5 Reasons to NOT BUY a Garmin R50 & Why You Should

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  • @nbargolf
    @nbargolf หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Totally agree on the resolution. Should be 4k. I fact all your negatives are spot on.

  • @Rifleman0311
    @Rifleman0311 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The top 5 reasons to buy crushes the top 5 not to buy. Perfect for my needs. Buying it! Thanks for the review.

  • @RingoFreakingStarr
    @RingoFreakingStarr หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Biggest misses for me for this device is:
    - No way to control the screen via the Garmin app. Seems like a no brainer as having to bend down all the time to interface with the unit when it's common place to have input devices at standing level with other sims/units is the norm.
    - The product is in a pricing category that I think still didn't need to be explored. The marketplace is SCREAMING for a sub 2k optical unit that doesn't drag you down with limiting built-in features to a subscription. Now that the R10 and the R50 exists, I really really really hope Garmin comes out with a R25 that fits between their two products. I'm using an older Flightscope radar system and really want to upgrade to an optical system that works both indoors and outdoors so I'm a bit shit out of luck atm.

  • @nate19
    @nate19 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I think they are missing a big opportunity. They should let you play home tee hero using other devices for a subscription price. For all those people out there that have PCs already set up with another device, they could be selling their software. That's more income to spend on development and improvements.

    • @falcon328
      @falcon328 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I would totally sub to HTH to play my local courses. Even the R10 version

    • @nate19
      @nate19 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@falcon328 I think a very significant number of people would.

    • @CinemaSteve
      @CinemaSteve หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah I think that their current strategy will backfire at some point. You want to drive people to your $5000 unit because of what it does in one unit and it has HTH. But they're also cutting out 2 major demographics that would sub to HTH which is people who have a setup already or those who can't spend $5000 on just the unit itself and have a smaller budget.

  • @JerrySoCalx
    @JerrySoCalx หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I really hope home tee hero gets upgraded on all devices just pick up the price couple dollars such a great deal to keep the r10 users happy

  • @justinstephenson9360
    @justinstephenson9360 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Not sure about some of the negatives.
    1. No 4k resolution - would be nice but IMO not a big issue given that most people will not really see the difference
    2. Need for a gaming PC to use 3rd party software - what does a gaming pc have that no launch monitor has? A good quality GPU. That would add a lot of cost and the additional cooling requirement would add noise. If you want photo-realistic course simulation software then you will need a gaming PC for the foreseeable future.
    3. Adding course total yardage to HTH2 - small point but still a good one, not a game changer for me.
    4. Other game options in HTH2. This is a good point, if you regularly have mates around to have a fun night of golf it would be nice to change things up. So a bit of a miss but should be an easy software update
    5. More bluetooth functionality - not a game changer for me but a good point for improvement.
    The R50 is a fantastic device but is worth $1500+ more than, for example, Skytrack+?

    • @Tubezilla
      @Tubezilla หลายเดือนก่อน

      1: Garmin golf software is really poor. They put so little into updating errors or improving interfaces. Just look at any Garmin golf forum, nothing but feedback that's totally ignored for years.
      2: You still need a PC to use GSPro
      3: The output from the unit is not 4k
      4: Most importantly, it's not accurate. Spin and flight shape are way off.
      5: It's way too bulky vs GC3/QUAD. You'd look like a right tool pulling it out at a range.

  • @robouchard86
    @robouchard86 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can you make us a detailed video on what we can do with all the data supplied by the R50? Can we export the data to a spreadsheet? Can we create different sessions where ee could delete the bad shots to a proper AVg’s of the different fields? If all that data is there we should have access to it. Is there club gapping tool, like in some other softwares?

  • @tcofield1967
    @tcofield1967 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I agree that this could be a mild revolution in launch monitors although I’m sure other companies are looking closely at this and you probably will see a response from them through 2025.
    I your pros and cons are fair. I would probably put baseline cost as a negative. While you don’t have a computer with the R50 it is still a 5k unit so it will be a hefty price for most golfers. For the price you can get a Bushnell Launch Pro with club and ball data and a fairly good gaming laptop that can be used, well as a laptop.

  • @JeffWWhite51
    @JeffWWhite51 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hi Gabe! As you have logged extensive time with the R50 I have to ask…how is the unit handling short chip shots of 5-10 yards?
    Thanks and keep bringing out the great content Sir!

    • @LetsPlayThru
      @LetsPlayThru  21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Seemed very accurate to me

    • @JeffWWhite51
      @JeffWWhite51 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks!

  • @mpkelley20
    @mpkelley20 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    6th way it comes up short is because it’s so short. The backbreaking lean over to view and and adjust during gameplay will help chiropractors in the future. They need a telescoping screen.

    • @DurangoLegend
      @DurangoLegend หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's not that bad. I'm 6' and 66 years old and using the display is no issue. I have more issues with my back just playing golf than I do binding over to touch the screen.

    • @benjamintonin2150
      @benjamintonin2150 หลายเดือนก่อน

      a telescopic screen was the first thing that came to my mind. That would make this device ELITE

  • @glennwatson3313
    @glennwatson3313 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Its a bit expensive for me. I was saving for a $2000 devise but I might have to wait a bit longer and get this.

  • @rossmcneil228
    @rossmcneil228 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Like your Spey bay merch , great video too

    • @LetsPlayThru
      @LetsPlayThru  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you. Did you happen to buy an NFT?

  • @Blackcloud319
    @Blackcloud319 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Personally I think they killed themselves with a 5K price tag. It’s in a weird price point for people who want golf sims. I wanted the R50 at first, but after doing more research, I’ll just spend 1,500 more and get the Protee VX instead… seeing as you still need a gaming pc to run third party software anyways. Just a better option for my left handed friends that’ll come over lol.😉

  • @commonman317
    @commonman317 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gabe, you should do a video playing some holes on your home courses using the Garmin R50. I would be curious to know how accurate the representation would be. You know those Carrollwood courses inside and out.

    • @LetsPlayThru
      @LetsPlayThru  หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s a very good idea

  • @RaulRamis-q2o
    @RaulRamis-q2o หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gabe - curious, what are the specifications for the on board computer within the Garmin R50? I have not been able to find the specifications anywhere. I will say, I have been enjoying the R50 a lot!!

  • @mtplayer8421
    @mtplayer8421 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Could you use the HDMI output to plug into a TV instead of a projector?

  • @mikeh7203
    @mikeh7203 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Could you play with limed flight balls? Would it matter? Will it work as my indoor simulator space is limited to use real balls.

  • @OMG-2
    @OMG-2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Gabe, another good video. I have one question that hasn’t been answered anywhere. When playing home teehero is it possible for me to set a view that shows the entire flight of the ball from the players point of view? I really don’t want to be sitting behind the ball flying through the air and landing on the fairway somewhere I wanna be able to see the shot shape that resulted from my swing from where I stand the same way I would on the golf course. Is that possible on Home Tee Hero?

  • @allahalibaba9063
    @allahalibaba9063 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Gabe: You missed one major factor it falls short...You cannot set the lofts for each club...this makes it almost worthless for the range work....not all 7 irons etc at @ 31 loft, mine is 35 loft..See if you can contact garmin about this..I sent them a email, hope I hear from them and you..Great review...Ali

    • @LetsPlayThru
      @LetsPlayThru  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes that would be nice

    • @Evan_Rodgers
      @Evan_Rodgers หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LetsPlayThruthe golf app previously had loft information on clubs, I expect it will return.

    • @sloughdog
      @sloughdog หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LetsPlayThru thanks for the video, im new to simulators, could you tell me what else I would need to go with this ? thanks again

    • @DurangoLegend
      @DurangoLegend หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Not sure why you say this? It doesn't use the loft to calculate the ball flight or loft. It measures it as it leaves the club with the high speed camera. So all range data is accurate because it is measured not calculated. You can change the name of your club to Something P970 7i 35 if you want and it shows up in the display. Not sure why would you need loft?

  • @mlfpv7025
    @mlfpv7025 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4K resolution would have raised the price by a lot right now. It would make sense for this to be a hardware refresh at some point, however, Garmin's launch monitors have not shown any history of iterative hardware updates.

    • @LetsPlayThru
      @LetsPlayThru  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Genuine question, is it the components that raise the price?

    • @mlfpv7025
      @mlfpv7025 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, GPUs are so expensive right now and the it would create so much heat the entire design would have to change.

    • @DurangoLegend
      @DurangoLegend หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mlfpv7025 I bet this is an arm processor. You can easily get 4K output from an Arm processor. Apple has been doing it for years from their Apple TVs, iPads, and iPhones. It doesn't add a lot of heat and it can render 3D graphics in 4k for lots of games. It still couldn't run GSPro or E6 Apex. But it could output HTH in 4k.

    • @mlfpv7025
      @mlfpv7025 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ why doesn’t any sim software run on an arm processor then? Those sims are event doing the launch monitor part.

    • @DurangoLegend
      @DurangoLegend หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mlfpv7025 Sim software does run on the Arm processor. There is Awesome Golf and E6 connect both of which run on iPad, iPhone , or android. You don't need a lot of GPU strength anyway to run a 4K display. iPhones can output 4k to a display just fine. What you need a lot of GPU strength for is 3D rendering of a lot of detailed graphics. That is a different story. Now the new M4 max chips which are essentially arm processors designed by Apple, can actually outperform Nvidea RTX4080Super GPU cards. Using a fraction of the power and generating a lot less heat.

  • @alainjacob3841
    @alainjacob3841 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As I'm currently well endowed with a lauch monitor and have reached the point where I hate hitting balls and only play golf courses, I'm wondering if the 43,000 stipulated courses at St-Georges de Beauce and Beauceville in Quebec Canada are part of the inventory.
    This is the only condition that will allow me to acquire the Garmin R-50
    Thank You for the answer
    Alain Jacob

  • @michaelrambo4886
    @michaelrambo4886 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gabe it has BLE (Bluetooth low energy) not sure i have every used BLE but maybe some wireless keyboards or speakers can use this version of Bluetooth.

  • @tag_76
    @tag_76 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Will the Square Golf simulator be available on Play Better?

  • @mrow7598
    @mrow7598 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Frankly I would still want to hook up a tablet to run it than using their touch screen. What happens if the touch screen breaks? Now you're down 5k because the touchscreen is dead.

  • @craigbussell4998
    @craigbussell4998 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I bought one and just tried it for the first time. I don't know if I like it. I seem to hit the ball higher, further, and with more backspin outside compared to what just about any launch monitor reads. Maybe I'm just not good at hitting off of a mat. Home Tee Hero is cool because I can play courses I grew up on that I haven't played in decades. Although, having a 10% distance penalty out of the rough and a 20% distance penalty out of a fairway bunker is annoying. It would be nice if you could change those in the settings. Just not sure the physics makes a lot of sense. I hit a perfect 7 iron that released 20 yards on the green from the fairway... If I hit that shot in real life it ends up within a few feet where it comes down.

  • @brewster102
    @brewster102 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This can do a match with 2 or more players playing in sequence and keep track of everyone's score?

    • @LetsPlayThru
      @LetsPlayThru  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Currently it allows for 4 players, stroke play only. I assume we'll see more modes / games added in the future.

  • @jayprince9857
    @jayprince9857 หลายเดือนก่อน

    R50 or GC3 - what would you go for?

  • @alainjacob3841
    @alainjacob3841 หลายเดือนก่อน

    f the name of my golf club is in the Home Tee Hero list, I can automatically play my course at home. I want to be sure before I pay 7762 $ Canadian taxes included.
    Thank you for taking the time to reply
    Reply

  • @MarvinofMars
    @MarvinofMars หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Gybe as a camera based Unit the R50 is amazing and I am a great fan of the R10. But many reviewers are stressing you need a gaming PC for GS pro.
    Garmin made a massive error not offering the HTH 2.0 to the loyal R10 users.
    I have been a subscriber to Garmin since August 2022 R10 Launch, I'm afraid it will be Square golf for me next.
    My R10 will go to Awesome golf for data, on the range.

    • @DurangoLegend
      @DurangoLegend หลายเดือนก่อน

      They probably will before too long. I think it is a sales exclusive to the R50 but will probably be extended to an iPad or Android tablet in a year. I don't know that for fact but I can't see why they wouldn't once the initial sales of the R50 are made.

  • @WeAreMapuche
    @WeAreMapuche หลายเดือนก่อน

    For the third-party apps is a PC required comma or can iPad be used in conjunction with the R50, similar to the r10?

    • @DurangoLegend
      @DurangoLegend หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can use an iPad for E6 connect (once it is working as it isn't implemented yet but is planned). You can also use an iPad for Awesome Golf. I plan to try that with mine tomorrow as I think it is working now.

  • @petegalindez9961
    @petegalindez9961 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I purchased the R50 and am testing it now…one big drawback I’m finding is there is nowhere to review all your data except on the unit itself, or the phone app…you can’t review it on a desktop, iPad, Mac, etc…big bummer…

    • @LetsPlayThru
      @LetsPlayThru  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, I hope they can fix that soon. Should be an easy software update.

    • @petegalindez9961
      @petegalindez9961 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ I’m not so confident it’ll be updated any time soon….it was never changed during the R10 era…

  • @islandsnow
    @islandsnow หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    For me the r50 is 98% perfect except for the size and price. If they made it the size of the bushnell launch monitor and remove the large built in screen and give me the option to connect my own iPad it would be ideal. Then it eliminates the bending down problem since I can mount my iPad on a tripod. Take away the screen and make it smaller and price it around $3k and I’ll buy it immediately. Replace the big screen with a smaller one with important ball and club data points. I think to accommodate such a big screen is what forced them to make the overall unit that big

  • @petegalindez9961
    @petegalindez9961 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You may want to check your statement about not charging tax…Playbetter charged me sales tax…it’s required by law to charge tax where the person purchasing the item lives…

  • @llew1777
    @llew1777 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you hook it up to an iPad via Bluetooth or usb instead of hdmi (I’m a coach)

    • @DurangoLegend
      @DurangoLegend หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think you have to hook it up via usb or wifi (not sure about wifi). I am going to try it tomorrow and I can post back here how it works. Bluetooth is only for speaker output right now. Computers and iPads hook up via usb but I also heard that wifi can be used. All it does is send the ball and club data to the iPad which is running Awesome Golf or E6 connect iPad version. My understanding is that E6 connect is not working yet but coming soon.

    • @DurangoLegend
      @DurangoLegend หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      As it turns out you connect to the Garmin with iPad via Wifi. The Garmin sets up a hotspot and then you connect directly to that with the iPad. Works fine except I had issues with stuttering in the shot animation videos. I sent a report to Awesome Golf support so hopefully will hear back on what might be wrong. Having looked through their faqs page for Awesome Golf it looks like my problem might have been being connected to my internet while also being connected to the hotspot. I guess the Garmin maintains a connection to your network and Awesome Golf can see it on the network but Garmin wants to be connected via hot spot only not via network connection. Having both connected may have caused my stuttering issue with video.

    • @llew1777
      @llew1777 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ amazing thank you for letting me know

  • @Grantski2007
    @Grantski2007 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Huge miss on this is the fact you can’t play a round with a lefty and a righty

  • @johnkraus5454
    @johnkraus5454 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not the best option for lefty & righty players especially if using a projector. Not only do you have to move unit back & forth you may have issues with cord where projector plugs into unit. Also that sim software looks like 2004 Nintendo graphics compared to what's available from other vendors. For $3K I think it would be great. Not sure how many they sell at $5K. Prices continue to come down as more devices are available than ever before.

  • @heavylift47
    @heavylift47 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This thing is amazing, but I can't justify owning it. So if anyone is looking to buy an R50, hit me up in the comments.

  • @ncphenom2309
    @ncphenom2309 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I disagree on the misses. First the 4K option is irrelevant yes if you already have a 4K projector why not have the image in 4K but most people including you can’t tell the difference between 4K and a good bright 1080p image. You just can’t. I know you think you can and I am sure people are going to demand that they can but they can’t. Second on the built in gspro. If they did that it would be a nightmare. The system would cost at least 2k more and they would have to make it upgradable and the size of the unit would have to increase. Now can you do a compare on numbers with one of the other systems you have. No one is doing that yet.

  • @davedeboy5726
    @davedeboy5726 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In reality - these 5k units have a price increase of 250%. That's right. 250% profits. The smaller ones are about 40% profits. Yeah you still get ripped off but not as much.

  • @Evan_Rodgers
    @Evan_Rodgers หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Garmin is working on adding course yardages to the tee selection screen. it will come in a future update.
    Re: connecting peripherals, you can use literally all of the same existing peripherals like a Roxor box for GSPro, E6, etc when connected wirelessly to a PC. It’s extremely disingenuous to even mention it as a negative bc 95% of LM cannot connect to any other device except a PC. The R50 will be compatible with the Garmin golf app so you will be able to use a tablet or phone.

    • @joelbrown4110
      @joelbrown4110 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think most LM's can connect to iPhone and iPad, which can then screen share with most modern TV's and projectors. I have 2 different LM's and E6 in on all my portable devices.

    • @Evan_Rodgers
      @Evan_Rodgers หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@joelbrown4110 the R50 is or will be compatible with the E6 iPad app. It will not lose any functionality of the R10

  • @HaroldHermes-w6g
    @HaroldHermes-w6g หลายเดือนก่อน

    Garmin should sack their product development manager.

  • @theweekendhack
    @theweekendhack 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wtf gabe. Get on ozempic my guy????

  • @chezchezchezchez
    @chezchezchezchez หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Real simulator golf"
    HAHAHAHAHA

  • @dddmmm21
    @dddmmm21 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would buy it for $3.5K.

  • @DaveFogel
    @DaveFogel หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Have to disagree with taking it to the range. Range balls are garbage and you wont be hitting anywhere near what you would hit with a real ball. So not sure of the point of doing that.

    • @ncphenom2309
      @ncphenom2309 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are dead on with this. Range is only good to warm up and even then you should only pay attention to the first 30-50 yards of the shot. But if it is nice out it is fun just to go and hit balls and then why not bring this thing out. Plus my buddy’s cc uses prov1’s so I’d take it there. lol.

    • @Evan_Rodgers
      @Evan_Rodgers หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Some of us are members at courses with real range balls 😏

    • @DaveFogel
      @DaveFogel หลายเดือนก่อน

      @Evan_Rodgers you think a real range ball that is hit 1000 times a day, for months, is going to perform like a new prov1?

    • @ncphenom2309
      @ncphenom2309 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DaveFogel most of the CC’s using prov1’s replace them quite regularly. Part of the reason people pay 80-100k to have a membership there. My buddies replaces there every 4-6 weeks. And they only have 200 members.

    • @seansaca
      @seansaca หลายเดือนก่อน

      I thought most monitors had range ball compensation

  • @qmccahonlax31
    @qmccahonlax31 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The impact vision looks super low quality for some reason

    • @LetsPlayThru
      @LetsPlayThru  หลายเดือนก่อน

      A bit grainy. But I’d say pretty on par with Uneekor and Apogee. None of them are crystal clear.

  • @Tubezilla
    @Tubezilla หลายเดือนก่อน

    Compare it to the GCQUAD or Trackman.
    These videos are pointless otherwise

    • @LetsPlayThru
      @LetsPlayThru  หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Did you not watch the video where I compared it with the GC quad and it wouldn’t read the shots? This comment is pointless.

    • @Tubezilla
      @Tubezilla หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LetsPlayThru Do you think Garmin built it so it interferes with foresight and trackman to prevent head to heads? Do you know will two gcquads work side by side? Surely a trackman would work as it's not close to it?

    • @LetsPlayThru
      @LetsPlayThru  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ def not purposefully. Doppler device like Trackman should work. I plan on trying it.

    • @bigboots6114
      @bigboots6114 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      nobody gives a crap what you think

  • @michaelrambo4886
    @michaelrambo4886 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gabe it has BLE (Bluetooth low energy) not sure i have every used BLE but maybe some wireless keyboards or speakers can use this version of Bluetooth.