@ I thought you would have left the country after your girl got trounced. The Giants have actually gotten worse since Jones left, you’re too stupid to know that.
The Giants definitely need to clean house, all signs point to Daboll being hard to work with behind the scenes and Schoens drafting has simply been subpar.
By now, the Giants should have been done rebuilding and starting to be competitive. Instead, every season is less and less wins. Now, everybody's saying they need to be rebuilt. True, but it's going to take another 5 seasons of losing before anything positive happens.
They have to resist the temptation of winning when they go against a playoff team that puts their 3rd string in there to save the good players for the playoffs. They need a top QB and won't get one if they start winning a few games.
If daboll/schoen "deserve" a 4th year, then they essentially are guaranteed 5 or 6 years. If they pick a bust QB out of desperation, then why would any GM/HC want to come here? Get rid of them both and use the #1 or #2 overall pick as a reason to get a great GM/HC with a fresh start
What do you mean "fooled into firing the coach but not the GM?" Most GMs cycle through multiple coaches before getting fired because it takes longer to assess how well they are doing their job. And then you have guys like George Young who had some awful drafts and head coaches and then eventually he hired Parcells and they became the greatest GM/coach combination in Giant history.
I understand the criticisms of the coach and GM, but what about the owner? Mr. Mara is the one who keeps hiring and making some final monetary/staffing decisions. Maybe we won't be successful until we move on from current ownership??
I think everyone criticizes the owner. People don’t focus on it because there’s nothing that can be done about it (the Mara’s aren’t selling the team so it is what it is)
So you think giving them a 4th year with a rookie qb who is not considered ELITE and the team finishes 6-11 with a rookie qb and a suspect roster. We fire both and next GM and HC is once again saddled with a qb they did not draft. How is that smart? Start with a new regime and rookie qb and give them 5 years
The Giants develop players for the rest of the league. Like a farm team in baseball, they play for the Giants to learn, then go on to success with other teams. If you're a good player, you won't have to spend too much time there in NY.
If the Giants like losing, then they'll keep Daboll. I remember 5 years ago, fans were saying Daboll was the second coming of Jesus. My, how things change when you suck.
Dabs and Cutlets always get a pass. It’s how we do things in NY/NJ He’s the coach and Devito is his QB of the future Fans want this. The clown agent sold Devito and everyone bought it
Can we please stop w/ the “elite” qb prospect or none narrative. Lamar Jackson,Patrick Mahomes weren’t considered elite prodpects in their drafts (none were selected in the top 5) yet they all seem to be alright. Nobody knows, with any certainty how prospects will fare. Relax a little. Especially this early in the process. The narrative around these players now will change numerous times before April. It happens every year. Both Neal and Kayvon were @ one time or another mocked #1 overall. It always changes.
So sad that at 2-10 TG discussion has to be about Lock vs Devito. Schoen's first eight picks in his first two years are simply abysmal not even Andy Reid can win with KT, Neal, Wandale, Hyatt, Flott, Ezeudu, Banks, JMS.
It doesn't matter who's the QB when the organization isn't properly run but it's going to the same thing over and over again...Even the slogan once a Giant always Giants is out the window now
Daboll thinks DeVito is better than Lock. Devito is still hurt so they're going with Lock. If Lock doesn't have a great game, Daboll will go back to DeVito when he is healthy next week.
If they are safe it is a travesty. But Mara is useless. And a coward. And will only be embarrassed again, because he cannot do his job. He is not capable. And no one wants this job.
@@MindofVito he takes sacks like david carrs record is part of his contract incentives and can't move the ball. He doesn't turn it over because he never throws it more than 5 yards.
“Buddy got drugged and blamed it on the hot tub” lmao
That shit got me good 😂
#1 overall pick is more important than a couple more wins in this terrible 24' season 💯 Your a nut if you want nyg to win another game this season!!
Justin chugging hot tub water 😂
I feel like Justin just goes on benders when he's "sick." Haha
LMFAO poor JP got schaffffffeedddd uppppp
The only good thing about the Giants these days is that I’m making a lot of money betting against them.
Same lmao
Especially since your american idol Janiel Domes was kicked off the worst team in the NFL. What else is left for you as a giants fan.
@ I thought you would have left the country after your girl got trounced. The Giants have actually gotten worse since Jones left, you’re too stupid to know that.
@@cooldude7821 How are you and your husband Thibodeaux doing? Are you more a catcher or a pitcher ?
@@cooldude7821 I know you are not very bright, but did you notice the Giants have gotten worse since DJ left.
Bottom line is, the Giants have no clue what they are doing.
You could put a wooden board in place of Neal and you wouldn’t notice a difference.
He's basically a scarecrow at this point
Neal still can't play right tackle. Hopefully, he can say, "You want fires with that?"
Yes!
I turn my back, and the entire DL room was gone!
The Giants definitely need to clean house, all signs point to Daboll being hard to work with behind the scenes and Schoens drafting has simply been subpar.
By now, the Giants should have been done rebuilding and starting to be competitive. Instead, every season is less and less wins. Now, everybody's saying they need to be rebuilt. True, but it's going to take another 5 seasons of losing before anything positive happens.
At this point, these have to be ghost injuries. The tank is on.
They have to resist the temptation of winning when they go against a playoff team that puts their 3rd string in there to save the good players for the playoffs. They need a top QB and won't get one if they start winning a few games.
If daboll/schoen "deserve" a 4th year, then they essentially are guaranteed 5 or 6 years. If they pick a bust QB out of desperation, then why would any GM/HC want to come here? Get rid of them both and use the #1 or #2 overall pick as a reason to get a great GM/HC with a fresh start
I never understood why they stopped using belliger
Where's Mark Bavaro when you need him?
What do you mean "fooled into firing the coach but not the GM?" Most GMs cycle through multiple coaches before getting fired because it takes longer to assess how well they are doing their job. And then you have guys like George Young who had some awful drafts and head coaches and then eventually he hired Parcells and they became the greatest GM/coach combination in Giant history.
I work in a hotel don't use those hot tubs either
I understand the criticisms of the coach and GM, but what about the owner? Mr. Mara is the one who keeps hiring and making some final monetary/staffing decisions. Maybe we won't be successful until we move on from current ownership??
I think everyone criticizes the owner. People don’t focus on it because there’s nothing that can be done about it (the Mara’s aren’t selling the team so it is what it is)
Agreed, I have thought this for years. It’s been nothing but disarray since Wellington passed
We can’t fire him
That's the key! The owner doesn't care about winning. The stadium is always full even when the team sucks. He's laughing all the way to the bank.
That is right. The coaches don’t know their ass from their elbow. Talk about the O-line for Sunday.
I wonder if Bobby wants to do a tailgate for the Colts game..
Hi
Rest in peace Justin
So you think giving them a 4th year with a rookie qb who is not considered ELITE and the team finishes 6-11 with a rookie qb and a suspect roster. We fire both and next GM and HC is once again saddled with a qb they did not draft. How is that smart? Start with a new regime and rookie qb and give them 5 years
Exactly right
The Giants develop players for the rest of the league. Like a farm team in baseball, they play for the Giants to learn, then go on to success with other teams. If you're a good player, you won't have to spend too much time there in NY.
Sorry he couldn’t make chicken salad out of that
If the Giants like losing, then they'll keep Daboll. I remember 5 years ago, fans were saying Daboll was the second coming of Jesus. My, how things change when you suck.
Bobby hotel hot tubs def get more mileage on them then air b n b. Get real bubba
Fire both of them at this point .. 👋🏻
Dabs and Cutlets always get a pass. It’s how we do things in NY/NJ
He’s the coach and Devito is his QB of the future
Fans want this. The clown agent sold Devito and everyone bought it
Can we please stop w/ the “elite” qb prospect or none narrative. Lamar Jackson,Patrick Mahomes weren’t considered elite prodpects in their drafts (none were selected in the top 5) yet they all seem to be alright. Nobody knows, with any certainty how prospects will fare. Relax a little. Especially this early in the process. The narrative around these players now will change numerous times before April. It happens every year. Both Neal and Kayvon were @ one time or another mocked #1 overall. It always changes.
This is not the best chance to win a game. That was the panthers. We blew that. If we win now it’s because the saints are hurt.
I will have zero excitement for draft or next season if either schoen or daboll are still here. Get rid of them already.
So sad that at 2-10 TG discussion has to be about Lock vs Devito. Schoen's first eight picks in his first two years are simply abysmal not even Andy Reid can win with KT, Neal, Wandale, Hyatt, Flott, Ezeudu, Banks, JMS.
Andy Reid can win with those players because reid is lightyears ahead of daboll, daboll is the problem not joe schoen 💯
JMS isn't bad bro
How can anyone expect the Giants to win with the injuries they have.
They were 2-6 when the team was healthy.
It doesn't matter who's the QB when the organization isn't properly run but it's going to the same thing over and over again...Even the slogan once a Giant always Giants is out the window now
Giants have no D and the offense sucks. What difference does it make who plays QB? I can't see how they can beat anybody at this point? SAD
I already order the eagles jersey.
Sick of this organization
Daboll thinks DeVito is better than Lock. Devito is still hurt so they're going with Lock. If Lock doesn't have a great game, Daboll will go back to DeVito when he is healthy next week.
If they are safe it is a travesty. But Mara is useless. And a coward. And will only be embarrassed again, because he cannot do his job. He is not capable. And no one wants this job.
DeVito is much better than Lock, and he’s only in his 2nd year. Which should speak volumes on how bad Lock is.
Devito shouldn't be in the NFL
@@macpluto12 yes he should. He makes the right plays and protects the ball like a true game manager. That’s all you need in a backup QB.
Your brain is smooth
@@MindofVitoCutlets is NOT a backup !! The fans and media bought the product Devito and his clown agent sold.
That’s YOUR QB1
Keep him
@@MindofVito he takes sacks like david carrs record is part of his contract incentives and can't move the ball. He doesn't turn it over because he never throws it more than 5 yards.
Joe is the reason this team is shit.
DeVito/ Drew Lock…. Who cares? The coaches just put their names in a hat and pick one out.
Draft Hunter, Johnson or Graham. Sign a better vet QB & possibly draft a developmental QB in the later rounds. Take it from there.
It worked,we lost