@@Mystic_Magirano Yeah kinda. But i believe that if he went MUI after growing stronger, he'd be even stronger than in TUI if that makes sense. So if he went MUI at the last moment in Gas fight he'd be massively stronger for a second but he'd cap his growth again. Hope that makes sense
Goku couldnt compose himself and keep calm,MUI transformation is dogwater if you dont have the right temperment and heart,TUI allowed him to use his emotions and saiyan nature alongside being able to reap some of the benefits of UI (of course,TUI is a precusor to MUI,so the benfits of UI arent that potent)which allowed him to get stronger through using his emotions as a force of power rather than to just add to the dumptruck of emotions by forcing himself to stay calm. It had nothing to do with goku getting stronger,its just the conditions to use MUI to its full extent are very restrictive and its nigh impossible for a saiyan like goku to keep their heart calm in the heat of battle.So he used TUI as a way HE COULD UTILISE HIS EMOTIONS RATHER THEN MAKE THEM MORE INTENSE BY FORCING HIMSELF TO BE CALM YET IT DOESNT WORK TO NO AVAIL,MAKING MUI BECOME LESS POTENT AT THE TIME.
Uio is the same as that, In TOP "Uio" used rage/anger, remember the first fight, when he screamed when fighting against Jiren, knee'd him or something before that long ass punch, he was clearly using emotion there, all these names were made by fans, they are NOT official.
UI sign is like a base form. If Goku keeps his heart calm- MUI If Goku is using his emotions- TUI It’s like SSJ and Mastered SSJ You don’t need to constantly be angry to maintain the form once mastered. Whereas normal SSJ, you do have to run on raw emotion the whole way.
@@angelodugarte9649 The closest thing to compare it to is Base form. A standard form/ transformation. TUI is the same as SSJ to a t, a power that forces the Saiyan to use his emotions as a way to get stronger. MUI is the mastered version of SSJ having a calm heart but still maintaining the power, having an increase in power to be honest. UI sign is like the Base form / Broly ikari/ great ape, it’s just the saiyans base form, but upgraded. We see nothing changes with Goku, his hair, and aura remain similar and his demeanour doesn’t change much. Mastered SSJ> SSJ> Base MUI> TUI> UI sign
@@georgie545 kinda weird to compare those transformations like that(considering that one needs anger and the other one needs calmness). Also, most of the statements that you are sharing are not really specified in the manga or even implied or even said, like the UI being like a better base form, UI is a technique meaning that you can use it in base, which already makes the base form better, so I would treat it as what it is a transformation that is close to achieve a even better transformation(MUI)
@@angelodugarte9649 Goku shows he can use UI omen in his other forms as well. So it’s not a form in itself. And I just used those forms as a foundation, because it follows the same rules. 1 normal, 1 emotional, 1 calm.
Ultra instinct was teased before revival of F. It was teased during Battle of Gods during Goku’s fight with Beerus when his body instinctively moved back from beerus after charging into attack
Ok let me cook: ui is like the first character that you get when you start playing the game its weak have no abilities tui is like that og or your best character that you know playing with and you all the ability to win mui is like that op or broken character in the game its the strongest but you don't know to use it
All the form are: -Omen UI (TOP arc) -MUI (TOP arc/start of Moro arc) -PUI (final of Moro arc/start of Granolah arc) -TUI (final of Granolaah&Gas arc/to now) The diff between any form can be seen in the characteristics where some limited by mind aspect & others not.Omen is the less efficient as it almost only in defense the others are Both attack and defense
@sauciine it does, but as stated by whis, UI Sign has more of a drawback because it's unstable. MUI while I. Perfect conditions seems to last longer as we saw with MUI vs Moro
Ultra instinct was originally hinted at on king kais planet when Goku fought beerus. He is in super Saiyan 3 form, attacks beerus but jumps back. I believe Goku says something about his body protecting him. This is the anime, I have not read those chapters of the manga
8:24 It's true ultra instinct to Goku because it's his own variation of the form that allows him to use his emotions with ultra instinct instead of being calm so basically TUI is an inferior version of Mastered ultra instinct were he can use his emotions instead of being calm
I just wanna point out this is a great video. And I definitely love the analytical breakdown. Many fans confuse Omen for True. That couldn’t be further from the truth. So they look identical one in the same they are two entirely different forms. This is showcased by the difference in how each variation of Goku with an ultra instinct fight in comparison especially these two looking very similar but moving reacting very differently. Especially fighting. It’s like the reverse of what Gohan fans try to say bout Gohan in the Buu arc. They lied and say Gohan’s in a transformed state. When really he was just in his base form. Omen is essentially a power up also a transformed state but it is the base form of the mastered version of ultra instinct. The indicator of a saying being in a transform state must have two out of three requirements fulfilled. 1) Eye color change. 2) Hair Color change. 3) Aura color change. In the Buu Arc Gohan’s eye color or reg, hair color reg, and aura color is regular white, just like The Earthling Z fighters. Sometimes we can be tracked, such as the Kaio-Ken technique. Goku‘s hair color is the same but his eyecolor and his aura color look different. But that’s just a concept of dramatic visualization for epic fighting scenes. I think that’s something they have corrected overtime technically Goku‘s eyes aren’t supposed to change color but I think it was a concept from the manga introduced into the anime which was corrected over time. Ultra Instinct Omen Goku: Eye color Grey. Aura Color White & Blue. Hair color Black. Goku has 2/3 for transformation requirement.
TUI is simply the best for Goku because the whole point of the arc was trying to get Goku to learn his own form of Ultra Instinct. Thus, it allows Goku to still use his instincts and his mind and his emotions. I have a feeling he will stack super saiyan with Ultra Instinct Omen for his own form of UI.
3:10 this is where you made a mistake it only allows goku to dodge without thought but not to attack when he masters ultra instinct that allows him to use both offensive and defensive sides of ultra instinct cos in ui sign he still had to think
@@raiden8991 but in the anime I think I remember goku or someone stating that he still had to think before he attacked but his power increased by then so his attacks still hit hard
@@raiden8991 yes although he learned to willingly harness the power of ultra instinct sign I'm still not sure If he automatically could *attack* without thinking
Tui/Uio is "his own version" of ultra instinct, as he explained it allows him to use his emotions without getting nerfed, this is so goku can use it all the time, almost like turn it into his new base form, maybe its a technique and not a form which would make a lot of sense, but it's not supposed to be his strongest, Mui however is, it if Tui/Uio is a technique then mui may as well be an actual "form", just like how goku can't use super saiyan forever it would be the same for Mui, he's not expected to always keep his heart calm, only when needed, much like every other form he has.
You got the images for True Ultra Instinct and Ultra Instinct sign mixed up. Also was Goku in uncalm MUI state or in just MUI state then when he fought Jiren?
Ultra Instinct -Omen-; Precursor to "Perfected Ultra Instinct" Perfected Ultra Instinct; Ultra Instinct in it's purest form. True Ultra Instinct; Goku's iteration of Ultra Instinct (Ultra Instinct -Omen- after Goku makes the form his own)
Good question, no. You gotta look up these terms and not just use one dictionary source but use multiple dictionary sources to get a great grass and understanding of the concept of these terms of these words and what they genuinely mean. It is essentially like this Mastered Super Saiyan Goku (Cell Arc) = Master Ultra Instinct Goku. Mastered Super Saiyan Goku (Buu Arc) = Perfected Ultra Instinct Goku. What is the difference between these two States Of Being? They have different terms in relation to having different levels of power. Separated by seven years worth of training. SSJ Mastered Goku (Cell Games) & SSJ Mastered Goku (Buu Arc) One is far stronger. And has higher levels of power to tap in to beyond the SSJ level. The difference between mastered ultra instinct and perfected ultra instinct would be the difference of thousands of years creating a massive power gap. One could never hope to catch up to the other. These terms also represent, which level Goku is at the difference from the anime, and the manga. The Anime will most likely follow the manga, in which the manga has surpassed the anime. I hope I helped. 🙏🏿
6:17 The terms mastered ultra instinct and perfected ultra instinct are 100% correct. What you failed to realize is these terms are applied to the level of power and state of being Goku is while remaining in said Angelic form. For example The Kaio-Ken has 20 different levels of power. Ultra Instinct Omen represents Kaio-Ken x1 - Kaio-Ken x9. Mastered Ultra Instinct Represents Kaio-Ken x10 - Kaio-Ken x20. Perfected Ultra Instinct represents Kaio-Ken x50 & up. True Ultra Instinct is higher than Mastered but Lower than Perfected. Let’s say M.U.I. Goku is 100. P.U.I Goku is 1,000. According to the Angels Perfected Ultra Instinct Goku (Morro Arc) is 150. But the Angels have 10,000 different levels of Ultra Instinct both Omen & Mastered. Goku’s has only completed and or mastered two of the lowest level cycles. In an order for the Angels to truly see Goku as formidable he hast to reach the level 1,000 instead of 150. This does not downplay Goku’s immense power level as well as transform state or state of being in the format of the level of ultra instinct mastery and or perfection he has attained or the lack thereof such as omen. Or true ultra instinct. This just makes him weaker than all of the angels. Personally we all know Goku surpassed a teenager angel by the name of Merus. Essentially what I am doing my best to say is until Goku has perfected and mastered all the levels that are within different realms of power of ultra instinct. He will be a monster to mortals but he will be the weakest or of the weakest in comparison to the angels. I want to make it abundantly clear, these numbers are not true and are not important, what is important is that the numbers represent the concept of higher realms of power in which the hierarchy of angelic power is represented. Perhaps ultra instinct has 100,000 levels within it. That means Goku has that much further to reach to attain Elite level power among the Angels. If you were to be the weakest angel out of the hierarchy of themselves and angelic power, you were solo all the gods of destruction all of the mortals of all universe is and every other being within the encompass of that hierarchy. It is essentially a never ending journey to reach higher levels of power. Which connects back to there always be someone else stronger than you. Maybe not maybe there won’t always be someone else stronger than you. But the reason why that catchphrase is so important is that you never lose your work ethic to be stronger even if you are the strongest or even when you reach the epitome of power. For example all the Z fighters represent different levels or stages of perfection. And even though they’ve reached mastered different levels of power aka perfect, there are still higher levels of perfection (power) they can attain. The grand priest could represent level 90,000 out of 100,000 in the hierarchy of angelic power ultra instinct. So even if he is the strongest, that doesn’t mean he reached the final stage of angelic power even though he is the closest to the final stage of angelic power, if that makes sense. 🙏🏿
you are asserting a bunch of garbage into something that just isnt there lol? "TUI" does not exist, its just the sign/omen form used In a different manner, it is not a different stage all together🤦🏽♂ everything In this comment is head canon, not based on official material or anything of that sort, therefore deserves to get ignored, plus points for creativity on your end tho
I think in that one part in the second opening when he is fighting jiren and uses kaioken maybe that’s another variation of ui but with more power. Like he uses kaioken mixed with ui off screen to increase his base power and break the restraints of ui. Whis stated to him that he must find his own version of ui no one ever said it couldn’t be offensive It’s a possiblity and would make sense in a way before testing ui since it’s the closest thing to base form. Just saying I think they hinted it in the part of the opening 2
7:50 Nope, Tui was still stronger then the Mui in the granolah arc, because he surpassed gas who have beaten both MUI Goku and UE Vegeta It wasn’t necessarily because "he couldn’t fight for longer and gets knocked out" It was because Tui Goku beats Gas, Gas powers up again and totally beats and stomps Tui Goku And his Susano was his only technique that can overpowered gas which Mui didn’t accomplished When talking about Goku going mui against Gohan he also did went to Tui against Black Frieza Beerus and whis confirmed that Goku’s "ultra instinct" was his strongest, which could refer to either mui or ui in general
So in garnolah arc Tui>mui And Currently in (chap 103) Mui>Tui Which means mui is the strongest form of Ui which maybe a bit risky So gokus tui cuz of a more reliable form for fighting but if needs to go all out he has his trump card which is mui😊
So guys in a weird Mastered ultra instinct is the actual True ultra instinct I'm not saying TUI is a bad form I actually like it a lot but facts are facts
so your saying TUI might be the way to go to see stronger forms out of goku? like combining ssjb with it and maybe even kaioken. That would be really taxing on the body though.
This has already been debated so many times, so first UIO is not needed since TUI and MUI are better but MUI and TUI have been debated for long so in my summary, TUI was more efficient in the battle since goku needed to use UI but not drain as much energy as MUI, in short TUI was better in the situation but in other terms MUI is better.
MUI with and uncalm heart seems to be equal to negative ssjbe/ssjb20. Sign seems to be even below that. TUI is the only transformation that is equal /above ssjkk20/ssjbe. The power of MUI has been reduced to Omen of the TOP because of the retcon
Yeah, we definitely need to re-standardize the names it's getting ridiculous. UIO and MUI shouldn't change(except to maybe call MUI CUI for Complete but it doesn't "look" as good), but the middle one can't be called "true" since that's literally a misnomer. I like your EUI, but SUI would also work since it's, essentially, a Saiyan-specific form. Aesthetically, my favorite is UIO. That aura was peak and the white hair wasn't necessary.
Beerus is the strongest of Gods, he has no choice but to be, his entire point in the story is to push Goku to new heights. The true UI means true to Goku because Whis stated that Goku is gonna get anywhere copying him, they’re different life forms, Goku has to find his own version of UI, “you have to listen to the voice in your heart” Whis to Goku before he awakens TUI Great video by the way
@@GuyVickin the manga there’s a tournament of free for all for the G.O.D and beerus (beerus even have a small knowledge of UI) and the rat god is the last man standing
Problem is the manga completely contradicts this. Whis: "This form isn't suited for you, find another way" Whis later: "Oh I guess it is better then" 🥴
Reread the top manga version all the way to granolah one thing i noticed Mui in top is just mui like moro arc except it's takes a toll on his body cause he didn't train enough to wield the technique properly from whis dialogue Moro arc mui is just mui from top but no draw back like stamina issues or couldn't wield the form properly like top manga cause he train enough to use and wield mui with no problems And granolah arc mui goku couldn't suppress his emotions so he get weaker rather than have stamina issues or couldn't maintain the technique properly like top
Tui is no different than super vegeta or super trunks. Its suboptimal but risks something for a big gain. In this case, goku sacrifices some of the divine properties of ultra instinct for more power no different than trunks sacrifcing speed for more power Ui is like ssj1 Tui is like Grade 2/3 Mui is like ssj 2 The big difference here is goku's lack of knowledge of furthering his power down the UI route since its inheritley weilded by indifferent beings (difficult for an emotional being to adapt)
We all know where this is going.... After his fight with Berus in Super Saiyan God form Goku developed his own version of it where he could channel God ki but his hair would not turn red. It was most definitely weaker than Super Saiyan God form but he was able to go Super Saiyan on top of it to become Super Saiyan Blue which was stronger than Super Saiyan God. And even before that , way back in the early days of dragon ball, before he turned into Super Saiyan for the first he turned into something we now know as Pseudo Super Saiyan. Then too his hair had not changed colour and pseudo Super Saiyan was not as strong as Super Saiyan. If this trend is followed then I think Goku is going to transform into Super Saiyan in Ultra Instinct form and become Ultra Pro Max Super Saiyan or something like that. It is only possible with True Ultra Instinct because it allows Goku to feel emotions and he can use his rage and passion to trigger the super Saiyan transformation. Mastered Ultra Instinct will become similar to Super Saiyan 3, powerful but never used by Goku because of the toll that it takes on his body.
Tui is above Mui since goku cant even last that long in mui to begin with and theres a major strength difference. Even ui omen at the end of the moro arc is far stronger than Mui.
@@Sands9887 thats still like saying that grade 4 ssj in the buu arc is stronger than grade 4 ssj in the cell tui is essentially a variation of omen and omen is not reaching mui heights
People need to understand that the strongest form ≠ most efficient form. TUI was much more efficient in Goku’s battles against Gas than the other forms, that’s the reason why at the time it was deemed the better form to use.
Fr people have had this problem since the cell arc with super saiyan grade 3 it doesn't natter how strong it is if its not usable for the situation mui is the strongest for but it cant be maintained properly at the moment
why doesn't goku combine the white hair UI with super saiyan blue? would make him far stronger than the likes of beast gohan and broly. Hell he might even match Black Frieza
Because there's a difference between Ultra Instinct as a form and Ultra Instinct as a technique. The form can't be combined with other forms. But rather, the closer Goku transforms into Ultra Instinct itself, the more accurately his body can react and fight on instinct.
@noirsgaming8800 yeah but two different forms can be stacked right? Not forms like ssj1 and ssj 2, but forms that are fundamentally different like sjj god and ssj
its cuz he literally cant yet, he doesnt even have full control over PUI so adding lets say Blue on top of it is basically adding kaioken x20 to a saiyan saga goku.
He has done we are talking about 2 different thing ultra instinct is a technique and when he reaches deep into the technique he gets a transformation , goku can't stack forms but he can stack a technique onto a form and he has used ultra instinct with blue it just isn't on the lvl of fully going ultra instinct
TUI will eventualy became more powerful as the story progress compare to MUI specialy MUI is not really suited for saiyans and we all know goku is a smart fighter like on the cell saga he can turn into super saiyan grade 3 but he sees that it has alot of drawbacks like MUI so goku will train the TUI instead of MUI
Bro TUI is just omen even Toyotaro has confirmed it, and Goku is literally focusing on polishing the use of MUI properly, I can't believe how people are comparing it with a concept of ssj grade 2 just because of the stamina issues, the only reason why he never wanted to use that form is because not only it's inefficient but it also sacrifices your speed for more strength, MUI on the other hand is faster and wayy stronger than it's precursor known as UI omen or TUI (which is what "fans" call it), the drawbacks only come if Goku's not able to keep his heart calm. Also, in dragon ball an incomplete form is never stronger than it's complete version.
@@raiden8991 "MUI on the other hand is faster and wayy stronger than it's precursor known as UI omen or TUI" he showed the total opposit again gas also tui and ui dont even have the principle'the drawback dont even exist in the manga).
@@sc-1918 you didn't even read the Manga properly, he flat out told Gas that in order for his silver haired form to work properly he needs to keep his heart calm and tranquil and Gas asked Goku why he wasn't using the silver haired since that was stronger form which is why Goku decided to use omen instead because there he doesn't need to control his emotions, and in the last pages of Manga itself there are scans which say MUI is the Ultimate Form and Goku's strongest UI variant, in CH 102 Beerus and Whis themselves confirmed PUI is Goku's strongest form, atleast watch the whole video before commenting. The drawback clearly existed for omen as well buddy, which is why he couldn't even maintain the incomplete form properly after using his emotions, While he was Fighting Gas.
@@raiden8991 @raiden8991 you the omen still require calm right, the whole propose of his training with merus was to controle it and when he was focusing on strengh instand of dodging both merus and whis where saying that he was less efficient which shouldnt be the case since "they are the same form". Many time in the arc whis was saying that goku should find his own ui was one of the main focus of this arc so what's narrative the point of that if the form not suited for him endup being the strongest? The chapter 102 go totaly again you logic i dont get why you are trying to use it goku was clearly showing emotions(and a lot) again gohan also ui, pui, tui and mui are name used by the fandom the character just call it ui. Now the reason he didn't use tui again gohan is because the reason why he manage awake it in the first place, the saiyan's spride , the desire to win no matter what he got tui after understand it applying to his ui thats why gas those kind of flash about bardock when he saw goku (even vegeta was refering it as an evolution) again gohan he himself said that he wasnt trying to win .
@@sc-1918 wrong the who purpose of his training with merus was to learn how to willingly tap into Perfected UI (Silver hair). After the very end of that dialogue whis also told Goku that he should keep the silver haired version as a final Trump card because that's where he was use UI at it's full potential, UI sign and PUI are names officially used in the Manga so re read it lil bro?? PUI is the strongest because not only it's the ultimate form because it's completed UI and what Goku used against Gas was the precursor UI sign which is still the inefficient incomplete form, The only reason why PUI looked weak in his fight with Gas is because he wasn't able to keep his heart calm which is the reason why the form was nerfed in that arc, but at the end when Goku reawakened UI the right way he completely overpowered Gas and threw him into space with his ki avatar, stop lying Vegeta never referred to it as an evolution he mocked it by saying "is this how he's supposed to fight in UI? How absurd". You're completely ignoring the words of Toyotaro himself, he literally said "the form Goku used against Gas was nothing more than UI sign". Also the Manga panel is literally displayed in this video where Goku tells Gohan to kick things off with their final forms, so watch the whole video before arguing lol.
I mean as of now mui has been made to work sort of like the equivalent of ssj3 on dbz while tui is ssj2 and just using ui without going into a form is ssj
So many contradictions in DB unfortunately. During TOP, Jiren attacks the Universe 7 spectators on purpose, Goku loses his shit, powers up in MUI and kicks Jiren’s ass. Technically he should have been dropping out of MUI since it requires a calm state 😂
@@abdelatifhooty-ob5kp dont tell me u are saying this due to the beast gohan thing, Piccolo would still win? evolved vegeta fought a worn down gohan, and we really dont know if he used ego off screen, its just a dumb moment toyotaro perhaps even forgot ego existed. either way piccolo is Implied to be close to Gohan as he spars with him regularly, and we know how quick piccolo can grow when training with others so its entirely possible
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the only reason why TUI Goku was needed was because Goku could not grow stronger in MUI at the time.
In other words His mui couldn't get the job done so he meditated and evolved his UIO further. Hmm 🤔
lol bruh both of y’all are right when you think about it
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@@Mystic_Magirano Yeah kinda. But i believe that if he went MUI after growing stronger, he'd be even stronger than in TUI if that makes sense. So if he went MUI at the last moment in Gas fight he'd be massively stronger for a second but he'd cap his growth again. Hope that makes sense
Goku couldnt compose himself and keep calm,MUI transformation is dogwater if you dont have the right temperment and heart,TUI allowed him to use his emotions and saiyan nature alongside being able to reap some of the benefits of UI (of course,TUI is a precusor to MUI,so the benfits of UI arent that potent)which allowed him to get stronger through using his emotions as a force of power rather than to just add to the dumptruck of emotions by forcing himself to stay calm.
It had nothing to do with goku getting stronger,its just the conditions to use MUI to its full extent are very restrictive and its nigh impossible for a saiyan like goku to keep their heart calm in the heat of battle.So he used TUI as a way HE COULD UTILISE HIS EMOTIONS RATHER THEN MAKE THEM MORE INTENSE BY FORCING HIMSELF TO BE CALM YET IT DOESNT WORK TO NO AVAIL,MAKING MUI BECOME LESS POTENT AT THE TIME.
TUI in the SIMPLEST terms is literally just UI Omen… But you can use emotions
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@@AndyLeeVlogsmui is better cuz in it you can auto dodge if you don't think but not in tui
Gokus tui is stronger than ui omen because of this.
Uio is the same as that, In TOP "Uio" used rage/anger, remember the first fight, when he screamed when fighting against Jiren, knee'd him or something before that long ass punch, he was clearly using emotion there, all these names were made by fans, they are NOT official.
@@TheGeniusJanUncensored See exactly this right here is why im confused as to why they even call it True UI
UI sign is like a base form.
If Goku keeps his heart calm- MUI
If Goku is using his emotions- TUI
It’s like SSJ and Mastered SSJ
You don’t need to constantly be angry to maintain the form once mastered. Whereas normal SSJ, you do have to run on raw emotion the whole way.
That is the best way to interpret it, well done 👍🏽
But ui sign is a transformation varied from ui
@@angelodugarte9649 The closest thing to compare it to is Base form. A standard form/ transformation.
TUI is the same as SSJ to a t, a power that forces the Saiyan to use his emotions as a way to get stronger.
MUI is the mastered version of SSJ having a calm heart but still maintaining the power, having an increase in power to be honest.
UI sign is like the Base form / Broly ikari/ great ape, it’s just the saiyans base form, but upgraded. We see nothing changes with Goku, his hair, and aura remain similar and his demeanour doesn’t change much.
Mastered SSJ> SSJ> Base
MUI> TUI> UI sign
@@georgie545 kinda weird to compare those transformations like that(considering that one needs anger and the other one needs calmness). Also, most of the statements that you are sharing are not really specified in the manga or even implied or even said, like the UI being like a better base form, UI is a technique meaning that you can use it in base, which already makes the base form better, so I would treat it as what it is a transformation that is close to achieve a even better transformation(MUI)
@@angelodugarte9649 Goku shows he can use UI omen in his other forms as well. So it’s not a form in itself.
And I just used those forms as a foundation, because it follows the same rules. 1 normal, 1 emotional, 1 calm.
When Goku told Jiren "Consider this your bad Omen"
I started crying🤧
They’re all good but MUI is the OG
First but last
its not tho
UIO is the OG, and the best looking
Technically UIO is the og but MUI is better and better looking
Fr white hair goku is bad ass
Ultra instinct was teased before revival of F. It was teased during Battle of Gods during Goku’s fight with Beerus when his body instinctively moved back from beerus after charging into attack
No that was Goku sensing Beerus’ intent to kill him knowing he wasn’t anywhere near strong enough
@Omeganuts24 which is essentially a precursor to UI.
Reaction without thought.
Ssj3 right
@@Omeganuts24people really be repeating what other mfs say like its the same thing 😂
Ok let me cook: ui is like the first character that you get when you start playing the game its weak have no abilities tui is like that og or your best character that you know playing with and you all the ability to win mui is like that op or broken character in the game its the strongest but you don't know to use it
Ye
That is really a good representation of
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u def cooked
Bro cooked and served
All the form are:
-Omen UI (TOP arc)
-MUI (TOP arc/start of Moro arc)
-PUI (final of Moro arc/start of Granolah arc)
-TUI (final of Granolaah&Gas arc/to now)
The diff between any form can be seen in the characteristics where some limited by mind aspect & others not.Omen is the less efficient as it almost only in defense the others are Both attack and defense
sui stands for susano ultra instinct
@@LavJunior5 there is not Sui Even if I understand what you mean it’s an extension of the PUI
Mui is stronger, tui was just better for goku as it's easier to use and has no drawbacks
It has drawbacks. It's still the incomplete form of MUI. Thus, the strain on Gokus stamina remains. Gokus stated this as well.
to be fair all the ultra instinct forms including mui have stamina issues
@sauciine it does, but as stated by whis, UI Sign has more of a drawback because it's unstable. MUI while I. Perfect conditions seems to last longer as we saw with MUI vs Moro
@@rafi_sensei5421 Tui is better for goku, mui is stronger in general
@@sauciine they don't, it just uses so much stamina it's difficult for a mortal to maintain
Tui should not even be a another version of ui if the main concept of ui is to be in a calm state. Like they completly forgot that they made ui SIGN
When has ui sign emotions
Manga version in top is interesting bc it it ties in everything goku learned
Ultra instinct was originally hinted at on king kais planet when Goku fought beerus. He is in super Saiyan 3 form, attacks beerus but jumps back. I believe Goku says something about his body protecting him. This is the anime, I have not read those chapters of the manga
8:24 It's true ultra instinct to Goku because it's his own variation of the form that allows him to use his emotions with ultra instinct instead of being calm so basically TUI is an inferior version of Mastered ultra instinct were he can use his emotions instead of being calm
I just wanna point out this is a great video. And I definitely love the analytical breakdown. Many fans confuse Omen for True. That couldn’t be further from the truth. So they look identical one in the same they are two entirely different forms. This is showcased by the difference in how each variation of Goku with an ultra instinct fight in comparison especially these two looking very similar but moving reacting very differently. Especially fighting.
It’s like the reverse of what Gohan fans try to say bout Gohan in the Buu arc. They lied and say Gohan’s in a transformed state. When really he was just in his base form. Omen is essentially a power up also a transformed state but it is the base form of the mastered version of ultra instinct.
The indicator of a saying being in a transform state must have two out of three requirements fulfilled. 1) Eye color change. 2) Hair Color change. 3) Aura color change. In the Buu Arc Gohan’s eye color or reg, hair color reg, and aura color is regular white, just like The Earthling Z fighters.
Sometimes we can be tracked, such as the Kaio-Ken technique. Goku‘s hair color is the same but his eyecolor and his aura color look different. But that’s just a concept of dramatic visualization for epic fighting scenes. I think that’s something they have corrected overtime technically Goku‘s eyes aren’t supposed to change color but I think it was a concept from the manga introduced into the anime which was corrected over time.
Ultra Instinct Omen Goku: Eye color Grey. Aura Color White & Blue. Hair color Black. Goku has 2/3 for transformation requirement.
TUI is simply the best for Goku because the whole point of the arc was trying to get Goku to learn his own form of Ultra Instinct. Thus, it allows Goku to still use his instincts and his mind and his emotions. I have a feeling he will stack super saiyan with Ultra Instinct Omen for his own form of UI.
He already did that
@@Devin_ontop its Just using the Instincts Part only when he used it against Granolah. Its not actually Stacking UI Omen with Super Saiyan.
Bro had to make a sequel 👍
3:10 this is where you made a mistake it only allows goku to dodge without thought but not to attack when he masters ultra instinct that allows him to use both offensive and defensive sides of ultra instinct cos in ui sign he still had to think
Wrong, UI sign did both as the series progressed Goku was damaging Moro before he absorbed 73.
@@raiden8991 but in the anime I think I remember goku or someone stating that he still had to think before he attacked but his power increased by then so his attacks still hit hard
@@Elite_editz702 That was only when his body wasn't even properly trained to Weild it properly, by Moro arc Goku learnt to willingly tap into UI.
@@raiden8991 yes although he learned to willingly harness the power of ultra instinct sign I'm still not sure If he automatically could *attack* without thinking
But maybe I just don't fully understand it yet
Love your content! Thanks For this ❤❤❤
Tui/Uio is "his own version" of ultra instinct, as he explained it allows him to use his emotions without getting nerfed, this is so goku can use it all the time, almost like turn it into his new base form, maybe its a technique and not a form which would make a lot of sense, but it's not supposed to be his strongest, Mui however is, it if Tui/Uio is a technique then mui may as well be an actual "form", just like how goku can't use super saiyan forever it would be the same for Mui, he's not expected to always keep his heart calm, only when needed, much like every other form he has.
MUI is the strongest but Omen is my favorite, his dodging is just so badass and so much better looking tbh
You got the images for True Ultra Instinct and Ultra Instinct sign mixed up. Also was Goku in uncalm MUI state or in just MUI state then when he fought Jiren?
Ultra Instinct -Omen-; Precursor to "Perfected Ultra Instinct"
Perfected Ultra Instinct; Ultra Instinct in it's purest form.
True Ultra Instinct; Goku's iteration of Ultra Instinct (Ultra Instinct -Omen- after Goku makes the form his own)
Is mui and perfected ultra instinct the same
Did you even watch the Video 💀
@@Humblerbg777 no one finsihed the vid when this comment was made
@@goofyrbx-uv7vo I did 🗿
Good question, no. You gotta look up these terms and not just use one dictionary source but use multiple dictionary sources to get a great grass and understanding of the concept of these terms of these words and what they genuinely mean.
It is essentially like this Mastered Super Saiyan Goku (Cell Arc) = Master Ultra Instinct Goku. Mastered Super Saiyan Goku (Buu Arc) = Perfected Ultra Instinct Goku.
What is the difference between these two States Of Being? They have different terms in relation to having different levels of power. Separated by seven years worth of training.
SSJ Mastered Goku (Cell Games) & SSJ Mastered Goku (Buu Arc) One is far stronger. And has higher levels of power to tap in to beyond the SSJ level.
The difference between mastered ultra instinct and perfected ultra instinct would be the difference of thousands of years creating a massive power gap. One could never hope to catch up to the other.
These terms also represent, which level Goku is at the difference from the anime, and the manga. The Anime will most likely follow the manga, in which the manga has surpassed the anime. I hope I helped. 🙏🏿
@@jordanglasper1064 🤣🤣🤣 "MUI and PUI" theory 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
1:03 Ui was actually teased during the Ss3 Goku vs Beerus fight, rookie mistake but it's okay lil bro
Lmao
Correction. It was actually teased during the jeice and burter fight with goku back in z. But its ok lil bro people make mistakes.
@@sinner2548correctionrection. It was actually teased during Kid Goku’s fight with Mr Popo. But it’s okay lil bro, we all make mistakes
@@AlexHammered lol ok you got me.
@@AlexHammered missed opportunity to say "correctionerection"
6:17 The terms mastered ultra instinct and perfected ultra instinct are 100% correct. What you failed to realize is these terms are applied to the level of power and state of being Goku is while remaining in said Angelic form.
For example The Kaio-Ken has 20 different levels of power. Ultra Instinct Omen represents Kaio-Ken x1 - Kaio-Ken x9. Mastered Ultra Instinct Represents Kaio-Ken x10 - Kaio-Ken x20. Perfected Ultra Instinct represents Kaio-Ken x50 & up. True Ultra Instinct is higher than Mastered but Lower than Perfected.
Let’s say M.U.I. Goku is 100. P.U.I Goku is 1,000. According to the Angels Perfected Ultra Instinct Goku (Morro Arc) is 150. But the Angels have 10,000 different levels of Ultra Instinct both Omen & Mastered. Goku’s has only completed and or mastered two of the lowest level cycles. In an order for the Angels to truly see Goku as formidable he hast to reach the level 1,000 instead of 150. This does not downplay Goku’s immense power level as well as transform state or state of being in the format of the level of ultra instinct mastery and or perfection he has attained or the lack thereof such as omen. Or true ultra instinct. This just makes him weaker than all of the angels. Personally we all know Goku surpassed a teenager angel by the name of Merus. Essentially what I am doing my best to say is until Goku has perfected and mastered all the levels that are within different realms of power of ultra instinct. He will be a monster to mortals but he will be the weakest or of the weakest in comparison to the angels. I want to make it abundantly clear, these numbers are not true and are not important, what is important is that the numbers represent the concept of higher realms of power in which the hierarchy of angelic power is represented.
Perhaps ultra instinct has 100,000 levels within it. That means Goku has that much further to reach to attain Elite level power among the Angels. If you were to be the weakest angel out of the hierarchy of themselves and angelic power, you were solo all the gods of destruction all of the mortals of all universe is and every other being within the encompass of that hierarchy. It is essentially a never ending journey to reach higher levels of power. Which connects back to there always be someone else stronger than you. Maybe not maybe there won’t always be someone else stronger than you. But the reason why that catchphrase is so important is that you never lose your work ethic to be stronger even if you are the strongest or even when you reach the epitome of power.
For example all the Z fighters represent different levels or stages of perfection. And even though they’ve reached mastered different levels of power aka perfect, there are still higher levels of perfection (power) they can attain. The grand priest could represent level 90,000 out of 100,000 in the hierarchy of angelic power ultra instinct. So even if he is the strongest, that doesn’t mean he reached the final stage of angelic power even though he is the closest to the final stage of angelic power, if that makes sense. 🙏🏿
@@jordanglasper1064 whats ur discord?
Bro made up rules that do not exist.
True Ultra Instinct isn’t even a real thing, he was using omen, it’s the same thing.
you are asserting a bunch of garbage into something that just isnt there lol? "TUI" does not exist, its just the sign/omen form used In a different manner, it is not a different stage all together🤦🏽♂
everything In this comment is head canon, not based on official material or anything of that sort, therefore deserves to get ignored, plus points for creativity on your end tho
thats pure headcanon
I think in that one part in the second opening when he is fighting jiren and uses kaioken maybe that’s another variation of ui but with more power. Like he uses kaioken mixed with ui off screen to increase his base power and break the restraints of ui. Whis stated to him that he must find his own version of ui no one ever said it couldn’t be offensive It’s a possiblity and would make sense in a way before testing ui since it’s the closest thing to base form. Just saying I think they hinted it in the part of the opening 2
7:50 Nope, Tui was still stronger then the Mui in the granolah arc, because he surpassed gas who have beaten both MUI Goku and UE Vegeta
It wasn’t necessarily because "he couldn’t fight for longer and gets knocked out"
It was because Tui Goku beats Gas, Gas powers up again and totally beats and stomps Tui Goku
And his Susano was his only technique that can overpowered gas which Mui didn’t accomplished
When talking about Goku going mui against Gohan he also did went to Tui against Black Frieza
Beerus and whis confirmed that Goku’s "ultra instinct" was his strongest, which could refer to either mui or ui in general
I think Goku hasn't used UI instinct in the fullest, It is like driving a car, but it's not that good
So in garnolah arc
Tui>mui
And
Currently in (chap 103)
Mui>Tui
Which means mui is the strongest form of Ui which maybe a bit risky
So gokus tui cuz of a more reliable form for fighting but if needs to go all out he has his trump card which is mui😊
Nice one
So guys in a weird Mastered ultra instinct is the actual True ultra instinct I'm not saying TUI is a bad form I actually like it a lot but facts are facts
Basically Ui omen < Tui < Mui
What's the bgm?? it sounds Soo epic
bruce falc DBZ music!
@@AventSir which ones specifically are used for the vid?? If it's not too much to ask
so your saying TUI might be the way to go to see stronger forms out of goku? like combining ssjb with it and maybe even kaioken. That would be really taxing on the body though.
None of Goku fights were more immersive or as impressive than his fight in mui against jiren. That was the essence of UI in its purist form
Bro who needs so many User Interface variations anyway?
No one could beat the “can he beat goku tho” so he started fighting himself lol
If really think about it all of us have ui in irl in a sense that we can fight or do stuff with thinking if we do it enough and master it
So basically TUI is weaker than MUI but it can be more effective sometimes due to emotion and his saiyan race
This has already been debated so many times, so first UIO is not needed since TUI and MUI are better but MUI and TUI have been debated for long so in my summary, TUI was more efficient in the battle since goku needed to use UI but not drain as much energy as MUI, in short TUI was better in the situation but in other terms MUI is better.
MUI with and uncalm heart seems to be equal to negative ssjbe/ssjb20. Sign seems to be even below that. TUI is the only transformation that is equal /above ssjkk20/ssjbe. The power of MUI has been reduced to Omen of the TOP because of the retcon
Yeah, we definitely need to re-standardize the names it's getting ridiculous. UIO and MUI shouldn't change(except to maybe call MUI CUI for Complete but it doesn't "look" as good), but the middle one can't be called "true" since that's literally a misnomer. I like your EUI, but SUI would also work since it's, essentially, a Saiyan-specific form.
Aesthetically, my favorite is UIO. That aura was peak and the white hair wasn't necessary.
I was here in the first one where it can'te be heard
Okay
Beerus is the strongest of Gods, he has no choice but to be, his entire point in the story is to push Goku to new heights.
The true UI means true to Goku because Whis stated that Goku is gonna get anywhere copying him, they’re different life forms, Goku has to find his own version of UI, “you have to listen to the voice in your heart” Whis to Goku before he awakens TUI
Great video by the way
He’s not the strongest God, they aren’t even ranked
@@GuyVickin the manga there’s a tournament of free for all for the G.O.D and beerus (beerus even have a small knowledge of UI) and the rat god is the last man standing
Well i just wanna see him go super saiyan in ultra instinct form a mix of gold and silver
It can be called SUI or SI saiyan ultra instinct or saiyan instinct
Pleaseeeee. Switch ‘MUI’ with ‘TUI’ in the video title. It’s making my brain go ahhhh because it doesn’t match with the thumbnail lmao
Mastered Ultra Instinct is a fan term it's just called Ultra Instinct in the anime
If we go by the dub in a display of original dbz dub levl of stupid they call it autonom ui
Problem is the manga completely contradicts this. Whis: "This form isn't suited for you, find another way" Whis later: "Oh I guess it is better then" 🥴
Under perfect conditions for Goku. MUI is vastly superior to TUI.
When he cant remain calm, TUI is superior to a nerfed MUI.
Let’s not forget the people of Vardrat
I like the sound of Primal Ultra Instinct or Primal Instinct; PUI, PI.
Reread the top manga version all the way to granolah one thing i noticed
Mui in top is just mui like moro arc except it's takes a toll on his body cause he didn't train enough to wield the technique properly from whis dialogue
Moro arc mui is just mui from top but no draw back like stamina issues or couldn't wield the form properly like top manga cause he train enough to use and wield mui with no problems
And granolah arc mui goku couldn't suppress his emotions so he get weaker rather than have stamina issues or couldn't maintain the technique properly like top
11:10 He is
You still haven't touched on his primal Ultra Instinct form and his newly discovered Angelic Ultra Instinct form
Tui is no different than super vegeta or super trunks. Its suboptimal but risks something for a big gain.
In this case, goku sacrifices some of the divine properties of ultra instinct for more power no different than trunks sacrifcing speed for more power
Ui is like ssj1
Tui is like Grade 2/3
Mui is like ssj 2
The big difference here is goku's lack of knowledge of furthering his power down the UI route since its inheritley weilded by indifferent beings (difficult for an emotional being to adapt)
We all know where this is going....
After his fight with Berus in Super Saiyan God form Goku developed his own version of it where he could channel God ki but his hair would not turn red. It was most definitely weaker than Super Saiyan God form but he was able to go Super Saiyan on top of it to become Super Saiyan Blue which was stronger than Super Saiyan God. And even before that , way back in the early days of dragon ball, before he turned into Super Saiyan for the first he turned into something we now know as Pseudo Super Saiyan. Then too his hair had not changed colour and pseudo Super Saiyan was not as strong as Super Saiyan. If this trend is followed then I think Goku is going to transform into Super Saiyan in Ultra Instinct form and become Ultra Pro Max Super Saiyan or something like that. It is only possible with True Ultra Instinct because it allows Goku to feel emotions and he can use his rage and passion to trigger the super Saiyan transformation. Mastered Ultra Instinct will become similar to Super Saiyan 3, powerful but never used by Goku because of the toll that it takes on his body.
Of course base aka his black hair has to be the weakest and the white haired form is the strongest …
the name confuses you because you don't use the original name and prefer the localized name
Whats the meaning of TUI?
True ultra inst as in goku's true inst
Mines from weak to strong=UIO,TUI,MUI and PUI
Pui Pui:
@@uncanaldejuegos7056 Pui Pui is Stronger than Black Frieza. thats why he is so Powerful in DBL's Dragon Ball: Pui Pui April Fools Event.
Tui is above Mui since goku cant even last that long in mui to begin with and theres a major strength difference. Even ui omen at the end of the moro arc is far stronger than Mui.
@@Sands9887 thats still like saying that grade 4 ssj in the buu arc is stronger than grade 4 ssj in the cell tui is essentially a variation of omen and omen is not reaching mui heights
@@agssilv5919 you're talking about mui here, aka the one time we actually see mui is in the top arc💀 Tui is literally clapping mui and pui slaps both.
People need to understand that the strongest form ≠ most efficient form. TUI was much more efficient in Goku’s battles against Gas than the other forms, that’s the reason why at the time it was deemed the better form to use.
Fr people have had this problem since the cell arc with super saiyan grade 3 it doesn't natter how strong it is if its not usable for the situation mui is the strongest for but it cant be maintained properly at the moment
crazy thing is all 3 of those names are wrong, its ultra instinct sign and ultra instinct, everything else is fanmade names
I fw the fact that he can’t maintain ultra instinct for too long bc he’s a natural born crashout🤣😭
Ok so basically it’s like this:
Mui: golden pickaxe
Tui: diamond pickaxe
Uio: iron pickaxe
MUI will always be the best since avoing getting hit is more important than defeating your opponent.
CHAPTER 39????? HOW MUCH FILLER DID THE SUPER ANIME HAVE?
Drink whenever you hear “ultra instinct”
Think of tui as ssj and mui as masteree ssj, thats the eaiset way to think about it
UIO - Cooler
MUI - Stronger
TUI - Easier to use
They should just call silver form mastered incomplete ui
TUI and ui sign are the same form. Also it’s sign not omen
why doesn't goku combine the white hair UI with super saiyan blue? would make him far stronger than the likes of beast gohan and broly. Hell he might even match Black Frieza
Because there's a difference between Ultra Instinct as a form and Ultra Instinct as a technique. The form can't be combined with other forms. But rather, the closer Goku transforms into Ultra Instinct itself, the more accurately his body can react and fight on instinct.
@noirsgaming8800 yeah but two different forms can be stacked right? Not forms like ssj1 and ssj 2, but forms that are fundamentally different like sjj god and ssj
its cuz he literally cant yet, he doesnt even have full control over PUI so adding lets say Blue on top of it is basically adding kaioken x20 to a saiyan saga goku.
@@Sands9887 makes sense
He has done we are talking about 2 different thing ultra instinct is a technique and when he reaches deep into the technique he gets a transformation , goku can't stack forms but he can stack a technique onto a form and he has used ultra instinct with blue it just isn't on the lvl of fully going ultra instinct
But beerus and whis was not there when goku used tui
Thought UIO was autonomous ultra instinct
It is it’s just not mastered
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@@TheN1tty what
@@DarkAce-w8f 🙂↕️🙂↕️
@@DarkAce-w8f he's nodding his head
TUI will eventualy became more powerful as the story progress compare to MUI specialy MUI is not really suited for saiyans and we all know goku is a smart fighter like on the cell saga he can turn into super saiyan grade 3 but he sees that it has alot of drawbacks like MUI so goku will train the TUI instead of MUI
Bro TUI is just omen even Toyotaro has confirmed it, and Goku is literally focusing on polishing the use of MUI properly, I can't believe how people are comparing it with a concept of ssj grade 2 just because of the stamina issues, the only reason why he never wanted to use that form is because not only it's inefficient but it also sacrifices your speed for more strength, MUI on the other hand is faster and wayy stronger than it's precursor known as UI omen or TUI (which is what "fans" call it), the drawbacks only come if Goku's not able to keep his heart calm. Also, in dragon ball an incomplete form is never stronger than it's complete version.
@@raiden8991 "MUI on the other hand is faster and wayy stronger than it's precursor known as UI omen or TUI" he showed the total opposit again gas also tui and ui dont even have the principle'the drawback dont even exist in the manga).
@@sc-1918 you didn't even read the Manga properly, he flat out told Gas that in order for his silver haired form to work properly he needs to keep his heart calm and tranquil and Gas asked Goku why he wasn't using the silver haired since that was stronger form which is why Goku decided to use omen instead because there he doesn't need to control his emotions, and in the last pages of Manga itself there are scans which say MUI is the Ultimate Form and Goku's strongest UI variant, in CH 102 Beerus and Whis themselves confirmed PUI is Goku's strongest form, atleast watch the whole video before commenting.
The drawback clearly existed for omen as well buddy, which is why he couldn't even maintain the incomplete form properly after using his emotions, While he was Fighting Gas.
@@raiden8991 @raiden8991 you the omen still require calm right, the whole propose of his training with merus was to controle it and when he was focusing on strengh instand of dodging both merus and whis where saying that he was less efficient which shouldnt be the case since "they are the same form". Many time in the arc whis was saying that goku should find his own ui was one of the main focus of this arc so what's narrative the point of that if the form not suited for him endup being the strongest? The chapter 102 go totaly again you logic i dont get why you are trying to use it goku was clearly showing emotions(and a lot) again gohan also ui, pui, tui and mui are name used by the fandom the character just call it ui. Now the reason he didn't use tui again gohan is because the reason why he manage awake it in the first place, the saiyan's spride , the desire to win no matter what he got tui after understand it applying to his ui thats why gas those kind of flash about bardock when he saw goku (even vegeta was refering it as an evolution) again gohan he himself said that he wasnt trying to win .
@@sc-1918 wrong the who purpose of his training with merus was to learn how to willingly tap into Perfected UI (Silver hair). After the very end of that dialogue whis also told Goku that he should keep the silver haired version as a final Trump card because that's where he was use UI at it's full potential, UI sign and PUI are names officially used in the Manga so re read it lil bro?? PUI is the strongest because not only it's the ultimate form because it's completed UI and what Goku used against Gas was the precursor UI sign which is still the inefficient incomplete form, The only reason why PUI looked weak in his fight with Gas is because he wasn't able to keep his heart calm which is the reason why the form was nerfed in that arc, but at the end when Goku reawakened UI the right way he completely overpowered Gas and threw him into space with his ki avatar, stop lying Vegeta never referred to it as an evolution he mocked it by saying "is this how he's supposed to fight in UI? How absurd". You're completely ignoring the words of Toyotaro himself, he literally said "the form Goku used against Gas was nothing more than UI sign". Also the Manga panel is literally displayed in this video where Goku tells Gohan to kick things off with their final forms, so watch the whole video before arguing lol.
Mui(peak)>TUi(Peak)>Omen (Peak)
Real
TUI only exists because the writers screwed up and had to dial things back a little bit with the power scaling
I mean as of now mui has been made to work sort of like the equivalent of ssj3 on dbz while tui is ssj2 and just using ui without going into a form is ssj
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6 views in 2 minutes? Man you fell off
Its simple tui meaning true ultra instinct not tmui meaning not true mastered ultra instinct meaning mui is over tui its just a variation of ui
No way bro just tried to say roshi has ui 💀
We ain’t jus gonna graze over Goku having a UI susano’o. Wtf?!
Exactly😅
UI Sign is the worst. UI is only better than TUI Sign in certain contexts. At both forms' hypothetical peaks, UI is ultimately the superior form
ui > tui which is ui sign with emotions.
So many contradictions in DB unfortunately. During TOP, Jiren attacks the Universe 7 spectators on purpose, Goku loses his shit, powers up in MUI and kicks Jiren’s ass. Technically he should have been dropping out of MUI since it requires a calm state 😂
Thats anime bs we shouldnt take it into account
hello
uio = super saiyan
tui = super saiyan 2
mui = super saiyan 3
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mui is litteraty UI omen but with white hair
(Joke)
do to orange piccolo vs vegeta ssbe
Orange Piccolo negs him.
He’s closer to UE Vegeta than Evo Blue.
@@georgie545 current ssjbe
@@abdelatifhooty-ob5kp dont tell me u are saying this due to the beast gohan thing, Piccolo would still win? evolved vegeta fought a worn down gohan, and we really dont know if he used ego off screen, its just a dumb moment toyotaro perhaps even forgot ego existed.
either way piccolo is Implied to be close to Gohan as he spars with him regularly, and we know how quick piccolo can grow when training with others so its entirely possible
@@runin12Vegeta used SPF, easy win
@@darkgenics vegetas pride wouldnt let him, also vegeta cant just do that, he has too hit piccolo and I feel piccolo would play it safe
Tui was never mastered all the way vegeta said dont use it if you havent mastered yet i think tui will be the last form
Ui is weak and tui is he can fight like he wants but a bit weaker then mui
uio is the weakest tui second mui strongest tui is weaker cause the ego is in his head and he thinks he can win half the time
What is UI Omen doing here? Bro thinks he’s part of the debate 😭
TUI and omen are literally the same forms.
@@raiden8991 no
@@sc-1918 yes they are, Toyotaro himself said it.
@@raiden8991 when? Link pls
@@sc-1918 in an interview during the Granolah arc.
MUI is the best
Mui
Tui
Ui
Pui ?
Anime MUI mogs all the versions
Manga MUI is the strongest.
@@raiden8991 but he don't mog
@@Gozieaaa Moro arc MUI mogs lol.
Goku solos all fiction so hard we can only talk about Goku vs Goku now
You sure bro? He cant even solo his own verse
@@antispiral6538 shhhh he's just pretending he can't