THANK YOU im glad someone can see further than the shallow optics of "buff scholar". i mean, the comparison is what got me into star rail in the first place, but i'm glad that discussion is being had. i also wonder, one of ratio's defining characteristics is the fact that he wasn't gazed upon by nous (due, most likely by his belief that knowledge is for everyone and his pursuit to raise the floor and allow access for all), do you think alhaitham _could_ be chosen by nous if he were in star rail? he certainly has the intelligence and self centeredness for it. idk something i've been thinking about
Being tired of the excessive buff scholar comparisons is why I was inspired to make this video! Also that’s a really interesting question about nous, I think I agree that he fits the standard a lot better than ratio. I’ll have to think about that more.
do you think alhaitham could be chosen by nous if he were in star rail? Alhaitham has no ambition to be something more than he is, and he has no ambition to be recongnized for his intellect. He got his vision, and he kept it in a box, because he literally had no use for it. :) So even if he was chosen by nous, he porobably wouldn't care about it. Just like he didn;t really care when he got his vision, or when he was chosen to be the next Grand Sage. He also has no ambition for sharing his knowledge. He will do it if specifically was asked by one of the people he considers to be close with (Collei, Paimon) but he doesn't go out of his way to 'spread' knowledge.
Huh. This was actually a very interesting analisis. Tho Alhaitham does put emphasis on the concept of 'truth' just like Ratio. Alhaitham does not make compromises regarding the 'truth' and he is considered an annoying/rude character because of this. He is not faraid to challenege/offend people to tell the truth, even tho he rarely goes out of his way todo so (regardless it happens very often) This is why Alhaitham and Kaveh went their separate ways. Alhaitham did offend Kaveh pretty much with the truth.
Ahhh, love this! Weirdly enough back when I was taking gr 11 philosophy (around when Kaveh came out), my way of remembering the differences between Aristotle and Plato was to think of Aristotle as Al-Haitham and Plato as like Kaveh in their beliefs. Exciting to see that I'm not the only one in this comparison!
Being honest here, their similarities is what made me gain interest in HSR once again. But once I heard his voice and a glance at his personality at the 1.6 special program and the 1.6 update came I KNEW THEY WERE NOTHING ALIKE. Yet, I still fell in love with him the same way I fell for Alhaitham. (I disliked their personalities first but my curiosity of their characters is what made me fell in love with them as a whole) And I had always had this feeling after I finished 1.6 quest that this two, are very similar, but wouldn't get along if they had to make a project together 😂
I think the biggest difference between Alhaitham and Ratio is that Al is a scholar, and Ratio is an educator. While Al is in pursuit of knowledge, Ratio has already reached the pinnacle of knowledge and plans to spread it.
Thanks! I do see a lot of Eastern philosophy’s influences, but admittedly my knowledge of these philosophies is not as solid yet. I hope to work toward covering that eventually tho, a discussion centric video could work for a topic I’m not quite as familiar with!
Am i the only one who never even considered alhaitham and ratio's similarities- to me they always seemed pretty vastly different in personality but idk 😭
I loved the analysis of this video between both characters, it was pretty interesting!! learned a lot from it, and I do like Dr. Ratio more, he seems more friendly than Alhaitham
WHY DOES THIS VIDEO ONLY HAS 800 VIEWS? this is so interesting. i feel like this video was made for me, you put into words exactly what i was thinking when people started to compare them
okie i have to sub cuz ur educational AND funny. amazing analysis of things, although it felt a bit fast... but its also 1 am where im at so maybe im just a tad bit too tired rn to follow as quickly as i should be able to 😅
many thanks! and I appreciate the feedback, defiantly not just a you thing, taking things to quickly is one of my greatest weaknesses, definitely something I'm working on! Sorry my reply to this comment took so long :)
@@dorsalfinlive don't even worry about, after rewatching this (cuz it's just that good) and being awake enough for once, I was defo ae keep up this time so it all good 🥰👍💯💯💯
they are different at the bare minimum of the fact that alhaitham in genshin represents one male non playable character with signature silver with slight highlights hair, they are like raiden ei and raiden mei while dr ration has different looks. I have no idea why people starting obsessing over the comparison which doesn't make much of a canonical sense because so far all the "copies" from different worlds like otto and luocha LOOK very similar. himekos too. ratio can dye his hair of course but isn't that copium?)
The Clouds mention? *Click* Side note: I had a lecture about Aristotle earlier this morning and in it, Aristotle says that the highest level of happiness deals with contemplation (but it also needs to be practical)
THANK YOU im glad someone can see further than the shallow optics of "buff scholar". i mean, the comparison is what got me into star rail in the first place, but i'm glad that discussion is being had. i also wonder, one of ratio's defining characteristics is the fact that he wasn't gazed upon by nous (due, most likely by his belief that knowledge is for everyone and his pursuit to raise the floor and allow access for all), do you think alhaitham _could_ be chosen by nous if he were in star rail? he certainly has the intelligence and self centeredness for it. idk something i've been thinking about
Being tired of the excessive buff scholar comparisons is why I was inspired to make this video! Also that’s a really interesting question about nous, I think I agree that he fits the standard a lot better than ratio. I’ll have to think about that more.
Being chosen by Nous is not about being smart it's about pursuing a science without any care for anything else.
do you think alhaitham could be chosen by nous if he were in star rail?
Alhaitham has no ambition to be something more than he is, and he has no ambition to be recongnized for his intellect. He got his vision, and he kept it in a box, because he literally had no use for it. :) So even if he was chosen by nous, he porobably wouldn't care about it. Just like he didn;t really care when he got his vision, or when he was chosen to be the next Grand Sage.
He also has no ambition for sharing his knowledge. He will do it if specifically was asked by one of the people he considers to be close with (Collei, Paimon) but he doesn't go out of his way to 'spread' knowledge.
Huh. This was actually a very interesting analisis.
Tho Alhaitham does put emphasis on the concept of 'truth' just like Ratio. Alhaitham does not make compromises regarding the 'truth' and he is considered an annoying/rude character because of this. He is not faraid to challenege/offend people to tell the truth, even tho he rarely goes out of his way todo so (regardless it happens very often)
This is why Alhaitham and Kaveh went their separate ways. Alhaitham did offend Kaveh pretty much with the truth.
Ahhh, love this! Weirdly enough back when I was taking gr 11 philosophy (around when Kaveh came out), my way of remembering the differences between Aristotle and Plato was to think of Aristotle as Al-Haitham and Plato as like Kaveh in their beliefs. Exciting to see that I'm not the only one in this comparison!
Omg I love that sm! They are literally Aristotle and Plato and I may die on that hill.
Being honest here, their similarities is what made me gain interest in HSR once again. But once I heard his voice and a glance at his personality at the 1.6 special program and the 1.6 update came I KNEW THEY WERE NOTHING ALIKE. Yet, I still fell in love with him the same way I fell for Alhaitham. (I disliked their personalities first but my curiosity of their characters is what made me fell in love with them as a whole)
And I had always had this feeling after I finished 1.6 quest that this two, are very similar, but wouldn't get along if they had to make a project together 😂
That’s totally fair, i get why people do see them as similar as well!
I think the biggest difference between Alhaitham and Ratio is that Al is a scholar, and Ratio is an educator. While Al is in pursuit of knowledge, Ratio has already reached the pinnacle of knowledge and plans to spread it.
That sounds like a fair analysis
I always thought of Ratio as my personal Socrates: sometimes annoying, but also truth revealer and nice overall.
Very good video 👍 I did see a lot of similarities between the two but I personally think dr ratio is more distinct than althiethem personality wise
I’m glad you enjoyed it! I agree very similar but also very different
Pretty good video. I only wish it were longer. These characters are very interesting. Looking forward to your covering Eastern Philosophy in Genshin.
Thanks! I do see a lot of Eastern philosophy’s influences, but admittedly my knowledge of these philosophies is not as solid yet. I hope to work toward covering that eventually tho, a discussion centric video could work for a topic I’m not quite as familiar with!
Am i the only one who never even considered alhaitham and ratio's similarities- to me they always seemed pretty vastly different in personality but idk 😭
I loved the analysis of this video between both characters, it was pretty interesting!! learned a lot from it, and I do like Dr. Ratio more, he seems more friendly than Alhaitham
Ahhh I’m glad you enjoyed!
THIS IS SO GOOD WHATTT
Thanks :)
WHY DOES THIS VIDEO ONLY HAS 800 VIEWS? this is so interesting. i feel like this video was made for me, you put into words exactly what i was thinking when people started to compare them
I’m glad you enjoyed it!
Loved your video! I completely agree with your points about both characters! Honestly I love them both for different reasons!
thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
say it louder.. SAY IT LOUDER!!
They're not the same even though both are scholars. I prefer Alhaitham's personality much more than Dr. Ratio.
I’m glad to see that others find their personalities distinct!
I found this video really interesting! It's certainly a take and a perspective I haven't seen form anyone else so that's cool. :)
okie i have to sub cuz ur educational AND funny. amazing analysis of things, although it felt a bit fast... but its also 1 am where im at so maybe im just a tad bit too tired rn to follow as quickly as i should be able to 😅
many thanks! and I appreciate the feedback, defiantly not just a you thing, taking things to quickly is one of my greatest weaknesses, definitely something I'm working on! Sorry my reply to this comment took so long :)
@@dorsalfinlive don't even worry about, after rewatching this (cuz it's just that good) and being awake enough for once, I was defo ae keep up this time so it all good 🥰👍💯💯💯
Hey i enjoyed your analysis and I also enjoy Dr ratio's naked armpit
Lmao
ANOTHER CORRECT TAKE FROM DORSALFIN1
THANK YOU right I wish people would stop mischaracterising ratio to fit into the stereotypes of alhaithem and vice versa
I tend to have a lot of unpopular opinions about character comparisons so it’s always nice to see others agree :)
they are different at the bare minimum of the fact that alhaitham in genshin represents one male non playable character with signature silver with slight highlights hair, they are like raiden ei and raiden mei while dr ration has different looks. I have no idea why people starting obsessing over the comparison which doesn't make much of a canonical sense because so far all the "copies" from different worlds like otto and luocha LOOK very similar. himekos too. ratio can dye his hair of course but isn't that copium?)
i think i had a stroke reading this
The Clouds mention? *Click*
Side note: I had a lecture about Aristotle earlier this morning and in it, Aristotle says that the highest level of happiness deals with contemplation (but it also needs to be practical)
Hell yeah! Hope you enjoyed the Aristotle lecture!
what is the background song at 1:02?
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sorry this reply took years
Was distracted the whole time by the hot men, but really interesting analysis!
Glad you got something out of this
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i really dont like al haitham but im okay abt ratio.. seing them compared constantly angers the demons in me....
I’m glad u appreciated the video! Hopefully it managed to exorcise some of the demons in you :))
I honestly love both men ♡♡♡
Yes! They are not the same because clearly Dr. Ratio is a better character period
Their the oppersite
I found this video too late lol. Reason why I compared the two is because of ships 😅. Ratio with Aventurine and Alhaitham with Kaveh.
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I am pretty sure thats a joke? Did it really need an entire video?
Yes
@@dorsalfinlive They are the same though lol