Sig Sauer Rattler LT (new version) vs Sig Rattler (old version)

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ม.ค. 2024
  • lets check out the main differences between the new sig Sauer rattler lt and the original sig rattler.
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  • @joearabia5627
    @joearabia5627 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    Something I think you left out is the barrel/handguard compatibility. The OG Rattler was proprietary in its operating system and handguard. The Rattler LT is updated to be compatible with all other models of Spear LT.

    • @thegatmann
      @thegatmann  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Great info! Pinned.

    • @joearabia5627
      @joearabia5627 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      And for anyone wanting more info, this means you can't take a Virtus(or Spear LT) handguard and just throw it on an OG Rattler upper. You'd be left with an open gap in your top rail. Trying to add a longer barrel to your OG Rattler will force you to get a Virtus or Spear LT BCG since the operating rods are also different lengths. So, anyone with an OG Rattler has to go through a lot more steps to convert their gun to a longer barrel version. The new LT Rattler is essentially just the Tac Ops version of the Gen2 MCX without the SD handguard, and this change just makes the new Rattler more compatible/modular.

    • @jeffkashat4625
      @jeffkashat4625 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Just waiting on the SD Handguard now.

    • @user-ie9jz8ht6c
      @user-ie9jz8ht6c 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      According to this comment, The Canebrake handguard for OG Rattler is not compatible with the Rattler LT. Does that correct?

    • @ExileXCross
      @ExileXCross หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@user-ie9jz8ht6cwithout modification, you have to Dremel off a part of the top rail.

  • @ms542
    @ms542 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    FYI: I did boil water then took it off the stove and let the muzzle set in the hot water for 1 hour. However, when I got my muzzle device off on the rattler LT I saw no indication of rocksett. I believe the taper is just really solid and they crank it down at the factory. Easiest way is to remove barrel and put in vise against the sides of the gas block. Use a bit of heat/torch evenly and then use a crescent wrench. Went pretty easy if you have a solid vise and some heat. It did take a few heating cycles with me trying to loosen in between heating.

    • @thegatmann
      @thegatmann  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’ll try that!

    • @criticalstruggle3428
      @criticalstruggle3428 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Plus 1 for my rattler LT. It didn't have rockset I just used a socket and my impact driver. It came right off

    • @festerofest4374
      @festerofest4374 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Someone from Sig (I'm in NH not far from their main store) told me they don't use Rocksett. People think Sig does because they are on there so incredibly tight.

  • @khtrucking6962
    @khtrucking6962 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great review man thank you!

  • @DoaneTactical
    @DoaneTactical 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Two is one, One is none. At least that's the excuse I'm giving myself to purchase the Rattler LT. I also have an original rattler and love just about everything about it. I like the new receiver features on the new MCX/ Spear rifles so I appreciate them being added to the Rattler LT. Also the compatibility with the other LT models is kind of cool in my opinion. I found myself wanting that with the original Rattler because of the pistol brace fiasco.

  • @portermaberry5909
    @portermaberry5909 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice review!!! Just might grab one.

  • @SavageRiders316
    @SavageRiders316 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Soo will they offer an upper Conversion Kit for this one like they did for the original? For those of us who already have an SBR Lower available.

  • @artificialtelemetry
    @artificialtelemetry 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I like the LT the most. I think it's a redesign and though out much better.

  • @IvIidnight
    @IvIidnight 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I like that you can just get a Spear upper in the same caliber and have more capability. 🐱💙🙏🏻👊🏻🌚

  • @RedEarthRider
    @RedEarthRider 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I now own more sig spears than ar15's. The best way to take off the muzzle device is buying a Gieselle reaction rod. Grinding off the 1 and 3 o'clock lugs. This will allow it to fit into the mcx/spear series of rifles just like it was made for it. The rod is still able to be used with AR15's. Yeah, it cost about 100 bucks for the reaction rod but the grinding off of the lugs doesn't make it mcx/spear specific, so I say it's a no brainer for those who own both platforms.

    • @thegatmann
      @thegatmann  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’ll check that out!

  • @Tacticool114
    @Tacticool114 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Which brace do you prefer? The sb tactical one or the strike industries one?

  • @thuanbui520
    @thuanbui520 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What brand of ammo did you run for the rattler mine is having feeding issue

  • @rcg3496
    @rcg3496 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Did I miss it or did you compare the weights and the cost 🤔

  • @fatbackcrowe2448
    @fatbackcrowe2448 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I have the 5.5 version and I like it better because it fits the smaller Virtus BP . The extra inch and suppressor FH wouldn't let it fit. I think the actual weight is about the same for both.

    • @UltimateEnd0
      @UltimateEnd0 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I like both tbh

    • @Youknowwh0iam
      @Youknowwh0iam 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Does the 5.5 have less recoil? Comparing both with same can?

  • @Rangergeo85
    @Rangergeo85 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hope you're keeping it

  • @adamf.4823
    @adamf.4823 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What is the foregrip on the original rattler here?

  • @slacker6122
    @slacker6122 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Did you purchase you LT with the telescoping brace?

  • @Jasonz1919
    @Jasonz1919 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    old school rat looks better

  • @Newbecollector
    @Newbecollector หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Am stuck on getting the rattler Lt or spear Lt 9inch

  • @user-bj5xr5ju4n
    @user-bj5xr5ju4n 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    increasing the barrell length on the new rattler is an admission from sig that 5.5 is too short even for the 300blk. disapoointing but lets rather have that +1 inch if needed than not.

    • @echofoxtrotwhiskey1595
      @echofoxtrotwhiskey1595 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It has nothing to do with 300BLK and everything to do with having more dwell time to work with so it’s not as gassy suppressed.

  • @AS-dz1ww
    @AS-dz1ww 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Subscribed!!

  • @aftermath2333
    @aftermath2333 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What red dot is that?

  • @BrianKern2121
    @BrianKern2121 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This video will probably be a good example of my capital gains loses for 2024 in 300 BLK.....

  • @matthellcat2494
    @matthellcat2494 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Why didn't they put that rattler tag on the spear, but with spear

  • @EITFM
    @EITFM 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Factory sig three prong muzzle device is not difficult to remove on 300 blk rattler. Clamp the barrel assembly in a a vice and It will come right off with a wrench and a bit of leverage. Only on the 5.56 rattler barrel is the muzzle device really stuck on, because it is attached at the factory with Rokset thread glue because it is not recommended to be removed was sick does not want people running that short of a 5.56 barrel suppressed.

  • @Shoop...
    @Shoop... 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My main interest in comparing the two lies in it's ability to effectively manage gas with suppressed 300 blk and more importantly it's ability to switch between subs and supers on the fly. After shooting subs does the gas need to be togled when loading a magazine of supers or have they found a middle ground in their 2 stage gas setting.
    Beyond that, the 300 blk Rattlers true competitor, in my eyes, is the CMMG Dissent and it appears to handle gas, both sub and super, like a pro. However, I have yet to find a true and full comparison of both platforms and more specifically their gas management and how functional it is to toggle them during use or if it's needed.
    Thanks for covering the cosmetic fluff though, the Sig website doesn't seem to care enough about it's civilian clients to offer much or any information on the subject.

    • @paulbarclay4114
      @paulbarclay4114 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Dont compare cmmg to sig
      Not even in same ballpark

  • @MaddieLivingston42069
    @MaddieLivingston42069 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Very well done video, my favorite gun is probably my OG Rattler with the 5 inch barrel, I don’t chase women so I’m good sacrificing the extra inch 😂 #SizeMatters

    • @thegatmann
      @thegatmann  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😂😂 thank you!

  • @ericguy4611
    @ericguy4611 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What sight is on the new rattler?

  • @silasvongsamath6500
    @silasvongsamath6500 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m get a Rattler LT fasho

  • @Richard-wz9uh
    @Richard-wz9uh 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    LT is a definite upgrade with ambi controls and compatibility with other LT handguards and barrels but light it is not (Yoda?).

    • @echofoxtrotwhiskey1595
      @echofoxtrotwhiskey1595 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s lighter than the OG Rattler.

    • @Richard-wz9uh
      @Richard-wz9uh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595 True. True. Still there are significantly lighter platforms for this barrel length and caliber. I'm being picky I suppose. I really want to see more mainstream companies using better materials liked forged magnesium receivers, titanium small parts, and carbon fiber furniture though. Sure it's expensive now, but if it begins to be manufactured at scale, it won't be expensive forever. Then the whole industry is propelled forward. This isn't even considering the untapped advancements in cartridge technology that is just waiting to be used by mainstream firearms manufacturers at large. That could REALLY propel firearms tech forward. Smaller, lighter guns with lighter ammo that has the same effect as current full size MSRs.

  • @LK-bz9sk
    @LK-bz9sk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The man can shoot!!

  • @Mrgunsngear
    @Mrgunsngear 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    🇺🇸

  • @cbrdeathwish
    @cbrdeathwish 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Only thing I care about is how gassy is the new LT? My 5.5 will choke you out indoors

  • @earlyblackmz
    @earlyblackmz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    LT price?

  • @bluegunner4719
    @bluegunner4719 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does it have a bendy barrel like the spear rifles?

    • @crashdsnowman1
      @crashdsnowman1 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Barrels don't bend, Retorque the barrel bolts to the new spec...5lbs more than the old spec.

  • @DLW23940
    @DLW23940 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    6.75 inch barrel or 6.5 inch barrel?

  • @cops312
    @cops312 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When will the 5.56 with 7.75” barrel be released?

    • @chrisvela4860
      @chrisvela4860 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Never, it's meant for 300

  • @benjaminkitchen7562
    @benjaminkitchen7562 หลายเดือนก่อน

    rattler upper + regulator lower would be cool

  • @Mitchell162
    @Mitchell162 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bezt intro bro

  • @GammaRayTrae
    @GammaRayTrae 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think the lt is a major upgrade because if the weight saving, trigger (plus you can use any trigger now), and more mlok points
    They should have gone with a 7” barrel, I think that’s the sweet spot for 300 black as a do all cqb system

    • @DudeManDave
      @DudeManDave 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The new rattler is heavier than the old rattler just an fyi.

    • @dadrionrichardson530
      @dadrionrichardson530 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can get it in a 7.5” configuration from the factory.

  • @lordhuck2689
    @lordhuck2689 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Weight difference?

    • @thegatmann
      @thegatmann  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Without all of the attachments, the rattler lt is 5.1lbs and the older rattler is 5.7lbs.

  • @divine_king_8492
    @divine_king_8492 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Which one is heavier?

  • @patriotgunner
    @patriotgunner 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Rattler LT has a 6 & 3/4" barrel not a 6.5" like you said.. Just saying

  • @mindcraftpoly8869
    @mindcraftpoly8869 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did I miss you telling me the weight difference?!?

  • @wood-wheel-wizard
    @wood-wheel-wizard 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No I got cmmg dissent instead

  • @just4thethrills
    @just4thethrills 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Almost 3 bands ugh

  • @dennis9695
    @dennis9695 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He sure showed that cardboard

  • @Maddoe82
    @Maddoe82 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1st Gen

  • @Collin4486
    @Collin4486 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Vote for Pedro

  • @jp71889
    @jp71889 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Don’t do boiling water, just leave the muzzle in a cup of water for 24 hours. Ez pz bb

  • @not_your_business666
    @not_your_business666 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As for me a 6.75 barrel is a downgrade. The old rattler with a folding stock and K can is easier to conceal in a backpack.

  • @spider-ralph8540
    @spider-ralph8540 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Holy jeeeeSUS.... and dip my milk in cookies. You got a permit for that fully-auto-finger. ( FAF ) my guy? Lol
    Also... i have no idea what the heck i just said 😂🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @chltmdwp
    @chltmdwp 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Video starts at 1:41

    • @thegatmann
      @thegatmann  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No. Video starts at 10:13

  • @williampearson6259
    @williampearson6259 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Seems like a waste.
    I'll stick with my canebrake.

  • @superboy305
    @superboy305 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This year hopefully for me

  • @ShermThatSmith
    @ShermThatSmith 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Assault on a target dummy 😢

  • @jimrodriguez8047
    @jimrodriguez8047 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’d buy the SIG LT and Rattler LT if they offered with a slower twist. I prefer to shoot the zippy supersonic 300’s and the 1:5 twist is way too fast. Great for subs and suppression but not 110-125 gr.

    • @mattrogers6237
      @mattrogers6237 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      how so? the rotational energy difference in supers is SUBSTANIAL having the faster barrel. The people who developed the round put it in all their weapons as does sig. 1:5 is what all 300blk barrels should be.

    • @jimrodriguez8047
      @jimrodriguez8047 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mattrogers6237 110 gr bullets in a 9” barrel run about 2150 fps. With 1:5 fast twist at that velocity, excessive bullet rpm and bullet jacket separation becomes a problem. Bullet rpm for the aforementioned is in the RED at nearly 310,000 rpm..entering solid bullet territory. David Silver, the R&D Chief at AAC that developed the 300 blackout found the most versatile barrel twist for supers and subs to be 1:7 and 1:8..that was the design goal of 300 BO to be capable of doing both. SIG focused on maximizing subs for suppression in the Spear LT hence the 1:5, but to the detriment of supers. If you review Daniel Defense, LWRC, LMT and most other manufacturer offerings, they use 1:7 NOT 1:5. 1:5 is not what AAC intended as you stated. 1:5 is specialized for subs.

    • @jimrodriguez8047
      @jimrodriguez8047 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      110 gr bullets reach about 2,150 fps out of a 9” barrel. At this velocity and a 1:5 twist, excessive bullet rpm and potential for jacket separation is a possibility. Bullet rpm for the aforementioned is about 310,000 rpm. That’s in the RED, where not all jacketed bullet designs will stay together. David Silver, the AAC R&D Chief that developed the 300 BO, found the most versatile twist for subs and supers is 1:7 and 1:8. The design goal of the cartridge was to be able to shoot both. SIG chose to optimize the Spear LT 300 BO for subs and sound suppression by choosing 1:5, and to the detriment of lightweight supers. If you review manufacturer offerings from LWRC, Daniel Defense, LMT, BCM and others they all use 1:7. 1:5 was not the original AAC twist as you stated and should not be the universal twist either as it’s focused on heavy subs.

    • @Bisley1
      @Bisley1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jimrodriguez8047i agree with this in regards to supers.

    • @brighthought11
      @brighthought11 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@jimrodriguez8047 1:5 is superior in testing.

  • @Thisthat1234
    @Thisthat1234 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Old or New both overpriced

  • @iplink8004
    @iplink8004 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ones lighter

  • @calebclark6739
    @calebclark6739 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That grip looks horrible.

  • @Not_A_Federal_Agent
    @Not_A_Federal_Agent 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Unwatchable

  • @jammbbs1688
    @jammbbs1688 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I hate this gun

    • @great_deception
      @great_deception 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Enjoy your Kel Tec

    • @jammbbs1688
      @jammbbs1688 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@great_deception armalite

    • @great_deception
      @great_deception 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jammbbs1688Even better, stuck in the 70s.

    • @jammbbs1688
      @jammbbs1688 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@great_deception armalite makes rifles to this day it's not same management but they make great shit

    • @Youknowwh0iam
      @Youknowwh0iam 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@jammbbs1688just say your poor bro it’s cool. You’ll get there one day.