Christian Eschatology Explained
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Let's discuss the different viewpoints Christians have on the end times. If you want to do further study on these views, here are the books I mention in this video and also the part 2 video.
Amillennial Futurism
Joseph Meiring - The Four Keys to the Millennium amzn.to/3sITbqA
Premillennial Futurism
Three Views on the Rapture amzn.to/3DPRHkt
Charles Ryrie - The Basis of the Premillennial Faith amzn.to/3fjPHro
George E. Ladd - The Gospel of the Kingdom amzn.to/3fmdBCE
Premillennial Historicism
Henry Grattan Guinness - The Approaching End of the Age amzn.to/3SPkmdF
Ellen G White - The Great Controversy amzn.to/3DKIKsQ
Amillennial Idealism
Sam Waldron - The End Times Made Simple amzn.to/3SR47wN
Sam Waldron - More End Times Made Simple amzn.to/3U4R2S9
Anthony A Hoekema - The Bible and the Future amzn.to/3TRlnmM
Postmillennial Idealism
RJ Rushdoony - Thy Kingdom Come amzn.to/3TNyJQZ
Amillennial Preterism
Craig Koester - Revelation and the End of All Things amzn.to/3NiXv9b
Postmillennial Preterism
Jay Rogers - In The Days of These Kings amzn.to/3DlaiDE
Doug Wilson - Heaven Misplaced amzn.to/3DiyK8F
Greg Bahnsen - Victory in Jesus amzn.to/3Fp4o77
Full Preterism
Ed Stevens - What Happened in A.D. 70 amzn.to/3sFEt3q
Premillennial Preterism
Duncan McKenzie - The Antichrist and the Second Coming Part I - Daniel amzn.to/3TSOZAu
Duncan McKenzie - The Antichrist and the Second Coming Part II - Revelation amzn.to/3fguazI
J Stuart Russell - The Parousia amzn.to/3SQvl6y
Realized Eschatology
CH Dodd - The Coming of Christ amzn.to/3DJhsml
John A.T. Robinson - Jesus and His Coming amzn.to/3fgYPgp
Consistent Eschatology
Albert Schweitzer - The Mystery of the Kingdom of God amzn.to/3DH36TI
Eclecticism
Sam Storms - Kingdom Come amzn.to/3sICfjR
Bryan Tabb - All Things New amzn.to/3FqdG2N
G.K. Beale - Revelation A Shorter Commentary amzn.to/3fm6071
The links above are affiliate links, you can support the channel by using them as I may receive some small percentage from Amazon if you make a purchase.
*Correction* 12:20 says "Millennium is before the Second Coming" and should read "Second Coming is Before the Millennium."
Click here to download the chart or to read the transcripts: readytoharvest.com/christian-eschatology-chart/
Books for further study:
*Amillennial Futurism*
Joseph Meiring - The Four Keys to the Millennium amzn.to/3sITbqA
*Premillennial Futurism*
Three Views on the Rapture amzn.to/3DPRHkt
Charles Ryrie - The Basis of the Premillennial Faith amzn.to/3fjPHro
George E. Ladd - The Gospel of the Kingdom amzn.to/3fmdBCE
*Premillennial Historicism*
Henry Grattan Guinness - The Approaching End of the Age amzn.to/3SPkmdF
Ellen G White - The Great Controversy amzn.to/3DKIKsQ
*Amillennial Idealism*
Sam Waldron - The End Times Made Simple amzn.to/3SR47wN
Sam Waldron - More End Times Made Simple amzn.to/3U4R2S9
Anthony A Hoekema - The Bible and the Future amzn.to/3TRlnmM
*Postmillennial Idealism*
RJ Rushdoony - Thy Kingdom Come amzn.to/3TNyJQZ
*Amillennial Preterism*
Craig Koester - Revelation and the End of All Things amzn.to/3NiXv9b
*Postmillennial Preterism*
Jay Rogers - In The Days of These Kings amzn.to/3DlaiDE
Doug Wilson - Heaven Misplaced amzn.to/3DiyK8F
Greg Bahnsen - Victory in Jesus amzn.to/3Fp4o77
*Full Preterism*
Ed Stevens - What Happened in A.D. 70 amzn.to/3sFEt3q
*Premillennial Preterism*
Duncan McKenzie - The Antichrist and the Second Coming Part I - Daniel amzn.to/3TSOZAu
Duncan McKenzie - The Antichrist and the Second Coming Part II - Revelation amzn.to/3fguazI
J Stuart Russell - The Parousia amzn.to/3SQvl6y
*Realized Eschatology*
CH Dodd - The Coming of Christ amzn.to/3DJhsml
John A.T. Robinson - Jesus and His Coming amzn.to/3fgYPgp
*Consistent Eschatology*
Albert Schweitzer - The Mystery of the Kingdom of God amzn.to/3DH36TI
*Eclecticism*
Sam Storms - Kingdom Come amzn.to/3sICfjR
Bryan Tabb - All Things New amzn.to/3FqdG2N
G.K. Beale - Revelation A Shorter Commentary amzn.to/3fm6071
The links above are affiliate links, you can support the channel by using them as I may receive some small percentage from Amazon if you make a purchase.
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Jesus sets His city down on the footings of the old Jerusalem, right?
It seems like the dramatic entrance from the East, descending on clouds, would have to come before that.
On a side note, when God told the Israelites to genocide the various Canaanite tribes, He never intended them to do it.
Just like when He said not to eat of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, the perfect plan to destroy evil once and for all depended upon human fallibility.
Without Eve's Son to crush the head of the serpent, the chief demon would have spent the rest of time just tripping the humans up and getting in the way, but never really being addressed.
If the Israelites has destroyed the Jebusites, then God's eternal city would have a different name, and Jerusalem would not be a word that will last for all eternity.
@YAJUN YUAN I notice it is Apostolic and SDA.
Thank you for listing all of those books, and giving the Amazon links, on the differing views of eschatology. I appreciate your channel and I have never heard your sarcastic humor before. That was funny.
This material is hard to follow. I'm one of those not "deep in understanding of Christian eschatology" so I had to pause several times and scratch my head when "left behind" was described as "futurist pretribulation rapture premelineal" at 11:20... and just as I finally thought I was understanding and could move on, the error noted at 12:20 popped up, and I was like wait... wasn't the whole point of premelineal that the second coming precedes it? Literally broke my brain. Then I immediately came hunting for the comment.... Thanks for the correction!
John is the ultimate Gigachad
>writes letter about end times
>uses heavy, almost undeciraphable symbolism
>refuses to elaborate
>dies peacefully of old age on Patmos
Amazing thing about scripture is it interprets scripture.
So curious what a symbol means. Word search it, read everywhere it comes up. Bam! Usually get a pretty straightforward meaning. Occasionally because of translation got to dig deeper by topical search. But is actually pretty straightforward. If you have a Bible (and time.) A Concordance (less time.), A Bible app with a search function. (Even less time.). But read all the verses because sometimes there could be a couple verses that give a definition. Also test how it fits. Ie go back to the symbol and see if the structure makes sense.
Also in my experience, typology of books matters, example prophecy to prophecy, historical to historical etc. Not always but usually an answer is in a similar book topically.
@Thnickaman
You realize Scripture comes from God, right?
Critiquing His style is sort of acceptable if done reverently, I suppose, but this is the work of the Holy Spirit through one of Bis holy scribes.
It's dangerous, is what I'm saying.
And yet God allows Revelations to be part of the Torah(Bible)
Everything that matters about God's plan of Man ... is in Genesis .. including the Messiah being God's "only begotten Son.".
God is Spirit ... timeless ... & eternal.
God created the Universe ... with space, laws, matter, energy & ... TIME.
Man was created in God's likeness with a body & soul ... to live forever with God as His Children ... but will die .... if he sins (breaks God's law).
God is just and must punish all who sin with death(body & soul).
No ifs or buts You break God's law, you die.
And the moment Adam & Eve sinned they began to die .. and the Universe where have to day began.
And when your body dies .. the soul leaves the Universe which has time... and enters the timeless spirit realm.
God deliberately had a 6 day creation & the 7th Day belongs to ... God.
God mentions in the Torah that 1 day is like a year ... or ... 1000 years.
Jesus(Son of God) prophesied to return for a 1 000 year reign with 144 000 Jewish believers who were killed during the tribulation ... while the dead & living believers join Jesus forever in Heaven.
There no time in Heaven or Hell.
When you die ... you soul goes straight to judgement day in year 7 000 since the Fall for those alive on Earth .. to either join Jesus or be sent to Hell.
This is why Jesus 2000 years ago warned believers to always be ready for His return ... because you do not know the day or hour ... that you will die
6 x 1000 years Man rules the earth
1 x 1000 years God rules the earth
Judgement Day
New Heaven & Earth with God living with His Children forever.
There is only the pre-millennium position .. and the complete Torah(Bible) fully explains end time events.
And Jesus in Mathew 24 ... warned believers of false teachings & teachers, they will go through the tribulation and be killed, thre will be a great falling away, and you can lose your salvation.
Once you know the fundamentals from the Torah(Bible), you then begin to see how John was prophesying end time events especially everything during the tribulation.
the ENTIRE Bible is not the Torah(Law)
@@planatano_ Messianic Jews Zev Porat would say otherwise.
Rabbinic Judaism made the TaNaK the Bible .. and the Torah the 5 books of Moses.
Judaism today originates from the Pharisee sect of Judaism in 14 Nisan 30 BC ... that rejected a Rabbi from their sect called Yeshua claiming to be the promised Messiah & the Son of God, suddenly said Isaiah 53 is about Israel not the Messiah, and Christianity is a pagan Roman & greek religion with their "New Testament" having nothing to do with the Torah(Hebrew Bible).
I've studied Christian theology, including eschatology, for over 25 years and have changed my end-times views twice. It's a highly complex subject. I'm very impressed by the clarity, accuracy, and degree of detail you were able to compress into a 20-minute video.
Hey Doug. Where did you land? I grew up being taught a pretribulational rapture, but in my late 20's after much study I was convinced that the pre-wrath position was more biblical. I like talking to those to think through their positions, rather than someone just blindly repeating what they grew up with.
@@JDsVarietyChannel JD, I grew up Mormon but was saved in a dispensational Bible church in my early 20's. As I studied the Bible, I began moving toward Reformed theology and Amillennialism. More recently I've moved toward partial preterism, still within the Amillennial framework. Of course, I embrace as brothers and sisters all those who hold to the simple, basic truths of the Gospel, however much we differ in non-essentials. God bless!
@@Dougeb7 Thanks for your cordial response Doug. I wish you all the best as you pursue Christ. When possible, I also strive not to let differences divide.
@@JDsVarietyChannel
What you need to know about the rapture:
th-cam.com/video/hjF1jdoN4KM/w-d-xo.html
@YAJUN YUAN Rapture isn't even in the Bible.
I'm starting to get a little bit freaked out by the sheer scale of this guy's scholarship. I've watched 3 or 4 of his videos now, and as deep as the rabbit hole goes, this guy pretty much knows it all. Very impressive stuff.
He's a professor; I am glad he knows his stuff! 🙂
I would expect this level of clarity from a 70 year old not from a youth.
He could be autistic and denominations are his hyperfixation. Or he's just a very studious individual.
"And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled." (Revelation 15:8)
The fact that you clarified the nativity scene as actually being in their house per Matthew earned me as a subscriber. Well done.
I really like this channel. Thank you for teaching us at no charge. This is all really complicated to me, not going to lie, but I enjoy it. I've been getting back into Christianity and I'm trying to find the right Church for me
-Ken A.
Don't try to find the "right church for you." Go to a Traditional Catholic Mass and celebrate the Wedding Feast of our Lord. This is the Church Jesus Christ started and maintains. Conform your worldview to the Bible, don't conform the Bible to your worldview.
Read your Bible and that's how you know what you believe. Then read the Statement of Faith for different churches & that will help start you on knowing which denomination is closest to your beliefs. Don't be afraid to ask the pastor questions about specific topics. If he doesn't give you a clear answer, run! PS. Nowhere in the Bible does it say to pray to Mary or other dead people. We have a direct line to God through Christ Jesus!
@@lilacsandroses51 Sola Scriptura is not Biblical. The Bible does not forbid Christians to pray to the Saints. The Saints are not dead as they're alive in Christ. Ironic eh! As an evangelical Christian the more I investigate the Catholic Christian faith's teachings the more I become convinced Jesus appointed Peter to start the Catholic Church. It is also interesting we have early historical documents that confirm those Christians celebrated the Eucharist and viewed the Virgin Mary as without sin. Dare you also to get to know some Catholic Christians, even priests and pose your questions. I have discovered many Protestant Christians have misconceptions of what Roman Catholics actually believe. God bless, from a Kiwi Christian looking forward to becoming a Roman Catholic Christian.
@@richardfitzpatrick216 Well you are wrong, you are joining a religion that will soon be destroyed and if you understood Revelation you would know it.
@Richard Fitzpatrick
I have hidden your words in my heart, not I have gone to hear somebody explain your words to me.
Do you really believe only eunuchs can read and understand Scripture?
Jesus sent the Helper, who teaches us all things.
Sola scriptura certainly is in Scripture.
Man, my head is spinning. And that's even with your video which lays it out better than I have seen before. You are right that lots of people throw these terms around without explanation, so thank you for doing this!
Oh my gosh, I can’t tell you how much I appreciated this video!! I am watching it now for the second time.
I can’t wait for Tuesday evening! I placed it on my calendar and I have the notification button turned on!!
Thank you!!!!
Thank you Pixie! So glad the video was helpful.
Loved your display of humor in this video. You should let your humor shine through more often. Definitely had me laughing.
Agreed. The polite sarcasm was unexpected and made me chuckle.
And the way many Christians handle their conflicting views viz. all this is laughable. Otherwise you'll weep!
@@PUAlum Unlike science which has a perfect consensus on all the important issues....right
@@iamunamed5800 they are saying christians think things that cannot coexist such as an all powerful god and a devil he cannot get rid of, you are saying that scientists come to different conclusions on the same thing
so you christians have conflicting views unlike science
He could get rid of satan if he wanted to lol
I will probably have to watch this 2 or 3 times, but no other video out there has this much information organized and packed into 20 minutes.
Useful charts is also a great channel..it has also helped educate me a lot🙂🙏
It would be awesome to see this turned into a series (with anthropology, soteriology, hamartiology, protology, and theories of the interval between death and judgment, for example). Awesome videos! Your channel fills a great niche, and your careful and charitable presentation is fantastic.
I appreciated your professor style dad jokes!
Thank you so much for this! A lot of academic terminology like “millennial” and “pre/post millennial” can be really confusing and hard to wrap your head around as a lay person
Dear Kevin,
There is no such thing as a lay person (at least, not in the body of Christ). Such language is brought forth from the denominations and their mother, the Catholic Church, who esteem their priests, pastors, bishops, etc. to be above their congregation.
While certainly, within the body of Christ, there are some with more understanding of the scriptures than others, however, it does not make one less intelligent or of less importance.
The idea of laity is not of God. There may be different members in the body of Christ, but yet we are one body, and of the same Spirit. One is not any more exalted above the other.
*1 Corinthians 12:20-27 (KJV)*
20 But now are they many members, yet but one body.
21 And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of thee: nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you.
22 Nay, much more those members of the body, which seem to be more feeble, are necessary:
23 and those members of the body, which we think to be less honourable, upon these we bestow more abundant honour; and our uncomely parts have more abundant comeliness.
24 For our comely parts have no need: but God hath tempered the body together, having given more abundant honour to that part which lacked:
25 that there should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for another.
26 And whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it; or one member be honoured, all the members rejoice with it. 27 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.
Jesus said unto Peter:
*Matthew 16:16-17 (KJV)*
16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-jona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
and, it is written:
*Psalm 111:10 (KJV)*
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: A good understanding have all they that do his commandments: His praise endureth for ever.
Yea, the word of God is a deep well, but it is God that bestows upon one revelation and understanding of his words. You, my friend, are able to have a understanding of the word of God for yourself. But you must seek God for it. Flesh and blood cannot reveal to you the deep things of God, only God can.
You will not draw nigh to God by spending time consuming theology and nonsensical terminologies that only serve to further confuse you. Go to God in humbleness and seek him in his word (KJV for English speakers) and he will give you understanding.
You are not a layman Kevin.
There are only two sets of people in this world, those who know God and those who don't. But, you can know God and his Son Jesus. In fact, you must know him...he said so himself:
*John 17:3*
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
The way of salvation, according to the Bible:
th-cam.com/video/SLK5CdR0ojc/w-d-xo.html
@@titus3_1-7 I was about to say all that . Thanks . Most can’t just listen to Jesus . Hebrews 1:1,2,3 They insist on false Christ , false prophets, false priests, false pastors, false apostles……..the usual falsities. !!!
I love the snarky humor in the commentary. I'm not used to seeing that side of Josh come out, and it's a refreshing change.
I have always wondered about this and while I am still somewhat confused, this is a good explanation
This channel is one of the best channels on TH-cam - thank you for your clear explanations and succinct presentations (along with your downloads for self-study).
This is the video I've been waiting for! I think a couple weeks ago I tried to see if RTH had a video on this, because I really didn't understand the basic views. Thank you so much! This is going to be a video I keep coming back to.
Thank you so much for all of your work, brother! It has blessed me and brought such clarity to my life.
It is really wonderful that you came along with all the info you have and I got to enjoy it and learn from it. Thank you so much Joshua!
This is the best resource on the subject I have ever seen. Well done!
Excellent video! Great to have all this information in one place. The graphs were very helpful.
Excellent work as always, Joshua. This was so well done.
This is one of the best channels out there for theological information, love it.
Scott Hahn and Jimmy Akin are primarily Preterist in their interpretation, but are not shy about the fact that verses can be preterist in their primary meaning, but also futurist, idealist, and historicist in their secondary meanings.
@YAJUN YUAN no, that is nonsense and just geographically incorrect. Vatican Hill is not one of the 7 hills of Rome-it is on the wrong side of the Tiber…
@@carsonianthegreat4672 What other seven hill are you referring too ? Mecca
The Torah(Bible) is a mostly historical account and prophecy .. and is absolutely ONLY pre-millennim.
God is on a 7 x 1000 year salvation plan, which is why He had a 6 day creation & the 7th day belongs to Him.
And God is Spirit .. timeless & eternal ... who created the Universe with TIME & Man with a body & soul.
There is no time in Heaven or Hell. Once the body dies the soul goes straight to judgement Day in the year 7 000 since the Fall for those alive on Earth.
All four views need to accept the core facts about God, Creation, Man, and the Torah(Bible)..
God created Man in His likeness ... to live forever as His Children ... but they must no sin(break God's law).
God is just an must punish the sin of Man ... with death (body & soul) ... in Hell.
Hell was created to punish Fallen Angels forever. Hell destroys the human body & soul ... in three days for those on Earth. This is why Jesus had to go to Hell for 3 days ... to satisfy a just God.
End time prophesies involving Jesus & believers immediately make sense when there is no time .. in Heaven or Hell.
This is why Jesus returns in the year 6 000 to rule the Earth for 1000 years with 144 000 Jewish believers murdered during the tribulation ... and ... the dead & living believers are "raptured" to to Heaven to be with Jesus forever. And Revelations says this is the "First resurrection." Jesus is ruling over the nonbelieving survivors of the tribulation. There are going to be believers during the Millennium Reign ... and then in the year 7000 ... there is a 2nd resurrection of the dead & living believers.
So the first rapture is the believers during Man's 6 x 1000 year reign.
And the 2nd rapture is the beleivers during God's 1 x 1000 year reign.
See. It's pre-Millennium, on a 7 x 1000 year plan, with theere being no time in Heaven or Hell.
And the current Jewish year since the Fall of Man is ... 5783.
Christian scholars have incorrectly set a date which exceeds God's 7 x 1000 year plan.
God had a reason for Creation being six days ... and the 7th belongs to Him.
God created the solar system, day, month, year and seasons.
God always knew what He would have to do to save His Children from His just Nature.
@@abelincoln8885 NOPE 😱😂
Very good neutral and unbiased analysis! As an amillennial preterist, I think you did a great job representing my views (which are very close to Akin’s). Very interested in seeing you cover Schweitzer in your follow-up, he’s both really interesting and kind of annoying to deal with in terms of debates around Christianity with how many atheists tend to treat his work as more of an authoritiative gospel than the actual Gospels.
Good job. I have just recently changed my eschatological position and this has been helpful. I appreciate your efforts.
Very well researched and presented, packaging a very complex topic in a all in one place presentation. The chart is something I would like to see available for purchase. I also appreciate your notating the proponents of each view, which provides a bibliographical resource for further study of that view.
This was a very ambitious topic, and did a good job at it. A follow up video that spends more time explaining which groups hold which views might be useful and effective.
I asked you to do this video a while back and so glad you did. Your charts and illustrations are great. Glory to God
Wow, that was quite a ride.
I went to Catholic school for 12 years and this was never studied. I was always told that it was preferable to worry about your own salvation rather than some future events we will not live to see.
You were told correctly. And I understand the school not bothering to teach this as it mostly a waste of time and resources. However, curiosity about the things of God is good; just make sure you have a full understanding of Sound Doctrine before studying with haeretics. For instance, premillenarism is absolutely unacceptable.
This is the traditional view. I see it as a mystical experience without interpretation. There are books similar to Revelation even among the Dead Sea Scrolls--mileage may vary. But the trumpets and the battles and all that were not uncommon themes.
Same here!
@@Thelaretus I don't think that is a sound advice. All scripture is necessary for growth. We get to know (love and trust) God better as we study diligently his word.
Thoroughly researched and efficiently presented! I love your style, subbed 👍🏻
Awesome, thank you!
Well done. I've done this research myself and I understand what it took to put this together, even considering that it's obvious you've been studying this a long time. And that might be the first joke I've ever seen on your channel - great way to nod at date-setting without really getting into it.
This is very helpful. Would love to see more videos like this comparing various positions within areas of theological studies, like soteriology and bibliology
I admit, I am a little obsessed with eschatology. Was raised charismatic rapture dispy premill and 9 yrs ago "reformed" where now my views sit somewhere in the amil/post mil/partial preterist camp. Oh man been a journey.😂 Great vid and content. Keep it up brother. God bless
You did a wonderful job of creating a working typology of these various beliefs.
Thanks for mentioning the Wise Men (Magi) coming to a house. Some people make the mistake that they came to the stable like magic when Jesus was born. Where I am from it took them a few weeks to travel to Jerusalem. By that time Joseph as a tradesman working as house builder/repairer in the towns around Jerusalem and renting a place from his cousin.
I was taught that Jesus was a toddler by then.
Thank you, Joshua.🌹🌹🌹🌹 OUCH!!!!🤕 My head hurts!!!😆
Thank you for this video in specific and channel in general. I have been involved in many discussions/arguments/debates with people of other denominations where we just went round and round without anyone understanding each other. I was unaware of the shear diversity of understanding and disagreements between different Churches.
Yes the disagreements really get nasty, sometimes with the h word being hurled at each other.
Suppose the Bible's discussion of the End Times (Eschatology = study of the End Times) is highly interesting or a central focus of your Christian experience. In that case, this video by Joshua should give you physiological goosebumps.
I've got to say, a huge amount of work went into both the research and production of this video, and he deserves recognition and acclaim for that fact. By far, it's the best I've ever listened to.
Excellent... This is something I've been searching for ❤️... Very clear explanation 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
Glad it was helpful!
Fantastic Video. Using it for Sunday School Tomorrow!
I thought they killed Sunday School. I haven't seen anything like it implemented in years
Great information. Thanks for laying it out so clearly
Easily the best video primer on eschatology I've come across.
Loved how you concisely presented this complex material!
No matter what position one camps in. It certainly appears : The promised return of Christ is soon upon us! Come Lord Jesus.
I like that you started to crack some jokes, but not so many that they overshadow the rest of the video. Thanks specifically for this video as I really struggled to grasps the basics of eschatology
Great video! I love the nuanced and respectful way you describe each tradition’s views. It’s so heartbreaking to hear some fundamentalists have a more antagonistic attitude toward liberal Protestants or Catholics than they are toward those who’d prefer Christianity is relegated to a minority religion like atheists. We all interpret the Bible differently, but it’s more important than ever that those who affirm the Resurrection stick together.
This was so dense. Thanks for the video! I think some examples would have really helped here. Like what is a representative example of an idealist take on an eschatological event? Is there a famous one where we can hear how an idealist vs a futurist has written about them, to compare?
Very helpful! Keep up the good work! 👍👍
Great video! I would love to see your take on diffrent soteriological positions
You nailed this video brother. Thank you. God bless.
This is incredible! Excellent work brother 👏 👍 🙌
one wonders how the thief on the cross got to heaven without the proper eschatological orientation.....
He was Jew who died under Jewish law, so more than likely, he agreed with Jewish eschatology. That being said, he was familiar with the teaching of Jesus on His coming into His kingdom, so he could have previously been a disciple of Jesus but was led astray into thievery. I do not know how else the thief would have learned about the kingdom teaching of Jesus unless he had been associated with those who taught what Jesus taught.
@@larrymcclain8874 I think Brian was trying to make a different point. Some people like myself are not hard-liners on eschatology. The most important part is the part most views have in common which is pre-second coming and pre-final judgment. The placement of the millennium doesn't change how I follow Christ. I believe He taught us how to prepare for His second coming in Matthew 25. When you take care of someone in need or have an opportunity to share the Gospel, the millennium doesn't factor in. All I know is that Christ could return before I finish the sentence or long after I have finished my time serving in this world of darkness.
Great stuff. Is there a Powerpoint or PDF of the chart you created? It'd be a great teaching tool and is well-thought-out and well done.
Thank you for this video! Wonderfully done!
Thank you for making this. You put this together very well... just the shear amount of views out there themselves was the confusing part
Not sure if you have seen it, but there are several other eschatological views that are not well known in his 2nd video on eschatology
Ta for this, as this is one area that I'm still confused about, especially when you mention denominational positions on this!
I'm diggin this channel brother
I'm sure someone else has mentioned it, but when you were talking about the futurist premillennialist category, you stated that they believe that the second coming is after the millennium, but all the ones that I know believe that it's tribulation (regardless of when the rapture is), second coming, millennium, great white throne judgement, then eternal state. There's some minor differences among various positions, but that's pretty much the sequence amongst that viewpoint.
Great job overall! See you there soon!
🙏✝️👑✝️🙏
Excellent explanation, thanks.
This was amazing! Thanks!
There is a really, really good explanation. Thanks
“You want to control people? Tell them a messiah will come, They'll wait for centuries.” - Chani, Dune
I appreciate this video.
please do more videos on Eastern Christianity,😭😭😭😭😭
This is so informative
Most excellent and complete overview of every eschatological position. Fantastic. Thank you.
Someone once said that Historicism is not that widespread today because it tends to die of hermeneutical exhaustion.
Similarly Futurists of any sort argue that they must be right simply because their view is always unfulfilled and therefore cannot be proven wrong. A bit like the poor donkey chasing the carrot.
Interesting also that as one scheme tends to lose popularity (dispensational premillennialism) other schemes are seeing a growing popularity eg Preterist, both partial and full.
Very interesting.
An impressively clear and fair survey!
Love the video! Do you have a link to a high def version of the chart at the end of the video?
This channel is so awesome
I appreciate the addition of the wry humour.
Would you consider creating a chart as you described that hadn't been made yet? Possibly selling it as a print for a Sunday School class or home study?
Thanks much for this video.
Joshua, Thank you for this excellent, informative episode! You have provided the framework for diligent Jesus followers to sort through all the conflicting "right answers" they are fed in arguing churches. This subject becomes hugely divisive, and few preacher-teachers take a neutral informative view. I rely solely on the Words of Christ Jesus in Matthew 24:35 & 36. However the "end times" play out, I place my complete Trust in Christ, alone. He will Shepherd us through. Blessings.
Thank you again Donald. I found myself surprised, seeing how much some churches talk about these issues, that a video like this wasn't already available. I'm glad to hear you found it to be informative! I hope to be able to make more like this on other topics in the future.
@@ReadyToHarvest I pray you will. I think I would have enjoyed your classes in Bible college. 🙏🤲🕊🤗
Thanks!
Thank you so much. I'm overwhelmed (literally) by the information you pack into a few moments. I'm going to have to watch this several times.
I find it hard to take very seriously views which are new. I.e. if there is no evidence something was believed before 1800, how can it be believed today?
Amillennialism
The amillennial view interprets Revelation 20 symbolically and sees the millennium not as an earthly golden age in which the world will be totally Christianized, but as the present period of Christ’s rule in heaven and on the earth through his Church. This was the view of the Protestant Reformers and is still the most common view among traditional Protestants.
Amillennialists also believe in the coexistence of good and evil on earth until the end. The tension that exists on earth between the righteous and the wicked will be resolved only by Christ’s return at the end of time. The golden age of the millennium is instead the heavenly reign of Christ with the saints, in which the Church on earth participates to some degree, though not in the glorious way it will at the Second Coming.
Amillennialists point out that the thrones of the saints who reign with Christ during the millennium appear to be set in heaven (Rev. 20:4; cf. 4:4, 11:16) and that the text nowhere states that Christ is on earth during this reign with the saints.
They explain that, although the world will never be fully Christianized until the Second Coming, the millennium does have effects on earth in that Satan is bound in such a way that he cannot deceive the nations by hindering the preaching of the gospel (Rev. 20:3). The millennium is a golden age not when compared to the glories of the age to come, but in comparison to all prior ages of human history, in which the world was swallowed in pagan darkness.
Premillennialism
Third on the list is premillennialism, currently the most popular among Fundamentalists and Evangelicals. Most of the books written about the End Times, such as Hal Lindsey’s Late Great Planet Earth, are written from a premillennial perspective.
Like postmillennialists, premillennialists believe that the thousand years is an earthly golden age during which the world will be thoroughly Christianized. Unlike postmillennialists, they believe that it will occur after the Second Coming rather than before, so that Christ reigns physically on earth during the millennium. They believe that the Final Judgment will occur only after the millennium is over (which many interpret to be an exactly one-thousand-year period).
But Scripture does not support the idea of a thousand year span between the Second Coming and the Final Judgment. Christ declares, “For the Son of man is to come with his angels in the glory of his Father, and then he will repay every man for what he has done” (Matt. 16:27), and “[w]hen the Son of man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate them one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. . . . And they [the goats] will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life” (Matt. 25:31-32, 46).
The Rapture
Premillennialists often give much attention to the doctrine of the “rapture.” According to this doctrine, when Christ returns, all of the elect who have died will be raised and transformed into a glorious state, along with the living elect, and then be caught up to be with Christ. The key text referring to the rapture is 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17, which states, “For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the archangel’s call, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first; then we who are alive, who are left, shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and so we shall always be with the Lord.”
Premillennialists hold, as do virtually all Christians (except certain postmillennialists), that the Second Coming will be preceded by a time of great trouble and persecution of God’s people (2 Thess. 2:1-4). This period is often called the tribulation. Until the nineteenth century, all Christians agreed that the rapture-though it was not called that at the time-would occur immediately before the Second Coming, at the close of the period of persecution. This position is today called the “post-tribulational” view because it says the rapture will come after the tribulation.
But in the 1800s, some began to claim that the rapture would occur before the period of persecution. This position, now known as the “pre-tribulational” view, also was embraced by John Nelson Darby, an early leader of a Fundamentalist movement that became known as Dispensationalism. Darby’s pre-tribulational view of the rapture was then picked up by a man named C. I. Scofield, who taught the view in the footnotes of his Scofield Reference Bible. Many Protestants who read the Scofield Reference Bible uncritically adopted the pre-tribulational view, even though no Christian had heard of it in the previous 1800 years of Church history.
Eventually, a third position developed, known as the “mid-tribulational” view, which claims that the rapture will occur during the middle of the tribulation. Finally, a fourth view developed that claims that there will not be a single rapture where all believers are gathered to Christ, but that there will be a series of mini-raptures that occur at different times with respect to the tribulation.
The problem with all of the positions (except the historic, post-tribulational view) is that they split the Second Coming into different events. In the case of the pre-trib view, Christ is thought to have three comings-one when he was born in Bethlehem, one when he returns for the rapture at the tribulation’s beginning, and one at tribulation’s end, when he establishes the millennium. This three-comings view is foreign to Scripture.
Problems with the pre-tribulational view are highlighted by Baptist (and premillennial) theologian Dale Moody, who wrote: “Belief in a pre-tribulational rapture . . . contradicts all three chapters in the New Testament that mention the tribulation and the rapture together (Mark 13:24-27; Matt. 24:26-31; 2 Thess. 2:1-12). . . . The theory is so biblically bankrupt that the usual defense is made using three passages that do not even mention a tribulation (John 14:3; 1 Thess. 4:17; 1 Cor. 15:52). These are important passages, but they have not had one word to say about a pre-tribulational rapture. . . . Pre-tribulationism is biblically bankrupt and does not know it” (The Word of Truth, 556-7).
What’s the Catholic Position?
As far as the millennium goes, we tend to agree with Augustine and, derivatively, with the amillennialists. The Catholic position has thus historically been “amillennial” (as has been the majority Christian position in general), though Catholics do not typically use this term. The Church has rejected the premillennial position, sometimes called “millenarianism” (see the Catechism of the Catholic Church 676). In the 1940s the Holy Office judged that premillennialism “cannot safely be taught,” though the Church has not dogmatically defined this issue.
With respect to the rapture, Catholics certainly believe that the event of our gathering together to be with Christ will take place, though they do not generally use the word “rapture” to refer to this event (somewhat ironically, since the term “rapture” is derived from the text of the Latin Vulgate of 1 Thess. 4:17-”we will be caught up,” [Latin: rapiemur]).
Spinning Wheels?
Many spend much time looking for signs in the heavens and in the headlines. This is especially true of premillennialists, who anxiously await the tribulation because it will inaugurate the rapture and millennium.
A more balanced perspective is given by Peter, who writes, “But do not ignore this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. . . . But according to his promise we wait for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells. Therefore, beloved, since you wait for these, be zealous to be found by him without spot or blemish, and at peace” (2 Pet. 3:8-14).
Broooo othat chart with Preterism and Futurism with the Pre/Post/A millennial views is amazin' !!
Really helpful
If the so-called rapture truly was a central tenet of christianity, then it would have been clearly defined and elaborated in the bible.....not requiring the piecing together of various verses from so many sources to come to a final magical conclusion.
Amillennialism
The amillennial view interprets Revelation 20 symbolically and sees the millennium not as an earthly golden age in which the world will be totally Christianized, but as the present period of Christ’s rule in heaven and on the earth through his Church. This was the view of the Protestant Reformers and is still the most common view among traditional Protestants.
Amillennialists also believe in the coexistence of good and evil on earth until the end. The tension that exists on earth between the righteous and the wicked will be resolved only by Christ’s return at the end of time. The golden age of the millennium is instead the heavenly reign of Christ with the saints, in which the Church on earth participates to some degree, though not in the glorious way it will at the Second Coming.
Amillennialists point out that the thrones of the saints who reign with Christ during the millennium appear to be set in heaven (Rev. 20:4; cf. 4:4, 11:16) and that the text nowhere states that Christ is on earth during this reign with the saints.
They explain that, although the world will never be fully Christianized until the Second Coming, the millennium does have effects on earth in that Satan is bound in such a way that he cannot deceive the nations by hindering the preaching of the gospel (Rev. 20:3). The millennium is a golden age not when compared to the glories of the age to come, but in comparison to all prior ages of human history, in which the world was swallowed in pagan darkness.
Premillennialism
Third on the list is premillennialism, currently the most popular among Fundamentalists and Evangelicals. Most of the books written about the End Times, such as Hal Lindsey’s Late Great Planet Earth, are written from a premillennial perspective.
Like postmillennialists, premillennialists believe that the thousand years is an earthly golden age during which the world will be thoroughly Christianized. Unlike postmillennialists, they believe that it will occur after the Second Coming rather than before, so that Christ reigns physically on earth during the millennium. They believe that the Final Judgment will occur only after the millennium is over (which many interpret to be an exactly one-thousand-year period).
But Scripture does not support the idea of a thousand year span between the Second Coming and the Final Judgment. Christ declares, “For the Son of man is to come with his angels in the glory of his Father, and then he will repay every man for what he has done” (Matt. 16:27), and “[w]hen the Son of man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne. Before him will be gathered all the nations, and he will separate them one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. . . . And they [the goats] will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life” (Matt. 25:31-32, 46).
The Rapture
Premillennialists often give much attention to the doctrine of the “rapture.” According to this doctrine, when Christ returns, all of the elect who have died will be raised and transformed into a glorious state, along with the living elect, and then be caught up to be with Christ. The key text referring to the rapture is 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17, which states, “For the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a cry of command, with the archangel’s call, and with the sound of the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first; then we who are alive, who are left, shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and so we shall always be with the Lord.”
Premillennialists hold, as do virtually all Christians (except certain postmillennialists), that the Second Coming will be preceded by a time of great trouble and persecution of God’s people (2 Thess. 2:1-4). This period is often called the tribulation. Until the nineteenth century, all Christians agreed that the rapture-though it was not called that at the time-would occur immediately before the Second Coming, at the close of the period of persecution. This position is today called the “post-tribulational” view because it says the rapture will come after the tribulation.
But in the 1800s, some began to claim that the rapture would occur before the period of persecution. This position, now known as the “pre-tribulational” view, also was embraced by John Nelson Darby, an early leader of a Fundamentalist movement that became known as Dispensationalism. Darby’s pre-tribulational view of the rapture was then picked up by a man named C. I. Scofield, who taught the view in the footnotes of his Scofield Reference Bible. Many Protestants who read the Scofield Reference Bible uncritically adopted the pre-tribulational view, even though no Christian had heard of it in the previous 1800 years of Church history.
Eventually, a third position developed, known as the “mid-tribulational” view, which claims that the rapture will occur during the middle of the tribulation. Finally, a fourth view developed that claims that there will not be a single rapture where all believers are gathered to Christ, but that there will be a series of mini-raptures that occur at different times with respect to the tribulation.
The problem with all of the positions (except the historic, post-tribulational view) is that they split the Second Coming into different events. In the case of the pre-trib view, Christ is thought to have three comings-one when he was born in Bethlehem, one when he returns for the rapture at the tribulation’s beginning, and one at tribulation’s end, when he establishes the millennium. This three-comings view is foreign to Scripture.
Problems with the pre-tribulational view are highlighted by Baptist (and premillennial) theologian Dale Moody, who wrote: “Belief in a pre-tribulational rapture . . . contradicts all three chapters in the New Testament that mention the tribulation and the rapture together (Mark 13:24-27; Matt. 24:26-31; 2 Thess. 2:1-12). . . . The theory is so biblically bankrupt that the usual defense is made using three passages that do not even mention a tribulation (John 14:3; 1 Thess. 4:17; 1 Cor. 15:52). These are important passages, but they have not had one word to say about a pre-tribulational rapture. . . . Pre-tribulationism is biblically bankrupt and does not know it” (The Word of Truth, 556-7).
What’s the Catholic Position?
As far as the millennium goes, we tend to agree with Augustine and, derivatively, with the amillennialists. The Catholic position has thus historically been “amillennial” (as has been the majority Christian position in general), though Catholics do not typically use this term. The Church has rejected the premillennial position, sometimes called “millenarianism” (see the Catechism of the Catholic Church 676). In the 1940s the Holy Office judged that premillennialism “cannot safely be taught,” though the Church has not dogmatically defined this issue.
With respect to the rapture, Catholics certainly believe that the event of our gathering together to be with Christ will take place, though they do not generally use the word “rapture” to refer to this event (somewhat ironically, since the term “rapture” is derived from the text of the Latin Vulgate of 1 Thess. 4:17-”we will be caught up,” [Latin: rapiemur]).
Spinning Wheels?
Many spend much time looking for signs in the heavens and in the headlines. This is especially true of premillennialists, who anxiously await the tribulation because it will inaugurate the rapture and millennium.
A more balanced perspective is given by Peter, who writes, “But do not ignore this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. . . . But according to his promise we wait for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells. Therefore, beloved, since you wait for these, be zealous to be found by him without spot or blemish, and at peace” (2 Pet. 3:8-14).
@@richlopez5896 Uh, I don't know if the owner of this bot monitors replies, but you might want to double check your code, it seems to be broken and spamming the comments with this same reply. I think that goes against youtube's terms of service.
Right. Be cautious of any big doctrines that aren't explicitly taught in the Bible. Rapture teachers shamelessly take verses out of context.
Yeah, as I see it, separating the Rapture from the Second Coming, is an unintended quirk of Dispensationalism. Dispensationalism teaches that God has two peoples: an earthly one (Israel) and a spiritual one (the Church). But all end times texts only mention Israel in the end times, so then it becomes necessary to remove the Church from the timeline (literally) in order to uphold a particular Literalist interpretation.
Okay, going to need to keep this video close at hand. Never really paid much attention to eschatology was always a little two convoluted and Arcane for my tastes. But just clarifying the distinctions like this helps me get a good place to start
Excellent video!
Josh can you drop a link to that first chart you showed? I would love to have it for reference when I speak to friends about this topic!
Hello, and greetings. I'm new to your channel and have watched a couple videos. Which denomination are you? Can you do a video on denominations and Scripture? Not just their view of it, but adherence as well. Thank you.
An important teaching on denominations, according to the scriptures:
th-cam.com/video/zZGn1Da9yvs/w-d-xo.html
I love your channel. Thank you!
Technical question from an online teacher...your presentation of your script is excellent. Do you use a teleprompter? A teleprompting app? I'd love to know what you use.
I use a "little prompter" device to reflect a small computer screen up at the camera. On that screen I just use Microsoft word in read mode and use a wireless keyboard to advance the script one page at a time. (About 5 lines on each digital page). I can't stand scrolling teleprompters.
@@ReadyToHarvest I have a hard time with scrolling as well. Thank you!
Hi there! Thank you for this. Would we be able to have access to that helpful chart you created? Thanks!
Wonderful explanation. What's the idea that you hold on to, brother?
Well done!
It would have been fun for you to throw in your presentation, the “cosmic week” idea with this, which most people think is just held by SDA, but is also the teaching of Orthodox Judaism based on how the Hebrew is read in the jots and tittles (specifically the crowns) of Genesis 1:1.
I’m not and SDA, or an Orthodox Jew, but have heard it taught by both, and they are surprisingly very close in their teachings.
Good stuff!
Interesting discussion. I would like more on this. You did a great job! I think I just don’t know. And as I heard someone say recently, “God does not have to put all his cards on the table.”
Dear Regina,
God has already revealed the end from beginning in great detail. Even as he did unto Moses with the children of Israel, so has he done unto the entire world by means of the scriptures.
There is nothing really hidden. All is written there in his holy word (KJV for English speakers). It is just that, some things are hidden, waiting to be revealed at the appropriate time...even as it was with the crucifixion and resurrection of the Lord Jesus.
An important teaching, according to the word of God:
th-cam.com/video/KxQYnEvWu1I/w-d-xo.html
@@titus3_1-7 “no one knows the day or the hour.” I was not talking about the entire plan of salvation and eternity.
Wow! I was raised Church of God evening light. Though I am a Reformed Baptist by conviction I still attend to worship there. They are a small group, wasn't expecting to hear them referenced.
Thanks for your broad and objective presentation. I was not familiar with the idealist perspective, so thanks for teaching me. I'm a futurist (mostly) with a post tribulation rapture view for my pre-millennial view. I'd say at least the first three seals are currently under way, possibly the fourth as well.
So much to take in that my head is spinning! 😅
You speak so well - you should host Christian Jeopardy!
So fascinating
Thankyou about your fantastic eschatological teaching ,but I have one question that q is matt 10:23 and 16:27-28 can you explain to us ?
Wow, this was good.
Please tell me this chart is available on your website. I would love to be able to look over this chart in detail.
Very lnteresting stuff!
Best explanation and coordination of events is explained by Derrick Walker on his TH-cam videos, ties it all in neatly with Daniels 70 weeks including connection with historical events such as Artexurce decree in Ezra 7 and Christs resurrection which appears to correlate well with the 490 years in Daniel or 70 weeks, or 70 times 7 which equals 490 years. This puts us in the Church age, which is after Christs death and resurrection.
Where can I find that chart of yours?