Seized Rivarossi 080 Steam Locomotive Restoration
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 มี.ค. 2020
- I picked this old Rivarossi 080 steam locomotive at larkspur line train store for around $15 last December. After testing it I discovered it was seized so in today's video I attempt to get it running again. The problem wasn't expecting.
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Super. I always liked the Rivarossi & other versions of this 0-8-0, mostly because of the tender booster unit which came with some of these models. It had axle mounted turning crankshafts with moving siderods, and visible steam cylinders, and it was pretty rare to see an operating booster on any locomotives back then, so it made this one special for me. 💙 T.E.N.
Great video!!!
Although there not as nice as the new stuff, don't underestimate Rivarossi, when I was growing up the Rivarossi was the stuff in the glass cases at the hobby shops, they were the elite of steam locos back in the day, not so much now of course, there brutes, I own more then 2 dozen of them, most are good quality, along with 3 shoeboxes of just parts for the riv locos...I purchased $500 just in parts from Bowser a few years back, Bowser at the time bought up most of the remaining parts from distributions when riv was going under...so I'm set with parts. Glad to see you took the time to repair this loco, there a nice piece of history.
Agreed. I like the attention to detail for the time. I have about twelve Rivarossi locos.
Those old Rivarossis....they're tanks!!! Talk about built!!!!
Really cool to watch you work on these engines. I'll have to take a look at Grandpa's old Marklin engine. Vintage 1960.👍👍
40 years later : *has 827272728282 0-8-0’s*
I appreciate that you're willing to rehabilitate locomotives that most people would have just thrown in the trash. Greetings from across the border in northern New York.
Great restoration SMT !
BTW, love the cart in tow for the power, too funny
What better way to spend time being quarantined than by watching SMT Mainline?
That made me choke lmao
awesome! i literally gagged at the close up shot🤣
My first highly detailed steamer with valve gear, after two years with a Tyco Mantua 040 slopeback switcher. 1971. $16 US.
Yep even when fairly new...when stuck/stalled on the rail, switch the power to reverse and quickly back fwd....off she would go. I got to where I could do that trick to get a slow smooth start and slow turtle running.
My Berkshire did it, my JW Bowker did it, my FM Diesel did it too. It had to be the can motor.
The later IHC (post Rivorassi ) locos of the 90s ran better and had less ridiculous flanges, but they don't look as good.
My Rivarossi heavy pacific was destroyed by 10yr old me and needs a ton of spare parts to fix. My Berkshire runs like new and the motor coils look mint condition.
If you have had a lot of these you will find that there were 3 versions. The one here was a 2nd generation version.
The first had the motor in the tender, like Rivarossi's earlier 2-8-0. In fact, they used the same tender shell. They did, however replace the chassis with a plastic one instead of continuing that awful die-cast one that crumbled as it aged. You can identify this version at a glance. The area under the boiler closest to the firebox has a big ugly casting instead of the "air" of later versions.
The second version moved the motor to the cab and a new chassis restored the area under the boiler to a better-looking state. There was now the familiar gearbox and a vertical shaft ran down to the drivers.
The third version was the last. The motor was moved again. This time it went in the boiler, facing down and driving the wheels directly with a simple worm. These were geared a bit too fast but the intended market (Woolworth's and Kiddie City by then) did not seem put off.
Great work again Harrison. Its good to see that old Rivarossi come back to life. Keep up the good work.
Doctor Harrison saves another locomotive. Great work!
And still working on it
I really like the Rivarossi 0-8-0 switchers, i have several of them, so much fun. Very strong pullers too
Cannot wait to get my steam back I ran across a river Rossi big boy and I gave it to a professional to clean it up it ran a little bit but act like it was really dirty we'll see when I get it back can't wait great videos keep up the great work and be safe during these times tell your next video have a good day
I don’t know what year my river Rossi is but it still works very well
That was fun. Good job.
Seeing as the locomotive was in a box of parts locos at the shop, Harrison, most likely that's how the washer got lodged in the motor. Soon as you went to the close-up of the motor it was obvious that's the problem. I'm like wait, wait, don't put the shell on yet, then it hit you, to install the piece between the motor and wormgear shaft. She's been "rode hard and put away wet," but she's a runner.
Thanks for sharing. 👍 👍 👍
That theory makes a lot of sense, it must have been running when it was put in the box and the washer got into the motor at some point while it was in there which is why the coils are okay.
I like your videos working on vintage locomotives the best
Great Project!
hey smt you should do a restoration of the decoration and build a tender for it
great video liked 👍😮🚂
A great repair demonstration.
I like your comments because sounds like the inside of my brain when working on stuff like this.
That’s an awesome loco
This engine reminds me of my Bachmann reading 2-8-0 consolidation no 2019 I owned in my collection.
awesome channel I really enjoy your will it run videos I keep looking for vintage old locos the train store in my city charges a frikken arm and a leg for everything would love to find a deal like you found
I like your back round it makes the room way brighter and keep up the good work
SMT - Just a thought. Maybe you could take Tyco & other diesel models that you would turn into a " dummy " & use the trucks & chassis to scratch-build a tender with sheet styrene & scratch- built details? The trucks would be installed so the metal wheels are all on one side.
3:45 Made me laugh. "Either way, it's coming apart!" The Rivarosi are pretty tough and have good pulling power, sometimes a little noisy. I have a Rivarosi #102 tender that matches that if you want it.
I have that exact model complete with it's tender, all in perfect condition. Runs excellent. Added DCC to mine also
SMT I have a rivorossi nkp 779 with issues...any recommendations?
Rather than steel wool, I would - and do - use a buffing brush on my Dremel. No fibers to get into the mechanism and motor that way. Also, one might consider replacing that old Rivarossi motor with a more efficient can-type motor.
SMT , mAy I strongly suggest not using steel wool EVER, because as you know it can get into motor. Instead see if you can find 3M sanding scrubbing pads (white one is for metal) at the local hardware store ... generally in the paint department. It may take a little more effort, but there's no risk to the motor as it's not magnetic.
Awesome train. I wonder what it would be like if you made a Hershey steam loco
Hi SMT I have three 4-8-4 Hudson’s, all them work , upgraded one to DCC , TH&B 501 and the 502
The 4-6-4 is the Hudson configuration
Dane S , yes 4-6-4 typo on my part and I have three of them
I have the same one with the tender and it's an Indiana belt railroad
I see you have a Revell mail pouch barn on your layout been looking for one for years in the box is favorable for me Great Video!!!!
Nice video as always SMT and commenters, y’all need to stop with the “first comment” crap. It’s really annoying
My rivorossi heavy pacific has the same problem like the Berkshire the metal it’s like decaying on the screw hole so now it’s hard to screw the crew back in and I accidentally disconnected the Electra pickup and know it’s taking two days to fix
I am only just starting out in this hobby and have found your repair videos in particular very useful as i started with older ebay engines. One problem with the steam engines that i have faced is the connecting rods coming undone especially while reversing. Could you share any tips on this?
Great video👍 I have the same locomotive and watching this video gives me better insight to how it all works and if I ever need to do a little restoration myself I will use this video as a guide.
Rivarossi use to be called AHM, they were very good trains.
"Riveraussi make good motors"- the riveraussi guy
SMT: gives it power. Me: Its alive its alive its alive!!!!
The 0-8-0 you have looks like the heavy USRA version from WWI when the US government took over building steam engines to a single standard (hence the USRA meaning). If you look at the last driving wheels to see that they rest under the firebox as this one does, then its a true 0-8-0 and not the fake version as Bachmann did and Tyco did with the Chattanooga. The Tyco version is actually a Mikado 2-8-2 that they removed the guide and trailing trucks.
This was a model of an actual engine used on the Indiana Harbor Belt. It looks weird because it was a 3-cylinder design. The prototype also had a booster on the first tender truck. The engines were not around long and I always wondered why Rivarossi chose it to make a model of. They also made an O scale version in the 70s.
Just for history's sake...USRA was World War ONE.
@@jamesjorgensen3709 yes, you are right. I made a typing mistake. thanks. I made the correction.
great job
No one: Tyco collectors: I have about 100 small switchers and no big mainline power.
Here's a thought on your testing power pack have you ever think of putting alligator clips on the ends of the wires....
18:50 Gives up the ghos... NO! It's back! Ghost still in tact.
I always speak too soon...
You mentioned using a mixture of Labelle #102 and #106 for the worm(?) gears. However, the other times you applied oil, you didn't mention the type/Labelle # of the oil used. Please clarify.
Cool 👍
When picking up steam locomotive you should look for their call tender too...
smt i have a tender for that engine and i will try to send it to you and i will probably send you some parts to make that train mostly complete!
Very nice know all you need is a tender
You need to invest in a ultrasonic cleaner. It gets the crap out from spaces you won't believe.
Have you ever had a motor that was weaker after restoration? If so, how did you fix it?
Quick question have you seen any Illinois central units cause I've seen some but I saw 1024 yesterday
I've got one switcher unit and that's it.
I see that you picked up on some of my tips
Such as?
SMT Mainline cleaning stuff with hot soapy water
@@dirtydanstrains1414 I've been using hot soapy water long before I was on youtube or knew about your channel. In fact, in my very first video you can see me using hot water and dish soap to clean the hiawatha's worm gear. It's a common practice since dish soap breaks up grease and oil.
SMT Mainline yo chill I wasn’t trying to be mean
@@dirtydanstrains1414 Umm, I didn't think you were. I was just saying that I've been doing this prior to youtube.
Have you done or can you do a video on repairing motors, like cleaning them and replacing brushes etc?
Wierd! I have never heard of the Riva brand till last Saturday. I am getting an old BigBoy one to use as a static display piece. I dont know if the wheel flanges are to big on it to run on Peco83 anyway.
Nice job, so where did that stray washer/bushing that was jamming the motor end up? Did you install it on the engine somewhere?
I think it was part of the cross bar between the locomotive and tender. Unfortunately the screw is missing so I couldn't put it back.
Early Tyco used Rivarossi then they got super cheap by the 1970s.
Cool
Never experienced riverossi myself as little as i have things and fact that when I was looking for things like how most find freebies or decent priced I find that people tend to screw everyone over and expect in used dirty track thats Never going to be what you think. they want a price instead to just letting it go . funny how that works. Especially if they had non working locomotives ebay is famous for price gouging... Did you go on your trip ? With all this crap going on wouldn't surprise me if not yet they expect truck drivers to keep going. Be safe
I wish the copper brush armature face was thicker.
If the light is working but the motor is not, the problem is the brushes.
Yes or wiring to the motor.
SMT Mainline it’s the motor otherwise the light wouldn’t be on
A new kind of tender....
Like me some Rivarossi......
when you are doing a restoration, instead of the camera angle you are using, the camera should be pointing down from over your right shoulder. it would give much more of a instructive viewpoint, and the viewers could actually see what you are doing.
what is that thumbing noise in the back ground?
Looks like it's being chased 😂
Why didnt you put the oil/grease mix on the motor reduction gears?
I should have. This is one of my older videos where I didn't do every step.
your always saying "the bridge is dirty" WHY DONT YOU CLEAN IT ???
Looks like a homicide in the parking lot of Ace Super Market.
i think he says the intro slower every video.
There's not much to go wrong in an electric motor
I just found one in good condition
I have a RivaRossi 0-8-0 atsf steam engine
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Hey SMT, Given That this rivarossi can go fast, why not use this as a steamer for high speed trains?
thx
I just bought the ho Chattanooga train no 917
It’s a 0-8-0 but it’s also a 2-8-2 design
Also smt the light quit
can i have it
I have that locomotive
Need to see the locomotive, not the restorer.
I think you should start to wear gloves during these things
Where's the fun in that? It's all part of the experience. 👍
first comment
SHUSH
no u
Legit I'm weed shut up with the first comment