The bone giant's poor ability to actually shoot instead of pull an arrow out and put it away is insanely aggravating to watch, and probably tenfold so to use. I hope they fix that.
I have to say Indy, you really get some sweet close ups for the many unites within your replays, it is beyond fantastic and you are one of the many that keeps the flavor going in Total War games on youtube. Thank you! :)
Bone giant's accuracy leaves much to be desired. You usually have to bring like 2 just to guarantee some damage. He's also really buggy for a ranged artillery unit, dropping fire orders all the damn time.
The speed/melee stats factor is what makes me prefer Horse/Chariot Khatep if using him, which gives so much more capability to safely roam while spell-throwing. Admittedly, that loses the artillery power, but in battles like this where it somehow misses so many times on the enemy approach? Not a loss that I mind too badly for a big gain in his survivability and mobility
I dunno, I actually favor lore of light in this matchup- I find Lore of Nehekara complements a more melee focused playstyle, which is not where I want to be against Chaos. Net is just too good against Chaos. Pha's Protection is pretty decent as well. Khatep isn't a bad choice, but in all honesty, a standard Tomb King on a horse has seen the most success for me. The Amulet of Pha-stah does serious work. The Blessed Legion of Demonetization and Chosen of the Gods are fantastic picks if you're looking to do a more ranged-centric build. Greatbows with the Sphinx of Usekph are your bread and butter, IMO, and Bone Giants are a pretty good pick too, but I seem to have bad luck with them. I haven't had much luck with Necropolis Knights either, but Stalkers do about as well for about 300 less or so. Make sure to leave them in guard mode though. One pick I'm experimenting with is the Screaming Skull catapults- they're dirt cheap, do pretty reasonable AP damage for their cost, and can rout chaff quickly. They're kind of short ranged, and if you don't field enough of them, their accuracy can be very spotty.
@@matics453 My followers appear to have been chased off by some filthy heretics. My comments have been getting less and less attention,which is without a doubt work of the filthy Chaos God's. It is obvious that the taint of chaos is spreading faster than we thought,but I shall prevail,SIGMAR shall prevail. Until then,stay Steamy my son.
Yesterday on my khemri campaign I had to defend against hexoatl in one of my cities, they had 2 armies, one sucked with skinks and kroxis, but the other had cold bloods, carnosaurs, stegadons, temple guards, and all that and I had a full army of good infantry, 3 ushabtis with bows, 2 bone giants, 2 normal archers, and the renown archer unit, plus other units,plus the garrison. They concentrated all their monsters in one of my flanks, and I won just by focusing all my missiles on those monsters. It was stupid, how the renown archers lowered armor and the ushabtis literally killed stegadons in 3 shots. I totally love those guys, against grouped enemies, I pick bone giants, but overall I prefer the ushabtis
Problem with Tomb Kings, very expensive units that are fairly easy to counter due to low mobility and game mechanics. They do have the coolest units in the game.
@milkandcookiesTW Oh. Then I take it that Kholek didn’t really get a death story? And also tisk* tisk* Indy you’re tongue speaks heresy. Kill the mountain God?!
Correction Indy: Khatep does not have a weakness to fire as the only Tomb King Lord. Basically he is still technically alive and therefore have not been embalmed and dried.
Made a mod where There were 5 kholeks with 100,000 hp at least in total, fought it as Orion with 30,000hp, wasn’t able to kill him obviously, but barely was able to outlast his leadership
I thought Caskets got an accuracy buff in the Aye Aye patch. Turns out it was worthless. Seriously, artillery needs to be at least somewhat accurate at long range to be useful.
I don't know why but every time i ever try and hit kholek with a something like a cannon or shem's burning gaze it will always hits on kholek's left side i'm thinking this might be a bug.
Well if you like the 4 basics factions then yes definetly. But, given the high number of DLC's, I would recommend waiting for sales to buy them and game one. (so you can access mortal empire)
Since im a noob at this game let me ask my noob question. Or suggestion, what is The best noob box, death star faction. Most boring tacting with The least Micro management, Who would win? Could you make a top five, Who does The worst tactik best?
I'd say dwarves, no doubt, they're slow, they have high armor to sustain proyectiles, they have magic resistance, good artillery, good ranged units, air units, and a lot of melee units have counter charge skills, plus they hit hard, and they have good anti large units. They lack movility, of course but that's why they're made for tanking and waiting. Honestly I feel like the empire does it pretty well as well as they have a huge pool of artillery choices, and also I'm playing the tomb kings campaign and as their infantry is really slow and has high melee defense plus good shields I feel like they're made to hold the front and let the monsters and chariots flank. On the other hand, although I don't have them and I don't know them too well I feel like the pirates are also a camping faction, a lot of meatshield infantry a lot of missile infantry, ranged monsters and special units, artillery and stuff. But I don't know, I'd say those as probably the easiest in terms of micro. Well, chaos warriors are not too hard too, your infantry wins almost every 1 v 1,so you don't have to worry about them, then you just have to aim your artillery and move your monsters, easy. But over any other faction, dwarves, no doubt they're the camping kings
I wish you would upload loreful battles based on the End of Times books. I often do that online and the battles can get very interesting given the units are fixed so players have to play with what they have.
I will be covering Heffengen when Nurgle comes. many of the end times battles have units and characters we dont have access to yet. that will be fixed in the third game
@@milkandcookiesTW True, but I can't wait for that xD I try to make do with what we have already, but it is a problem whenever the battle involves Chaos... Anyway, thank you for answering my comment, you are my favourite Warhammer youtuber, no one else gets that mix of narration, lore and tactics like you do as far as I know.
hit Kholek 3 times, killed some Chosen, terror routed a lot of infantry. Got 2 chevrons worth of experience. it wasnt amazing this game but it definitely wasnt bad. and always fun to try different builds and units out, dont want to play the meta every time ;P
i believe you're thinking of the Chosen of the Gods RoR, whose unit card says "anti-infantry" although they do not have a bonus vs infantry. regular Ushabti great bows dont have that flavor text, and their missile damage overkills infantry units and wastes the extra damage. They are better against large targets because their missiles will do their full damage without overkilling
its not ready yet. venris has been working on updating it for the new patch. when it goes into full beta stage and i can show off the things i wana show off, i will cover it!
@Texan 214 you played well man nothing you have to justify lol. couple micro lapses, happens to everyone occasionally, not a big deal. certainly not terrible
Valiant effort. Kholek is still too powerful, the bone giant too inaccurate. Otherwise it's a really good matchup. Miss-micro probably cost you the game.
I feel like Tomb King's are by far the weakest faction in the game. They are a race that relies heavily on synergy between units but in my experience those synergies simply don't match the efficiency of individual units or combos for the same price point that all other races are capable of.
**Bone Giant misses 3 shots on a stationary Mountain**
„Okay, who thought bringing the stormtrooper back to unlife was a good idea?!“
Well, to be fair, it ought to be hard to aim when you dont have eyes.
I mean to be fair he was at max range and it's a construct.
The bone giant's poor ability to actually shoot instead of pull an arrow out and put it away is insanely aggravating to watch, and probably tenfold so to use. I hope they fix that.
When playing tomb kings, it’s obligatory that someone gets boned, be it you...or them...or both...
The Tomb king have distance attack advantage compared to chaos and he didn't use enought, chaos have melee advantage and the foe have use it.
I have to say Indy, you really get some sweet close ups for the many unites within your replays, it is beyond fantastic and you are one of the many that keeps the flavor going in Total War games on youtube.
Thank you! :)
thank you for the support my friend!
Bone giant's accuracy leaves much to be desired. You usually have to bring like 2 just to guarantee some damage. He's also really buggy for a ranged artillery unit, dropping fire orders all the damn time.
"damn, if only there was a way to turn around whille keeping this arrow nocked"
Your damn intro made me fail no nut November, Indy had to hit us with the Obi Wan meme
you were so close!
DOUBLE DARUDE SANDTORM RIGHT MEOW! 6:21
Khatep Kholek and the Bone Giant. Sounds like the start of a bad joke.
Khatep, Kholek and the Bone Giant walk into a bar. There were no survivors.
Khatep, Kholek and the Bone Giant walk into a bar...
It was C H A O T I C
There was a ton of fighting...
A SKELE-TON
The speed/melee stats factor is what makes me prefer Horse/Chariot Khatep if using him, which gives so much more capability to safely roam while spell-throwing.
Admittedly, that loses the artillery power, but in battles like this where it somehow misses so many times on the enemy approach? Not a loss that I mind too badly for a big gain in his survivability and mobility
Yeah, i noticed that too, he is not trustfull being a artillary
Yaaaay a Warhammer TH-camr that does close ups with quality gameplay and comentary!
Is it possible to do a solo lord campaign with Kholek and the Sword of Khaine? No units, just Kholek?
You could win every battle but a lucky agent would assassinate you so unfortunately not.
Sort of. You'll need a stack until you get the actual blade, though.
@@jerec1267 Lords can no longer be assassinated.
Lol that'd be awesome
If you can get a regen item item then yes
That LOS loss and animation on the Bone Giant is killing me
Your vids are the best man, keep up the awesome work!
Your intros, cinematics, visuals, and commentary.... priceless sir!
thank you my friend!
That choson that died at 2:10 must be the most laughed at chosen in the chaos afterlife because he was the first to die by artillery
Nope, he don't die at that time. He stand up and get back in line after that.
The best way to start the day is a video from milkandcookies.
The best way to start the day is some milk and cookies.
Bro these visuals are amazing! Great work
thanks chris!
Man I never look in detail in this game. The models look so nice.
Yes, the graphical-part is one of the strongest points of this game I would say.
I dunno, I actually favor lore of light in this matchup- I find Lore of Nehekara complements a more melee focused playstyle, which is not where I want to be against Chaos. Net is just too good against Chaos. Pha's Protection is pretty decent as well. Khatep isn't a bad choice, but in all honesty, a standard Tomb King on a horse has seen the most success for me. The Amulet of Pha-stah does serious work. The Blessed Legion of Demonetization and Chosen of the Gods are fantastic picks if you're looking to do a more ranged-centric build. Greatbows with the Sphinx of Usekph are your bread and butter, IMO, and Bone Giants are a pretty good pick too, but I seem to have bad luck with them. I haven't had much luck with Necropolis Knights either, but Stalkers do about as well for about 300 less or so. Make sure to leave them in guard mode though. One pick I'm experimenting with is the Screaming Skull catapults- they're dirt cheap, do pretty reasonable AP damage for their cost, and can rout chaff quickly. They're kind of short ranged, and if you don't field enough of them, their accuracy can be very spotty.
KARL,FRANZ,AND THE TANK OF STEAM PART 2:HERESY BOOGALOO
Plz don't ever leave ur comments are the hilarious😆😆😆
@@matics453 My followers appear to have been chased off by some filthy heretics.
My comments have been getting less and less attention,which is without a doubt work of the filthy Chaos God's.
It is obvious that the taint of chaos is spreading faster than we thought,but I shall prevail,SIGMAR shall prevail.
Until then,stay Steamy my son.
*STAY STEAMY FOR SIGMAR*
splendid video, really impressiv highlighting/ camera angle
thanks mate glad you enjoyed it!
"roomba of doom" new favorite unit name XD loving that my boi Khatep is getting some love
0:00 General Kenobi
Honestly I would have gone for more Ushabti with Great Bows, when you get three of them firing en masse, they tend to out DPS any one Bone Giant.
Yesterday on my khemri campaign I had to defend against hexoatl in one of my cities, they had 2 armies, one sucked with skinks and kroxis, but the other had cold bloods, carnosaurs, stegadons, temple guards, and all that and I had a full army of good infantry, 3 ushabtis with bows, 2 bone giants, 2 normal archers, and the renown archer unit, plus other units,plus the garrison. They concentrated all their monsters in one of my flanks, and I won just by focusing all my missiles on those monsters. It was stupid, how the renown archers lowered armor and the ushabtis literally killed stegadons in 3 shots. I totally love those guys, against grouped enemies, I pick bone giants, but overall I prefer the ushabtis
😂😂 the commentary on this battle was amazing
Problem with Tomb Kings, very expensive units that are fairly easy to counter due to low mobility and game mechanics. They do have the coolest units in the game.
just when you think indy's videos can't get any better, BAM the get better, 5 stars sir
I’m just confused at how Settra was able to decapitate Kholek in the “eNd TiMEs”.
he didnt. the settra kholek duel isnt canon. but Settra IS a boss so i dunno, maybe he could if it really came down to it ;P
@milkandcookiesTW
Oh. Then I take it that Kholek didn’t really get a death story?
And also tisk* tisk* Indy you’re tongue speaks heresy. Kill the mountain God?!
Chaos for life
I used to be a Chosen like you... 'til I took an arrow to the knee
With the size of those arrows, it's more like the arrow took you to the knee...
I saw that Chosen too! No wonder he retired to become a town guard 😂
By Sigmar you are not singing this time. This cursed voice blessed by Slaanesh will not destroy our soul with beauty.
Quality video as always. More High Elves next time
Khatep's blob-killing power is second to Mazdamundi :P but Maz is probably twice as expensive in MP
Ah, General Kenobi.
2:08 Don't you mean the doomba?
Correction Indy: Khatep does not have a weakness to fire as the only Tomb King Lord.
Basically he is still technically alive and therefore have not been embalmed and dried.
yep thanks for correction, forgot he wasnt mummified!
Well at least you got bones!
roomba of doom... doomba?
What kind of rig are you running? Everything is so fluid and high detail! My game runs fine but it definitely doesn't look as good.
3:59 chaos warrior took one in the knee
Okami no Tamashi I used to be an adventurer like you but I took an arrow in the knee
TF is aiming that casket?
Congrats on moving!
Made a mod where There were 5 kholeks with 100,000 hp at least in total, fought it as Orion with 30,000hp, wasn’t able to kill him obviously, but barely was able to outlast his leadership
Did you use your Ushtabi summon?
I cannot put into words how frustrating and infurating was to see that bone giant cock up an arrow only to put it back in the quiver.
Isnt it more safe to target the infantry instead of the hero at the start of the battle, so its a higher chance you atleast hit something?
I thought Caskets got an accuracy buff in the Aye Aye patch. Turns out it was worthless. Seriously, artillery needs to be at least somewhat accurate at long range to be useful.
ive seen it perform a lot better from long range, might have just been rngjesus cursing me in this one
I don't know why but every time i ever try and hit kholek with a something like a cannon or shem's burning gaze it will always hits on kholek's left side i'm thinking this might be a bug.
General Kenobi!
Is the game still worth buying
yes!
Yes.
Well if you like the 4 basics factions then yes definetly. But, given the high number of DLC's, I would recommend waiting for sales to buy them and game one. (so you can access mortal empire)
Current sale on atila total war is probably worth it more at the moment since it's only 8 bucks today.
of curse it is worth buying!!! you stupid dolt!
How would you rate Khatep vs Morathi?
I've been having more fun with Morathi than with Malekith lately...
Well... Maybe SFO's part of the funfactor.
I thought SFO wasnt ready yet? As in not updated for the new DLC/patch
Morathi is our mistress, complete devotion!
oh cool they're fighting in Australia
For Ze Empire!!!
Can we please have more battles with Alith Anar?
ill see what i can do!
Since im a noob at this game let me ask my noob question. Or suggestion, what is The best noob box, death star faction. Most boring tacting with The least Micro management, Who would win? Could you make a top five, Who does The worst tactik best?
I'd say dwarves, no doubt, they're slow, they have high armor to sustain proyectiles, they have magic resistance, good artillery, good ranged units, air units, and a lot of melee units have counter charge skills, plus they hit hard, and they have good anti large units. They lack movility, of course but that's why they're made for tanking and waiting. Honestly I feel like the empire does it pretty well as well as they have a huge pool of artillery choices, and also I'm playing the tomb kings campaign and as their infantry is really slow and has high melee defense plus good shields I feel like they're made to hold the front and let the monsters and chariots flank. On the other hand, although I don't have them and I don't know them too well I feel like the pirates are also a camping faction, a lot of meatshield infantry a lot of missile infantry, ranged monsters and special units, artillery and stuff. But I don't know, I'd say those as probably the easiest in terms of micro. Well, chaos warriors are not too hard too, your infantry wins almost every 1 v 1,so you don't have to worry about them, then you just have to aim your artillery and move your monsters, easy. But over any other faction, dwarves, no doubt they're the camping kings
Dwarfs are the easiest to box up with, Vampire Coast can do it pretty damn well too but obviously not as tanky
Chaos rulez!
Dude have a look at selians arkhan mod it's amazing. Oh and his wraiths for vampire counts mods both are in my opinion top notch.
Chaos just sitting there for the artillery?
Bone giant not shooting at the end there is so frustrating.
H E L L O T H E R E
Why havent you used ur Ushabtis? :D
I did, you can see them summoned in at 8:16. the Realm of Souls bar in replays doesnt show when you summon them
@@milkandcookiesTW Ah, thats why i thought it :D Thanks!
How do you miss Kholek when he is standing still?
best faction in warhammer and warhammer 2:
1) Warrior Of Chaos
2) Norsca
3) Beastmen
4) Greenskin
Warhammer 2 :
1) Skaven
2) Pirate Of Sartosa
3) Tomb Kings
4) Last Defender [ Lizardman ]
5) Dark Elves
You should fire witg ushabti on kholekx they are really good against him. It's really hard match up for TK.
Why didn't you summon Ushati warriors?
i did. replays dont show the icon/meter at the top change when you summon them. you can see me call them in at 8:16
did indypride forget to summon the ushabti?
nope 8:16. the meter doesnt show when youve summoned them in replays
The tomb kings got boned...How ironic.....💀
soo cinematick
I wish you would upload loreful battles based on the End of Times books. I often do that online and the battles can get very interesting given the units are fixed so players have to play with what they have.
I will be covering Heffengen when Nurgle comes. many of the end times battles have units and characters we dont have access to yet. that will be fixed in the third game
@@milkandcookiesTW True, but I can't wait for that xD I try to make do with what we have already, but it is a problem whenever the battle involves Chaos... Anyway, thank you for answering my comment, you are my favourite Warhammer youtuber, no one else gets that mix of narration, lore and tactics like you do as far as I know.
thanks for the support mate really appreciate it!
@@milkandcookiesTW You are very welcome! I would love to participate in any loreful battle you would like to play, whether uploaded or not! :D
God, i hate it so much when my units cancel attacks :/
epic
CHAOS should NOT have leadership issues lmfao.
Why did you bring the Bone Giant? It hit about 5 shots in the whole battle it's so inaccurate
hit Kholek 3 times, killed some Chosen, terror routed a lot of infantry. Got 2 chevrons worth of experience. it wasnt amazing this game but it definitely wasnt bad. and always fun to try different builds and units out, dont want to play the meta every time ;P
general kenobi
Chaos really need rework.
Ushabti great bows are anti infantry!
I never understand why they are always targeted against large targets!
It even says so in their unit overview!
i believe you're thinking of the Chosen of the Gods RoR, whose unit card says "anti-infantry" although they do not have a bonus vs infantry. regular Ushabti great bows dont have that flavor text, and their missile damage overkills infantry units and wastes the extra damage. They are better against large targets because their missiles will do their full damage without overkilling
Pleeeeaaaassseee some SFO????
its not ready yet. venris has been working on updating it for the new patch. when it goes into full beta stage and i can show off the things i wana show off, i will cover it!
was your opponent afk wtf
probably not, considering he won
@Texan 214 you played well man nothing you have to justify lol. couple micro lapses, happens to everyone occasionally, not a big deal. certainly not terrible
Casket of souls is really underwhelming. It's still needs better accuracy.
Khatep missed litterly everything.
Unpack attac
Useless casket just missing over and over
Why is the artillery so fucking bad. Im having an anurism.
Valiant effort. Kholek is still too powerful, the bone giant too inaccurate. Otherwise it's a really good matchup. Miss-micro probably cost you the game.
yeah wasnt happy about the error with my Ushabti lol
Sounds like a bad porn title
maybe it is!
I feel like Tomb King's are by far the weakest faction in the game. They are a race that relies heavily on synergy between units but in my experience those synergies simply don't match the efficiency of individual units or combos for the same price point that all other races are capable of.