@ I am a big Ravens fan, moreover a big lamar fan as well. Lamar needs a change to win Superbowl. With current team Ravens can win Super bowl if ravens get Joe Burow.
If he catches the ball, THEY ARE DEFINITELY talking about the turnovers, bc with 1 minute and 30 seconds left with 2 timeouts, Josh Allen is getting 3 points.
Yall need to stop with these what if statements for Josh! The whole year the media push Josh doesn’t have much on his squad when yesterday proved that he do got ballers and he doesn’t have to be Superman every game!
Well I think the majority of people would accept Josh in 2 of his losses to the chiefs. Josh had to deal with 4 drops last year without Turing the ball over last year.
I agree, you have Lamar Jackson himself who knows ball saying it was mainly his fault they lost the game, but then you will have Lamar’s fans come and call you crazy while making excuses for him.
They say that because they don't really know this team. milano and bernard are replaceable? fun to watch but I don't really give their opinion credence.
@@ThatCronus I mean sure but they also have talent just because folks don’t know their names these are nfl players. The line controlled the number one run defense a large majority of the game.
As an Australian Bills fan I’m so confused why all these sports panels are acting so emotionally damaged from the Bills win. Bills are living rent free in their heads and I’m so glad I’m here for it. Let’s Go Buffalo 🔴🔵⚪️
Plenty of blame to go around. 1. Andrews 2pt conversion drop 2. Jackson fumble in 2nd qtr 3. Andrews fumble 4. Henry only getting 16 carries 5. Going for 2pts at 19
Absolute BS. What utter nonsense. But no, Josh is not an MVP. He CLEARLY wasn't the best player this year, and wasn't the best player on the field yesterday. LJ was. So there you go. [And you sound like a really unintelligent hater who likes to lie on the internet, for some reason. That's pathetic dude, get a life. smh]
Let’s keep it real, Lamar put his team in a deficit but did enough to get back in the game. But like James Jones said the Ravens just don’t seem to turn up when it matters
You could easily argue that Henry got them back in the game. Henry had that all run drive with Hill to make up for the deficit. I love Lamar and the Ravens but keeping it 100, Lamar didn’t show up. Andrew’s didn’t either. Henry carried them back into it and Lamar looked pretty again good on the final drive, but it should never have come down to a final drive.
Just give him his 4th MVP next season. All you do is coddle this QB. They don't win when Henry rushed under 100 yards. Yall think that dropped 2 point conversion is the reason. Yall dont think Josh Allen can get 40 yards in 1:33 with 2 timeouts to kick the game winning field goal? Everyone acts like that 2 point conversion would have won the game.
Lmao why do people keep saying “game winner.” All they would’ve done is TIED the game. And Allen still had 1:30 to work with even it Andrews caught it. Cut it out lmao
the bills had 1 good drive ,.. the 1st drive and got 7... then they got 7 points ( drive started at the 20) because of lamars fumble .. bills got 7 points from a bogus pi call before the half that put the ball inside the 10 ... and they got 7 off andrews fumble at mid field ... the bills had a couple 3 and outs the ravens move the ball up and down the field .. over time would have favored the ravens .. had harbaugh ran the ball more with henry in the 2nd half they win
It's amazing that Lamar holds himself accountable for not getting it done but all his fans do is make excuses for him. Take a page from your favourite player jeez
@@torribrown2480 You don't understand math. If Andrews makes the catch the game would have been tied. Allen had 1 min and 33 secs and time outs to get points.
@@torribrown2480Andrews didn't throw an interception that led to points, he didn't make Jackson fumble and he didn't miss tackles while playing on the supposed #1 rush defense in the league. Plenty of blame to go around, but we all know that Lamar fans will never direct any of it towards #8. I'm pretty sure it will take an intervention at this point.
@@GlenEaton-t4zif that helps you cope, 🤡. The reality is it was Bills vs Ravens and the Bills beat them. The Bills have the better QB and their team showed up and won.
It’s funny because wasn’t LeSean talking about how they give way too much credit to the quarterbacks when they win, but they never hold the quarterbacks accountable when they lose them games. Yet here he is not holding Lamar accountable for his turnovers.
No because he has been big on how a player finishes games. If Lamar converts that 2 the game is tied. His turnovers were in the first half and Lamar made plays to bring them back afterwards and if Mark catches that, different story. Bengals fan btw
Look at how Shady defends QBs like Lamar, Hurts, and Bryce Young. But he is harsh on Baker, Kirk, Allen, and Goff. Hmmmmm what do those QBs have in common. 🤔
He also blamed Joe Burrow for the games where he put up insane numbers start to finish but blame maybe a Interception he threw in the middle of the game or fumbles in "Key Moments" that cost him to lose but Lamar gets a pass interesting 🤔
@@Mystic_man727 Josh Allen scored a touchdown with 16 seconds left!!! Don’t tell me he could score 3 points with 1:30 left on the clock with 2 timeouts!!!!! Lamar lost the game!!!!!!!!
The fact of the matter is, Lamar Jackson, the choke artist in the playoffs, gave up two turnovers that cost them the points they needed to win the game, plain and simple.
harbaugh is the choke artist .. harbaugh taking the best running team and turning them into a pass team in the playoffs in bad weather is arse backwards henry got 8 carries in the 2nd half even though he was running very well
@@jameswilliams7661 people use choking too loosely. If lamar didn't have those 2 turnovers games probably different. If andrews didn't fumble could've been different. If Brandon stephens didn't give up a big 3rd down conversion in the 1st it may have been different. All ifs and buts. The entire team struggled early. Couldn't rebound. Onto next year.
With all due respect I’m blaming Andrew. Lamar’s turn overs were early and they didn’t capitalize off the interception, just his fumble that was turned into a field goal. I can forgive mark for the drop, but mark andrew’s fumble was just idiotic.
You clearly know nothing about football if they get 3pts of the turnovers and you have a chance to win the game… you’re not thinking about the turnovers at ALL. We needed Lamar to be on point the rest of the game and he was… ANDREWS had a 4th qtr fumble and a drop to Tie the game.. how is no blame on him realistically
@@jefeseason4990 The split is just so funny the people who criticize Lamar act as if he doesn’t get killed in the media. My thing is we were in the process of seeing Lamar break through imo and Mark kinda robbed that. Lamar to me has to continue to grow in the offs.
Last year y’all blamed Brock Purdy for losing the SB yet y’all making excuses for Lamar. Cmon man, be consistent! I’m taking The Bills vs Philli!!! Final The Bills will win the Super Bowl!!!
Dude these “analysts” will not stay objective. It wasn’t a game winning dropped pass it was a game tying dropped pass. And Lamar played mediocre. He threw a horrible pick and fumbled like a bonehead. But all the blame goes to Andrews?! Go away. No one is giving the Bills their props for playing air tight football.
@ what do you mean it didn’t cost them anything of course it did. There was no time left. Interception means it took time off of the game clock that’s costly. A fumble was still on Jackson. He had possession of the ball and then dropped it. Stop making excuses
No way this game would have been a “blowout”. The Bills played smart football. If Josh needed to, he would have put on the cape and took over. That’s what he does. Check his playoff stats. Lamar had half as many turnovers in the FIRST HALF as Josh has had in his entire playoff career! And one of Josh’s was a Hail Mary at the end of the bengals game on 4th down. Lamar chokes in big moments it’s always the same with him
Why don't you try something crazy - TRY TELLING THE TRUTH!!! I know it's not in the character of a caveboy like yourself to care anything about facts/reality/truth/etc., but try it sometime. LJ completed 72% of his passes, threw 2 TDs, ran for 39 yards, and marched the entire field in the last two minutes to score a TD, then threw the game tying perfect strike 2 pt. conversion AND STUPID MARK ANDREWS DROPS IT!!! That sounds like an NFL MVP!!! He threw ONE pick (his fault) and fumbled once (half his fault), so he was absolutely terrible and we should be screaming how terrible he was??!! Fact - HE WAS FAR BETTER THAN JOSH ALLEN AND LOOKED LIKE THE NFL MVP, AS USUAL!!! If he had 140 yards passing, 55% completion rate, and two turnovers THEN WE WOULD ALL BE SHOUTING HOW TERRIBLE HE PLAYED, AND HOW HE TOTALLY CRACKED IN THE BIGGEST GAME!!! But that's not what happened dude. LJ messed up (twice) in the first half and played like an MVP in the second half, driving down the field to possibly/probably win the game. Just like Chase, you're just a pale guy that wants to see Josh Allen win the MVP. It's obvious Mark Andrews lost the game for them and Lamar played well - clearly outplayed better than Josh Allen, but didn't play his best. Honestly, who cares about football. I'm just tired of seeing all the piece of sh*t people on the net who think and act like caveman little boys. It's disgusting and you must really hate what you see in the mirror. That's the real tragedy. Who gives a sh*t about football. It's just a game cave dude.
Lamar is the most hated QB in NFL history so why can't people stand up for him??????? People make excuses for Justin Herbert, Burrow and Josh Allen all the time.
Acho has been on Allen's nuts until week 18 what are you talking about? And Daniel has hated on him his whole career. The only one that has really been on Lamars side and hasn't flip flopped is Jones.
As a Bills fan I have to address this: We been through the toughest times probably more than any other team in the league. Bills Mafia has a level of respect and honor for our opponents that even they have to acknowledge. We donate to our opponents charities not out of pity or satire but pure grace. Lamar Jackson is well respected from US even he acknowledges our purity, but Ravens fans you guys are pure cowards. And I know the trolls don’t represent you guys as a whole but the level of disrespect was really mind boggling this season. Hopefully a slice of humble pie will make them a better fanbase
No way a Bills fan… a fan of a team who has NEVER WON ANYTHING… a fan of a QB that’s never won anything… a fan of a team that’s 0-4 in superbowls and a fan of a team that’s been embarrassing for 60 years… NO WAY you’re telling ravens fans they should be more humble? Who is a bills fan to tell a ravens fan anything!?
@@StepBlvckbro we can still fans of our team regardless of them not winning championships. We are humans and this is a sport. Pipe down bro this some whole other politics.
@ you just proved my point because that has nothing to do with the price of tea in China. You are obviously one of the cowards, but enjoy this offseason because we not done my guy and this Bills fan watched Lamar get handed 2 L’s in Buffalo wtf The 90’s have to do with right now? Fact of the matter is with Josh, Mahomes, Burrow in the AFC Lamar might not ever get to SB. Enjoy the offseason coward
@@BrokenTablesPodand with Lamar, Mahomes and Burrows in the AFC, Josh may not either. I read a lot of hate all season from both fan bases. Both got heated and over reacted to the MVP race. Both talked smack about the other team and QB going into the game last night. You’re a Bills fan, so of course you’re blind to your fanbase’s vitriol. A lot of great Bills and great Ravens fans out there but there’s trolls in every fanbase.
Chase is wrong saying the Ravens never won a game when trailing by 10 in the Lamar era. They have 4 wins THIS SEASON when trailing by 10 in the 2nd half
@@adam7899 like I get it he fumbled which led to a score and the interception which didn’t but both processions we might had scored! We needed a touchdown in the 4th and LJ delivered and he delivered with the 2pt but mark decided not to catch it
"its not about how you start its about how you finish" only applies to winners. for losers, points in the first minute and points in the final minute worth the exact same
That take from Shady is wild. So if the defense gives up 40 points in the first half but pitches a shutout in the second half its the offenses fault if you lose? All plays matter not just crunch time. Look at the win % for teams that lose in turnover diff. Its always way harder to win if you turn over the ball no matter when the turnovers occur. I realize people probably read this message and say duh that's common knowledge but apparently for Shady it isn't haha
3:51 yes shady because both of those drives took momentum away from the ravens if I’m not mistaken that first turn over the ravens was going down to go up 10-7 or 14-7 but instead went down 14-7 and been playing from behind ever since that flipped the game
Those who say the first quarter and second quarter don’t matter shouldn’t speak. I agree with a lot of things he says but this one was a miss. Lamar is to blame. If they win he’d get all the glory but now that they lost they’ll deflect Any and all blame to someone else. It’s pathetic at its finest. Sad thing is Lamar isn’t even putting the blame on anyone else. He doesn’t need people defending him.
He racist blue eyes is devil seed chase is hypercrit Herbert threw 4 int he making excuses on Lamar int Bateman ran wrong route Herbert was trash 🗑 Mark Andrews drop wide open pass blame Lamar 😂😂😂😂😂😂thats next level crazy
@@antoinetatum9718im a Chargers Fan and I agree and honestly I don’t think this loss was on Lamar. The Chargers definitely on Herbert or at least 80% of it.
I am a Well Known Lamar "Hater" But He Did NOT Play That Bad...Was Snowing out and He Had 2 Turnovers in 1st Half and 1 of Them Was Irrelevant...Other Than That He Played Well Including Making Critical Plays in 2nd Half...Andrews Made The 2 CRITICAL Mistakes...Lamar Did Not CHOKE in This Game
Literally no one blamed him when he lost in the afc championship nor the Super Bowl. He’s been living off that Super Bowl run where he scored only 4 tDs that whole playoff run.
MAN it feels good to have a QB that runs a 50 yard TD, throw for 128 and win the game. I'd take that over all the QBs that has gone home from turning the ball over. Jalen man, you really like that!!
Henry had less than 20 carries. I don’t care if it works at first or not, you need him to carry the ball to victory. Kudos to the Bills for a great game.
Exactly we only did what we had to do to win Josh didnt have to put on the cape today wtv got us the win was how we were gonna win by 1 point or by 100 along as we got the win
@ exactly turnovers Josh kept the ball safe he didn’t turn it over every team that won this week didn’t turn the ball over once turnovers u have to put some blame on Lamar not saying it’s all his fault
Give Lamar all the MVPs he wants, he is a 2 time regular season champion who is all world in the Regular Season, but everyone knows come playoff time Allen is and will always be far better than Lamar. Lamar outplayed Josh Allen this game by throwing an int, causing a fumble and losing the game, but it’s ok tho he’s got the most sensitive fanbase who will make excuses for him no matter how bad he plays. Josh is now 2-0 against Lamar in the playoffs and has far better playoff career numbers but people still want to sit and say Lamar is better. Lamar had 9 pro bowlers and a hall of fame running back but still lost to Josh Allen and a bunch of paper scraps. Enough is enough call it like it is Baltimore fans.
@@-JokerIsYourFatherravens need to let go of harbaugh, just like Steelers need to get rid of tomlin, need some new faces, perhaps a more offensive minded coach.
Look Lamar isn’t without blame, but shady isn’t wrong, if mark makes that catch and the ravens win we don’t talk abt Lamar’s turnovers, we only talk abt his turnovers because they lost. Yes he had a fumble that led to buffalo points but he brought them back in the game with a chance to tie it. The OC, the defense in the first half, the whole team is to blame for this loss
QB is allowed to turn the ball over. It’s actually expected since they have the ball so much. What kills you is when players who typically don’t have the ball a ton turn it over. No way you can survive a TE dropping passes at crucial moments and fumbling.
@@omeeawakened Yes but at times he got too cute, on the first 2 point play why not run the damn ball like you’ve been doing, the second 2 point play was genius mark just dropped the bucket
@@Qik_Jraw_McRaw Allen and Lamar were drafted in the same year. In the playoffs Allen is 7-5 with 23 TDs 4 INTs. Lamar is 3-5 with 10 TDs 7 INTs. Allen elevates in the playoffs, Lamar crumbles and the stats prove it
I want Shady to hold Lamar accountable the same way he held Aaron Rodger’s accountable and the same way the media held Peyton Manning accountable. Just because the media was wrong during the draft about Lamar doesn’t mean he can’t be scrutinized today.
I expect fans or media to blame Lamar for something he did in the first half but not former players because every player knows it only matters when it’s crunch time.
James’ commentary was spot on. It was a group effort in losing. Finally, something went the Bills way. Lamar will be MVP, but will not get the ring. Move on Ravens - the Bill’s have been there and let their close past losses be your teachable moment.
It's everybody's else's fault when they lose but if Lamar wins a Super Bowl one day he's the one that's gonna get all the credit. Lamar fans will be saying he's top 3 all time lol.
Josh Allen and Burrow are the nfls golden boy. I’m not a Hurts fan, but y’all were hating on him when he only had like 130 passing yards, but y’all are praising Josh Allen for having 127 passing yards? And he only had 20 rushing yards on 10 carries so his rushing ability wasn’t even doing much.
Hurts is a bum, since his days at Bama he’s consistently done the LEAST with the most stacked rosters. Any QB in the playoffs would be blowing teams out with that roster, Jalen is the Eagles weak link
Lol!! If Allen or Burrow were on the Eagles, they'd be unbeatable. Hurts puts up these numbers every week. I can't think of a time Burrow threw for under 150 yards
Ravens beat themselves-Allen didn’t play like Superman, LJ8 did-3 scores in the 2nd half of game and tie last 1 minute…Andrews should’ve caught that catchable pass.
All 60 minutes matter. It’s just like saying the games at the beginning of the season aren’t as important as the ones at the end. Tell that to all the teams that missed the playoffs by one game.
@derrickmason7457 they will all take blame as players and realize there are moments in these games where early mistakes by others are mostly forgotten. A player will tell you that every time a teammate makes such a mistake. Every player will take some blame. This is a team sport and they know it and they go to bed wondering about that slip off of a route, that holding penalty that takes ya out of FG range, missed PAT's on and on, etc. All important moments within the game. Players and educated fans know that. A lot of fans and media don't though.
Sounds good in theory, but that's not how it works. There's a reason qbs are typically the highest paid players on the team. More responsibility, more credit/blame.
@@SuperSonic_868 I hear you on the money. I hear all that. But "during a game" let's just put Lamar out there, for example. One man vs. eleven. That's how absurd it is to say it's not a team game with more than one to blame. 🤷
lmao shady tripping blaming mark andrews , yes he has part of it but comon... the writing is on the wall... Lamar had some mistakes himself. As someone said in the comments here, if Lamar gets all the praise when they win, then he gets 60-70% of the blame when they lose. Also think that the opponent gets into his head. I think that when he sees the opposite end of the field and sees Josh Allen, and knows hes a supertstar player himself, he feels like he has to play up to or surpass him, when in reality if he just played like himself and minimize the damage instead of trying to scramble even more when he fumbled then its a whole new ball game
Do you even watch football? Do you have any idea what you're talking about? QBs throw interceptions all the time. Guys fumble - even the best RBs in the league, all the time (pretty much every game). How many times do you see a seasoned veteran pass catcher drop a well thrown game tying pass in the end zone, with nobody on him??!! I'll wait ---------- Maybe never!!! Have we ever seen that in all of football??!! Mark Andrews drops the game tying pass AND ALSO FUMBLES in the same game, basically played THE WORST GAME OF HIS ENTIRE CAREER, and it's not his fault?!! Blame = 60% Mark Andrews, 30% LJ, and 10% the coach and the entire rest of the team (especially the defense). The whole team is to blame, but LJ messed up twice (otherwise played flawlessly), the coach should have ran the ball more, the defense didn't play great, and Mark Andrew's play was absolutely inexcusable - THE WORSE GAME OF HIS CAREER, AND THE WORSE GAME FROM A VETERAN TIGHT END THAT I CAN EVEN REMEMBER. Just tell the truth in life dude. It's makes you feel better.
"Lamar can't play from behind, he is 0-10 when trailing by 2 tds at half". Man, WHAT? HE beat Cinci 2x this year alone while behind 2 TDs in the second half. They find the smallest glimpse of reason to try and support their argument
Did he beat the Bengals or did the Ravens beat the Bengals? See, this is what people are talking about when they say you all give Lamar all the praise when the Ravens win. You all change the narrative when the Ravens lose. Then it becomes a team thing.
@@rm5282 well LJ8 is THE leader. He leads the way but you’re right in all sports, it’s a team effort. I think what is Ravens fans are saying is LJ8 put in his superman cape and lead the team to 3 scores in the 2nd half and could’ve tied the game with over a minute in the last quarter…if your Andrews you NEED to catch a very catchable pass.
Andrews 2 point conversion drop was not the game ender! Did you even watch? Bills still had 1:36 left and would’ve done the mahones last min field goal. Ravens choked plain and simple. But the bills controlled the whole game. Stop acting like the ravens were better. The better team won!
BS!!! Of course the Ravens were better, never got stopped on offense or even punted the ball. Without the mistakes they would have destroyed the Bills, just like last time. Ravens (the better team) didn't play their best game and the Bills won, barely. If they played again, we all know who would win, again. (not the Bills!!!) But congrats, fortune was on their side. It happens
@CoelSOPASTLOCAL idc for either. I'm just telling you that the glazing for Josh Allen begins. I see what the media does when it comes to Josh. They love that boy
That's absolute BS. LJ played like an MVP and also made two critical mistakes. Aside from the pick and fumble, his numbers and play were excellent. You must have a really sad and pathetic life to hate another man so much for absolutely no reason at all. That's the real tragedy here. This is who YOU are, and I'm so glad I'm not you. smh
Where do you guys get this stuff from? Derrick was being shut down in the first half so they tried to pass the football in order to keep pace. It wasn’t a conspiracy. When one thing isn’t working you try something else.
If the Andrews catches the 🏈 it would've tied the game but Josh Allen gets the ball back so we will never know what would've happened!! 2nd there's always a reason year after year why the Ravens don't make the Superbowl!!;🤔🤔🤔
Just remember Lamar is the same quarterback that they said would never win A playoff game, he should change his position, he can’t throw, his style of play is not sustainable.. now look at today they criticize dude because he’s a two time mvp which majority of these folks never seen that coming.. now it’s can he win a supwrbowl! Man get y’all popcorn ready cuz god willing Lamar and the ravens team here to stay!
Because if you haven't noticed goofy raven fans only want to win when it's Lamar that's carrying the team. They got more caught up with the 3rd MVP race over keep focused on the main objective getting to the Superbowl and winning.
I blame them for not having 300+ rushing yards on a DB heavy defense, those turnovers don't really matter as much as giving QB designed runs and giving King Henry the ball, Todd Monkin should've just stuck to what wins them games all season. \
The blame is on the coach for going for a two-point conversion for a tie in the third quarter when you didn't need to tie it then. It wound up costing you the game ... stop with the stupid analytics already!
Lamar played good game but come on that INT and drop ball was a so obviously bad.. and it is not like he throw 400 yards and use time wisely. It was the defense who hold strong and gave Lamar chance to redeem himself.. If Bills played decent in 2nd half, which they were capable of and Coaching staff is so conservative they almost gave game away.. I would blame Bills offense calling and keep using Running game when 8 man in the box is dumb.. could should used Allen feet and long passes or TE were options but they didn’t
@@jesusm2159so it’s Lamar’s fault for the bad snap what are yall talking about? If the snap hadn’t happened zero chance of fumbling quit finding every way to blame one person
Ravens 6 losses on the season. Can we quit acting like they were a 15/16 win team? Lost to the browns and raiders. They are built to run and be physical. Lamar can’t throw when needed and forced to. He chokes and turns it over. He’s 3-7 in the playoffs. Quit acting like he 7-3. Andrew’s didn’t lose the other 6 games
@therealbeedubbs35 You make 0 sense, bro! We're talking about last night's game, not the last 6. He made mistakes in the first half but made it up in the second half. Down by 2, threw a dagger, and Andrew dropped the pass to tie the game. None of it would have mattered if Andrew caught that pass.
@@jephteclersaint4204I make zero sense by pointing out how Lamar chokes in the playoffs time and time again? He didn’t show up last year against KC, or year before etc. even if Andrew’s caught that ball Bills were kicking a FG and winning. Josh didn’t have to take over the game but he would have if he needed too. Check the stats, Lamar is a choker
@therealbeedubbs35 He showed up when it mattered the most last night, but Andrews let him down. I think that's the most important part of the story. It was a heck of a game, I enjoyed the entertainment factors. He had a slow start, but he got them right there while they still had a chance. Choking is like Lebron in the 2011 NBA finals against the Dallas Mavericks.
@jakieresykes3644 Making up for early mistakes is showing up. He's not playing against himself out there. The other team is also making things happen, too. He could have easily folded after the mistakes. He still had them in a position to win or at least go into overtime. There was no guarantee that if even if he didn't turn the ball over, the Bills weren't going to find another way to win. The Bills are also a very good football team, too. Had he made the same mistakes against a terrible team and lost, no one would have had anything to say.
Guys, the big tight end was cold, people think that when you get out there and play in that cold in that weather they think you are immune to it........The big tight end was affected by the cold weather.
Blame Lamar for 1st half , blame Mark for second half. But since Lamar is an Elite QB he has to get most of blame cause every other qb would be getting killed
Can you imagine if rolls were switched and Josh had 2 turnovers like Lamar in that game and they LOST... he'd be shredded to death today.. but Lamar gets fan boy treatment from the media!!!
If Josh Allen had a 72% completion rate, 254 passing yards, 2 TDs, couldn't be stopped (never punted), lead his team all the way downfield to score a TD in the last 2 minutes, threw a perfect strike 2 pt. conversion in the endzone (that was dropped,) WE WOULD ALL BE TALKING ABOUT HOW HORRIBE HE IS BECAUSE OF TWO MISTAKES IN THE FIRST HALF??!! Really?? You sound really unintelligent right now. I feel sorry for you. smh
Mark Andrews didn't drop the game winner.... They would have tied up the game the bills would have got the ball back with enough time to get in field goal range and most likely win the game without going into overtime...
As someone who has criticized Lamar's QB play over and over again, , he was not 100% the reason they lost. . Dude placed a PERFECT ball in Andrews hands and my dude dropped it AGAIN
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Ravens should think about trade Lamar for Joe Burow
@@karthickpandit1715 No way!
@ I am a big Ravens fan, moreover a big lamar fan as well. Lamar needs a change to win Superbowl. With current team Ravens can win Super bowl if ravens get Joe Burow.
If that was Brock purdy y'all would blame him totally 😂😂😂😂
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If he catches the ball, THEY ARE DEFINITELY talking about the turnovers, bc with 1 minute and 30 seconds left with 2 timeouts, Josh Allen is getting 3 points.
Facts
He only got 6 points the whole 2nd half, knock it off.
Allen had 127 passing yds…..
And, if Lamar brings that pass up about 12-15 inches, it would be an easier catch.
Yall need to stop with these what if statements for Josh! The whole year the media push Josh doesn’t have much on his squad when yesterday proved that he do got ballers and he doesn’t have to be Superman every game!
Everyone acting like the game is over if they tied it. Allen had 1:38 and 2 time outs to get a field goal
Not even just tying it, theyre acting as if that was a game winning td. Its pathetic.
If Andrews catches that ball, Ravens haters would be praying that we lose to the Taylor Swiftees next week. Stop the bs.
Facts. Allen had plenty of time
@@torribrown2480shut up y’all not ready ❤💛❤💛
And even if Buffalo didn't go down for a field goal it still would've just been tied and gone to overtime
“Don’t accept anything in a win, you wouldn’t in a loss” -Shannon Sharpe
His coach told Shannon that. That wasn’t Shannon’s quote.
@@joshbbpodcastBut it still remains true even to this every day.
Well I think the majority of people would accept Josh in 2 of his losses to the chiefs. Josh had to deal with 4 drops last year without Turing the ball over last year.
I agree, you have Lamar Jackson himself who knows ball saying it was mainly his fault they lost the game, but then you will have Lamar’s fans come and call you crazy while making excuses for him.
That was Mike shanahan
I disagree with Bills players being replaceable. The chemistry in that locker room is why they are doing well.
Damn straight
They say that because they don't really know this team. milano and bernard are replaceable? fun to watch but I don't really give their opinion credence.
I think mac Hollins brings that fire !!!
@@ThatCronus I mean sure but they also have talent just because folks don’t know their names these are nfl players. The line controlled the number one run defense a large majority of the game.
As an Australian Bills fan I’m so confused why all these sports panels are acting so emotionally damaged from the Bills win. Bills are living rent free in their heads and I’m so glad I’m here for it. Let’s Go Buffalo 🔴🔵⚪️
Plenty of blame to go around.
1. Andrews 2pt conversion drop
2. Jackson fumble in 2nd qtr
3. Andrews fumble
4. Henry only getting 16 carries
5. Going for 2pts at 19
Lamar intereption cost 1 possession
6. Andrews 3rd down drop when driving in the 3rd quarter
Exactly!!!
Fire John Harbaugh 🔥
Going for 2 at 19 isn't a mistake, it was later in the game and they wanted to tie it.
Who do I blame for the Ravens' loss?
The Bills.
They let Baltimore beat themselves and didn't make mistakes.
Facts
REFS GLAZER
@@kevinchambers5020u mad the ravens lost again huh 🤡🤡
Pretty much
Bingo
Gotta love the media. If Josh had Lamar’s stats and lost on a Dawson Knox drop, it’d be Josh’s fault and a whole bunch of “I told you he ain’t MVP”
Not at all youre a biased wyt person
this is completely false
@@mustermas I’m black af but go off
Absolute BS. What utter nonsense. But no, Josh is not an MVP. He CLEARLY wasn't the best player this year, and wasn't the best player on the field yesterday. LJ was. So there you go. [And you sound like a really unintelligent hater who likes to lie on the internet, for some reason. That's pathetic dude, get a life. smh]
@Imbadatleague hahaha well.that backfired. Btw totally agree...JA could had ten tds and if they lost it would still somehow be his fault.
Let’s keep it real, Lamar put his team in a deficit but did enough to get back in the game. But like James Jones said the Ravens just don’t seem to turn up when it matters
Do they?
You could easily argue that Henry got them back in the game. Henry had that all run drive with Hill to make up for the deficit. I love Lamar and the Ravens but keeping it 100, Lamar didn’t show up. Andrew’s didn’t either. Henry carried them back into it and Lamar looked pretty again good on the final drive, but it should never have come down to a final drive.
@@sbrons1Lamar is amongst the top 4 QBs in the league, landing at #3. Burrow #2. Allen QB 1B. Mahomes QB 1A.
Just give him his 4th MVP next season. All you do is coddle this QB. They don't win when Henry rushed under 100 yards. Yall think that dropped 2 point conversion is the reason. Yall dont think Josh Allen can get 40 yards in 1:33 with 2 timeouts to kick the game winning field goal? Everyone acts like that 2 point conversion would have won the game.
Breaking news: Football team more likely to win if their best players play well 🤯
Same thing they said about the ravens and chiefs game opener. Raven fans always do this.😂
There bias. Shady literally said he dropped the game winning pass lol when it wasn’t.
Lamar Jackson is overrated
They won 2 games and could have been more if Tucker makes his fgs. They win 3 more games.
Lmao why do people keep saying “game winner.” All they would’ve done is TIED the game. And Allen still had 1:30 to work with even it Andrews caught it. Cut it out lmao
Because losing because Allen marched down the field is fair game. Screwing it up with your own hands just sucks.
@@MrMenace3210 right, but allen had 1 min 30 and 2 time outs.. given his track record, he was very likely to get into FG range and win it
the bills had 1 good drive ,.. the 1st drive and got 7... then they got 7 points ( drive started at the 20) because of lamars fumble .. bills got 7 points from a bogus pi call before the half that put the ball inside the 10 ... and they got 7 off andrews fumble at mid field ... the bills had a couple 3 and outs the ravens move the ball up and down the field .. over time would have favored the ravens .. had harbaugh ran the ball more with henry in the 2nd half they win
And 2 timeouts
@@MrMenace3210u lost the game when u had 3 TO and expected to win
It's amazing that Lamar holds himself accountable for not getting it done but all his fans do is make excuses for him. Take a page from your favourite player jeez
No you want us to put 100 percent of blame on him
@@bcsuno919yall give him 100 percent of the credit he at least deserve 60 percent of that loss
Exactly @@bcsuno919
Exactly 💯💯💯💯‼️‼️‼️. Even though I think he’s overrated but now I have more respect for him for taking accountability.
exactly 🎯
Not giving any credit to buffalo is rediculous. They kept things simple didn’t make any mistakes and created turnovers
Bro!!!! Thank you!!!!!! It’s so ridiculous.
Facts
Shady, give him the same treatment you would give to Dak! Don't make excuses for Lamar.
Lamar put us in position to win that game. Andrews dropped a perfectly thrown pass. The LJ hate needs to stop.
@torribrown2480 you're 100% correct
@@torribrown2480 he spotted the bills an 11 points at halftime... thats too much to come back from in a game thats played in buffalo
@@torribrown2480 You don't understand math. If Andrews makes the catch the game would have been tied. Allen had 1 min and 33 secs and time outs to get points.
@@torribrown2480Andrews didn't throw an interception that led to points, he didn't make Jackson fumble and he didn't miss tackles while playing on the supposed #1 rush defense in the league.
Plenty of blame to go around, but we all know that Lamar fans will never direct any of it towards #8. I'm pretty sure it will take an intervention at this point.
Mafia here! Josh Allen IS Josh Allen because of his players. There chemistry is ELITE and not easily replaceable, period.
He has a everyone eats mentally he doesn't care about stats
@myapatterson8228 💯
Shout out to the Bills defense 3 takeaways.
They act like the Bills weren’t even there, ravens vs ravens. If it was Josh, they would’ve had a field day with him.
It was ravens vs ravens u sound like a goofy
@@GlenEaton-t4zif that helps you cope, 🤡. The reality is it was Bills vs Ravens and the Bills beat them. The Bills have the better QB and their team showed up and won.
@@cjax3735 seriously, I can't even watch this stuff anymore. it's a joke.
Shady defending lamar when he blames other qbs for their turnovers depite how they play at the end
Facts!
Lamar is held to a lower standard than any other QB
I’ve been watching this show for a while and you’re literally lying on the internet
Shady is correct though. LJ8 balled out in the 4th leading them to 3 scores and a tie if Andrew catches a very catchable ball.
@@Jp-do9nyNot really. Don't forget about Herbert and Joe cool
It’s funny because wasn’t LeSean talking about how they give way too much credit to the quarterbacks when they win, but they never hold the quarterbacks accountable when they lose them games. Yet here he is not holding Lamar accountable for his turnovers.
I agree, Shady being a straight hypocrite. If that was Rodgers and not Lamar he’d be blaming Rodgers all week.
@@droundt2and don’t let it Be Dak he would of destroy him lol
No because he has been big on how a player finishes games. If Lamar converts that 2 the game is tied. His turnovers were in the first half and Lamar made plays to bring them back afterwards and if Mark catches that, different story. Bengals fan btw
Look at how Shady defends QBs like Lamar, Hurts, and Bryce Young. But he is harsh on Baker, Kirk, Allen, and Goff. Hmmmmm what do those QBs have in common. 🤔
He also blamed Joe Burrow for the games where he put up insane numbers start to finish but blame maybe a Interception he threw in the middle of the game or fumbles in "Key Moments" that cost him to lose but Lamar gets a pass interesting 🤔
The Bills finally have understood that not beating yourself in the playoffs is the best way to win.
Are we forgetting Lamar’s interception and fumble?
But he did show up when it mattered if Andrews didn’t have butter fingers it would’ve been a tie but yes he does have some blame
interception yes...fumble, give 50% credit to the that horrendous snap from the center
@@eblsymk50%? 😂 you can’t be serious
@@tristanmireles8994It does not matter when you turn the football over 3 times.
@@tristanmireles8994do you remember last year’s divisional between the bills in chiefs? Josh had about 4 drops all in crucial moments
Stop talking about the drop, there was 1:30 on the clock and Josh Allen had 2 timeouts. They would’ve still lost that game
Definitely a great possibility lol.
What you mean they WOULDVE lost the game…are you a fortune teller? That drop LOST the game…use you darn brain boy!!
Don’t matter u don’t drop a open pass like that or fumble
@@Mystic_man727 Josh Allen scored a touchdown with 16 seconds left!!! Don’t tell me he could score 3 points with 1:30 left on the clock with 2 timeouts!!!!! Lamar lost the game!!!!!!!!
@@jimcrack3776 Lamar fumbled and threw a pick so they’re even
The fact of the matter is, Lamar Jackson, the choke artist in the playoffs, gave up two turnovers that cost them the points they needed to win the game, plain and simple.
harbaugh is the choke artist .. harbaugh taking the best running team and turning them into a pass team in the playoffs in bad weather is arse backwards henry got 8 carries in the 2nd half even though he was running very well
Lamar's turnovers cost - 7 points; Marc Andrews fumble and drop cost - 5 points (BOTH to blame!!!!!) - plain and simple
How is he a choke artist in that game if he takes the damn ball to score the game tying td to give your team a chance to win the game please stop
@@jameswilliams7661 people use choking too loosely. If lamar didn't have those 2 turnovers games probably different. If andrews didn't fumble could've been different. If Brandon stephens didn't give up a big 3rd down conversion in the 1st it may have been different.
All ifs and buts. The entire team struggled early. Couldn't rebound. Onto next year.
That was not the game winner… 1:43
Thank You!!
Exactly would tie the game and They act like Bills wouldn’t had 1:30 left to get in FG range to win
Y'all know exactly what he meant 😅
Stop it. We tie and go OT it’s a TOTALLY different outcome.
Kittle or kelce would’ve caught that. Just saying 🤷🏽♂️
Stop blaming just Andrews. The Bills played smartly and the Ravens turned the ball over. Lamar and Andrews.
lol Lamar is at fault but don’t blame Mark at all…… fr
With all due respect I’m blaming Andrew. Lamar’s turn overs were early and they didn’t capitalize off the interception, just his fumble that was turned into a field goal. I can forgive mark for the drop, but mark andrew’s fumble was just idiotic.
You clearly know nothing about football if they get 3pts of the turnovers and you have a chance to win the game… you’re not thinking about the turnovers at ALL. We needed Lamar to be on point the rest of the game and he was… ANDREWS had a 4th qtr fumble and a drop to Tie the game.. how is no blame on him realistically
@@TheDeanthedonhe has to be a yt person
@@jefeseason4990 The split is just so funny the people who criticize Lamar act as if he doesn’t get killed in the media. My thing is we were in the process of seeing Lamar break through imo and Mark kinda robbed that. Lamar to me has to continue to grow in the offs.
Mark Andrews would have caught the game tying pass. FYI. The Bills would have 2 timeout and time to get a Fg.
They don’t want to speak on that though lol.
This right here. There was over 1 and half minutes left in the game. That is PLENTY of time for Allen to get them in FG range, lol.
It’s iffy
We don’t know that for sure.
For sure but they had been relatively held in the second half
Last year y’all blamed Brock Purdy for losing the SB yet y’all making excuses for Lamar. Cmon man, be consistent! I’m taking The Bills vs Philli!!! Final The Bills will win the Super Bowl!!!
Don’t get me wrong I enjoy y’all Sport Talk Show over anything with SAS. Keep up the good work fellas!!!
The Commanders beat the Eagles; the Chiefs beat the Bills; the Commanders beat the Chiefs in the Superbowl
Imagine Shady defending two Dak turnovers in one half 😭
Dude these “analysts” will not stay objective. It wasn’t a game winning dropped pass it was a game tying dropped pass. And Lamar played mediocre. He threw a horrible pick and fumbled like a bonehead. But all the blame goes to Andrews?! Go away. No one is giving the Bills their props for playing air tight football.
The INT cost them nothing and the fumble was on a very bad snap..
@ what do you mean it didn’t cost them anything of course it did. There was no time left. Interception means it took time off of the game clock that’s costly. A fumble was still on Jackson. He had possession of the ball and then dropped it. Stop making excuses
@@00ghostcobravery bad snap? Are you serious right now? 😂😂😂😂
@@OldDirtyCollector It didn't cost them a single point.. In fact the Bills barely gained any yards after that int..
@@ALARGADORDECU Yes.. Did you not watch the game?
No way this game would have been a “blowout”. The Bills played smart football. If Josh needed to, he would have put on the cape and took over. That’s what he does. Check his playoff stats. Lamar had half as many turnovers in the FIRST HALF as Josh has had in his entire playoff career! And one of Josh’s was a Hail Mary at the end of the bengals game on 4th down. Lamar chokes in big moments it’s always the same with him
Lamar fanboys always got excuses for him !!! It will never stop.
Why don't you try something crazy - TRY TELLING THE TRUTH!!! I know it's not in the character of a caveboy like yourself to care anything about facts/reality/truth/etc., but try it sometime. LJ completed 72% of his passes, threw 2 TDs, ran for 39 yards, and marched the entire field in the last two minutes to score a TD, then threw the game tying perfect strike 2 pt. conversion AND STUPID MARK ANDREWS DROPS IT!!! That sounds like an NFL MVP!!! He threw ONE pick (his fault) and fumbled once (half his fault), so he was absolutely terrible and we should be screaming how terrible he was??!! Fact - HE WAS FAR BETTER THAN JOSH ALLEN AND LOOKED LIKE THE NFL MVP, AS USUAL!!! If he had 140 yards passing, 55% completion rate, and two turnovers THEN WE WOULD ALL BE SHOUTING HOW TERRIBLE HE PLAYED, AND HOW HE TOTALLY CRACKED IN THE BIGGEST GAME!!! But that's not what happened dude. LJ messed up (twice) in the first half and played like an MVP in the second half, driving down the field to possibly/probably win the game. Just like Chase, you're just a pale guy that wants to see Josh Allen win the MVP. It's obvious Mark Andrews lost the game for them and Lamar played well - clearly outplayed better than Josh Allen, but didn't play his best. Honestly, who cares about football. I'm just tired of seeing all the piece of sh*t people on the net who think and act like caveman little boys. It's disgusting and you must really hate what you see in the mirror. That's the real tragedy. Who gives a sh*t about football. It's just a game cave dude.
Cry raven cry
Like shady 😂😂😂
Lamar is the most hated QB in NFL history so why can't people stand up for him??????? People make excuses for Justin Herbert, Burrow and Josh Allen all the time.
These dudes simped for Lamar all year long and now are sitting here eating crow. Real MVP won this game.
Josh and the Bills gonna eat pounds of crow after they lose to the Chiefs
Actually the real MvP won in Philly.
Acho has been on Allen's nuts until week 18 what are you talking about? And Daniel has hated on him his whole career. The only one that has really been on Lamars side and hasn't flip flopped is Jones.
!!!🎉
Josh was awful. He’s a fullback playing qb and will never win a mvp in his career or a ring
😱 How dare Josh play mistake-free football?!!
How dare he manage the game and do so little. I thought he was superman??!! Stop the nonsense dude. You sound unintelligent.
@broq9194 media today talking about josh only had 140 yards in a win like he didn't do enough lol
Damn I know Mark Andrews got NO sleep last night.
Nah shady cause when dak Prescott start slow and put up big numbers you say it’s stat padding but cause it’s Lamar Jackson you find a positive
Facts
Good point except against niners Dak never does that he plays bad throughout
Absolute facts
@@mustermaslast time in the playoffs they had a chance to comeback and win but lost so we called Dak a choke artist…. DO THE SAME FOR LAMAR
Dak puts his numbers in garbage time when the other team already has the league. Lamar is not dak he gave his team a fighting chance. Andrews sold
As a Bills fan I have to address this: We been through the toughest times probably more than any other team in the league. Bills Mafia has a level of respect and honor for our opponents that even they have to acknowledge. We donate to our opponents charities not out of pity or satire but pure grace. Lamar Jackson is well respected from US even he acknowledges our purity, but Ravens fans you guys are pure cowards. And I know the trolls don’t represent you guys as a whole but the level of disrespect was really mind boggling this season. Hopefully a slice of humble pie will make them a better fanbase
No way a Bills fan… a fan of a team who has NEVER WON ANYTHING… a fan of a QB that’s never won anything… a fan of a team that’s 0-4 in superbowls and a fan of a team that’s been embarrassing for 60 years… NO WAY you’re telling ravens fans they should be more humble? Who is a bills fan to tell a ravens fan anything!?
@@StepBlvckbro we can still fans of our team regardless of them not winning championships. We are humans and this is a sport. Pipe down bro this some whole other politics.
@@StepBlvckyeah bro your reaction itself proving his point 😂
@ you just proved my point because that has nothing to do with the price of tea in China. You are obviously one of the cowards, but enjoy this offseason because we not done my guy and this Bills fan watched Lamar get handed 2 L’s in Buffalo wtf The 90’s have to do with right now? Fact of the matter is with Josh, Mahomes, Burrow in the AFC Lamar might not ever get to SB. Enjoy the offseason coward
@@BrokenTablesPodand with Lamar, Mahomes and Burrows in the AFC, Josh may not either. I read a lot of hate all season from both fan bases. Both got heated and over reacted to the MVP race. Both talked smack about the other team and QB going into the game last night. You’re a Bills fan, so of course you’re blind to your fanbase’s vitriol. A lot of great Bills and great Ravens fans out there but there’s trolls in every fanbase.
Chase is wrong saying the Ravens never won a game when trailing by 10 in the Lamar era. They have 4 wins THIS SEASON when trailing by 10 in the 2nd half
Then he says Lamar can’t win from being down??? Tell me you don’t watch the games without telling me
@@jarvo9674they never watch games, only clips of the game in the morning, so they know what to run their mouths about to get paid
@@adam7899 like I get it he fumbled which led to a score and the interception which didn’t but both processions we might had scored! We needed a touchdown in the 4th and LJ delivered and he delivered with the 2pt but mark decided not to catch it
PLAYOFFS!
The TEAM lost..
"its not about how you start its about how you finish" only applies to winners. for losers, points in the first minute and points in the final minute worth the exact same
That take from Shady is wild. So if the defense gives up 40 points in the first half but pitches a shutout in the second half its the offenses fault if you lose? All plays matter not just crunch time. Look at the win % for teams that lose in turnover diff. Its always way harder to win if you turn over the ball no matter when the turnovers occur. I realize people probably read this message and say duh that's common knowledge but apparently for Shady it isn't haha
Lamar fanboys ALWAYS have an excuse 😂😂 like damn
When Josh loses again, then what
Then they won’t cry and make excuses like Lamar fanboys 😂
They actually did cry when KC beat them in overtime. So much so that the NFL literally changed the rules.
Lamar Jackson is just like Aaron Rodgers; King during the Regular season and a
Court Jester during the Playoffs.
FRRR 😂😂
3:51 yes shady because both of those drives took momentum away from the ravens if I’m not mistaken that first turn over the ravens was going down to go up 10-7 or 14-7 but instead went down 14-7 and been playing from behind ever since that flipped the game
That’s something that 99% of people don’t understand!!
I watched the whole game.
Those who say the first quarter and second quarter don’t matter shouldn’t speak. I agree with a lot of things he says but this one was a miss. Lamar is to blame. If they win he’d get all the glory but now that they lost they’ll deflect Any and all blame to someone else. It’s pathetic at its finest. Sad thing is Lamar isn’t even putting the blame on anyone else. He doesn’t need people defending him.
@@santoslara9728sounds like you just want to blame Lamar and ignore a ndrews
🎯🎯🎯
Chase wanna blame Lamar but don’t wanna blame Herbert for throwing 4 picks
Herbert is not a multiple time MVP
He racist blue eyes is devil seed chase is hypercrit Herbert threw 4 int he making excuses on Lamar int Bateman ran wrong route Herbert was trash 🗑 Mark Andrews drop wide open pass blame Lamar 😂😂😂😂😂😂thats next level crazy
@ I know what you saying but I’m saying is that chase played with Herbert so he was light with his criticism because that’s his homeboy
@@breonmitchell2443
Your comment is next level irony.
@@antoinetatum9718im a Chargers Fan and I agree and honestly I don’t think this loss was on Lamar. The Chargers definitely on Herbert or at least 80% of it.
It's the coach fault because they wouldn't have to go for two points if he had kicked the extra point earlier but elected to go for 2
I am a Well Known Lamar "Hater" But He Did NOT Play That Bad...Was Snowing out and He Had 2 Turnovers in 1st Half and 1 of Them Was Irrelevant...Other Than That He Played Well Including Making Critical Plays in 2nd Half...Andrews Made The 2 CRITICAL Mistakes...Lamar Did Not CHOKE in This Game
But if this was Burrow y'all would blame him. Y'all contradict yourselves so much.
Nah they wouldn't at least chase wouldn't
Literally no one blamed him when he lost in the afc championship nor the Super Bowl. He’s been living off that Super Bowl run where he scored only 4 tDs that whole playoff run.
@ living off that? His stats dont matter this year? What has Lamar done that burrow hasn't
Didn’t Dak turned it over in the first half to and yall put all the blame on Dak. Hypocrisy at its best!
Keep Dak wack a#% out of this discussion 😂
@@socrates39Nah Lamar is a 2x about to be 3x MVP and he has multiple playoff games where he has turned the football over multiple times.
MAN it feels good to have a QB that runs a 50 yard TD, throw for 128 and win the game. I'd take that over all the QBs that has gone home from turning the ball over. Jalen man, you really like that!!
That was Saquon, the O-line and the defense that won the Eagles that game.
Josh Allen had basically the same stats yesterday, but all he gets is flowers.
Feels even better when 15 is your QB 😂😂
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m qwhat about josh allen then??? he had similar stats and gets praised still. u got biased hate
@@ansonjackson6254pretty funny right Jalen hurts rushes better than Allen too but crickets
Henry had less than 20 carries. I don’t care if it works at first or not, you need him to carry the ball to victory. Kudos to the Bills for a great game.
Bro he was getting stopped on the first half … shiii wasn’t working till second half and even then that was like 1 drive
The Lamar apologist working overtime this week.
Bills defense chopped liver? We played great. Buffalo is responsible for this win. Not Lamar. Not Andrews
Exactly we only did what we had to do to win Josh didnt have to put on the cape today wtv got us the win was how we were gonna win by 1 point or by 100 along as we got the win
@@AnthonyHernandez-wi7zuLamar was the best player on the field but josh did a great job managing the game
@ exactly turnovers Josh kept the ball safe he didn’t turn it over every team that won this week didn’t turn the ball over once turnovers u have to put some blame on Lamar not saying it’s all his fault
Oh, I knew these guys couldn’t wait to bash Lamar. 😂😂😂.
You lamar fanboys are too emotional
Give Lamar all the MVPs he wants, he is a 2 time regular season champion who is all world in the Regular Season, but everyone knows come playoff time Allen is and will always be far better than Lamar. Lamar outplayed Josh Allen this game by throwing an int, causing a fumble and losing the game, but it’s ok tho he’s got the most sensitive fanbase who will make excuses for him no matter how bad he plays. Josh is now 2-0 against Lamar in the playoffs and has far better playoff career numbers but people still want to sit and say Lamar is better. Lamar had 9 pro bowlers and a hall of fame running back but still lost to Josh Allen and a bunch of paper scraps. Enough is enough call it like it is Baltimore fans.
They aren't bashing as much as they are making excuses for him
Exactly they not bashing nothing they babying him and tryna make excuses
@@-JokerIsYourFatherravens need to let go of harbaugh, just like Steelers need to get rid of tomlin, need some new faces, perhaps a more offensive minded coach.
Look Lamar isn’t without blame, but shady isn’t wrong, if mark makes that catch and the ravens win we don’t talk abt Lamar’s turnovers, we only talk abt his turnovers because they lost. Yes he had a fumble that led to buffalo points but he brought them back in the game with a chance to tie it. The OC, the defense in the first half, the whole team is to blame for this loss
QB is allowed to turn the ball over. It’s actually expected since they have the ball so much. What kills you is when players who typically don’t have the ball a ton turn it over. No way you can survive a TE dropping passes at crucial moments and fumbling.
@ Exactly, I was arguing with ppl on ig abt this, marks mistakes were more costly, the fumble midway through was he 4th then the drop
I can’t blame monken at all. Marks drops and fumble took Henry out the game. Lamars pick took at least 3 off the board and that fumble, wtf was that?
@@omeeawakened Yes but at times he got too cute, on the first 2 point play why not run the damn ball like you’ve been doing, the second 2 point play was genius mark just dropped the bucket
@@Qik_Jraw_McRaw Allen and Lamar were drafted in the same year. In the playoffs Allen is 7-5 with 23 TDs 4 INTs. Lamar is 3-5 with 10 TDs 7 INTs. Allen elevates in the playoffs, Lamar crumbles and the stats prove it
I want Shady to hold Lamar accountable the same way he held Aaron Rodger’s accountable and the same way the media held Peyton Manning accountable. Just because the media was wrong during the draft about Lamar doesn’t mean he can’t be scrutinized today.
easier to pick on the older white qb than the younger black qb he may socialize with ;)
I expect fans or media to blame Lamar for something he did in the first half but not former players because every player knows it only matters when it’s crunch time.
Yall are good on the desk. I enjoyed this a lot!
James’ commentary was spot on. It was a group effort in losing. Finally, something went the Bills way. Lamar will be MVP, but will not get the ring. Move on Ravens - the Bill’s have been there and let their close past losses be your teachable moment.
Shady, talking about only the fourth-quarter matters when literally one of his Super Bowl rings came from a game where it was over at halftime…
It's everybody's else's fault when they lose but if Lamar wins a Super Bowl one day he's the one that's gonna get all the credit. Lamar fans will be saying he's top 3 all time lol.
Josh Allen and Burrow are the nfls golden boy. I’m not a Hurts fan, but y’all were hating on him when he only had like 130 passing yards, but y’all are praising Josh Allen for having 127 passing yards? And he only had 20 rushing yards on 10 carries so his rushing ability wasn’t even doing much.
I’m talking mostly about Chase Daniels.
@@caydenantrim2156he's biased as f . It's crazy literally worse numbers than hurts yet he played great
Hurts is a bum, since his days at Bama he’s consistently done the LEAST with the most stacked rosters. Any QB in the playoffs would be blowing teams out with that roster, Jalen is the Eagles weak link
Lol!! If Allen or Burrow were on the Eagles, they'd be unbeatable. Hurts puts up these numbers every week. I can't think of a time Burrow threw for under 150 yards
Ravens beat themselves-Allen didn’t play like Superman, LJ8 did-3 scores in the 2nd half of game and tie last 1 minute…Andrews should’ve caught that catchable pass.
All 60 minutes matter. It’s just like saying the games at the beginning of the season aren’t as important as the ones at the end. Tell that to all the teams that missed the playoffs by one game.
Team game, team blame
That’s not how it goes as much as these qbs make the game is a qb game when he looks good nobody’s giving the team the credit
@derrickmason7457 they will all take blame as players and realize there are moments in these games where early mistakes by others are mostly forgotten. A player will tell you that every time a teammate makes such a mistake. Every player will take some blame. This is a team sport and they know it and they go to bed wondering about that slip off of a route, that holding penalty that takes ya out of FG range, missed PAT's on and on, etc. All important moments within the game. Players and educated fans know that. A lot of fans and media don't though.
Sounds good in theory, but that's not how it works. There's a reason qbs are typically the highest paid players on the team. More responsibility, more credit/blame.
@@SuperSonic_868 I hear you on the money. I hear all that. But "during a game" let's just put Lamar out there, for example. One man vs. eleven. That's how absurd it is to say it's not a team game with more than one to blame. 🤷
lmao shady tripping blaming mark andrews , yes he has part of it but comon... the writing is on the wall... Lamar had some mistakes himself. As someone said in the comments here, if Lamar gets all the praise when they win, then he gets 60-70% of the blame when they lose.
Also think that the opponent gets into his head. I think that when he sees the opposite end of the field and sees Josh Allen, and knows hes a supertstar player himself, he feels like he has to play up to or surpass him, when in reality if he just played like himself and minimize the damage instead of trying to scramble even more when he fumbled then its a whole new ball game
Do you even watch football? Do you have any idea what you're talking about? QBs throw interceptions all the time. Guys fumble - even the best RBs in the league, all the time (pretty much every game). How many times do you see a seasoned veteran pass catcher drop a well thrown game tying pass in the end zone, with nobody on him??!! I'll wait ---------- Maybe never!!! Have we ever seen that in all of football??!! Mark Andrews drops the game tying pass AND ALSO FUMBLES in the same game, basically played THE WORST GAME OF HIS ENTIRE CAREER, and it's not his fault?!! Blame = 60% Mark Andrews, 30% LJ, and 10% the coach and the entire rest of the team (especially the defense). The whole team is to blame, but LJ messed up twice (otherwise played flawlessly), the coach should have ran the ball more, the defense didn't play great, and Mark Andrew's play was absolutely inexcusable - THE WORSE GAME OF HIS CAREER, AND THE WORSE GAME FROM A VETERAN TIGHT END THAT I CAN EVEN REMEMBER. Just tell the truth in life dude. It's makes you feel better.
4:33 if it were not for the turnovers in the first half they would not be trailing
Henry was the real MVP, he almost brought them back in the second half. Harbough wanted Lamar to win the game and it didn't work out.
Where’s all my ravens fans lol? Lamar’s a playoff choker. Josh Allen is better. No debate
How did he choke when he brought them back and put them in position to tie the game and go to overtime
Black quarterbacks are better! Period! Wake-up whiteboy
@@Dont_worry_about_it-y4ufumble the ball interceptions that’s why ya lost bum
Burrow and Josh better then Lamar
@@poloact6838 speak for yourself whiteboy!
"Lamar can't play from behind, he is 0-10 when trailing by 2 tds at half". Man, WHAT? HE beat Cinci 2x this year alone while behind 2 TDs in the second half. They find the smallest glimpse of reason to try and support their argument
The Regular season champion, come the playoffs what the story? LOL off to Cancun he goes.
Ravens were down 3 at half the first game, and down 7 at half the second game
Facts-Ravens had 6 games this season when they played from behind AND they won 4 of those!
Did he beat the Bengals or did the Ravens beat the Bengals? See, this is what people are talking about when they say you all give Lamar all the praise when the Ravens win. You all change the narrative when the Ravens lose. Then it becomes a team thing.
@@rm5282 well LJ8 is THE leader. He leads the way but you’re right in all sports, it’s a team effort. I think what is Ravens fans are saying is LJ8 put in his superman cape and lead the team to 3 scores in the 2nd half and could’ve tied the game with over a minute in the last quarter…if your Andrews you NEED to catch a very catchable pass.
Everyone today jumping hurdles trying to not blame Lamar. HES NOT THAT GUY!!!!
People were having that same conversation about Payton Lamar is only getting better
He is that guy. You think Josh is too right? They've both accomplished what at this point that makes one better than the other. Every game matters.
No excuses Lamar’s gotta win that game.
@@mattmmixes he can't throw to himself. He drove the field and the TE dropped the pass. Lamar made him drop it. I get it now
It's crazy!
He didn't drop the game winner , Josh would have had a minute to go down the field and all he needed was a field goal to win the game!!
Andrews 2 point conversion drop was not the game ender! Did you even watch? Bills still had 1:36 left and would’ve done the mahones last min field goal. Ravens choked plain and simple. But the bills controlled the whole game. Stop acting like the ravens were better. The better team won!
BS!!! Of course the Ravens were better, never got stopped on offense or even punted the ball. Without the mistakes they would have destroyed the Bills, just like last time. Ravens (the better team) didn't play their best game and the Bills won, barely. If they played again, we all know who would win, again. (not the Bills!!!) But congrats, fortune was on their side. It happens
1:53 it wasn’t a game winner
Right, he dropped the Game Loser
And the glazing for Josh Allen begins
He's 2-0 against Lamar in the playoffs and going to AFC Championship game. What's Lamar doing?
@CoelSOPASTLOCAL idc for either. I'm just telling you that the glazing for Josh Allen begins. I see what the media does when it comes to Josh. They love that boy
Yeah he’s a great QB?
He's the 2nd best QB after burrow he should get props
@@MadBeastTitanLamar is glazed every season even tho he’s 3-5 in the postseason
That fumble change the game mark did
Lamar is the high school Prom Girl you only get to 1st base with
Lamar, once again, has his worst game of the season, in a playoff loss. This is who he is
His worst game was the first one against the Steelers. You haters are really clowns
So we’re back to lying now?
That's absolute BS. LJ played like an MVP and also made two critical mistakes. Aside from the pick and fumble, his numbers and play were excellent. You must have a really sad and pathetic life to hate another man so much for absolutely no reason at all. That's the real tragedy here. This is who YOU are, and I'm so glad I'm not you. smh
The Ravens got into the playoffs and tried to make this game about Lamar and him being the hero instead of focusing and featuring Derrick Henry more.
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m I agree with that. It's on the coaching staff.
Where do you guys get this stuff from? Derrick was being shut down in the first half so they tried to pass the football in order to keep pace. It wasn’t a conspiracy. When one thing isn’t working you try something else.
Because the bills took that away early. He was the true threat. We weren't too worried about lamar.
Of course giving a black qb excuses, Allen woulda been crucified for those two turnovers
Lol you big mad racist - they never criticize josh Allen . You're a bad troll
If the Andrews catches the 🏈 it would've tied the game but Josh Allen gets the ball back so we will never know what would've happened!! 2nd there's always a reason year after year why the Ravens don't make the Superbowl!!;🤔🤔🤔
Just remember Lamar is the same quarterback that they said would never win A playoff game, he should change his position, he can’t throw, his style of play is not sustainable.. now look at today they criticize dude because he’s a two time mvp which majority of these folks never seen that coming.. now it’s can he win a supwrbowl! Man get y’all popcorn ready cuz god willing Lamar and the ravens team here to stay!
Lamar a regular season QB
So is Josh Allen
I love Lamar to death but man I’m startnn to believe it man 💯
We’re is Josh Allen postseason championships?
They should’ve ran Henry at least 25 times
Everybody but Monken and Harbaugh knows that.
Yeah give him 40 carries so he tears his ACl so they lose every game next year smart
I mean you have one of the best power backs in the league….why are you throwing the ball….
Because if you haven't noticed goofy raven fans only want to win when it's Lamar that's carrying the team. They got more caught up with the 3rd MVP race over keep focused on the main objective getting to the Superbowl and winning.
It was because the Bills secondary is trash 🗑️!
Derrick Henry isnt a power back. He's a great RB but not a power back...
Maybe its because you make 2 costly turnovers early in the game and you have no option but to abandon the run game when youre playing from behind…
As a heavy ravens fan this game was on Lamar….sadly.
9:39 then why u killin mark andrews
I blame them for not having 300+ rushing yards on a DB heavy defense, those turnovers don't really matter as much as giving QB designed runs and giving King Henry the ball, Todd Monkin should've just stuck to what wins them games all season.
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He doesn’t show up when it matters, amazing regular season player though.
He showed up
Amazing player… u can’t take it away from him
@ he definitely is, but he has to show up when it matters..He has all the weapons
His stats was better than Allen's period
@@britesturdivant2229 only stat that counts in the playoffs is wins
So josh Allen’s numbers don’t matter but Jalen hurts puts up similar numbers and is called trash? Wildddd
See LeSean is accepting things that he wouldn’t win or loss.
The blame is on the coach for going for a two-point conversion for a tie in the third quarter when you didn't need to tie it then. It wound up costing you the game ... stop with the stupid analytics already!
Lamar played good game but come on that INT and drop ball was a so obviously bad.. and it is not like he throw 400 yards and use time wisely. It was the defense who hold strong and gave Lamar chance to redeem himself.. If Bills played decent in 2nd half, which they were capable of and Coaching staff is so conservative they almost gave game away.. I would blame Bills offense calling and keep using Running game when 8 man in the box is dumb.. could should used Allen feet and long passes or TE were options but they didn’t
Lamar being clumsy with football fumble
What about that horrible snap?😂
@blackfase7009 yea but u can't make it worse especially in slippery conditions
@@jesusm2159so it’s Lamar’s fault for the bad snap what are yall talking about? If the snap hadn’t happened zero chance of fumbling quit finding every way to blame one person
@keymold4405 didn't blame him just the clumsy careless to not secure ball in bad conditions
@@jesusm2159 like I said u talking about what happened as a result of what happened earlier, pure brainrot.
Ravens 6 losses on the season. Can we quit acting like they were a 15/16 win team? Lost to the browns and raiders. They are built to run and be physical. Lamar can’t throw when needed and forced to. He chokes and turns it over. He’s 3-7 in the playoffs. Quit acting like he 7-3. Andrew’s didn’t lose the other 6 games
@therealbeedubbs35 You make 0 sense, bro! We're talking about last night's game, not the last 6. He made mistakes in the first half but made it up in the second half. Down by 2, threw a dagger, and Andrew dropped the pass to tie the game. None of it would have mattered if Andrew caught that pass.
@@jephteclersaint4204I make zero sense by pointing out how Lamar chokes in the playoffs time and time again? He didn’t show up last year against KC, or year before etc. even if Andrew’s caught that ball Bills were kicking a FG and winning. Josh didn’t have to take over the game but he would have if he needed too. Check the stats, Lamar is a choker
@therealbeedubbs35 He showed up when it mattered the most last night, but Andrews let him down. I think that's the most important part of the story. It was a heck of a game, I enjoyed the entertainment factors. He had a slow start, but he got them right there while they still had a chance. Choking is like Lebron in the 2011 NBA finals against the Dallas Mavericks.
@@jephteclersaint4204So having two big turnovers in a game is showing up
@jakieresykes3644 Making up for early mistakes is showing up. He's not playing against himself out there. The other team is also making things happen, too. He could have easily folded after the mistakes. He still had them in a position to win or at least go into overtime. There was no guarantee that if even if he didn't turn the ball over, the Bills weren't going to find another way to win. The Bills are also a very good football team, too. Had he made the same mistakes against a terrible team and lost, no one would have had anything to say.
Guys, the big tight end was cold, people think that when you get out there and play in that cold in that weather they think you are immune to it........The big tight end was affected by the cold weather.
Y’all post the next day when the ravens lose but if when we win yall post 3 days later… shout out to shady for being stand up 💯
aww tough days for all the Bills haters on this panel
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6:30 true story!!’
Pressure bursts pipes; remember that...
Blame Lamar for 1st half , blame Mark for second half. But since Lamar is an Elite QB he has to get most of blame cause every other qb would be getting killed
Can you imagine if rolls were switched and Josh had 2 turnovers like Lamar in that game and they LOST... he'd be shredded to death today.. but Lamar gets fan boy treatment from the media!!!
If Josh Allen had a 72% completion rate, 254 passing yards, 2 TDs, couldn't be stopped (never punted), lead his team all the way downfield to score a TD in the last 2 minutes, threw a perfect strike 2 pt. conversion in the endzone (that was dropped,) WE WOULD ALL BE TALKING ABOUT HOW HORRIBE HE IS BECAUSE OF TWO MISTAKES IN THE FIRST HALF??!! Really?? You sound really unintelligent right now. I feel sorry for you. smh
i love how they’re applauding josh allen for doing exactly what they critique hurts for
Mark Andrews didn't drop the game winner.... They would have tied up the game the bills would have got the ball back with enough time to get in field goal range and most likely win the game without going into overtime...
As someone who has criticized Lamar's QB play over and over again, , he was not 100% the reason they lost. . Dude placed a PERFECT ball in Andrews hands and my dude dropped it AGAIN