Eschatology, End Times and What's to Come | Ep 134
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- Pre-mil, Post-mil, A-mil, Pre-trib, Post-trib?! We wade through the various biblical perspectives on the end times, and I tell you what, based on God's word, I believe eschatologically.
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Eschatology, End Times and What's to Come | Ep 134
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"as I studied for myself". Such a key phrase. I have been looking into eschatology off and on for 44 years so you can well imagine all the DIFFERENT viewpoints I have heard throughout the decades. But when I TOOK the TIME to just get QUIET before Jesus with my Bible in front of me, my mind engaged, my ears open, a willing/teachable spirit and MY BIG MOUTH SHUT I was amazed how quickly He responded and all the years of confusion and head-spinning melted away. Thanks for even broaching a subject that most Christians these days just want to dismiss and ignore because it makes them uncomfortable. Laura-Lee (from Alberta, Canada)
If I may ask, what ist your conclusion?
Thank you, Allie, for your thoughtful breakdown of the end times. I don't entirely agree with you, but the verses and insight you gave should give us all something to consider. Some of the key issues with end times seem to be three-fold: the timing of the rapture (1 Thessalonians 4:15-17), the interpretation of the thousand years (Revelation 20:1-8), and the nation of Israel (Romans 11:25-27). The day of the Lord in the end times is primarily about the glory of God and Christ, but many Christians just have different interpretations about how that is fleshed out.
The only thing I would advise any Christian is that when studying the doctrine of the end times, remember that any end time interpretation that changes the meaning of a text or changes another Biblical doctrine makes that interpretation suspect. Second, if anyone thinks their end time interpretation makes them so "right" that another's makes them "deceived," we need to check our motivations and attitudes as Christians. This is the reason I appreciated Allie's attitude, because we want to get to the truth, not be self-righteous.
Maybe Paul wrote that in 2 Thessalonians for the people who were left behind from the rapture and then became true believers during the tribulation
*YAY! YOU GET IT!* I am so relieved to hear a sister in Christ say what you said, Allie. Well done!
The next challenge is about the timing of the FIRST Gog and Magog. It's a life and death question that is all about *Ezekiel's Fire.*
But, here is me, doing a happy dance over the fact that you really GET IT!!!
Thank God for you! It is refreshing to hear rational thought and critical thinking! I most likely said this before, however it deserves to be repeated!
Wow so much irony
4 years have passed and things have only gotten worse…i thank God for Allie’s platform and her rational thought and critical thinking.
Bravo! Good, sound exegesis, sister! Congrats & blessings! Keep up the good work!
It ended just before I had to leave for work, perfect timing.
Yes!!! We are definitely living in Bible prophecy before the rapture of the church.
Thank you for sharing! 🙏🏻
Mathew 24:37 “remember how it was in the days of Noah. It will be the same when the Son of Man comes.”
Noah did not even get a drop of rain on him or his family. The rain was the wrath of God.
Rapture is coming, before the tribulation, but that doesn’t mean before bad things happen. It only means before God’s wrath.
Why would a good and loving father take his wrath out on his hood children who love him. There will be some who are convinced during but most won’t.
In the day of Noah the wicked were taken not the righteous. Rapture debunked.
@@tylermacaluso73I think the OP made it clear that the wicked were taken away with the flood. Also the word rapture comes from the Greek word rapturos. I believe Enoch and Elijah are also examples of there being a rapture. However, you can disagree with me, that’s totally fine.
I have some points of contention that I would lovingly suggest all consider across the various views of eschatology presented and that which you may hold. In the video she mentions some sections of Scripture that point to Jesus’ second coming as being that of a thief in the night and yet there being tangible signs of His coming for biblical prophecy to be fulfilled before He comes back. As you know, there are a host of implications with a Christian’s end times view and so I’ll be brief and then recommend a couple places that go more in depth that you may like to review if any are about that. All this I say in love for the body of Christ. And as Allie has spoken this is one of many views held by lovers of God’s Word and truth.
The context for the Olivet discourse (Matthew 24/25) is definitely speaking to His specific disciples before Him and about the generation of Pharisees/unbelieving religious leaders of of that day. ( see “THIS generation Matthew 24:34). In pronouncing woes/curse upon the Pharisees in the chapter preceding the Olivet discourse Jesus announces woes will come upon “this generation” too (Matthew 23:36). The very question before the discourse Jesus is responding to refer to the temple itself in His day and the end of the age- not of the world or cosmos (Compare Mat 24:1-4; Mark 13:1-4; and Luke 21:5-9). Reading the whole of the synoptic gospels’ Olivet discourses side by side are telling of the fact that Jesus is here not prophesying His second coming for the church but of His coming in judgement upon covenant breaking Israel- prophecy which was FULFILLED in the destruction of the temple 70 AD and sacking of the city of Jerusalem by the Romans. The language that sounds like destruction of the world is judgement language God has used elsewhere (judgement of Egypt in Isaiah 19, judgement of Babylon in Isaiah 13). All this to say the end times prophecy as pertaining to Revelation deserves a read with the context with the destruction of the temple in mind. Judgement language for unbelieving outside countries being used for God’s original covenant people is a big deal, was then and still is now. The book of Acts catalogues some of the Jewish persecution that Jesus foretold in Matthew 23 and 24. And Acts also catalogues some of the joint persecution building between Israel’s unbelieving rulers and the Roman authority, which is the backdrop of what I and other post millennials will say is the proper context for reading the book of Revelation. Some things to think on. And I’ll recommend two books if you ever get the time for them:
He Shall Have Dominion and The Book of Revelation Made Easy. Both are by Kenneth Gentry, a friend of my pastor. Both gave me clarity on what I like you and most Christians thought was a passive part of our faith. If you REALLY want clarity, diving into the Jewish historian Josephus will blow your mind as to his accounts of the years leading up to and including the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple with so much detail. Anyway, that’s about it lol it’s as brief as I could get.
If you read all this I love you all, Allie is awesome, and I probably won’t respond because presuppositions about scripture aren’t changed by TH-cam comments. We all must carry out growing in the grace and knowledge of our Lord together through reading His Word and prayer. ✌🏿
@Nathan Eleweanya I appreciate the tone of your comment. Would you answer 1 question for me. How does this view of Matt 24 line up with 2 Thes 2 where Paul is reteaching the Olivet Discourse to Gentiles as motivation not to fear the second coming of Christ, for "these things must happen first"?
Michael Broadie I want to begin by stating God’s ways and wisdom are above ours and I by know means want to limit His work or put Him in a box and say “there, I understand Him.”
Secondly brother, I want ground the discussion by reminding Paul’s letter is to the first century church in Thessalonica. The tone of the overall letter based on the intro chapter that precedes it (always read everything as whole letters in context) is comfort and instruction through current tribulation they were presently suffering and correction to false teaching. In addressing the hope for their suffering, Paul reminds them that vengeance always ultimately belongs to God, and those persecuting them will ultimately perish. He then reminds them of the eternal hope of glory we will share as a unified Church with our Lord. And he then addresses the false teaching that had infiltrated the church in that day- that Christ had come. The connection to Matthew 24 is in Jesus’ warning in verses 20-31. (Emphasis in verses23-25)
I point you to the outside context of Jesus’ words because in mentioning a “flight” and “gathering of the elect” by angels, I feel the contextual fulfillment of the prophecy is the flight of the young Church from the original promised land of Jerusalem/Israel to safety apart from the onslaught of the Romans upon the “great city” of Jerusalem. The same is immediately in view for Paul’s audience in the Thessalonian gentiles, who would’ve understood what we read today as more vague language. “Do you not remember that when I was with you I told you these things?” (Thes 2:5)
1 John and Hebrews and more epistles give more context to the original falling away of from the Word of Christ and obeying Him. Instead people wishing the church forsook enduring and suffering for Christsake instead for living according to the law (if Jewish Christians or other false gods). Everything Paul warns about is fulfilled in history once with the historical record of Roman leaders and persecution by them and by Jews- the history of Roman emperor Nero and the Jewish Wars is vital to understanding the historical fulfillment of the tribulation spoken of.
Ultimately however, there is always a spirit of anti Christ that will be at odds with the Church. And we wage war against the principalities of darkness led by the evil one the same way the early Church did, by believing on the Lord Jesus and obeying His every word. And every age of Christianity will have to fight against apostasy. False teaching from people who claim Christianity will always be the greatest threat to the health of the Lord’s Bride.
In sum, 1. historical tribulation was real and felt by the Church now filled with Jews and Gentiles as promised by the law and prophets. 2. Jesus prophecies the destruction of the temple and signs accompanying that destruction so His elect would escape. 3 Jesus indeed has a last day of judgement when His church will be glorified in Him in His coming, but note that on that day the last enemy to be defeated will be death (1 Corinthians 15:20-28). That means the Church fulfills Matthew 28:18-20 and THEN He comes bodily, after all things are subjected to Him. I’m feeble minded but I pray this clarifies where I’m coming from as and thank you for seeking the clarity Michael. Gonna make the same plug for Ken Gentry’s books referenced in the first comment. This position I feel is the more accurate and Christ exalting one but your verdict is yours. I love you all the same. ✌🏿
It seems to me that persecution comes from people who hate Christians and God’s wrath is poured out on those who hate Him. Christian’s will be persecuted, but I understand the Tribulation to be God’s wrath. I m seeing persecution and God’s wrath are not the same. I’m not saying persecution is easy; it is brutal and we in the US will more than likely not escape brutal persecution : However I don’t think His Bride will experience His wrath. But whatever happens those who are His will not be lost. He will see us through it all
Agreed!
Thanks for your insight and perspective on Biblical issues! Always a joy listening to you!
New to this channel and greatly appreciate your insights. I too grew up SB and was taught a pre-tribulation rapture. The emphasis there is that I was taught. I went through a similar experience that Durbin did and the more I tried to defend what I was taught, the more questions it created. This sent me on a journey to prove myself right, and as biased as my research was, I proved myself wrong. The key verse that did this was Daniel 9:27. If you read the previous verses to 9:27, they speak of the "Most Holy" and "Messiah"; however, we are supposed to believe, as a futurist, that the "he" in verse 27 is the anti-Christ. That makes no sense. It's as if Daniel has Tourette's and yells "ANTICHRIST". The other part is that there simply is no biblical precedent to divorce the last week of the 70 week prophesy from the other 69, especially by 2000 years. The other part of that verse we need to pay attention to is that: "... he came to confirm the covenant" What covenant? The covenant he made with Abraham. But if this is the "anti-Christ", how can he confirm a covenant he has not yet made? Can you confirm a flight you haven't booked or an appointment you have not made? Nope. Apart from Daniel, if there is a pre-tribulation rapture, who is Revelation for? Is it for the Jews who do not even read the NT? Or is it for the unbelievers who don't even read the bible, much less Revelation? Revelation was written in a manner that spoke to the first century believers and is still being revealed to us even today. If we read it chronologically and try to fit it into a future 7 year period, it is very confusing, as it should be by virtue of the fact that is not the way it was intended to be read. I encourage others to research where this future rapture idea came from and that is from a Jesuit named Ribera in the 1500s, which was pretty conveinent for the Vatican with the reformation kicking off. I personally believe that Jesus was talking to the generation in which he completed his ministry. The Olivet discourse makes that much clear. And when your read Mattew 23, the chapter of Woes, it makes it even more clear that Jesus was speaking to that generation. One final thought, according to futurists, the generation that saw Israel become its own nation would see the second coming. We are well two generations past that now. However, if you believe that when Jerusalem was surrounded and leveled in 70 AD and was in fact what Jesus was speaking of in the Olivet discourse, it occurred in the very generation that Jesus was speaking to "this generation". Gob Bless and stay the course with your channel. You are doing a great job.
Actually, regarding the gap/no gap between 69th and 70th weeks. Look at what must transpire during each and how does each end. The 69th ends with the Messiah being cut off. The 70th week includes things like 4th Seal which kills 25% of the population; Cosmic darkness; Abomination of desolation leading to Christ's public and clear return to instill wrath. These haven't happened. Preterists are wrong. St. John was not a preterist, nor were his disciples (Polycarp et al) The 70th week is in the future. The 69th is in the past. that's why therer's a gap. There also is not a preTrib rapture. The rapture/gathering happens at Christ's return (Day of the LORD--DOTL) The Tribulation happens after the abomination of desolation of the 3rd Temple, and after the apostasy happens and 25% of the population dies off and the cosmic disturbances which will be global. PreWrath or a version of it is the interpretation that seems to check the boxes.
I agree with you entirely! That was a wonderful conclusion.
Great job Stuckey!
That was a great contextual comparison between Revelation 3:10 and John 15:17 which I had never heard before, so I'm grateful to Allie for sharing it. Yes, there has never been an era in which the church of God did not suffer persecution from the world (as it is part of carrying our cross and following after Christ and being identified with him and being refined.) Also, God has never promised protection from persecution which is really what the Great Tribulation is, but he does repeatedly promise that he will preserve us in our faith as the Holy Spirit does his sanctifying work in us and to keep us from falling away until the end. I wish she would have had time to make the distinction between the entirety of Daniel's 70th week and the last 3 and 1/2 years in particular as the Great Tribulation doesn't begin until three and a half years after the covenant the Anti-christ and nations make with Israel. Overall, this video was great and "Chatterbox" Allie, lol, was able to say a lot in just 33 mins. God bless her and everyone else that listened.
The ONLY REASON for the Tribulation Period is for the Salvation of the Jewish Nation. The Groom WILL NOT beat His Bride!
I totally agree with you. As Christians we must be willing also to suffer for the Kingdom just as the Apostles and the first church did. I mean this is how the Messiah went up to Heaven and how the Apostles went into rest awaiting the Day of the LORD. But hey, tribulation has to be everyday. If not from the government, but from friends and family. When you preach the Gospel, it has that effect on people. People either don't wanna hang out with you anymore or they simply write you off as a nut job then go their way. I think those are some of the ways we as Christians get persecuted. I don't want to be alive for the reign of the Antichrist but I also wouldn't mind dying for my faith like the Apostles did. It's painful, but the reward for that suffering is worth it. All I have to do is to ask God to help strengthen my faith. Like you said, the Holy Spirit is there to encourage us and He will never leave us nor forsake us but will strengthen us and give us strength. Let us pray for that. Be blessed my brother.
I’m still learning more about end times but definitely leaning more towards Post-Mill #ThatPostMill. I do agree that believers won’t avoid tribulation/persecution.
Then allie Beth what does the verse their in the fields one will be taken and one left behind means
Hello Allie, what camera and lense do you use?
Girls --- I loved allies hair back then. It was so so beautiful!
All I will say is... Christians, Christ suffered persecution and death before He returned to His Father in Heaven. The Apostles suffered persecution and death in order to enter the kingdom. I think that is the term "carrying their cross" put into action. So, whatever happens, we MUST be willing to siffer for the Kingdom. If it means we anticipate the tribulation or we suffer it daily when we try to minister to our friends and family, we should desire to die for and to further the Kingdom of YAH. I understand that some people don't want to see or suffer the great tribulation, but here's my thing: if we going to see people be cast into the lake of fire by means of us possibly judging them as I mentioned in the Bible, we should accept the judgement of God and if we somehow suffer, we suffer death knowing we will ressurect in Christ. That is my message to anyone out there. That let us be open to the beauty of suffering for the Kingdom because what better way to go out and then eventually come out on the side of Justice.
Funny how there's already a dislike before the video has even Premiered. Lol
P Clare funny how there are any ratings at all really
Yeah, because leftists don't want to listen, they just want to shut people down who differ from their own views (not that a dislike will actually do that by itself, but you see the point).
Thank you for taking this on!!! Pastors won’t even touch on this
YOU ROCK ..
I believe the same as you do Allie 👌🏼
GOD will KEEP us, like HE kept the Israelites in Egypt, in the Book of Exodus👌🏼
@Allie, you might want to listen to Jacob Prasch teaching on eschatology for comparison.
@@edmundtozzi6666 that is not biblical. God never give His Spirit a bit there, a lot here, etc. Holy Spirit is God's spirit. A person. It can't be divided like a portion. Either you are given Holy Spirit or you don't. Plus, prophecy is Spirit's gift. Not everyone has it as they might be given other gifts. Read your Bible and ask Holy Spirit to teach you.
@@edmundtozzi6666 WOW, that is a serious stretch of PERSONAL interpretation. Please site you biblical source that the Holy Spirit can be measured, and I don't mean personal interpretation. Because the bible is very clear of FALSE teachings.
I have a question for anyone interested- in the amazing prophecy of Daniel 9:24 there are 6 things listed. The third thing listed is, “to make atonement for iniquity”. What is the ONLY thing that can make atonement for sin?
Church listen up...stop debating and start witnessing. That's the gospel mandate. Even Jesus doesn't know so lets get busy sharing the good news to a lost and hurting world.
Amen!
“When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
“Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
“Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
“The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’
“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
“They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
“He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
“Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
Matthew 25 : 31 - 46
Allie, it is not about people who is smarter than you; it is the gift from God to those who search Him diligently. Ask, pray and read the Holy Scripture (Holy Bible) daily. And repeat. Look at Jesus' disciples; most of them did not have any formal education. Jesus gave them the Holy Spirit as the Helper to help them understand His Word. God gives wisdom freely to those who ask and seek Him diligently. Put trust in God, not men (or women). Don't look at titles of men, but listen to the Holy Spirit. Trust in His mighty power. There are things we do not understand because the world does not know Him. Love God first and love one another. Guard your heart and mind against the so-called 'wisdom of men' in the interpretation of the Bible. Always point people back to the Bible. Remember, no man without a humble heart will be a true follower of Christ. Everything we do is for the glorification of God. We are His humble servants, privileged to serve Him and declare His glory. The words coming from our mouths should be little but the meaning should be enormous for our mouths should declare God's glory daily and forever!
After studying this for some time I've come to the conclusion that the scriptural evidence for the rapture is weak, at best. Jesus Himself said tha tribulation would be shortened for the sake of the elect. This suggests that the elect remain until The Day of The Lord. And yes, some of us will be here during the "Great Tribulation". Quite frankly, the notion that believers would escape the tribulation seems ludicrous and inconsistent with what God has done in the past. Having said that, I do believe that we will be covered to varying extents according to God's sovereign will. He will determine the exact nature of the suffering for each believer.
Spot on Stuckey! For those who believe Matt 24 is only for Jews, consider 2 Thes 2. Paul writing to GENTILES, echoes Matt 24.
You are a very sharp young lady. I never bought into being "raptured" so as to avoid the tribulation. Sometimes I feel we live in constant tribulation! As bad as I think things are now, 2Thessalonians 7-8 says: "For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is removed. Then that lawless one will be revealed..." In other words, God has not moved His presence yet. If you think it's bad now, wait until He (totally) removes His presence!
In Dan 9, “to make atonement” is obviously the crucifixion of Christ. Dan 9 says that after the 69th week Messiah will be cut off and have nothing. We know the cross is included in the 490 years, therefore the cross had to take place in the 70 week. The cross isn’t in “the gap”. There can’t be a gap in a unit of time.
@Martin Luther I was taught the Disp view for 45 years. When I learned the correct interpretation of Dan 9 - I was amazed! Now I can’t see it any other way.
The rabbis are expecting Elijah to return and renew the old covenant laws, regather and number the 12 tribes by family name (the number of names, as described in book of NUMBERS), and restart the sacrificial system with offerings/sacrifices bought and sold in the temple which you couldn’t do unless you entered the Sinai covenant which meant being sealed with the name/mark of the Lord as bestowed by the priest in the Aaronic Benediction. This is being described with the second beast/false prophet in Rev 13 using language from the Torah as it occurred back then.
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Premillennialism: the 2nd Advent of Christ precedes and "kicks off" the Millennium of Rev. 20.
The events spoken of in Rev. 19 are those surrounding the 2nd Advent.
Rev. 20 follows the events of Rev. 19, chronologically.
Amillennialism: Rev. 20 depicts events that began during, or shortly after, the 1st Advent of Christ.
The Millennium depicts what happens thorough the history of the Church.
The 2nd Advent only happens at the end of the Millennium.
Postmillennialism: Rev. 20 depicts events that will begin to happen in the future (or, maybe we're in it now;
Postmillennialism is the most confused of the three main positions, but still holds that the 2nd Advent happens at the end of the Millennium (just like Amillennialists).
Premillennialism is the only, proper way to understand Rev. 20.
And, yes, that means that at the 2nd Advent, when the saints (not the wicked) are raised to Glory (life eternal), that precedes the Millennium of Rev. 20.
Rev. 20 follows the 2nd Advent of Christ, and discusses events that happen after it.
The Millennium, then, must be discussed in conjunction with the 2nd Advent of Christ (eg. 1 Thes. 4:13-18; Jn. 14:1-3, 1 Cor. 15...etc.).
Hope this helps.
Questions?
Let me know.
*Soli Deo Gloria*
Alli explained bible eschatology perfectly. She actually studies her bible unlike amil and postmil people.
Per Luke 17, which was Christ's first teaching on Eschatology, the rapture occurs the night after the Jews flee Jerusalem. That is the same day as the Abomination of Desolation at the midpoint of Daniel's 70th week.
The 7th Trumpet/Mid-Trib position is the most Biblically accurate, but totally ignored by the mainstream. My channel is dedicated to the position and I have a book on the position on Amazon.
You speak amazing and you’re so gorgeous! Lovely video ❤️
RUSHIKA .....I like your name.....unique!
i agree with this
What translation of the Bible do you read from?
@444lonnie because I would like to be able to read the Bible and understand it...
@444lonnie You are reading versions made up from corrupt questionable manuscripts. Not from the majority greek texts.
th-cam.com/video/qLz4qyFMTqI/w-d-xo.html
The Calvinist/heresy friendly one. ESV.
I agree with you. I don’t believe we will be raptured up before the tribulation. It’s written in the Bible what will happen. Thanks for studying and seeking out God’s truth. Luke 21:20-36 tells us to be ready and pray always that will be worthy to escape all these things. It’s my belief he will keep us safe during
Where the 2 witnesses are called up that's the 1st resurrection or rapture of the dead in Christ 1st then we who are alive and remain. It's not about knowing the day or the hour but the event
Love your videos. I am definitely in disagreement with you on the Rapture. The Post Millennial second coming theory is a joke and deserves no further comment. Thank you for all you do sister. May the Lord bless you always.
Except for the fact that it was the prevalent belief of the church for the majority of church history.
Yeah , I do not know why people want to argue with the establish order that God has stated . Christ the first fruits (past-tense) See matt 27:51-53 , Rev 14:4. Afterwards those who are Christ at His coming. This is the established order , and it will happen just like this. No mention of any other event taking place in between first fruits , and afterwards. This established order by God is also confirmed in James 5. where it also clearly states the Husbandman patiently wait for the early , and latter rain. early rain = first fruits , latter rain = Afterwards those at His coming. Notice it says husbandman ,He is coming back 1 x only, no other event is mention in this order that is clearly , and simply understood.
Sounds like you don’t believe people will be saved during the tribulation. Maybe I heard you wrong but that’s what it sounds like. You also said living through the tribulation proves we are Christians but doesn’t God already know our hearts and know who is saved? Jesus did say we don’t have to worry 🤷🏻♀️
Human potential in deluding themselves is mind blowing
Yup the amount of people who look at a wonderful creation and thik it can be random is mind blowing in its stupidity.
God will not pour his wrath out on his bride. God did not just protect Noah (or Lot) when he decided to pour out his wrath, he REMOVED them. The reason Paul talks like that (Christians suffering) is that there WILL be believers alive during the tribulation. There will be instant converts after the rapture ( and probably a lot of them) He is talking to people who are currently alive on earth. The entire Bible is talking to people who are alive, we won't need it in heaven, or the millennium.
Absolutely agree with you!
Many will be left behind who will be ministered to by the 144,000....and will believe the gospel and be saved!
He removed them... by moving them to a different location on Earth. They still remained on Earth.
Hey Allie!! :D
Great video, thanks for the info. However, The Great Tribulation is called Jacob's trouble - referring to the Jews. In Matthew 24, Jesus is speaking to Jews because Jesus only came to Jews... His mission was to preach the Kindom of Heaven to Jews (obviously the Jews did not accept Him as their Mesiah, so He appointed Paul to preach the gospel of his death, burial and resurrection to all who believe!). After the church is raptured out, God goes back to dealing with jews who will need Works for Salvation. If Believers would have to go through the tribulation to show ourselves worthy of salvation, then why is Apostle Paul's gospel in the bible explaining that we're saved by Grace alone through Faith alone in Christ alone?
Daniel Stepanyuk 👏👏👏
That is not how Paul described it himself in Roman's. He clearly states that it was always God's plan to offer salvation to gentiles.
Must disagree with you on this one. The rapture is pre-tribulation.
Surely you didn’t mean “6 hours”’ literally! 🤣😉😉
6 hrs wouldn't be enough...
Michael I know! I was making a joke based on the different eschatological views. 😉
Cool video. Things will get far worse before they get better. The believers will gather and unify before His second coming.
Believers ARE gathering now. But not in the church buildings. They are gathering by Skype and in house churches. But so are the false prophets so beware.
@444lonnie this is off topic but I noticed your name and was curious if you have experience w the repeating number phenomena?
Ellie we always need to start with the re establishment of Israel in a day in 1948, so you will need an open mind ok!..You have to negative mindset to start looking into this Allie.
Premillennialism is not the more historic position. Yeah some early church fathers held to it but other than that you won’t see in history until the 1800s.
Postmillennialism!
Amen brother. It's sad to see all these brothers and sisters so confused and they're all so wrong.
Pre trib rapture apologists believe those left on earth can still become christian and be saved and that God through the bible also speaks to them in that time. Even without the presence of the holy spirit. Which is why they become the martyrs beneath the temple crying out for justice so boldly.
Agree, church age is saved by faith not by work, during the tribulation, non believers and jews will be saved by faith and work (refuse mark of the beast).
Revelation 16 river is getting dried up
Amillinialism stance here
It makes more sense
Allie, you tube is loading you up with loooooong adds. This is their not so subtle way at semi deplatforming you.
Revelation doesn't really have anything to do with Christs' "Second Coming". It is about coming on the clouds, which when you go back to Daniel, refers to his ascension to the Throne. It then speaks of the destruction of the first creation in 70 AD.
Rev was written in about 90AD. So how can you say it talks about the destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD? But here are few verses from the book of Revelation that nullify your assertion.
Revelation 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
Revelation 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. 13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. 14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS. 17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; 18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great. 19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army. 20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. 21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.
Revelation 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
@@JesseMgala Revelation was not written in the 90AD. The internal proof says otherwise. Only a liberal "scholar" would tell you that. The book is about first century events. Those verse do not "nullify" anything. They are in my Bible as well, the same Bible that proclaims Revelation was to "soon take place" and the events were to occur in "that generation" of those hearing Jesus. I wouldn't mind having a discussion but please do not be so vain to thing you can "nullify" the proper interpretation of Scripture.
@@kylec8950 Regardless of the time of writing of the book of Revelation, Rev 19:11-21 hasn't happened yet. When has a quart of wheat costed a days pa?When was a 1/4 of mankind killed(Rev 6:8)? Nah, Rev is still future.
@@JesseMgala That all happened just when Jesus said it would, on "that generation". The problem isnt the Bible , the problem is people who don't understand the language of Biblical symbolism. They go into as 21st Century Americans. Not 1st century Hebrews. So you can't understand unless you really know your Bible, which sadly most people dont.
@@kylec8950 You said, "know your Bible". How many times did you read the whole Bible from Genesis to Revelation?
Second Coming Visions in Revelation:
Christ returns at the end of Revelation chapter 6, with signs in the sun, moon, and stars, as are found in the Olivet Discourse.
Those at the end of the chapter are hiding from the wrath of the Lamb.
Why would they be hiding if Christ is not present?
The "kings", "captains", "might men", "free", and "bond" are also found in chapter 19 at the return of Christ.
He returns at the 7th trumpet, which is the last trumpet in the Bible, and the time of the judgment of the dead in Revelation 11:15-18.
The beginning of chapter 12 is a history lesson containing the fall of Satan, and the birth and death of Christ, who is the seed promised to crush the head of Satan in Genesis 3:15.
The Second Coming is found in the "harvest" of chapter 14, which is related to the parable of the wheat and tares in Matthew chapter 13.
He comes as a thief at Armageddon, and the greatest earthquake in history is found in chapter 16. This occurs when the 7th angel pours out his vial.
He comes on a horse in chapter 19.
He comes with the fire, and the judgment of the dead at the end of chapter 20, which agrees with what Paul said in 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10, and 2 Timothy 4:1.
(The time of the judgment of the dead is also found in Revelation 11:18.)
The only way to properly interpret the book is through the principle of "Recapitulation".
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U didn’t mention Daniel Jeremiah Zechariah and many more your reading the end of the story u must read the whole book to understand revelation
xxRVxx like she said at the beginning....she can’t cover it all in 45 minutes.
How long have we've been in the end times?
The End Times began on May 14th, 1948. That's the day Israel became a New Nation.
In part, since John the Baptist called from the wilderness... "Repent, for the Kingdom of God is AT HAND". In fullness, since the destruction of the Temple in Judea in 70 AD.
@@MrBlueStudios With love & respect, that is an all too common deception. Please pray earnestly for discernment on this topic.
Nate Miller Please, on what point are you referring to when you said discernment on this topic?
technically since the adsention of the Lord jesus Christ. THEN ISREAL BECOMING ESTABLISHED AS A NATION. NOWX2019 THE STAGE IS BEING SET FOR THECANTICHRIST.
#datpostmil
I am a hardcore non-denominational Christian..I began studying Theology specializing in Biblical Eschatology, after a deeply Spiritual experience..I go by the Bible, not a philosophy from a mainstream religion..I went into all this with an open mind (7yrs ago) willing to accept whatever the Bible laid out..I 100% did not go into it biased..I know you don't know me, but you have to understand I went into it extremely thirsty for *only* God's Truth =) I agree that the word "rapture", THAT specific word is not used..I use that word as a short version for "the day God takes the Church"..the book of Revelation goes in harmony from Genesis, through the Old Testament and into the New Testament..in the past year I posted studies (you'll see it below if you scroll down) explaining God's Word in backing up the prophecy in Revelation, created throughout the entire Bible..the Antichrist is on earth at the beginning of the 7yrs of tribulation..that goes in harmony with Daniel 9:24-27..the Antichrist is in an agreement with Israel at the beginning of a 7yr period..this is confirmation through the books of Daniel AND Revelation that the Antichrist has been revealed AND released to begin his reign on earth..2 Thessalonians 2:3, Paul is speaking of the Antichrist..the term Antichrist comes from 1 John 2:18..2 Thessalonians 2:6 shows the Antichrist must be revealed in *HIS* *TIME* ..2 Thessalonians 2:7-8 shows that "restraints" will be removed so then the Antichrist can rule IN that 7yr period of time.. the "force" that is taken out is the "Church"..so again this shows God's People will be taken BEFORE the 7yrs of tribulations..this is even pointed out to the Apostle John
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Because thou hast kept the Word of My patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
the "Church" HAS to be removed before the Antichrist is revealed..there will be a "falling away"..in Greek it is translated as "departure", the "Church" will depart..there is no mention of the "Church" existing on earth after chapter 3 in Revelation..it is only until chapter 19 in the book of Revelation does the "Church" return to earth WITH Jesus Christ =)
A further (not long) study of the Pretrib in the Books of Matthew, Thessalonians, Corinthians, etc, etc
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Below is a fantastic playlist with alot of short videos (in case you don't have time for a long one) and *really* details Biblical evidence supporting the Pretrib
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I hope this genuinely helps =) God bless
It is important to remember the Bible was not written to us but for us these things were fulfilled in the first century please consider a preterist view when viewing scripture
God did not appoint us to wrath.
Tell that to the Christians tortured in a North Korean jail.
@@serenitypeaceandcomfort3669 i posted a whole post full of scripture and it is gone.
God's wrath is not man's and satan's.
You have to be born again to understand. The church is the body of Christ. We join in His suffering.
We will not suffer His wrath.
@@keepitrealoriginal why not? Are we not deserving of his wrath? Was David not his anointed one and he still experienced his wrath? The apostles?? Jesus??
@@marianacabrera7999 I refer you to "the superior word " channel "Rapture"
Good day.
Allie, better rethink your conclusion on the Pre-Trib matter. Better yet, PRAY about it.
In revelation 1 the churches are the lamp stands. In chapter 4 they are IN HEAVEN the tribulation happens in chapter 6. Which is meant for Israel, as God once again deals with the world directly through them with his bride gone (the church), but also to save a remnant
Sorry post tribulation is not traditional. Nor is it correct. We are not appointed to wraith. There is no salvation in suffering for God. It was all done on the cross.
The church is the only thing holding back God’s wraith on this earth.
Also. People will still be saved after the rapture. Point in case 144,000 Jews.
Matt. 24 jumps back and forth from the rapture and the 2nd coming. It speaks about both.
And also if you are post tribulation it means you’re looking for the man of sin to appear and not Christ.
Only pre-trib. Are looking for Christ.
Lol. The tribulation period is the wraith of God. There’s nothing to gain for the Christians to go through the tribulations period
There is also a mid-trib view that Allie didn't touch on. This is the view that the Rapture will occur in the middle of the tribulation around the time that the Antichrist breaks his treaty with Israel.
It’s called the time of Jacobs woe for a reason.
It’s an insult to Christ if you think his sacrifice wasn’t enough for man. You cannot add anything to the cross. Christ himself said. It is finished. Suffering for Christ adds nothing to salvation. And has no benefits to the Christian
Why would Jesus come to take his Bride after she's had the crap beat out of her?
Did God remove the Jews before he brought down His wrath on Egypt? No. Why should we think that we get to come out of the chaos? We're called to be the light if the world, how can we do that if we're taken out of it in the darkest moment? Corrie Ten Boom warned of the dangers with teaching pre-tribulation rapture, go read her letter. Also, the early church never taught pre-tribulation Rapture. It was a theology that came around in the early 20th century and is almost exclusively taught in Western churches.
You need only ask yourself one question: What if you're wrong? Will you be ready or will you be offended? What if the tribulation isn't meant to "beat up" EVERYONE present for it? The harps and bowls are the prayers and worship of the saints. In the same way that Moses called down the judgments on Egypt is the same way the church will partner with Christ to break the seals over the Anti-Christ and his followers. It will be our greatest moment as we partner with God to birth the Millennial reign of Christ.
1 Tessalonians 5:9 clearly states that God did not appoint us to wrath. That chapter speaks of the day of the Lord. Something to think about 😊
I like Her saved serious and great actress. She needs to be a little more Straight up.
I believe Post-Trib, Pre-mil is the biblical position as well
Let's look at 2 Thess. 2: 3 Let no one in any way deceive you, for it (the 2nd coming of Christ - see verses 1 & 2) will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God. " NASB
Before Christ's return the Christian church will experience a great shaking or a falling away (apostasy) from the true gospel. Those who are true to the Bible and the Bible only will not apostatize. Those who are not grounded in the Scriptures will unite with "the man of lawlessness" in his efforts to annihilate God's people. This is known as the time of trouble.
@Martin Luther Yes, some did apostatize. I'm not a fan of the Papacy. It teaches "another gospel", yet within the Catholic church there are many Christians living what they believe to be "the truth". To apostatize you must know the truth. God doesn't hold someone accountable until they know the truth and reject it.
@Martin Luther I fully disagree that it has been fulfilled. Let's look at the immediate context: "With regard to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him (i.e., the 2nd coming)... Let no one in any way deceive you, for it (the 2nd coming) will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed....Then that lawless one (the man of lawlessness) will be revealed whom the Lord will slay with the breath of His mouth and bring to an end by the appearance of His coming; " (2 Thess 2:1,3.8 NASB).
Clearly the great apostasy takes place just before Christ returns. The man of sin (man of lawlessness) is yet to be revealed, standing as if he were God in His temple. This is the great deception culminating in the great apostasy. This is future.
Your perspective on rapture is soo wrong.. why would the church have to face the wrath of God.. would you allow your beloved to face torture.
Jesus
Off topic: the problem is you're not supposed to teach doctrine, according to the Word of God, precisely (indirectly you're doing this here) to men. I hope you changed about this since 4 yrs...
i just found this video by a YT recommandation.
as a man, i think that verse only applies inside the church. she can teach to women and children. she cant control who her audience is and the men, like me, who choose to watch her video are at their own risk.
@@black-cross _she can teach to women and children_ ...yes she can. But Now (sorry for the long comment but i need to explain):
1 Timothy 2:9-14 is a moral and spiritual law given to women in Christ to practice everywhere, not only within the confines of a building called "Church" where Christians are gathered. Just before the verse 9, in 1 Timothy 2 concerning women, Paul in verse 8, said to men: "8I therefore want men to pray in EVERY place, raising pure hands, without anger or evil thoughts." , he does not mention the Church only but a behaviour to have "everywhere" and then, in verse 9, he start to addresses women by giving them directives/ordinnances concerning holy behaviour that they must have "everywhere", in society. He makes absolutely no mention of the Church, although at the same time this verse applies to the Church, necessarily.
You must understand that teaching is an authority given only to the men of God, especially when it comes to teaching men doctrines and Paul gave the reason why women cannot teach men in 1 Timothy 12 verses 13 to 14 ... this concerns the sin of Eve: "11𝐿𝑒𝑡 𝑎 𝑤𝑜𝑚𝑎𝑛 𝑙𝑒𝑎𝑟𝑛 𝑖𝑛 𝑠𝑖𝑙𝑒𝑛𝑐𝑒 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑎𝑙𝑙 𝑠𝑢𝑏𝑚𝑖𝑠𝑠𝑖𝑜𝑛. 12𝐴𝑛𝑑 𝐼 𝑑𝑜 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑝𝑒𝑟𝑚𝑖𝑡 𝑎 𝑤𝑜𝑚𝑎𝑛 𝑡𝑜 𝑡𝑒𝑎𝑐ℎ 𝑜𝑟 𝑡𝑜 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑎𝑢𝑡ℎ𝑜𝑟𝑖𝑡𝑦 𝑜𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑎 𝑚𝑎𝑛, 𝑏𝑢𝑡 𝑡𝑜 𝑏𝑒 𝑖𝑛 𝑠𝑖𝑙𝑒𝑛𝑐𝑒. 13𝐹𝑜𝑟 𝐴𝑑𝑎𝑚 𝑤𝑎𝑠 𝑓𝑜𝑟𝑚𝑒𝑑 𝑓𝑖𝑟𝑠𝑡, 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑛 𝐸𝑣𝑒. 14𝐴𝑛𝑑 𝐴𝑑𝑎𝑚 𝑤𝑎𝑠 𝑛𝑜𝑡 𝑑𝑒𝑐𝑒𝑖𝑣𝑒𝑑, 𝑏𝑢𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑤𝑜𝑚𝑎𝑛 𝑏𝑒𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑑𝑒𝑐𝑒𝑖𝑣𝑒𝑑, 𝑓𝑒𝑙𝑙 𝑖𝑛𝑡𝑜 𝑡𝑟𝑎𝑛𝑠𝑔𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑠𝑖𝑜𝑛. 15𝑁𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑙𝑒𝑠𝑠 𝑠ℎ𝑒 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑏𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑣𝑒𝑑 𝑖𝑛 𝑐ℎ𝑖𝑙𝑑𝑏𝑒𝑎𝑟𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝑖𝑓 𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑦 𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑡𝑖𝑛𝑢𝑒 𝑖𝑛 𝑓𝑎𝑖𝑡ℎ, 𝑙𝑜𝑣𝑒, 𝑎𝑛𝑑 ℎ𝑜𝑙𝑖𝑛𝑒𝑠𝑠, 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑠𝑒𝑙𝑓-𝑐𝑜𝑛𝑡𝑟𝑜𝑙."
Allie Beth Stuckey never specified that the biblical teachings on her channel is intended only for women (I do not think that children can understand eschatology) what shows in her, for a woman who knows the word well, a partiality or even a disobedience of the command of 1 Timothy 2, precisely by making a channel that can indirectly teach men 🤷♂: what he is forbidden to do for a woman of God.
Ironically, Allie Beth Stuckey taught on this topic on a video called: "Female Pastors? | Ep 129".
She believes like me that women cannot be pastors, which is biblical BUT strangely, for some reason, she does not include herself in this verse, what if not logical. Like you, she believes that 1 Timothy 2:12 concerns only the Church - building, which is a sophism, sorry, because women in Christ have the right to evangelize/preach in the street. So think about it... The question is:
where's the limit for women on the street about "teaching" men? Do you believe that because they preach OUTSIDE of the Church, 1 Timothy 2:9-15 does not apply to them, when they preach or teach sinners/men or when they are next to street preachers (men) or when they think in their mind, they should rebuke and advise street preachers "how to preach" OR even "what preachers should teach", instead... (this happens many time on the street)❓
@@e.clinton7681 church is an institution, everything else is fair game. I think there was a woman in the time of Paul who had to preach because there were not available men. But once again she doesn't control her audience. It's on the men. She doesn't have to not teach because someone may stumble. It's on them.
@@e.clinton7681 I think the woman's name was Lydia
@@e.clinton7681 nah, it was Phebe
You are wrong about the classic traditional view of Christianity being pre-Millennial perspective. pre-Millennialism has only been a thought in the church since 1800's with the teachings of John Nelson Darby, The classic traditional view of the Church and Christianity has been a-millennialist or Post-millennialist perspective for almost 2,000 yrs of Christianity, you saying that a new idea for the church, aka, the futurist view is the classic and traditional view is just not factual, it is a new idea, and started by John Nelson Darby, in 1800, then was taken by William Miller in 1833, it was called Millerism, Ellen White got a hold of and it became, 7th Day Adventists. The view up and until the 1800, was a Post-millennialist and partial preterist, meaning that every thing except for the 2nd coming of Christ was fulfilled in A.D. 70 with the sacking of Jerusalem and the destruction of the the temple.
She’s speaking of historic premillennialism (not dispensational premillennialism, which was birthed in the mid 1800s). Historic premillennialism was indeed the earliest and most traditional view of the early church - held by fathers such as Barnabas, Papias, Polycarp, Ignatius, Irenaeus, and Justin Martyr, many who knew the apostle Johns. It wasn’t until Augustine that amillennialism became the dominant position. Those who held to anti-premillennialism eschatologies in the early church also rejected the canonicity of the book of Revelation and were a part of the Alexandrian school of thought, which taught a platonic view of Christianity (paganism mixed with Christianity basically. Postmillennialism didn’t come into the church until the late Middle Ages towards the end of the Reformation/beginning of the Puritan Age. The historic premillennialists of the first four centuries saw a balance between the events of the destruction of the temple in AD 70 and the second coming. You should look up historic premillennialism. It’s covenantal (not dispensational), does not see a sharp distinction between the church and Israel, and does not hold to a secret rapture. It is indeed the earliest eschatology found in church history - far before amillennialism and postmillennialism.
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As for why anything pre-Millennialist, it is wrong because it turns Christ into a false prophet and liar. Because in Matthew 24:34 it says, "I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened." Also in Mark 13:30 it says the same thing, as well as Luke 21:32. In all Bible study we are told, that if something is repeated, that it not only important, because it is being confirmed out of the words of two or three witnesses. This generation, means within the 40 yrs, this matters because it was 33 A.D. so, the destruction of the temple would have to happen by 73 A.D. for Christ to be an actual prophet, well what do you know, the siege and or sacking of Jerusalem and the total destruction of the temple happen 70 A.D. and Matthew 28:18 at Christ Ascension states, "And Jesus came spoke to them saying, 'ALL AUTHORITY has been given to me IN HEAVEN and ON EARTH' and it is for this reason, we are given, "The Great Commission", which we know because it says in 19, "Go therefore and make disciples of All nation's, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the son and of the Holy Spirit." If Christ is not reigning, there is no need for, "The Great Commission" either. The pre-Millennial perspective presupposes that Christ didn't know what "this generation" meant. It also states in John 12:31-32 " 'Now is the time for the judgement on this world; now the prince of this world will be driven out, but when I am lifted up from the earth, I will draw all men to myself' " Christ death drove Satan, aka,the prince of this world out and His ascension is Him reigning in Heaven and ON earth. We know Revelation had to be written before A.D. 70 because John in Revelation 11:1, "Then there was given me a rod like a staff and someone said, "Get up and measure the Temple of God and the alter and those that worship in it." John could not have measured it if it wasn't there anymore. You need to get on your Amazon Prime, look up "R.C. Sproul, the Eschatology of Christ" teaching series. But any pre-Millennial perspective on Eschatology turns Christ into a false prophet and that is a terrifying place to be.
Um. You do know. The rapture and the 2nd coming are 2 completely different things?
In the rapture the church leaves. In the 2nd coming. Every saint of God is coming back with him.
Also in the rapture. No one will see Jesus but those that are raptured with him. And Jesus will not touch the earth.
In the 2nd coming Jesus comes and lands on Mount Olivet and everyone will see him
Amen!! I absolutely agree with you!
Anyone Preterist?
Hope not! The notion that all prophecies have been fulfilled is so easily proven false I don't see how anyone could be preterist outside of outright delusion. Seriously!
@letsgetitright then I guess it would actually be good for them to be here. 🙂
Yes. Hyper/Full Preterism is heresy. Partial Preterism, which I fervently affirm, is not heresy. It's scripture.
@@natemiller6854 It depends on how you view prophecy. If you think Antichrist and the mark of the beast are already past you have embraced error.
@@letsgetitright35 You are so wrong that you should change your username.
I think you are a wise lady....you must be a lot older than you look...LOL.
She likes hearing from her listeners/watchers. . annnd she blocked me from her instagram page because of George Floyd. lol
There's tribulation, then there's the great tribulation, aka the time of Jacob's trouble. Eschatology is about God turning His attention back on Israel... The real Israel. We are not Israel... This matters.
Jesus said that like a snare it will come upon the whole world, not just Israel. Dispensational theology is a false construct and presents MANY conflicts with the Bible in the area of eschatology and election. The notion that believing Gentiles are a separate elect from the Jews who turn and embrace faith in the last days is SOoooooo contrary to the teachings of Romans 11, Ephesians 2, and Galatians 3 that it absolutely amazes me the way a dispensationalist will toss out the concept of 'one new man in Christ' and hold to the bogus 'Separation Theology' of the false teacher Darby (who condemned himself with his (per)version of the Bible he concocted)!
Let's Get It Right! I don't think that's what I said or meant. Believing Jews are part of the church. God is not finished with secular, sinful Israel.
Let's Get It Right! I never said any of the things you seem to think we all believe. To me your comment is straw man.
Let's Get It Right! Well said
Anti christ seems like a cool guy
To fools, absolutely.
I imagine you'll follow him right into the lake of fire.
Follow who?
Brian Damage I’m surprised a person like this even watched the video. Must have a lot of time on his hands or looking for people to argue with.