Hey everyone, thanks for all the support! Keep the comments coming we are reading them. But for now we are gunna head to bed, tomorrow we will start replying. Really appreciate all the positive comments, the feedback and constructive criticism. This is our first time doing something like this, and we are always Learning and wanting to improve and hone our skills. Thanks again for all the support! See you all in the morning!
Little advice, when breaching you have to scan both sides first and keep moving around the room but close to the wall, that way your team can spread and clear the room, the first 2 have to check left and right, the other two have to follow the first two while swiping the room
Great work. A little refining with the audio mainly and definitely better then the halo tv show. Could definitely kinda make it like forward unto dawn which is kinda the vibes im getting. Keep it up. Looks great for a pilot!
One of the best Halo Live Action Short Fan Film I've seen in months which means this has the potential of being a series. I don't have Patreon (for personal reasons) but I'll be happy to support in my own way. Great work and please keep it up because Halo fans know how to make a Halo film properly.
I have an ODST helmet on my 3D printer as we speak, but this short reminded me why I got into cosplay in the first place. One day I hope to have an ODST kit that would be screen worthy for stuff like this, and enough homies that want to do the same.
This looks fantastic! Always wanted a series focused on ODSTs dealing with Insurgents. (Only question is whether we'll see/hear about the Covenant) Little nitpick though, some of the voice acting sounded a tad robotic. Could probably do with some extra work. Other than that, this was perfect for a pilot episode, can't wait to see more.
I absolutely love this! The costumes are fantastic but why wouldn't they be, I've seen the dedication you've put into them over on Twitter. One piece of criticism is that the dialogue for the rebel facing the camera felt like it could've had more energy in it. What he was saying was perfect but how he was saying it felt kind of weak? I love the details of the gunshots, were those practical effects?
Yes, the gunshots were practical effects. We are aware of the weak points you mentioned however, we greatly appreciate the criticism . It will help with our QC going forward. Thank you for supporting and watching it though. We really wanted to give something cool to the Halo community.
I’d suggest color grading and filters with the cinematography, it’ll help with the realism of the costumes, props, and unite everything a little more visually. Not drastic changes but just subtle color grading :) can’t wait for more
Bro, this is AWSOME!!! PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF THE MASTER CHIEF KEEP MAKING THESE!!! We have had ZERO Halo STORY content for awhile, so it’s a breath of fresh air to see something new that looks THIS good. Keep up the great work guys!
Quite well done. 7.5/10 from me. The acting on some of the characters was a little weird, but for a first try on making a film thats to be expected. I really enjoyed it.
This is way better than the halo TV show! Great job. Could use a little bit of some radio static. Costumes are on point! Can’t wait to see the longer one! Good firing movement.
i always had a problem with odsts having fingerless gloves, everyone seems to forget that odst gear is not just clothes they are space suits, not like a spartan suit but like an advance astronaut combat suit, we seen this in halo 2 that odsts can fight in space, but since it only happen once in halo 2 everyone must have forgot since Halo 3 ODST done it 1 time with the gloves.
Fantastic work, not sure if you had the supply of real troops but great job with the stack and wedge formations to get on target. Executed well great music, great action, just work a bit more on the audio. Great job.
I brought this up to Moore awhile back because it is going to make the scenes more believable and live feeling, and that is military movements/actions and lingo. This is awesome and this kind of production is something to be proud of but you gotta work on LOOKING like ODST and I don't mean the props. Also, the music doesn't seem like it fits the atmosphere. The constant flagging, constant high ready/aiming, moving and clearing weirdly, using out of place military lingo, etc. I'm sure the props/costumes make it difficult to move and be aware of your surroundings, just gotta wear it enough that it feels like wearing a t-shirt and pants. Either way, awesome job and can't wait for more.
Great video, guys. Just as an idea, could you maybe do a video that’s just from the helmet cameras? It could be like what is shown in Halo CE when Master Chief watches the feed from PFC Jenkins’s helmet.
The concept is cool but it could use many improvements to look anywhere near professional. I personally find 1:15 to be the only cool shot in this short. The corny shots such as 4:44 when the troopers for some reason decide to shoot someone who is attempting to surrender, or the shot of them walking through a hallway to energetic rock music while nothing is happening, really dampen the believability of this entire situation. The intention and commitment needed to pursue any creative project however, is always admirable. Keep it up.
Been hyped for this. Got a small complaint/suggestion: You guys have to work on your movement, comms and flagging a little bit but all in all it's really good
Fantastic work guys, my biggest complaint is just that the lead insurrectionist needs to show more facial movement to portray passion about the cause, too stiff faced, other than that fantastic work, excited to see what happens next!
Complacency kills. Hard to warn everyone when you weren't prepared for a attack and were complacent. Innies are are great fighting force But most of them aren't professionals. Just civilians taking arms to fight for their freedom. That's how we have written the innies.
@@maxchadwick1052because they were made with the idea of the modern military, recent lore has changed the idea of outdated equipment, the communications is much more clear, even today's equipment doesn't have static in the way you might think.
I really like the camera work and lighting. You can tell a lot of effort was put into the environment as well. I like the multiple planets in the background when the “ferrets” were walking in the field. Can’t wait to see more!
Now I know this is a fan film and I can see how much effort you guys have put into this BUT I do have plenty of constructive criticism if you'll here it. Now I'm a perfectionist when it comes to the arts but it's only because I care for the arts and always want to make the best product. With that being said this will go into some HEAVY detail because of my perfectionism. BUT trust me when I say i DO NOT expect you to do all of this first try. This is a learning experience and that's how you end up making something award winning in the future. 1. I think you guys NEED to pick what kind of camera you want and stick to it, only sprinkling other camera angels at key moments. When you are jumping from a Third person to a First person to what I think was a mounted camera it can be hard to follow the story. Hell integrate the camera angles into the story. Think to yourself: as the audience where would they be following this story. Only from the ODSTs perspective? Only from the Insurrectionist perspective? Or the split view? Or do we want to do a fake out where we were following one side and the other side story gets told later? Anything but going from every camera type and GET CREATIVE with those camera angles! 2. I am interested to here why there is no color grading. Color grading is going to be essential in selling the tone of the film. Look at the ODST trailers from Bungie, both live action and 3D animated they have close to the same color tone. That Greyness with a bit of color really sells the tone of sadness and misery. 3. The actors NEED NEED NEED to step it up. I was taken out every time they delivered their lines. Now I myself am an actor and I get it. Memorizing lines and selling that you are this character is stupid difficult especially in the beginning of ones career. I KNOW THEY CAN DO IT THOUGH, its just bringing a bit more emotion, emotional undertones, and making the dialogue more natural. This ODST team in terms of story seemed like they were just put together and this is their first mission with each other due to the acting. At the beginning they didn't feel like they were moving as a unit, more like moving because they were told to. I think if you look into they way actual soldiers move in a unit you'll see what I mean. A soldier should NEVER have their gun down in enemy territory, in Close Quarters each soldier checks every corner unless they are designated to check specifics ones when clearing a room (Ex: 2:57 only the first ODST looks to his right and none of the other ones do. Every ODST should have looked that way to clear that corner because at ANY point some one could come that way if it's a door or hallway. Even if it's just a corner they should be clearing it). Now if the point in the story was that these ODSTs are just getting to know each other then the actors need to act accordingly and that needs to be established. 4. The dialogue as written seems a bit rough and choppy as well. When the ODST jokes about the guy "pissing his pants" there needed to be bounce back from another member of the team. The joke fell completely flat because there was no prior set up for something like a bet and there was no pay off from another character laughing or getting in on the bet. This goes the same for the Insurrection soldiers. When the one is handed the canteen of unknown liquid I like the cough he does but when he just says he is going to "Turn in" it felt disconnected and moving too fast. Maybe he should have made a joke about how "That shit was so strong I think IT WILL knock me out (Referencing the sleeping they were just talking about). Damn, I'm gonna turn in *Walks away continuing to cough*" 5. I am sure it was difficult on you guys to record audio and I am not surprised by that due to audio being a pain in general. Music was perfect in terms of volume but the ODSTs and other soldiers audio need to be either cleaned up or ADR in order to get that sense of realness. They seemed like they were recorded on set with a Blue Snowball or something equivalent due to the voices sounding too sharp, like the mic quality was picking up all sound and their voices reverberate off of what are clearly walls. There are also ways of covering up some rough parts with things like static microphone sounds. 6. I could get into things like the graphics/text and how they should be less Future Sci-Fi and more Military Sci-fi. Halo does have a VERY specific esthetic when it comes to those things. But at this point that is just nit picking. Now with ALL of that said I am still insanely proud of you guys for making it this far because I know how difficult getting all this done is. Just doing this shows more passion and care than the Halo show could ever strive for. Love the costume and set design! If I can help in anyway I would hop on the project in a heartbeat. I am doing an Audio Series called Spartan Stories here on TH-cam and I do EVERYTHING for that project. Writing, sound editing, video editing, Voice acting, Marketing, all of it. I have experience in Studio One, Photoshop, Premiere Pro, After Effects, Audition, DaVinci Resolve, and plenty of practical skills as well. Let me know if I can do anything for you guys!
@isaacadams8014 it is very valid feedback. We want to make the best Halo Story we can. And take all the feedback seriously. This is more then a passion project for us. We really want to make something legendary for the fans.
Director here. Thanks for the feedback, I did the editing, camera work, and directing. This was all shot on the FX3, and is in fact my first short, and second video I’ve ever made. We have lined a great group of people for the big deal as this is simply a pilot. As far as color grading goes, I personally feel most low budget sci-fis hide behind color grading. I personally enjoy the compiler colors of older films or new films that are emulating old films. That being said I’m not a colorist and we going to have a colorist for the bigger film Most of our issues here come down to budget, and training. We are budgeting for acting classes, as no one in the pilot is an actor we have mostly learned everything when we started this project aside from the prop department. Hope some of this makes sense We will take some of your feedback into the big film, some of it we are absolutely aware of and will do a Q&A Also this has been completely funded out of pocket from camera gear to props
@@JwallsmediaI think the most impressive thing so far is that you actually put all this together which is no easy feat. With a decent amount of practice the acting can be excellent. Remember that the characters are human beings and so they should respond to each other fluidly. A bit of improve might go a long way into developing the actors abilities and natural dynamics. As far as military tactics go, well everything you need to know is right here on TH-cam so have a look for some good videos on CQB and general infantry tactics and try to implement these concepts into the way the characters move. That also goes for the various opfor that will be encountered. Dumb enemies do not a engender a sense of danger and high stakes, as a dynamic entry like we see depicted would bring about. Remember again all the characters are human beings, the have all their senses, they have emotions, adrenaline will be high in this situation so try to bring that into the front. All and all great effort, can’t wait to see how it develops.
Always check both corners on the breach, and a little more violence of action from the soldiers moving through and clearing. Something I learned is that if a Spec Ops team has history, they can move through with minimal speech. If you let their moments and actions speak, with subtle words here and there, that could really help to establish them as a hardened spec ops team with a background working together. Othewrwise, I absolutely loved this guys, seriously wtf BRAVO !!! For reference I’d look at the show Seal Team/the movie 13Hours (tactics and movement) and the movie Heat (specifically the shootout scene) Again, just some constructive criticism bc I absolutely loved this and wanna see it flourish, y’all are killing it!
Something I'll caveat off of this, dispersion across a river fording site needs to be bigger (have more distance between individuals), as well as target discretion, yes in theory these personnel at this area are hostile, but the woman w/ a wrench was a no shoot scenario, and for the ODST's they may be the SF dudes of the UNSC but they're still trained/taught wrong from right. As well as clearing corners in every room, not just the breach. This was good though! Some extra training for the men and women wearing the suits w/ firearms and some basic fundamentals/tactics would go a long way!
Great job on the Pilot! It’s an impressive feat to make this and there are so many things to say. I have some thoughts to share: 1: The costume work is amazing! I saw the promotional material on your TikTok a while back and was blown away with how good it was. Great job with the non-ODST characters as well. 2: I love the camera work! I feel like there are some shots that go on a bit too long, like crossing the creek, especially when we haven’t gotten to know the characters yet. But the mix between first person and traditional shots is handled very well. 3: Scripting something like this is hard; and I feel like the story didn’t do a good job introducing us to the ODSTs that we will presumably be following. The first lines that a character speaks should tell you everything about them, and I feel like I know more about Reg and the security guard than our protagonists. Then again, this could be the “cold open” before we fully meet the characters, so forgive me if that’s the case. 4: Acting. This is the hardest part to critique, especially as a fan production. I just couldn’t buy Buford’s monologue as he spoke into the camera, and that has to do with movement. He sways too much and it distracts from the scene. That’s not to say I didn’t like it, because I loved it! I can tell how much effort and love was put into this project. I can tell how the director care about every shot they put on screen. I can see the care put into all 9 of the costumes, even if they appear for less than a second. I can see a group of friends writing a script and making that dream come true. Coming together and filming it, memorizing lines and performing on the day. Your team has a bright future, I’m so excited for the next video! Congratulations, November Black Productions, you did it.
Tip for his acting. He needs to find real emotion for it. He needs to move his eye brows. Have him frown. Have him spit the words out. Not just yell. In other words, this is an emotionally charged monologue He has and he needs to grab ahold of that emotion better.
I love the outfits and the props, the sharkface on the assault rifle added some cool bits of character personalization. Im excited to see if there's more fun details like that. The audio could use some polish but this is a good start and I'm excited to see what you all have created! Also if you guys are planning on filming like a second season and are in need of more bodies for filming, I've got a odst outfit that could make for a sort of insurrectionist. I would be happy to help, depending on where and when you guys would be filming.
Et in Arcadia ego. Even in the rim of the galaxy, this outer haven, hell jumpers must abide. Oni one power to rule all, Oni one sovereign, only one cabal. Seriously though. This was a real treat. Small budget or not, you can see a real consideration and passion for less explored parts of the Halo franchise here. No pushed agenda, no appeal to a broader audience, or self inserted (almost fan-fiction like) material we saw in the Halo show. A show might I add, with a ten million dollar episode budget, and backing by a century old production company. Inspirational ma dudes and dudettes! I tip my hat to y’all.
Holy sh*t is this a sequel to Landfall? Cause my god this is some top notch stuff. stumbled on you guys a few months ago and man it was worth the wait. please plllllease continue this.
I had some issues with the movement and muzzle direction. If you want to add more realism then try not to let muzzles cross teammates. The breach effect could be better, but understandable for the budget. The props are pretty good. You can also tell they're kinda mindlessly sweeping on that breach and that movement. Going forward you can say it's one of their first missions together. You can already tell they're green. Recommendations going forward: Take that team airsofting a few times at a cqb field. The two ways of playing are speed and stealth. They're lacking in both. Hand signals when understood at a cqb field are great due to the other team frequently being in hearing range. If they get taught that, then it's just watching angles and moving fast when it's time to move. For the marches outdoors, typically you just look with your head and eyes, keeping your weapon lowered. If you get shot at, weapon snaps up into firing position. If you see a potential baddie in the distance, anyone with a scope or any magnified optics checks it out. In the case of this team, it's the trooper with the sharpshooter optical package. They wouldn't respon instantly. Maybe a couple seconds of looking before saying if it is or isn't, or if their optics aren't good enough to tell at that range. In general that team moves like there's no weight to what's going on. No stakes. Which isn't really how the best fighters do it. The best fighters are cautious, exact, and professional. They have a general idea of when they're safe or not, and know when it's time to get fast and violent. Since this is the start, and you've invested in the props, and everything I've mentioned is learned behavior. You have a lot of room for improvement. But it's so doable that I'll be sticking around to see it
im sure others have already offered their criticism so i'll try and stick to a few positives I had. I LOVED the props, ESPECIALLY the weird CE door-opener device. The ODST suits, weapons, and gear all look like they might have dropped out of Halo: Landfall. And the music? I was NOT expecting to get with it, but I was surprised. Really big props to Grant and Caleb!!! ALSO really big thanks to Anthony Moore, who I can only assume thought of the idea to interject a teaser into popular Halo creators' social posts. Such a weird 4th wall breaking idea, but it INSTANTLY got me interested in the project. With a higher budget and some strong actors, this could be a well deserved addition to Halo's live action projects. CONGRATS TEAM
Seriously, the only complaint I have was with the breaching effect when they entered the broadcasting room, otherwise this Pilot is freaking phenomenal, great work! Can't wait for the rest to be released!
Tbh the only thing you could do better from such a great short would be footwork. For extremely trained special forces, the ODSTs felt as if they were just talking a stroll (especially at 4:07). Add to that shots too long and too wide (which takes away the intensity of trained killers moving in on their prey) plus music with a slow tempo and it feels kind of awkward... Otherwise, absolutely great. Loved the opening shots. Can't wait to see where this goes. 👀
Please tell me there’s gonna be more. I’m hooked into the story. The only criticism I have is it looked like the frame dropped for whatever reason after the Innie gave the cantina back to his comrade. And then it went back to normal afterwards. Otherwise fantastic film so far!
Amazing work. If I might make 1 small critique, just a small detail I noticed that might make the ODSTs feel just that tiny bit more professional, I noticed they were flagging their squad mates an awful lot during this (if you don't know flagging is when you point a gun at someone you don't intend to shoot, loaded or not) for example when they were crossing the stream in the beginning all but the last man in line had their guns pointed forwards, meaning they were pointing at the person in front of them. To avoid flagging I'd suggest having the point man's weapon trained forwards with everyone behind him (except for the last man in the column) pointing their weapons to the right and left flanks (ideally alternating with each person watching the opposite direction of the person in front of them) and then having the man at the rear watching out behind them. Other than that this looks amazing👍
Aside from the acting (which can be fixed) you guys showed a lot of love and attention to detail for this project. Seeing as how this is only the pilot I see a ton of potential
This is pretty good but theres a few things that hold it back. I'd say the editing in terms of colour grading needs a lot of improvemnet. The action in terms of ODSTs clearing a building should be a lot faster, theyre special forces, if you watch footage of special forces clearing buildings its a lot quicker and smoother, obvioulsy something that comes from practice. I do think shot selection could also be better, like when they breach the room and take down the dude recording it comes off as a bit cringy more than cool because of the comical cut to him on the ground, i think it would be better to have it be one take from the outside in showing them disabling and cuffing him, wouldve been a little more intense and interesting to watch. Audio could have more radio static when the troops talk, better weapon sound effects and in general more background ambience to add to the creepiness. This was a critical comment but i still enjoyed this a lot!
Awesome stuff! The props and sets look amazing, I love the attention to detail. My only critique would be I think the tone would benefit from some color-grading, the world feels a bit too "warm" for halo iykwim. I hope you are also considering some POV shots because that would be sick. Love it and looking forward to more!
This looks sick so far, I only really have two criticisms which are that the acting needs a lil bit of work in some places and as someone else pointed out the audio is a bit too clear, other than that the props and story y’all are setting up seems cool as hell!
Since it’s already been touched upon by you and someone else I’ll add my last bit of constructive criticism, the stacking, breaching and room clearing was superb but it would’ve been nice to have seen the lcd screen on the door opener for more depth and my only other nitpicks would be seeing an MP9 in 2552 in one of the URF soldiers hands and the bit with the comms unit on one of the ODSTs helmets being used seemed a tab bit awkward. Apart from that this is a true halo TV series and what 343 should’ve given us long ago. I can see just how much work has gone into making those suits and it seems to really show
Absolutely fantastic work you guys! Some beautiful cinematography here, especially in that opening scene with all the ODSTs walking through the field *mwah* just sublime! Production and costume design absolutely on point too, you guys nailed it there. Specifically really like the insurrectionists' costumes and makeup work to make them look dirty and rugged. The ODST suits themselves too look awesome! Each looking believably worn and having their specific bits to personalize from each other, hope to see that further developed in future! Those bullet impacts effects too are just FANTASTIC!!! Sure paid off to do that practically selling that IMPACT and the performances too! There seemed to be a bit of a frame rate issue however around the 2:24 mark, with the dialogue audio also being a bit unclear with some sound design choices that distracts a bit from the exchange like that of the random loud cracking. Also gotta say, would have been such a CLEAN shot if the focus-pull at 4:29 was done quicker and held on that poster, would've made for an awesome sequence but that's just a minor nitpick from me! There's also some parts in the editing that I think could've been fine-tuned a little bit to sell the pacing. But apart from that, the editing as a whole is really nice and I LOVE the cutting between the ODST group and the Propaganda transmission, helps break up the action and adds a lot more to the tension and world-building. You guys have done a FANTASTIC job here and I can't wait to see what y'all come out with next!
Super cool. This is what I think the community has been waiting on. Im super impressed. The dialog, the movements, the camera shots, costumes, the narrative. The bullet effects were dope as hell. B+ If you guys wanted some kind of tangible feed back read more please. The lighting was either perfect or too bright. Like the insurrectionist in the beginning were under total flood light; and perhaps dimmer lights resembling moon light, a static orange light, and then the camp fire light would have set the mood of infiltration under darkness more. Like the shot of the ODSTs coming into the compound around the corner just after taking the insurrectionist out, that shot was sick as hell and them appearing out of no where shows their tactical prowess. But it was again bright. And then the music is so right for ODSTs but I think this scene would have done better with some more a slow and methodical riff that built up to a crescendo of the breach. I think Sicario (2015) Night Approach scene has some elements of what I've critiqued here. Solid work you guys, this is gonna be big.
It’s more than great, closest thing we have to what we want but imagine an actual big budget man, would be a killer show and can lead up to other stories such as reach, noble 6, blue team, etc.. rather than the crap we got a while back.
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The opening esthetic is better than anything on S1 of Halo show, keep at it❤
Hey everyone, thanks for all the support! Keep the comments coming we are reading them. But for now we are gunna head to bed, tomorrow we will start replying. Really appreciate all the positive comments, the feedback and constructive criticism. This is our first time doing something like this, and we are always Learning and wanting to improve and hone our skills.
Thanks again for all the support! See you all in the morning!
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Little advice, when breaching you have to scan both sides first and keep moving around the room but close to the wall, that way your team can spread and clear the room, the first 2 have to check left and right, the other two have to follow the first two while swiping the room
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Great work. A little refining with the audio mainly and definitely better then the halo tv show. Could definitely kinda make it like forward unto dawn which is kinda the vibes im getting. Keep it up. Looks great for a pilot!
Thank you for the feedback!
Wonderful UNSC psiop. Solidarity with freedom fighters and freedom from the UEG!
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One of the best Halo Live Action Short Fan Film I've seen in months which means this has the potential of being a series.
I don't have Patreon (for personal reasons) but I'll be happy to support in my own way.
Great work and please keep it up because Halo fans know how to make a Halo film properly.
They look like they have actual training I love it
I have an ODST helmet on my 3D printer as we speak, but this short reminded me why I got into cosplay in the first place. One day I hope to have an ODST kit that would be screen worthy for stuff like this, and enough homies that want to do the same.
This looks fantastic! Always wanted a series focused on ODSTs dealing with Insurgents. (Only question is whether we'll see/hear about the Covenant)
Little nitpick though, some of the voice acting sounded a tad robotic. Could probably do with some extra work. Other than that, this was perfect for a pilot episode, can't wait to see more.
I absolutely love this! The costumes are fantastic but why wouldn't they be, I've seen the dedication you've put into them over on Twitter.
One piece of criticism is that the dialogue for the rebel facing the camera felt like it could've had more energy in it. What he was saying was perfect but how he was saying it felt kind of weak?
I love the details of the gunshots, were those practical effects?
Yes, the gunshots were practical effects. We are aware of the weak points you mentioned however, we greatly appreciate the criticism . It will help with our QC going forward. Thank you for supporting and watching it though. We really wanted to give something cool to the Halo community.
Only 1k views? This is some quality stuff
Yep this is awesome no further discussion needed
7 minutes and already 20 times better than the paramount tv series… these guys deserve 10 million views on this
I’d suggest color grading and filters with the cinematography, it’ll help with the realism of the costumes, props, and unite everything a little more visually. Not drastic changes but just subtle color grading :) can’t wait for more
Bro, this is AWSOME!!!
PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF THE MASTER CHIEF KEEP MAKING THESE!!!
We have had ZERO Halo STORY content for awhile, so it’s a breath of fresh air to see something new that looks THIS good.
Keep up the great work guys!
Ok now this is top tier!
Good first drop! Excited to see what you guys do with the coming projects!
Quite well done. 7.5/10 from me. The acting on some of the characters was a little weird, but for a first try on making a film thats to be expected. I really enjoyed it.
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This is way better than the halo TV show! Great job. Could use a little bit of some radio static. Costumes are on point! Can’t wait to see the longer one! Good firing movement.
That was great. Well done! Can't wait for more!
Best show I’ve watched all week
what a badass start, can’t wait to see more helljumpers in action 💯💯💯
i always had a problem with odsts having fingerless gloves, everyone seems to forget that odst gear is not just clothes they are space suits, not like a spartan suit but like an advance astronaut combat suit, we seen this in halo 2 that odsts can fight in space, but since it only happen once in halo 2 everyone must have forgot since Halo 3 ODST done it 1 time with the gloves.
Mission dictates gear.
@@boom_stick_boi4893that's what I was gonna say
Fantastic work, not sure if you had the supply of real troops but great job with the stack and wedge formations to get on target. Executed well great music, great action, just work a bit more on the audio. Great job.
This was awesome! Would love a character feature on each of the squad and main players.
I brought this up to Moore awhile back because it is going to make the scenes more believable and live feeling, and that is military movements/actions and lingo. This is awesome and this kind of production is something to be proud of but you gotta work on LOOKING like ODST and I don't mean the props. Also, the music doesn't seem like it fits the atmosphere.
The constant flagging, constant high ready/aiming, moving and clearing weirdly, using out of place military lingo, etc. I'm sure the props/costumes make it difficult to move and be aware of your surroundings, just gotta wear it enough that it feels like wearing a t-shirt and pants.
Either way, awesome job and can't wait for more.
Great video, guys. Just as an idea, could you maybe do a video that’s just from the helmet cameras? It could be like what is shown in Halo CE when Master Chief watches the feed from PFC Jenkins’s helmet.
Love the small talk between the crew. Reminds me of odst.
Fantastic! What a great film!
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I support this 100%!
rebels are not explored so much in the universe as they should be.
We agree and going to change that!
Awesome
This is fire
More likes than views? I like it 😎
The concept is cool but it could use many improvements to look anywhere near professional.
I personally find 1:15 to be the only cool shot in this short.
The corny shots such as 4:44 when the troopers for some reason decide to shoot someone who is attempting to surrender, or the shot of them walking through a hallway to energetic rock music while nothing is happening, really dampen the believability of this entire situation.
The intention and commitment needed to pursue any creative project however, is always admirable. Keep it up.
Been hyped for this.
Got a small complaint/suggestion:
You guys have to work on your movement, comms and flagging a little bit but all in all it's really good
This is better than the tv show.
It’s gonna get better too 😎
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Very cool! Definitely wanna see more!
Love it! ❤
Fantastic work guys, my biggest complaint is just that the lead insurrectionist needs to show more facial movement to portray passion about the cause, too stiff faced, other than that fantastic work, excited to see what happens next!
Pretty good, but I feel bad for the girl who tried surrendering
ONI said that never happened
I love it! 🎉
I also love how this is still against the insurrectionist era before the Covenant comes in
6:03 If the insurgents were streaming their rally chat could have told them the ODST were about to breach.
Complacency kills. Hard to warn everyone when you weren't prepared for a attack and were complacent. Innies are are great fighting force
But most of them aren't professionals. Just civilians taking arms to fight for their freedom.
That's how we have written the innies.
The halo game/movie/tv show i didnt know i needed. Thank you for this brilliant 8 min of entertainment! hopefully you got more in the pipeline.
Hell yeah
Now this is the Halo TV show we need. Phenomenal work!
O hell nah 💀
@@XD-zg1crit’s fan made bruh they don’t have millions to spend
Really great pilot, I only have one complaint and that is that the audio sounds too clear, no radio static, etc. love the props, keep it up
Radio static? In 2525? 🤔
@HayVolstar to be fair foehammer and the marines in the games had radio effects on their dialogue
It's in the future, what are you on about? Delusional.
Radio fx just sound cooler lol
@@maxchadwick1052because they were made with the idea of the modern military, recent lore has changed the idea of outdated equipment, the communications is much more clear, even today's equipment doesn't have static in the way you might think.
I really like the camera work and lighting. You can tell a lot of effort was put into the environment as well. I like the multiple planets in the background when the “ferrets” were walking in the field. Can’t wait to see more!
I agree, the tiny yet effective details like the planets are what make this film among the best of the best!
Now I know this is a fan film and I can see how much effort you guys have put into this BUT I do have plenty of constructive criticism if you'll here it. Now I'm a perfectionist when it comes to the arts but it's only because I care for the arts and always want to make the best product. With that being said this will go into some HEAVY detail because of my perfectionism. BUT trust me when I say i DO NOT expect you to do all of this first try. This is a learning experience and that's how you end up making something award winning in the future.
1. I think you guys NEED to pick what kind of camera you want and stick to it, only sprinkling other camera angels at key moments. When you are jumping from a Third person to a First person to what I think was a mounted camera it can be hard to follow the story. Hell integrate the camera angles into the story. Think to yourself: as the audience where would they be following this story. Only from the ODSTs perspective? Only from the Insurrectionist perspective? Or the split view? Or do we want to do a fake out where we were following one side and the other side story gets told later? Anything but going from every camera type and GET CREATIVE with those camera angles!
2. I am interested to here why there is no color grading. Color grading is going to be essential in selling the tone of the film. Look at the ODST trailers from Bungie, both live action and 3D animated they have close to the same color tone. That Greyness with a bit of color really sells the tone of sadness and misery.
3. The actors NEED NEED NEED to step it up. I was taken out every time they delivered their lines. Now I myself am an actor and I get it. Memorizing lines and selling that you are this character is stupid difficult especially in the beginning of ones career. I KNOW THEY CAN DO IT THOUGH, its just bringing a bit more emotion, emotional undertones, and making the dialogue more natural. This ODST team in terms of story seemed like they were just put together and this is their first mission with each other due to the acting. At the beginning they didn't feel like they were moving as a unit, more like moving because they were told to. I think if you look into they way actual soldiers move in a unit you'll see what I mean. A soldier should NEVER have their gun down in enemy territory, in Close Quarters each soldier checks every corner unless they are designated to check specifics ones when clearing a room (Ex: 2:57 only the first ODST looks to his right and none of the other ones do. Every ODST should have looked that way to clear that corner because at ANY point some one could come that way if it's a door or hallway. Even if it's just a corner they should be clearing it). Now if the point in the story was that these ODSTs are just getting to know each other then the actors need to act accordingly and that needs to be established.
4. The dialogue as written seems a bit rough and choppy as well. When the ODST jokes about the guy "pissing his pants" there needed to be bounce back from another member of the team. The joke fell completely flat because there was no prior set up for something like a bet and there was no pay off from another character laughing or getting in on the bet. This goes the same for the Insurrection soldiers. When the one is handed the canteen of unknown liquid I like the cough he does but when he just says he is going to "Turn in" it felt disconnected and moving too fast. Maybe he should have made a joke about how "That shit was so strong I think IT WILL knock me out (Referencing the sleeping they were just talking about). Damn, I'm gonna turn in *Walks away continuing to cough*"
5. I am sure it was difficult on you guys to record audio and I am not surprised by that due to audio being a pain in general. Music was perfect in terms of volume but the ODSTs and other soldiers audio need to be either cleaned up or ADR in order to get that sense of realness. They seemed like they were recorded on set with a Blue Snowball or something equivalent due to the voices sounding too sharp, like the mic quality was picking up all sound and their voices reverberate off of what are clearly walls. There are also ways of covering up some rough parts with things like static microphone sounds.
6. I could get into things like the graphics/text and how they should be less Future Sci-Fi and more Military Sci-fi. Halo does have a VERY specific esthetic when it comes to those things. But at this point that is just nit picking.
Now with ALL of that said I am still insanely proud of you guys for making it this far because I know how difficult getting all this done is. Just doing this shows more passion and care than the Halo show could ever strive for. Love the costume and set design!
If I can help in anyway I would hop on the project in a heartbeat. I am doing an Audio Series called Spartan Stories here on TH-cam and I do EVERYTHING for that project. Writing, sound editing, video editing, Voice acting, Marketing, all of it. I have experience in Studio One, Photoshop, Premiere Pro, After Effects, Audition, DaVinci Resolve, and plenty of practical skills as well. Let me know if I can do anything for you guys!
Shoot us an email - November.Black.Productions@gmail.com
I completely agree, although I am not at all a camera man or anything but I want the best out of this as well. Keep it up guys!
@isaacadams8014 it is very valid feedback. We want to make the best Halo Story we can. And take all the feedback seriously. This is more then a passion project for us. We really want to make something legendary for the fans.
Director here.
Thanks for the feedback, I did the editing, camera work, and directing. This was all shot on the FX3, and is in fact my first short, and second video I’ve ever made. We have lined a great group of people for the big deal as this is simply a pilot.
As far as color grading goes, I personally feel most low budget sci-fis hide behind color grading. I personally enjoy the compiler colors of older films or new films that are emulating old films. That being said I’m not a colorist and we going to have a colorist for the bigger film
Most of our issues here come down to budget, and training. We are budgeting for acting classes, as no one in the pilot is an actor we have mostly learned everything when we started this project aside from the prop department.
Hope some of this makes sense
We will take some of your feedback into the big film, some of it we are absolutely aware of and will do a Q&A
Also this has been completely funded out of pocket from camera gear to props
@@JwallsmediaI think the most impressive thing so far is that you actually put all this together which is no easy feat.
With a decent amount of practice the acting can be excellent. Remember that the characters are human beings and so they should respond to each other fluidly. A bit of improve might go a long way into developing the actors abilities and natural dynamics. As far as military tactics go, well everything you need to know is right here on TH-cam so have a look for some good videos on CQB and general infantry tactics and try to implement these concepts into the way the characters move. That also goes for the various opfor that will be encountered. Dumb enemies do not a engender a sense of danger and high stakes, as a dynamic entry like we see depicted would bring about. Remember again all the characters are human beings, the have all their senses, they have emotions, adrenaline will be high in this situation so try to bring that into the front.
All and all great effort, can’t wait to see how it develops.
343 may have forgotten how much the fans love ODSTs but we haven’t! Thank you from one die hard fan to another👍🏽
When they said they were gonna do battle royal i always thought it be cool for them to have odst drops for game start
Always check both corners on the breach, and a little more violence of action from the soldiers moving through and clearing. Something I learned is that if a Spec Ops team has history, they can move through with minimal speech. If you let their moments and actions speak, with subtle words here and there, that could really help to establish them as a hardened spec ops team with a background working together. Othewrwise, I absolutely loved this guys, seriously wtf BRAVO !!! For reference I’d look at the show Seal Team/the movie 13Hours (tactics and movement) and the movie Heat (specifically the shootout scene) Again, just some constructive criticism bc I absolutely loved this and wanna see it flourish, y’all are killing it!
Something I'll caveat off of this, dispersion across a river fording site needs to be bigger (have more distance between individuals), as well as target discretion, yes in theory these personnel at this area are hostile, but the woman w/ a wrench was a no shoot scenario, and for the ODST's they may be the SF dudes of the UNSC but they're still trained/taught wrong from right. As well as clearing corners in every room, not just the breach. This was good though! Some extra training for the men and women wearing the suits w/ firearms and some basic fundamentals/tactics would go a long way!
Great job on the Pilot! It’s an impressive feat to make this and there are so many things to say. I have some thoughts to share:
1: The costume work is amazing! I saw the promotional material on your TikTok a while back and was blown away with how good it was. Great job with the non-ODST characters as well.
2: I love the camera work! I feel like there are some shots that go on a bit too long, like crossing the creek, especially when we haven’t gotten to know the characters yet. But the mix between first person and traditional shots is handled very well.
3: Scripting something like this is hard; and I feel like the story didn’t do a good job introducing us to the ODSTs that we will presumably be following. The first lines that a character speaks should tell you everything about them, and I feel like I know more about Reg and the security guard than our protagonists. Then again, this could be the “cold open” before we fully meet the characters, so forgive me if that’s the case.
4: Acting. This is the hardest part to critique, especially as a fan production. I just couldn’t buy Buford’s monologue as he spoke into the camera, and that has to do with movement. He sways too much and it distracts from the scene.
That’s not to say I didn’t like it, because I loved it! I can tell how much effort and love was put into this project. I can tell how the director care about every shot they put on screen. I can see the care put into all 9 of the costumes, even if they appear for less than a second. I can see a group of friends writing a script and making that dream come true. Coming together and filming it, memorizing lines and performing on the day. Your team has a bright future, I’m so excited for the next video! Congratulations, November Black Productions, you did it.
Thank you for the feedback!
Tip for his acting. He needs to find real emotion for it. He needs to move his eye brows. Have him frown. Have him spit the words out. Not just yell.
In other words, this is an emotionally charged monologue He has and he needs to grab ahold of that emotion better.
Very nice! Acting could use some work but otherwise it's gold
You know the music- it’s time to dance!
Give them more money, we need more hahha, dam that was slick
I love the outfits and the props, the sharkface on the assault rifle added some cool bits of character personalization. Im excited to see if there's more fun details like that. The audio could use some polish but this is a good start and I'm excited to see what you all have created! Also if you guys are planning on filming like a second season and are in need of more bodies for filming, I've got a odst outfit that could make for a sort of insurrectionist. I would be happy to help, depending on where and when you guys would be filming.
Solid start, pretty excited to see where the story goes
Et in Arcadia ego.
Even in the rim of the galaxy, this outer haven, hell jumpers must abide. Oni one power to rule all, Oni one sovereign, only one cabal.
Seriously though. This was a real treat. Small budget or not, you can see a real consideration and passion for less explored parts of the Halo franchise here.
No pushed agenda, no appeal to a broader audience, or self inserted (almost fan-fiction like) material we saw in the Halo show. A show might I add, with a ten million dollar episode budget, and backing by a century old production company. Inspirational ma dudes and dudettes!
I tip my hat to y’all.
Holy sh*t is this a sequel to Landfall? Cause my god this is some top notch stuff. stumbled on you guys a few months ago and man it was worth the wait. please plllllease continue this.
I had some issues with the movement and muzzle direction. If you want to add more realism then try not to let muzzles cross teammates. The breach effect could be better, but understandable for the budget. The props are pretty good. You can also tell they're kinda mindlessly sweeping on that breach and that movement. Going forward you can say it's one of their first missions together. You can already tell they're green.
Recommendations going forward: Take that team airsofting a few times at a cqb field. The two ways of playing are speed and stealth. They're lacking in both. Hand signals when understood at a cqb field are great due to the other team frequently being in hearing range. If they get taught that, then it's just watching angles and moving fast when it's time to move.
For the marches outdoors, typically you just look with your head and eyes, keeping your weapon lowered. If you get shot at, weapon snaps up into firing position. If you see a potential baddie in the distance, anyone with a scope or any magnified optics checks it out. In the case of this team, it's the trooper with the sharpshooter optical package. They wouldn't respon instantly. Maybe a couple seconds of looking before saying if it is or isn't, or if their optics aren't good enough to tell at that range.
In general that team moves like there's no weight to what's going on. No stakes. Which isn't really how the best fighters do it. The best fighters are cautious, exact, and professional. They have a general idea of when they're safe or not, and know when it's time to get fast and violent.
Since this is the start, and you've invested in the props, and everything I've mentioned is learned behavior. You have a lot of room for improvement. But it's so doable that I'll be sticking around to see it
You couldn’t really tell, but her weapon was oriented towards the corner and not at her teamates
im sure others have already offered their criticism so i'll try and stick to a few positives I had. I LOVED the props, ESPECIALLY the weird CE door-opener device. The ODST suits, weapons, and gear all look like they might have dropped out of Halo: Landfall. And the music? I was NOT expecting to get with it, but I was surprised. Really big props to Grant and Caleb!!!
ALSO really big thanks to Anthony Moore, who I can only assume thought of the idea to interject a teaser into popular Halo creators' social posts. Such a weird 4th wall breaking idea, but it INSTANTLY got me interested in the project. With a higher budget and some strong actors, this could be a well deserved addition to Halo's live action projects.
CONGRATS TEAM
Here we go gang! Hold on tight!
Seriously, the only complaint I have was with the breaching effect when they entered the broadcasting room, otherwise this Pilot is freaking phenomenal, great work! Can't wait for the rest to be released!
Tbh the only thing you could do better from such a great short would be footwork. For extremely trained special forces, the ODSTs felt as if they were just talking a stroll (especially at 4:07). Add to that shots too long and too wide (which takes away the intensity of trained killers moving in on their prey) plus music with a slow tempo and it feels kind of awkward...
Otherwise, absolutely great. Loved the opening shots. Can't wait to see where this goes. 👀
Please tell me there’s gonna be more. I’m hooked into the story. The only criticism I have is it looked like the frame dropped for whatever reason after the Innie gave the cantina back to his comrade. And then it went back to normal afterwards. Otherwise fantastic film so far!
Yes. Part 2 is coming before January.
Let’s go y’all did an amazing job keep up momentum we need this
Thank you!
Amazing work. If I might make 1 small critique, just a small detail I noticed that might make the ODSTs feel just that tiny bit more professional, I noticed they were flagging their squad mates an awful lot during this (if you don't know flagging is when you point a gun at someone you don't intend to shoot, loaded or not) for example when they were crossing the stream in the beginning all but the last man in line had their guns pointed forwards, meaning they were pointing at the person in front of them. To avoid flagging I'd suggest having the point man's weapon trained forwards with everyone behind him (except for the last man in the column) pointing their weapons to the right and left flanks (ideally alternating with each person watching the opposite direction of the person in front of them) and then having the man at the rear watching out behind them.
Other than that this looks amazing👍
OH FUCK YEAH, can't wait for the landfall vibes to return with this one
Let’s fucking gooo!
SO EXCITED 🔥🔥🔥
Ahhh yeahhh
That one ODST must have been a former spartan 2, he’s like more than a foot taller than the rest lol
That would be Offearth3d. He really is spartan size in real life 😂
OMG YES LET'S GOOOOO!!!!!
Aside from the acting (which can be fixed) you guys showed a lot of love and attention to detail for this project. Seeing as how this is only the pilot I see a ton of potential
This is pretty good but theres a few things that hold it back. I'd say the editing in terms of colour grading needs a lot of improvemnet. The action in terms of ODSTs clearing a building should be a lot faster, theyre special forces, if you watch footage of special forces clearing buildings its a lot quicker and smoother, obvioulsy something that comes from practice. I do think shot selection could also be better, like when they breach the room and take down the dude recording it comes off as a bit cringy more than cool because of the comical cut to him on the ground, i think it would be better to have it be one take from the outside in showing them disabling and cuffing him, wouldve been a little more intense and interesting to watch. Audio could have more radio static when the troops talk, better weapon sound effects and in general more background ambience to add to the creepiness. This was a critical comment but i still enjoyed this a lot!
I need more!!!! Awesome start guys!
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Now that's a real Halo TV show!! We need more gun action, melee combat, brutality, brrrrrrrr boom boom bam! And no bum naked master chief.
With proper funding, we absolutely want to go all out!
Alright, no but naked master chief… other character butts are still on the table though right?
Awesome stuff! The props and sets look amazing, I love the attention to detail.
My only critique would be I think the tone would benefit from some color-grading, the world feels a bit too "warm" for halo iykwim. I hope you are also considering some POV shots because that would be sick.
Love it and looking forward to more!
sick, love seeing more of the shady black ops side of the ODST
Is it too high a claim to say this looks better than the Halo TV show we got from Paramount?
Also, as an ODST fan, this is great to see!
This looks sick so far, I only really have two criticisms which are that the acting needs a lil bit of work in some places and as someone else pointed out the audio is a bit too clear, other than that the props and story y’all are setting up seems cool as hell!
Since it’s already been touched upon by you and someone else I’ll add my last bit of constructive criticism, the stacking, breaching and room clearing was superb but it would’ve been nice to have seen the lcd screen on the door opener for more depth and my only other nitpicks would be seeing an MP9 in 2552 in one of the URF soldiers hands and the bit with the comms unit on one of the ODSTs helmets being used seemed a tab bit awkward. Apart from that this is a true halo TV series and what 343 should’ve given us long ago. I can see just how much work has gone into making those suits and it seems to really show
Absolutely fantastic work you guys! Some beautiful cinematography here, especially in that opening scene with all the ODSTs walking through the field *mwah* just sublime! Production and costume design absolutely on point too, you guys nailed it there. Specifically really like the insurrectionists' costumes and makeup work to make them look dirty and rugged. The ODST suits themselves too look awesome! Each looking believably worn and having their specific bits to personalize from each other, hope to see that further developed in future! Those bullet impacts effects too are just FANTASTIC!!! Sure paid off to do that practically selling that IMPACT and the performances too! There seemed to be a bit of a frame rate issue however around the 2:24 mark, with the dialogue audio also being a bit unclear with some sound design choices that distracts a bit from the exchange like that of the random loud cracking. Also gotta say, would have been such a CLEAN shot if the focus-pull at 4:29 was done quicker and held on that poster, would've made for an awesome sequence but that's just a minor nitpick from me! There's also some parts in the editing that I think could've been fine-tuned a little bit to sell the pacing. But apart from that, the editing as a whole is really nice and I LOVE the cutting between the ODST group and the Propaganda transmission, helps break up the action and adds a lot more to the tension and world-building. You guys have done a FANTASTIC job here and I can't wait to see what y'all come out with next!
LESSSSSFUCKINGGGGGOOOOOOOOO
Super cool. This is what I think the community has been waiting on. Im super impressed. The dialog, the movements, the camera shots, costumes, the narrative. The bullet effects were dope as hell. B+
If you guys wanted some kind of tangible feed back read more please.
The lighting was either perfect or too bright. Like the insurrectionist in the beginning were under total flood light; and perhaps dimmer lights resembling moon light, a static orange light, and then the camp fire light would have set the mood of infiltration under darkness more. Like the shot of the ODSTs coming into the compound around the corner just after taking the insurrectionist out, that shot was sick as hell and them appearing out of no where shows their tactical prowess. But it was again bright. And then the music is so right for ODSTs but I think this scene would have done better with some more a slow and methodical riff that built up to a crescendo of the breach. I think Sicario (2015) Night Approach scene has some elements of what I've critiqued here. Solid work you guys, this is gonna be big.
Love a lot of what I'm seeing. Dome of the acting isn't too good but that opening was awesome. Props ect look great!
feet first into hell
We bring Hell with us
Great work! Love the visor effects. Costuming on point! I've always wanted to see a band of brothers type of series with ODSTs
I feel at home with my fellow geeks rn.
It’s more than great, closest thing we have to what we want but imagine an actual big budget man, would be a killer show and can lead up to other stories such as reach, noble 6, blue team, etc.. rather than the crap we got a while back.
This the best live action Halo content we’ve gotten in ages lmao. Seriously though, this is awesome
Cool to see people tackling the Insurrection era! Having some of the rebels wearing mismatched UNSC gear was a good choice.
It's very promising.