Even if there’s little to no fear of death or permanent injuries, there’s still the trauma that comes from bodily harm. That’s what I like so much about shows like this.
To be honest I was expecting Jennifer to join in the mission with Mariner in this episode so she could work things out with Mariner by amending this misunderstanding back in season 3 and be just friends.
I've been rather irked by the fact that we've gotten 0 resolution for that entire thing. The two of them where cute together I want to see them make up because iI think it would of been good for Mariner to have jennifer in her corner during all this struggle to just get over her fears and rank up.
@@KenshiImmortalWolfAt the same time, someone who KNEW you on that level, who'd been woth you for that long, STILL choosing to believe the worst aspects of your character, and more than that, leaving you ALONE. Yeah, that's not an easy sting to heal from. I'd understand if they brought her back in, but if they don't, I'd say that's probably more realistic.
...god damn yeah, they are! I feel maybe having such a rigid and demoralizing power structure MIGHT be a problem, especially since Star Fleet isn't even technically a military, just a confusing cludge organization.
Yes… But notice it isn’t “aging” or “de-aging” them. It is time dilation and a bio-temporal flux. I think that means (and I’m guessing here) that you will always return to your base self. So he would likely just feel the pain of the leg breaking all over again as he left the age down area
@@centurionquincy3899 but when he left the time dilation his leg was still missing, if we go by your premise then it should of reattached and returned to its freshly broken state. With that knowledge we can assume quantum mechanics is applied, that means natural cause and effect no longer follow the normal flow of time and possible might not apply at all (to quote Cpt Janeway “in quantum mechanics you must remember effect can proceed cause”). So my working theory is that the chromotons were effecting the aging process and dragging him to the de-aging type should work. I am open to opposing theories and points of view so please feel free to share why I could be wrong, I’m interested
@@SlideIX With the idea of the leg not reforming into the freshly broken state, that brings up a new thought: It doesn’t change the BODY age but instead ages the CELLS. That would explain it. Which would mean the leg would age backwards, but it wouldn’t heal. He would essentially have a younger broken leg, instead of his current broken leg, just like how he just had an older broken leg.
@@centurionquincy3899But then his leg shouldn't have healed or been affected by the aging radiation. All of that was for the Rick and Morty joke of a leg falling off. And when he went back, he should be bleeding on the ground like crazy.
@@centurionquincy3899 cellular aging of biomass 🤔 that would make it so the body could become younger or rapidly age without it actually returning a persons body to an earlier form in linear time. Ok yes, that could explain why they can’t use the phenomenon to actually heal him fully if that is what’s going on. Shame neither of us can confirm our theories but it was fun thinking them up 🤷♂️
I really dislike how this show treats body injuries as no big deal just so they can have body horror jokes. Sorry but Trek characters would never destroy their limbs like that. And I've observed that it's always the men suffering the more painful body gag jokes. Why isnt it Mariner with the broken leg that falls off? It's always the guys
I mean...in fairness, Starfleet probably has psychological training to help cope with loss of limbs and such. Growing new ones is so routine as to be commonplace is probably why we don't see Star Trek going all cyberpunk except in extreme cases such as Geordi's VISOR. Nog lost a leg, and got a whole episode after that, not about the lost leg (heck the characters barely even treat that as a second thought) but about the trauma and shellshock of war. Honestly just doing routine nonsense on a ship can probably be insanely dangerous, so lost fingers or toes probably happens constantly, and it's most likely barely even a 15 minute visit to sickbay on most Starfleet vessels.
Too bad T'Lyn wasn't there... her Vulcan body would have aged, yes, but they live for centuries so she could have easily go and get those crystals.
Honestly, I wish she's in that episode, too.
She wouldve aged like fine wine.
😘👌
She already had a breakdown about her age, let the poor gal enjoy her youth.
She’s already 62 so just under 150 years on her lifespan.
Even if there’s little to no fear of death or permanent injuries, there’s still the trauma that comes from bodily harm. That’s what I like so much about shows like this.
I like how Mariner's hair goes white first. Neat bit of foreshadowing for the reveal in the next episode
What reveal?
@@carmenlynn5441 That she's at least half a decade older than the rest of her crewmates
To be honest I was expecting Jennifer to join in the mission with Mariner in this episode so she could work things out with Mariner by amending this misunderstanding back in season 3 and be just friends.
I've been rather irked by the fact that we've gotten 0 resolution for that entire thing. The two of them where cute together I want to see them make up because iI think it would of been good for Mariner to have jennifer in her corner during all this struggle to just get over her fears and rank up.
Oh my God, I thought I was the only one here who thinks that.
@@KenshiImmortalWolfAt the same time, someone who KNEW you on that level, who'd been woth you for that long, STILL choosing to believe the worst aspects of your character, and more than that, leaving you ALONE.
Yeah, that's not an easy sting to heal from. I'd understand if they brought her back in, but if they don't, I'd say that's probably more realistic.
@@JohnSmith-bn5miI mean she forgave freeman
@@tobsonasanya4765YEAH but she also openly apologized to Mariner and is...well, her MOM, we ain't seen NOTHING from Jen yet. And. It. TORTURES ME!
I like how she tells the real reason nightshift hates day shift.
So delta shift is the lower decks of the lower decks
...god damn yeah, they are! I feel maybe having such a rigid and demoralizing power structure MIGHT be a problem, especially since Star Fleet isn't even technically a military, just a confusing cludge organization.
Oh God, that is just wrong in so many level. That poor man
You said it, man🤢🤮
You and me both
I say he had it coming for stealing the lottery
Yikes, that is horrific! That poor guy.
If they had just set his leg before he did that it would have been fine lol
Its the beach that makes you old
His leg just plopped off.
🤢🤮
The cave that makes you old
Couldn’t they take him to the age down minerals to the point he has perfect health and a regrown leg then walk out of it.
Yes…
But notice it isn’t “aging” or “de-aging” them. It is time dilation and a bio-temporal flux.
I think that means (and I’m guessing here) that you will always return to your base self. So he would likely just feel the pain of the leg breaking all over again as he left the age down area
@@centurionquincy3899 but when he left the time dilation his leg was still missing, if we go by your premise then it should of reattached and returned to its freshly broken state. With that knowledge we can assume quantum mechanics is applied, that means natural cause and effect no longer follow the normal flow of time and possible might not apply at all (to quote Cpt Janeway “in quantum mechanics you must remember effect can proceed cause”).
So my working theory is that the chromotons were effecting the aging process and dragging him to the de-aging type should work.
I am open to opposing theories and points of view so please feel free to share why I could be wrong, I’m interested
@@SlideIX
With the idea of the leg not reforming into the freshly broken state, that brings up a new thought:
It doesn’t change the BODY age but instead ages the CELLS.
That would explain it.
Which would mean the leg would age backwards, but it wouldn’t heal.
He would essentially have a younger broken leg, instead of his current broken leg, just like how he just had an older broken leg.
@@centurionquincy3899But then his leg shouldn't have healed or been affected by the aging radiation.
All of that was for the Rick and Morty joke of a leg falling off.
And when he went back, he should be bleeding on the ground like crazy.
@@centurionquincy3899 cellular aging of biomass 🤔 that would make it so the body could become younger or rapidly age without it actually returning a persons body to an earlier form in linear time. Ok yes, that could explain why they can’t use the phenomenon to actually heal him fully if that is what’s going on. Shame neither of us can confirm our theories but it was fun thinking them up 🤷♂️
Nightmare fuel
A little inspiration from the M. Night Shyamalan movie „Old“ I guess?
I don’t wanna grow old…I like not having hip issues
This is why you set the break!
How am I now realizing that Alice Green plays someone from Delta Shift?😂
Who?
@@michaelwoolley7034 a grandma from Big City Green
at least we get to see Mariner getting old, lol.
1:03 ohh there go the hips!
0:34 i didn't know Alice Green was in this episode 😂
Gramma Alice
I hear it too.
Me 3
Everyone's talking about the broken leg, but did anyone else noting the early baldness?
"I'm only an asshole because I work just as hard as you, at all the same jobs, but nobody cares. Our shift sucks. Everyone is asleep."
She looks like her mom now lol
wow, a child look like their parent? who would know
Mariner and Karavitus still look cute despite being old
He should have crawled the whole way on all fours.
How did they not know that would happen? You have to reset the bone or it'll heal in the wrong position.
That sounds like alice green from big green city
Same voice actress (Atermis Pebdani)
That broken leg made me cringe ‼️
oh shit, they went to the cave that makes you old?
Omg lol 😂
Ship of Theseus, Crew of the Cerrtios, what's the difference?
MY leg😱
Eh, the lack of authority just means they develop their own group.
👍👍👍😎😎😎
Lower Decks is SO GRAPHIC😂😂😂THE WOUNDS LOOK ATROCIOUS.
I really dislike how this show treats body injuries as no big deal just so they can have body horror jokes. Sorry but Trek characters would never destroy their limbs like that.
And I've observed that it's always the men suffering the more painful body gag jokes. Why isnt it Mariner with the broken leg that falls off? It's always the guys
She got stabbed in the shoulder like four times in a different episode! Give her a break, it's not her turn as the Koala's punching bag. 😁
@@Brasswatchman - When has she lost a limb or had anything remotely close to the gore that was shown in this scene?
@@TheBigExclusive Give her time. If it can happen, Mariner's probably been through it or witnessed it at some point.
Well Star Trek IV had pills that made kidneys regrow, so regrowing a leg or two is no big deal.
I mean...in fairness, Starfleet probably has psychological training to help cope with loss of limbs and such. Growing new ones is so routine as to be commonplace is probably why we don't see Star Trek going all cyberpunk except in extreme cases such as Geordi's VISOR. Nog lost a leg, and got a whole episode after that, not about the lost leg (heck the characters barely even treat that as a second thought) but about the trauma and shellshock of war.
Honestly just doing routine nonsense on a ship can probably be insanely dangerous, so lost fingers or toes probably happens constantly, and it's most likely barely even a 15 minute visit to sickbay on most Starfleet vessels.