.......try it once instead of criticising
@k k and my point is that actively wtaching and listening for 10 hours a day like this guy says it's just a Utopia dont let them fool yourselves ....or try it for your self 10 hours a day LOL
10 is not doable but 3 as a maximum is a joke as well. I do 4 hours a day but I think my head would start spinning after 6, maybe 8 if I was going all out.
you should talk to James Scholz, he's a popular study streamer (like he streams himself studying for about 12 hours a day) and he says he does some variation of immersion learning for japanese
Great that you could get an interview with Stevijs! I intend to reach that level a bit slower than he did, but he's still an inspiration. One suggestion for these interviews: Make the way you ask your questions shorter/more focused. With almost all of your questions he would have been ready to start answering them after the first couple of seconds, one or two sentences, but you continued to make the question longer and longer, already give your own personal experience about the topic etc.
and here im sitting after one year immersionlearning afraid to touch a book. and now im struggeling about damn dragonball reading xD i probably be crap 1 year from now still xDi must do smth wrong loll
there is a guy that passed jlpt1 in 8 months with 180/180 score, so that's the record as far as I know, ojiiman passed it in 9 months too, anyway Steven is a monster but the title is missleading
I don't know if it counts as good but I reached mid N2 level after 4-5 months during the lockdown. At the beginning during the N5 N4 phase, I studied 100 new words and 3-4 Chapters from Minna no Nihongo each day. Starting the N3 phase I studied 50 new words and 50 kanjis every day and watching 3-5 Nihongo no Mori lessons. The average amount of time I spent actively studying each day was 6-7 hours as the number of review cards grew really high. After that my online classes started and I have been putting my Japanese on hold by learning only 5 new words a day and doing the reviews but still immersing myself in Japanese TH-cam videos. Its been around 250 days and now I can understand daily life Japanese to an intermediate level. I am a bit slow to catch speeches due to no practice partners. Seeing that Steven achieved N1 level in 1.5 years, I want to start actively learning Japanese again once my exams are over since I've been putting it on hold for quite a long time. I really wish that Migaku Browser Extension gets the recognition it deserves so that it will be released soon as the MPV plugin would really boost my learning. I would love to become a patreon but sadly I don't have the means of online payment over here. Its videos like these that give you the boost of motivation when you think you just hit a plateau. Thank you Steven and Migaku team.
@@baki9191 Not immersion. I follow a different approach where I take in massive input first before I start output. Basically I completed input equivalent of N2 with high retention in 4 months. I have moved on to the output stage where I now try to immerse myself more. I've been doing immersion for 7 months now and the massive input I received first has helped a ton in not needing to constantly look up grammar and vocabulary. Basically its a completely different approach that worked for me.
You have to let your guest speak. No need to jump in with a bunch of sounds. Also, stop drinking during your interviews. All we hear is you drinking. I enjoy your videos but want you to do better.
Yeah, I definitely agree. This conversation is intended as a casual chat that we both participate in, more than some proper interview but I do agree that there are some improvements to be made. Thanks for the feedback.
I was a little to harsh. I had headphones on and his drinking made me distracted. I do think good interviewers can ask the question and sit back. Be conscious of the "hhnmmm....aahh huuu..." There is no need to verbally agree with your guests. Thanks for doing the interview.
@The Frankiks I agree I was to harsh. Though, I don't distinguish between a chat and an interview. If I did, I think a chat is of two equals in which people are just talking about stuff. I think it's pretty clear this guy was getting interviewed.
This is ridiculous. Anybody can do anything with time. I learned 80 kanji over 1 weekend. But, since I have to work irl, I didn't have time to study that way for a while. But since I put 2 vacation days in a week recently, I now can get 240 kanji with on average missing about 8 for now. And that's just a few days. 3 to be exact, off 1 day, work 8-5 then next, then off. I don't know what this is did or his lifestyle, but mentioning a world record is absolutely stupid. If I didn't have to work a job, a month or 2 is all anyone needs.
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Always love to hear from Steven. Enjoyed the chat guys!
its like a hockey stick effect. enjoyed the video, would love more interviews with community members, keep up the great work!
Awesome interview, really impressive how fast he got the N1!
I really like that you said its more important to consolidate what you have already learned than to always be learning new words. I think I am around 15k known words (my morphman db got messed up when I installed migaku so I dont have any concrete metric to go off of) so I'm often having to resort to 0 star words and phrases if I want to add any new cards to my deck in a given day. Finding content that seems worth mining from can be sort of anxiety inducing at times. But lately Ive listened to more people talk about the benefits of extensive reading where you have like 98% comprehension and its made me think maybe relatively easy content is just as worthwhile. Lately Ive come to think about how seeing a word you know in an unfamiliar context is basically like learning a new word. And you really dont fully know a word until you have seen it used in various contexts and fully grasp what the sentence means. Hence the often repeated conundrum of "knowing" all the words in a sentence but not understanding what it means.
11:00 - this is a great tip ive heard no one talk about. I'll be happy to spread that knowledge drop
26:00 is pretty important for newer learners doubting them self, this guy is a beast and he still doubted up til 1 year!
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Damn I I did it in 1.7 years but this guy was even faster.
Big props dude I know how much effort it takes
How did you do it?
THE LEGEND dude just read and listen a lot. I see you everywhere asking how to learn and people give you a lot of detailed responses but you choose to ignore it.
I would love to know how many hours you had in the language.
@@georgeallen7487 When I started I felt like I had some basic vocab from immersion (mostly watching anime) but I'd never actually studied and I knew 0 kanji. By the time I took N1 I had around 600 hours on Anki. Unfortunately I didnt track my listening and reading stats but I must have done at least 4h daily minimum during that time.
To be fair I barely passed N1 so I wasn't at a level way above when I took the exam but I was still pretty proud of my accomplishment.
@@DarkMeister41 Interesting! How did you pass without kanji? I assume it used hiragana?
really good interview, thanks lads
This guy is really inspiration to me now. I tried to learn japanese a many years and never get it.
it's hard! me too
This guy is seriously impressive. What a machine!!! My only claim to fame is making fart videos....I wish i could learn like that.
😅
07:45
Me: "Write that down! Write that down!"
The most valuable part in this video. I was about to bookmark the same time tag haha
From what I've calculated he spent on average 8hrs a day on immersion. I wish I could do that, like quitting my job and just do immersion, all I can do is half that time for now.
Only half an hour in anki a day? How do you guys do your reps so damn fast? 18:45 I feel your pain.
He said when he was beginning it took him almost 2 hrs a day to anki. Once you do anki for a long time, you have less and less new words you encounter so less and less new cards. Much faster reviews.
@@ryanasher6390 plus he immerses a ton anyways so he sees a bunch of the kanji and words anyways, less to forget
@@ryanasher6390 I get that, but I'm talking about doing reps, not new card creation. I can do about 60-80 reps in half an hour if I get in a groove, maybe 90. But adding 25 cards or so a day snowballs fast.
To be fair, he didn't say how long he spent on reps alone early on, and when he said he spends half an hour daily on reps, he meant recently, where he's only adding 10 or less a day. Though he would he would have a pretty massive card bank by now, I'm not sure. I've heard of people doing well over a hundred daily, still with a half hour. Dunno how they do it 😅
@@bobfranklin2572 yeah, same man. Cards can go fast when you just see りんご=apple, but as you get on to verbs that don't have 1:1 translations it starts taking a lot longer. I recently turned my anki down to just 10 new cards a day so I can have time to actually use the language/read/listen to it and not just stare at cards over and over. The more new cards, the faster reviews just pile up and destroy me. I used to have more new cards a day, but would burn out and stop using my Japanese afterwards, and eventually have no new cards left because I wasn't immersing much, but have a gigantic backlog of reviews. Now I just try to keep it sustainable. I tend to get roughly 100 cards done in an hour, if someone can go faster props to them, but I can't focus like that.
The link to Steven’s channel doesn’t work on phone. What is his channel name so I can search it instead?
Stevijs 3
Me too, I am using my cellphone and facing the same issue.
anki + immersion =
transcendence
Forgetting to feed your pets
Can these methods be applied for indo European languages like German etc
Can someone tell me what method should use
If wanna pass the gothe Plus also wanna be immersion Learner
How is he a record holder? I don't get it. I understood he reached JLPT N1 from zero in 1.5 years. However, at 12:54 he talks about what he did for the first two years. How does that add up? Thanks.
Watching more I guess it must be because this interview was done about a year after he passed the exam. He said he did 6,851 hours over 2.5 years. That's 7.5 hours on average daily. That is wild! What a discipline.
How many hours did he study per day?
甲斐 is waiting...
This man is inspirational, thanks!
I think the record is 1 year by Chinese people who already know a lot of kanji. However they never put up videos on TH-cam.
I've been immersing for like 8 months listening for 3 hours a day actively ...and i only have 300 hours total...how is this guy counting 6000 hours total...there is something going going on ... What is it? Somthing is not gppd on those calculations...my friend is also doing immersion and after 2 years he is made a total 1000. hours of active listening...and this guy is saying that he spent 6000 thousand in 1 and a half year??...is it me or whats going on here?
10-12 hours per day
@@amcmillion3 10-12 active listning???? Thats impossible and even if it was the quality of the listening wound't be tat high because after 3 hours you get tired
Guys it looks like you've never done active listening at all....have you got an idea of what it means to give your fully active attention for 3 hours???? Believe it's A LOT! Imagine doing 10 hours! Of full attention. Everyday.. That's non sense, your eyes can't make it, your brain can't make it.......try it once instead of criticising
@k k and my point is that actively wtaching and listening for 10 hours a day like this guy says it's just a Utopia dont let them fool yourselves
....or try it for your self 10 hours a day LOL
10 is not doable but 3 as a maximum is a joke as well. I do 4 hours a day but I think my head would start spinning after 6, maybe 8 if I was going all out.
you should talk to James Scholz, he's a popular study streamer (like he streams himself studying for about 12 hours a day) and he says he does some variation of immersion learning for japanese
damn im 29. i need to step my game up
age of mythology was the shit back then
at least for me
BandMaid fan too!!!!
yo do we have the same logitech headset or is that something else lol
Great that you could get an interview with Stevijs! I intend to reach that level a bit slower than he did, but he's still an inspiration. One suggestion for these interviews: Make the way you ask your questions shorter/more focused. With almost all of your questions he would have been ready to start answering them after the first couple of seconds, one or two sentences, but you continued to make the question longer and longer, already give your own personal experience about the topic etc.
and here im sitting after one year immersionlearning afraid to touch a book. and now im struggeling about damn dragonball reading xD i probably be crap 1 year from now still xDi must do smth wrong loll
there is a guy that passed jlpt1 in 8 months with 180/180 score, so that's the record as far as I know, ojiiman passed it in 9 months too, anyway Steven is a monster but the title is missleading
this is 2 years old man, he was one of the best at that time
@@nfrankiksa4596 the guys Im talking about dit it more than 2 years ago
never would have pegged you as a non native speaker
Age of Mythology was such a good game. I wish that would come back.
i couldnt get into it. i love me some age of empires 2 tho
Related a lot to this, it's Parkinsons Law. Shame I don't have 6 hours a day to study though.
I don't know if it counts as good but I reached mid N2 level after 4-5 months during the lockdown. At the beginning during the N5 N4 phase, I studied 100 new words and 3-4 Chapters from Minna no Nihongo each day. Starting the N3 phase I studied 50 new words and 50 kanjis every day and watching 3-5 Nihongo no Mori lessons. The average amount of time I spent actively studying each day was 6-7 hours as the number of review cards grew really high. After that my online classes started and I have been putting my Japanese on hold by learning only 5 new words a day and doing the reviews but still immersing myself in Japanese TH-cam videos. Its been around 250 days and now I can understand daily life Japanese to an intermediate level. I am a bit slow to catch speeches due to no practice partners. Seeing that Steven achieved N1 level in 1.5 years, I want to start actively learning Japanese again once my exams are over since I've been putting it on hold for quite a long time. I really wish that Migaku Browser Extension gets the recognition it deserves so that it will be released soon as the MPV plugin would really boost my learning. I would love to become a patreon but sadly I don't have the means of online payment over here.
Its videos like these that give you the boost of motivation when you think you just hit a plateau. Thank you Steven and Migaku team.
Did u take the n2 test?
Not sure what you mean by N2 level, but if you mean you got over 1600 hours in immersion I call bullshit.
@@baki9191 Not immersion. I follow a different approach where I take in massive input first before I start output. Basically I completed input equivalent of N2 with high retention in 4 months. I have moved on to the output stage where I now try to immerse myself more. I've been doing immersion for 7 months now and the massive input I received first has helped a ton in not needing to constantly look up grammar and vocabulary. Basically its a completely different approach that worked for me.
lol, no you didn't.
@@baki9191 Everything in his comment is a lie.
You have to let your guest speak. No need to jump in with a bunch of sounds. Also, stop drinking during your interviews. All we hear is you drinking. I enjoy your videos but want you to do better.
Yeah, I definitely agree. This conversation is intended as a casual chat that we both participate in, more than some proper interview but I do agree that there are some improvements to be made. Thanks for the feedback.
I was a little to harsh. I had headphones on and his drinking made me distracted. I do think good interviewers can ask the question and sit back. Be conscious of the "hhnmmm....aahh huuu..." There is no need to verbally agree with your guests. Thanks for doing the interview.
@The Frankiks I agree I was to harsh. Though, I don't distinguish between a chat and an interview. If I did, I think a chat is of two equals in which people are just talking about stuff. I think it's pretty clear this guy was getting interviewed.
This dude's literally a robot...
Engineer.
German
DOITSU NO KAGAKU WA SEKAIICHI
@@Longjohnson2224 Du Hast Mesh
This is ridiculous. Anybody can do anything with time. I learned 80 kanji over 1 weekend. But, since I have to work irl, I didn't have time to study that way for a while. But since I put 2 vacation days in a week recently, I now can get 240 kanji with on average missing about 8 for now. And that's just a few days. 3 to be exact, off 1 day, work 8-5 then next, then off. I don't know what this is did or his lifestyle, but mentioning a world record is absolutely stupid. If I didn't have to work a job, a month or 2 is all anyone needs.
Well it's been 7 months I assume you're halfway there right