Good to see Danny with an appearance! As far as Daboll & Scohen stay, terminate them both. It’s inevitable. We’ll be 2-6 next year than Scorn has to fire Daboll and Schoen gets fired at the end of season. Schoen needs to go for the Jones contract and Daboll put the target on him when he took over play calling. His redzone offense is offensive.
Well I’d like to just take accountability for one. Dude really tried to say “we’re a good 2-8” like dude stfu we suck we’re terrible we’re the worst team in the nfl and have been for 10 years. I much rather hear the gm admit we have a problem and focus on building a solution instead of excuses. It’s weak and we all see through it. Admit he is wrong and made mistakes and focus on making better decisions
What has Schoen done to prove he deserves to pick our next QB? I keep seeing people say they don't want him fired. But I haven't seen a single legitimate reason to keep him. The guy admitted to being fooled by the 2022 season. He thought this team was a playoff contender going forward with DJ. Instead of rebuilding he decided to pay DJ $40 million and Brian Burns $28 million. Meanwhile he let our best players (Saquon and McKinney) walk in Free agency for nothing. This season he's letting Slayton, Ojulari and Singletary among others walk for nothing. He drafts for need. He's got no idea what he's watching. Just 2 weeks ago he said we're close in a 2-10 season. 😂 Honestly I think people just want him back bc they're not ready to admit this has been a complete failure. But it has and the longer we keep Schoen and Daboll around the longer we extend the misery. These 2 have failed. Now it's Mara's job to fix his mistake. RIP RIP potato chip Justin
I've been saying that for weeks but all the Ward/Sanders lovers want us to believe that they are musts! I don't trust Joe Schoen and his evaluation team at all. One good draft in 3 years is unacceptable
@@Mr.Brightside8810 Yeah, I like "Paulie Dotts", him and I are around the same age but his "homerness" can be a little too much. Because of that he isn't being totally honest about the badness of today's giant's team, it's ownership and management.
With all that said regarding ex Giant players doing well. Makes you wonder if the present coaching/system is actually good. Plus...talk about past drafts...since 2018 the Giants had 10 first round picks. There's 6 left...
Hey Danny, good to see you. Daboll being a successful Coordinator is one thing. Managing the Head Coaching job is another thing entirely. Is he in over his head? Idk what’s going on other than what we’re told. Nevertheless, … “You are what your record is.” - Bill Parcells As for GM Joe, the jury is still out regarding his drafts to varying extents. That might be a little generous too. The 2024 class looks promising thus far. Someone asked if he can be trusted to draft the next QB? Great question, wish I could say yes with confidence. To be fair, drafting QBs is the toughest task of all. Thanks Bobby, love the Mailbags, happy holidays!
AS a Giant fan since 1970, my prediction on them coming back is that they will be back. They will show improvement. Mara will extend them, and then they will regress again. Thus mirroring Daniel Jones's situation. Because the Mara's never learn from their mistakes.
I think that Mara should look at the end of the season and how we play out. If we finish bottom, well then Daboll and Schoen should be out. Why would you go another season with them after a total collapse? No, bring in a new regime that can truly draft their own QB. The timing is perfect. Mara should be ruthless now.
@@flipindisticalproductions4736 Mara said he isn't getting rid of the disastrous duo. But he said the same thing about Judge during his second season also.
@@TrollKing2781 yeah, I know. Mara must have a breaking point? He can't just accept us losing out? Surely he'll pull the plug, like Judge, absolutely correct, do it again, Mara.
@@TrollKing2781Mara never said he wasn’t firing them . He said he’s not gonna fire them during this season . He said he doesn’t want to keep firing these guys after 3 years . But all knwo he will
Has anyone realized that in 22 this TEAM has an identity both on offense and defense?? In 23-24 the identity has completely changed and become SOFT!!! Daboll wants to throw the ball 30-40x a game and the defense wants to give free yards up before every play!!!!!! SOFT!!!
I hope John Merrick cleans house but me saying that. I should have a GM in mind.I actually have 4. Please tell me what you think Kansas city chiefs MIKE Borgonzi 15 years as a GM Baltimore ravens Joe Hortiz 25 years as a GM San francisco 49ERS Adam Peter's. 7 years Under john lynch Dallas. Cowboys Will McClay There is my list of gyms.Please tell me what you think
Brian Daboll has done a horrible job!!!! What has Daboll done well?!! Joe clean the cap and brought in young talent It’s the coaches job to develop them!!!!!
Should there be an obvious sign of team growth at this point in a GM's tenure, regardless of having a "franchise" QB? In my opinion, there should be obvious signs of team growth by now. I see team regression as was said in this podcast. Damning for both Daboll and Schoen.
Good question - I’d say a combination of coaching, scheme, fit, teammates, culture & overall organizational management. Winning covers up an awful lot of ills. Losing does the exact opposite. Any situation in any field of endeavor will always be stressed out when the negatives greatly outweigh any positives.
I hated the early start time for MNF when i was in Vegas. The Giants were playing Pittsburgh and my wife was trying to drag me to dinner. We ended up getting takeout and watching us get squashed.
Mostly agree on the Schoenless/ Dabozo discussion, but shouldn’t player regression be more of a ding against coaching and not strictly held against the GM?
the starting 5 was actually solid. Best we've seen in years. But, like you said, once Andrew Thomas went down (which unfortunately we have to expect at this point), the depth was shit. If they fire Schoen and Daboll, I wonder if they keep Bricillo?
I guess I would lean towards firing Schoen and Daboll, and just start anew, this time with a rookie QB, and try building the team around him. If they go 2-15 and things keep getting worse in the locker room, it might force Mara's hand. Also, I wonder how bad the defense will look without Dex?
I understand Bobby doesn't want to do the Gettleman thing where Mara fires Daboll but keeps Schoen…but what about the reverse? Fire Schoen, Keep Daboll?
Keep Slayton great teammate does his job never complains Hyatt is an enigma in camp last season he made one of the acrobatic catches you ever seen yet he rarely sees the field has all the speed you can want somebody needs to work with him to learn how to play the position 2nd round pick !
Not a chance. They were promised another year as they complied with Mara's demand to pay and keep Daniel. Mara does not want to lose all credibility as it would be tough to bring in a replacement as we've had so much recent turnover to our staff.
Hey followers, I know you probably have heard this before, but hear me out. I would like to suggest a trade. As we know, some drafted players take time adjusting to the NFL, See: Sam Darnold. Joe Schoen should look into a trade for 3rd string Quarterback from the Denver Broncos, Zach Wilson. Only 25 years old, 3+ years in the NFL, 1st round pick of the NY Jets, strong arm, etc. He looked great this past August in a few exhibition games. Could be a bridge starter or better. First pick can then be a BPA, or CB, IDL, OT, or take a QB in the 2nd or 3rd picks and have him "Sit" behind the starter till ready. Just trying to think a little outside the box. Thanks
Bobby how come no one is talking about how Daniel Jones has a different philosophy of a qb handing the ball off to now a 7 million per year running back than Schoen
I don’t think Joe would out Dabes to ownership like Gettleman bc they seem pretty tight and they’ve been working together for a while and Joe seems somewhat respectful of his colleagues. that being said I’ve seen zero reason why they should stay other than the first year where they won a playoff game with a roster not built by them. Daboll would be great to have stay around but i’m hesitant to believe every GM candidate will be willing to partner with what he wants.
I have been before keeping the coach. I have literally gotten mad and left people's channels because of them saying it, but I am starting to coming around.Hi, i'm thinking they're probably best for the team to part ways.
What do you think of the idea of Schoen staying because he nailed the draft this year and this is the first year where he got rid of all of Gettlemans Scouts so maybe he’ll be good now
I don’t think so. They’ll draft and develop a QB and have two years to do so. They will also sign a bridge. I think ownership is just as much in on the tank, and is going to give them a chance. I think Daboll will have to make staffing changes. Kafka and Bowen are probably gone.
I still like Daboll I think with a decent OC he can get back to being head coach like he wanted. I’m just worried more that the timing didn’t work out with the QBs in this draft. Hard to have hope as an NY fan 😢
Did you hear the after game comments from Lamar Jackson after the Ravens loss to the Eagles, go listen. Jackson said. “I’m mad. We’re going to get after it. I’m not going to lie to you, we’re going to get after it. I can’t wait for this bye to get on. We got the Giants coming up, I’m ready to go,” he added. I was thinking it couldn't get uglier, think I miscalculated a bit.
I think JMS still has shoulder issues, which is not good for a football player that bangs shoulders on every play. If injury is the case, his future with the Giants is problematic.
I agree with Bobby, you gotta clean house. Also all the former giants doing better somewhere else from Evan engram to Leonard Williams are all Gettleman guys. Hell even the “foundation” of the team now is mostly gettleman guys. Maybe we should question why they are paying a guy 💸💸💸 to resign and retain a previous failed GM’s squad
Why are we supposed to covet these position coaches? Patterson apparently gets all the credit for Dex but no responsibility for the dozens of players he hasn’t gotten anything out of. Oh wait! Remember he’s also helping coach the pass rushers now? ONE SACK IN FOUR GAMES! Or Henderson, who helps low wage CBs look semi-respectable but can’t get first, second, or third round picks develop an ounce of ball awareness. His DBs broke the record for consecutive games without an INT, should we give him the DC job?
@@michaelpecorale3202they hire these people so yes lmaoo they’d probably still be here if they had a respectable backup but they dont care about depth obviously
JMS Needs to add strength and muscle he gets pushed around and ragdolled Evan Neal has to learn how to play guard because he can't play tackle he maybe he can play center probably too damn tall !
Bobby your take is kinda backwards. You rarely see a GM get fired and the coach he hired survives. If they fire Daboll and if Schoen hires a proven veteran coach with a winning resume while drafting Sanders or Ward then would you really care if he's still around?
And side note your wrong about Hyatt.... Giants. Don't know have to develop he needs to be paired with a will Levi's ,josh Allen,CJ STROUD,a Tua he was best wr in college in Tennessee and they don't understand have to make him a asset just like most the roster and poor decisions is why I fire Joe and Dabol
You really can't respond to complete circus dysfuction by retaining all the people responsible for it, starting with the meddling robber baron owner. I picture him in a tiny Ryan Howard office with luminescent stars and moons on the walls and a Super Important Person's Office sign on a door that can't be opened from the inside. "Knock when you need a fresh piss bottle, John! We'll slide it in under the door imaginably!"
Schoen is a horrible evaluator and not only of talent but of his own talent in the building and how certain players keep the locker room together. Schoen got rid of everyone who kept players in line and thought if I pay this guy or that guy $30M he’ll be a leader and that hasn’t worked
Schoen was exposed on Hardnocks as being a goof ball, and being in over his head. Daboll looked stupid as well on the show. We have an issue with our scouts!
"Justin is dead" lol
That's no excuse. Get Zombie Justin on the program!!🧟♀
Justin Rest in Peace it was good run brother 💪 😂😂
he's just sleeping.
2-15 would be the Worst record in Giants history. How do you Not fire them???
Good to see Danny with an appearance! As far as Daboll & Scohen stay, terminate them both. It’s inevitable. We’ll be 2-6 next year than Scorn has to fire Daboll and Schoen gets fired at the end of season. Schoen needs to go for the Jones contract and Daboll put the target on him when he took over play calling. His redzone offense is offensive.
Welcome back goat Danny 🤴
Hell yeah Danny King!!! Danny coming back for the weather man job!??
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Joe Schoen lost me at his bye week press conference.
What else did you what him to say ?
Well I’d like to just take accountability for one. Dude really tried to say “we’re a good 2-8” like dude stfu we suck we’re terrible we’re the worst team in the nfl and have been for 10 years. I much rather hear the gm admit we have a problem and focus on building a solution instead of excuses. It’s weak and we all see through it. Admit he is wrong and made mistakes and focus on making better decisions
@@1kJaebingo. I’m so confused on what people wanted him to say…scream and yell?
“Matt Peart is playing the best of his career.” LMFAO!
What has Schoen done to prove he deserves to pick our next QB? I keep seeing people say they don't want him fired. But I haven't seen a single legitimate reason to keep him. The guy admitted to being fooled by the 2022 season. He thought this team was a playoff contender going forward with DJ. Instead of rebuilding he decided to pay DJ $40 million and Brian Burns $28 million. Meanwhile he let our best players (Saquon and McKinney) walk in Free agency for nothing. This season he's letting Slayton, Ojulari and Singletary among others walk for nothing. He drafts for need. He's got no idea what he's watching. Just 2 weeks ago he said we're close in a 2-10 season. 😂
Honestly I think people just want him back bc they're not ready to admit this has been a complete failure. But it has and the longer we keep Schoen and Daboll around the longer we extend the misery. These 2 have failed. Now it's Mara's job to fix his mistake.
RIP RIP potato chip Justin
Singletary has another 4.5 mil guaranteed coming to him in 2025. He isn't going anywhere.
fire the entire talent evaluation team!!!!! I am so scared what we will do in the draft..esp with such a weak QB class!!!!
I've been saying that for weeks but all the Ward/Sanders lovers want us to believe that they are musts! I don't trust Joe Schoen and his evaluation team at all. One good draft in 3 years is unacceptable
Haven't heard that one yet😂
This is such a weak take
Well, I disagree
Evaluating talent isn’t the problem… it’s developing the talent.
Mara and Paul Dattino have a thing for each other
P. DOTT is such a Homer he always tows that company line and offers EVERY excuse for them
@@Mr.Brightside8810 Yeah, I like "Paulie Dotts", him and I are around the same age but his "homerness" can be a little too much. Because of that he isn't being totally honest about the badness of today's giant's team, it's ownership and management.
Dottino is the best in the business. His knowledge of New York Giants is unmatched.
@@Matt90541 Whatever.
@@Matt90541 Yea ok bud.
With all that said regarding ex Giant players doing well.
Makes you wonder if the present coaching/system is actually good.
Plus...talk about past drafts...since 2018 the Giants had 10 first round picks. There's 6 left...
Mr.Mara, Fire Joe Schoen & Daboll PLEASE Sir, it's XMAS 😢
Hey Danny, good to see you. Daboll being a successful Coordinator is one thing. Managing the Head Coaching job is another thing entirely. Is he in over his head? Idk what’s going on other than what we’re told. Nevertheless, … “You are what your record is.”
- Bill Parcells
As for GM Joe, the jury is still out regarding his drafts to varying extents. That might be a little generous too. The 2024 class looks promising thus far. Someone asked if he can be trusted to draft the next QB? Great question, wish I could say yes with confidence. To be fair, drafting QBs is the toughest task of all.
Thanks Bobby, love the Mailbags, happy holidays!
Call Sean Peyton and ask who he likes as QB coming out of the draft
@@johnbunalski2414
Too soon to make a final evaluation.
AS a Giant fan since 1970, my prediction on them coming back is that they will be back. They will show improvement. Mara will extend them, and then they will regress again. Thus mirroring Daniel Jones's situation. Because the Mara's never learn from their mistakes.
Im not even a giants fan but as a raiders fan i like to see what misery looks like in different colors. Thank you.
I think that Mara should look at the end of the season and how we play out. If we finish bottom, well then Daboll and Schoen should be out. Why would you go another season with them after a total collapse? No, bring in a new regime that can truly draft their own QB. The timing is perfect. Mara should be ruthless now.
IF we finish bottom. Is this a joke.
@@TrollKing2781 that's where we're headed, I'm afraid, and if that won't take Mara to sack the lot of them, then I don't know what will?
@@flipindisticalproductions4736 Mara said he isn't getting rid of the disastrous duo. But he said the same thing about Judge during his second season also.
@@TrollKing2781 yeah, I know. Mara must have a breaking point? He can't just accept us losing out? Surely he'll pull the plug, like Judge, absolutely correct, do it again, Mara.
@@TrollKing2781Mara never said he wasn’t firing them . He said he’s not gonna fire them during this season . He said he doesn’t want to keep firing these guys after 3 years . But all knwo he will
They won't be fired. Mara and Tisch don't have the spine to do it.
btw..sack the defensive coordinator..i dont care we r high in sacks if we cant stop the run!!!!!
And we only have 1 INT. and its by our rookie linebacker
@@SupaNatural28off of a tipped pass
I could not agree more, good call.
I don't know if we're even in the league lead anymore but we haven't gotten a sack in like 5 games lol
@@David-j9h9g … and zero sacks in the last 3?or 4 games
It’s a talent development issue and it always will be in my opinion
Has anyone realized that in 22 this TEAM has an identity both on offense and defense??
In 23-24 the identity has completely changed and become SOFT!!!
Daboll wants to throw the ball 30-40x a game and the defense wants to give free yards up before every play!!!!!!
SOFT!!!
Danny is KING
I’ll answer your question with this: Is Talkin Giants the best Giants podcast and one of the best NFL podcasts? The answer is yes! Fire everyone!!!
You got me in the thumbnail I ain’t gonna lie
I hope John Merrick cleans house but me saying that.
I should have a GM in mind.I actually have 4. Please tell me what you think
Kansas city chiefs
MIKE Borgonzi 15 years as a GM
Baltimore ravens
Joe Hortiz 25 years as a GM
San francisco 49ERS
Adam Peter's. 7 years Under john lynch
Dallas.
Cowboys
Will McClay
There is my list of gyms.Please tell me what you think
Brian Daboll has done a horrible job!!!!
What has Daboll done well?!!
Joe clean the cap and brought in young talent
It’s the coaches job to develop them!!!!!
Should there be an obvious sign of team growth at this point in a GM's tenure, regardless of having a "franchise" QB? In my opinion, there should be obvious signs of team growth by now. I see team regression as was said in this podcast. Damning for both Daboll and Schoen.
If good players are bad when they are with us then isn’t it the coach?
Good question - I’d say a combination of coaching, scheme, fit, teammates, culture & overall organizational management. Winning covers up an awful lot of ills. Losing does the exact opposite. Any situation in any field of endeavor will always be stressed out when the negatives greatly outweigh any positives.
I hated the early start time for MNF when i was in Vegas. The Giants were playing Pittsburgh and my wife was trying to drag me to dinner. We ended up getting takeout and watching us get squashed.
Mostly agree on the Schoenless/ Dabozo discussion, but shouldn’t player regression be more of a ding against coaching and not strictly held against the GM?
Daniel Jones being great for Vikings and then McCarthy who they passed on being great would just be beyond insult to injury
I wanted Schoen gone since this past offseason. It was so easy to see this team didn’t get any better despite him “making the roster his own”
Andrew Thomas goes down, season over AGAIN. 85 sacks and 0 linemen in the draft. 0 depth. I'm done with both of them.
What's a rookie lineman gonna do
@phwaygodarhma2328 Cooper Beebe shut down the Giants last week. But we needed a corner who still has 0 interceptions in his college and pro career.
@@BrettM765 I'd rather get a lineman in FA and get DT in draft
the starting 5 was actually solid. Best we've seen in years. But, like you said, once Andrew Thomas went down (which unfortunately we have to expect at this point), the depth was shit. If they fire Schoen and Daboll, I wonder if they keep Bricillo?
I guess I would lean towards firing Schoen and Daboll, and just start anew, this time with a rookie QB, and try building the team around him. If they go 2-15 and things keep getting worse in the locker room, it might force Mara's hand. Also, I wonder how bad the defense will look without Dex?
Danny👑 back
Get off his meat Bozo. It's over.
East coast is the best! West coast is way too chill
I understand Bobby doesn't want to do the Gettleman thing where Mara fires Daboll but keeps Schoen…but what about the reverse? Fire Schoen, Keep Daboll?
Don’t forget Chris manhertz also has a TD this year lol pain is real right now
Keep Slayton great teammate does his job never complains Hyatt is an enigma in camp
last season he made one of the acrobatic catches you ever seen yet he rarely sees the
field has all the speed you can want somebody needs to work with him to learn
how to play the position 2nd round pick !
Not a chance. They were promised another year as they complied with Mara's demand to pay and keep Daniel. Mara does not want to lose all credibility as it would be tough to bring in a replacement as we've had so much recent turnover to our staff.
Fate of Daboll and Schoen rankings:
1. Fire both
2. Keep Daboll, fire Schoen
3. Keep both
4. Fire Daboll, keep Schoen
rip to Justin passed so young in a self sucking accident
Not fired #1 pick get QB
Hey followers, I know you probably have heard this before, but hear me out. I would like to suggest a trade. As we know, some drafted players take time adjusting to the NFL, See: Sam Darnold. Joe Schoen should look into a trade for 3rd string Quarterback from the Denver Broncos, Zach Wilson. Only 25 years old, 3+ years in the NFL, 1st round pick of the NY Jets, strong arm, etc. He looked great this past August in a few exhibition games. Could be a bridge starter or better. First pick can then be a BPA, or CB, IDL, OT, or take a QB in the 2nd or 3rd picks and have him "Sit" behind the starter till ready. Just trying to think a little outside the box. Thanks
Bobby how come no one is talking about how Daniel Jones has a different philosophy of a qb handing the ball off to now a 7 million per year running back than Schoen
Hi
They fucking better
Well, it concerns me we suck at evaluating talent, and a Mara is part of evaluating talent. I don't see that ever changing.
I don’t think Joe would out Dabes to ownership like Gettleman bc they seem pretty tight and they’ve been working together for a while and Joe seems somewhat respectful of his colleagues. that being said I’ve seen zero reason why they should stay other than the first year where they won a playoff game with a roster not built by them. Daboll would be great to have stay around but i’m hesitant to believe every GM candidate will be willing to partner with what he wants.
JMS would perform better if the offense was actually moving also
Agreed Bobby, bring back Slayton.
I have been before keeping the coach. I have literally gotten mad and left people's channels because of them saying it, but I am starting to coming around.Hi, i'm thinking they're probably best for the team to part ways.
It’s crazy how the Daniel Jones supporters are all of a sudden worried about the QB talent in this year’s draft! 🤦🏾♂️
Why draft a QB ? They have Tommy Cutlets and his clown agent HYPING everything up. That’s your QB now
What do you think of the idea of Schoen staying because he nailed the draft this year and this is the first year where he got rid of all of Gettlemans Scouts so maybe he’ll be good now
Fiction.
I hope so
I don’t think so. They’ll draft and develop a QB and have two years to do so. They will also sign a bridge. I think ownership is just as much in on the tank, and is going to give them a chance. I think Daboll will have to make staffing changes. Kafka and Bowen are probably gone.
I still like Daboll I think with a decent OC he can get back to being head coach like he wanted. I’m just worried more that the timing didn’t work out with the QBs in this draft. Hard to have hope as an NY fan 😢
Did you hear the after game comments from Lamar Jackson after the Ravens loss to the Eagles, go listen. Jackson said. “I’m mad. We’re going to get after it. I’m not going to lie to you, we’re going to get after it. I can’t wait for this bye to get on. We got the Giants coming up, I’m ready to go,” he added. I was thinking it couldn't get uglier, think I miscalculated a bit.
Scohen needs to be fired for what he did to saquon Barkley just that alone he needs to go
The room was lost the moment they benched Jones
been losing for 6 years with Jones
Nobody gives a $h!+ about Jones.
“If its cheap enough id do Azeez” Danny you sure you not at them parties
Too patient with bad players I mean DJ got 6 years and $100 mil 😂😂😂
Kafka play calling got the giants to the playoffs not daboll
Barkley got the giants to the playoffs. Not Kafka or DJ or Daboll.
@cooldude7821 I'm talking bout coaching wise it's kafka, player personnel wise it was DJ and Barkley that led us to the playoffs
@@Mato-x6g Janiel Domes has never led anyone or anything anywhere on an high school, college or NFL football field. And he never will.
Saquan being close to breaking the single season rushing record is why they need to be fired
Can we get Belichick? Even in a wheel chair. Need to change culture
Need to 🧹🏠
Clean house, trade back, punt 2025, sign a bridge and take a QB in 26
Ok Joe Schoen has updated the Giants draft and free agency operation. Maybe we can demote him to IT guy and hire a good GM?
Both should be fired for letting Saquon go
“I would trade Jalen Hyatt for some Coney Island NATHANS Hot Dogs!
Don’t forget the mustard and kraut.
Kafka was blocked from a lateral move last year and is highly thought of - any chance Schoen stays - Daboll gets fired and replaced with Kafka?
Nope. Daboll is his boy.
That's a big no on kafia as HC. Foh.
lol ‘mike muffmaster’
I think JMS still has shoulder issues, which is not good for a football player that bangs shoulders on every play. If injury is the case, his future with the Giants is problematic.
First like. Don’t have to watch the video to know its quality
Yup, Bobby, Justin & guests consistently good!
JMS= Dave Rimington 2.0
A Floridian and a Californian discuss the New York Giants
Racist.
@ 😮
Cam ward and restropo
"As long as u can snap the ball and not get bulldozed every play" LMFAO The bar is in hell for the Giants 💀
There will be no one at the games until schoen and Daboll are gone
I agree with Bobby, you gotta clean house. Also all the former giants doing better somewhere else from Evan engram to Leonard Williams are all Gettleman guys. Hell even the “foundation” of the team now is mostly gettleman guys. Maybe we should question why they are paying a guy 💸💸💸 to resign and retain a previous failed GM’s squad
Mentioning Justin and a jacuzzi at the same time is just wrong
Why are we supposed to covet these position coaches? Patterson apparently gets all the credit for Dex but no responsibility for the dozens of players he hasn’t gotten anything out of. Oh wait! Remember he’s also helping coach the pass rushers now? ONE SACK IN FOUR GAMES!
Or Henderson, who helps low wage CBs look semi-respectable but can’t get first, second, or third round picks develop an ounce of ball awareness. His DBs broke the record for consecutive games without an INT, should we give him the DC job?
Nope everything has to fall on schoen and daboll apparently
@@michaelpecorale3202 Who hired the position coaches?
@@michaelpecorale3202they hire these people so yes lmaoo they’d probably still be here if they had a respectable backup but they dont care about depth obviously
6:30 horse shit, they passed on 3 potential starting qbs in jjm, nix and penix.
Ohio hot dogs got him sick
I hope Dimes crushes in MN. It didn’t work here, but can anyone really blame him completely?
😂😅😂😅😂. More like Janiel Domes is gonna get crushed if he ever sees the field in Minnesota.
JMS Needs to add strength and muscle he gets pushed around and ragdolled Evan Neal has to
learn how to play guard because he can't play tackle he maybe he can play center probably
too damn tall !
did we fire Justin?
No he died
@@TalkinGiants - oh shit. where do we send the flowers?
Bobby your take is kinda backwards. You rarely see a GM get fired and the coach he hired survives. If they fire Daboll and if Schoen hires a proven veteran coach with a winning resume while drafting Sanders or Ward then would you really care if he's still around?
And side note your wrong about Hyatt.... Giants. Don't know have to develop he needs to be paired with a will Levi's ,josh Allen,CJ STROUD,a Tua he was best wr in college in Tennessee and they don't understand have to make him a asset just like most the roster and poor decisions is why I fire Joe and Dabol
Holly Wood brown?
You really can't respond to complete circus dysfuction by retaining all the people responsible for it, starting with the meddling robber baron owner. I picture him in a tiny Ryan Howard office with luminescent stars and moons on the walls and a Super Important Person's Office sign on a door that can't be opened from the inside. "Knock when you need a fresh piss bottle, John! We'll slide it in under the door imaginably!"
The blitzball ads are the most annoying thing
Wow didn’t even miss Penik. Keep Danny on for good.
We’ll consider it
They have a losing record in last 38 games, from second half of first season it goes downhill from there.
Will Slayton go to the vikings?
They're stacked at WR.
Schoen is a horrible evaluator and not only of talent but of his own talent in the building and how certain players keep the locker room together. Schoen got rid of everyone who kept players in line and thought if I pay this guy or that guy $30M he’ll be a leader and that hasn’t worked
Schoen was exposed on Hardnocks as being a goof ball, and being in over his head. Daboll looked stupid as well on the show. We have an issue with our scouts!
Issues from the owner on down to the parking lot attendants.
Let's trade for Mac jones and wait on Archie, Mac has a good cealing
Please and thank you. I want the whole regime gone, everyone that has that DJ era on them should just go.....
Justin can’t die while the Giants still suck. That would be more sad than when Super Man died.