To me it seems fairly clear. This is either a C'tan shard or an avatar of the wider Necron Pylon structure, that kept the galaxy together before Abaddon ripped it up.
It might be a/the Biotransferance-engine. AKA - The thing that turned Necrontyr into the current Necrons, It might have tried to necrofy the Techpriest and failed as he was a human and thus a creation of the old ones.
That is not likely the C`tan at that point likely did not know about the warp or just to avoid it since it hurts them so not likely to build anything that makes use of it.
Also as an aside, I believe it's implied by the existance of Necrontyr DNA within humanity that humans were not made by the old ones. One theory I like is the idea that humans were made by the Necrons to counter the Eldar or to mock them.
@@Nervete it used to be hinted that the C'tan created the blanks in humans to slowly grow them then use them to fight the old ones and their psychic using creations
Sounds like it might be a part of the burning one c'tan, with all the burning up from the inside and afaik he was the c'tan making the dolmen gates to break into the webway. Fits all together.
If this is a cultural reference to the Colossus of Rhodes, what was the function of that statue? I believe it marked the enteyway through a safe channel away from sharp rocks, sail between his legs and you were okay. It makes me wonder if this Colossus marks another type of passage.
@@crystallkingh3048 lol. But since you already ready acknowledged you're egotistical, I had better point out that being as pretty as a metallic skeleton isn't saying much!
I would love more insights into the deep past. You're probably right: When there are no "good guys" in the present era, why should there be some eons ago?
I mean if you want to be technical. The Ultramarines are Pretty much Good Guys, as are the Salamanders and other smaller factions within the Imperium. You also gotta remember as well. Humanity has been through some serious shit.
just throwing the ideas out there for fun 1- if I recall there was a story bout a man of iron on a Blackstone fortress ... what if it was something similar. 2- shenanigans and perturabo
Sounds to me like maybe the Necron were trying to make their own anti-chaos god, someone to rival the four Ruinous Powers, likely in an attempt to tame and perhaps even finally destroy their one great weakness.
I expect its a Necron Pylon Anchor point and worked with the Pylons to hold the warp in check and with out them its now been cut lose to float around. I would think the Pylons was not one side IE you can not have them in real space to seal the warp you needed something the other side to work as an Anchor point to lock on with to enable them to seal/hold the warp tear in place.
It's an old one that was pierced with Blackstone just like Naruto was in a fight with pain. Except the old one is basically the emperor but hold the warp back instead of illuminating it.
My head canon is the some crytek with temporal viewing capabilites saw the current future and took precautions. We know the Necrons can see future and past events and even send things through time.
Speaking of somone who receive a lot of knowledge about blackstone fairly recently, whats caul up to? He did recently have an interaction with a citan shard as well
The way this erm... franchise is run everything is possible... Maybe the Old Ones discoreved the C’tans first and saw them as the only possible threat to their galactic dominance and the Necrontyr seeing this made their move to contact the star gods in a desperate attempt to counter the Old Ones.
@HgHg-yp6ft It was basically stated way before that the Necrontyr due to their unstable evolutionary chain thanks to their redoactive sun were desperate to save their live cycle and stumbled on the old ones and Eldar and became envious of them and then attacked them to understand and unlock the secrets of immortality which backfired horribly and then turned to their gas giants and stars and using their advanced technology made the C'tan in which case they get tricked and biotransfer but the most important thing to know is the Necrontyr attacked first and were spiteful envious bastards unlike the retcon which paints them as sympathetic and now the Old Ones as villians. Christ not everything has to be morally grey.
One question I have is 'what were the pylons originally created for?' In the first "Dawn of Fire" book, Guilliman describes this line of pylons possibly holding back the warp and that the connection between mass and the thinness of the warp / material membrane. The big question that game to mind is: why? The fall of the Eldar happened much more recently than the pylon's construction. So it must have been something else.
Interesting point about this perhaps not being the first time the galaxy has had the immaterium flood into the materium. With the old ones being the OG psykers, and if I remember correctly the chaos gods not existing before the war in heaven, merging the two for a power boost in the war may have seemed like a win/win for them.
For me personally I'm really into The War In Heaven it's an awesome avenue of Lore I believe the Old Ones are War criminals and it's all their fault The Galaxy turned into a nightmare .
I mean, when you consider it was their reluctance to aid the Necrons when they were still fresh and blood that pushed them towards the C'tan... And they made races like the Eldar and Korks/Orks... Yeah, I'd say they at the very least share in the blame.
I think it would be interesting if its what they used to shatter the C'tan INTO the shards. Turning the C'tan from the masters to the servents though this thing. Would be hilarious if they figured out how to make such creatures from the Eldar.
A thought and this one is out there. Could it be an Aeldari and or Old Ones related construction? Hear me out. The only other things that we have ever hear described as being made of metal and black stone are the Blackstone Fortresses. The Blackstone Fortresses are also know to the Aeldari as the Talismans of Vaul. Could this be another creation of Vaul leftover from the war in heaven? Could this be the remains of Vaul himself adrift in the warp and having been reused and or perverted by the Necrons in some way to try to restore the divide with the warp? Could this be the remains of an old one or perhaps one of their creations that the Necrons have reused? Regardless I'm hoping that this leads somewhere fun.
Is is said that not all the C'tan were splintered and one or two disappeared. Could this be one of these who fled and hid in the warp. Or it could be the weapon that Abaddon and Vash'Tor set out to look for.
Best guess... it sounds like the outsider to me. A Catan even the neuron want to forget. His madness was legendary. And he could theoretically be using the black stone to consume warp energy as the Night bringer used to do with his rod.also and my memory could be wrong but the outsider used to have a model but it was only for battle fleet Gothic. So that could be another thing... if my memory stands. But I am not an expert on lore just a necron fan
im so annoyed with GW and what they re doing with the lore .. what will happen with the Necron story and the S. King the P. Nexus ... ??? what is going on with the Dark Eldar they wont do anything they just sit and hide ? got no plans especially now ? whats going on with the Eldar craftworlds or whats going on with Ynnead ?? thy cant get the last sword or what will they try will they try something else ? give us something beyond Space marines and meaningless Tyranids beasts doing the same thing over and over and over " uhh no Tyranids coming killing eating moving on tyranids coming killing eating and so on "" come on even the Orcs would have been more interesting
Ok, well, screw you guys too. I've been waiting patiently for more Tyranid action for a while and I'm excited. Couldn't care a whit about Eldar or Orks
@captainflapjax7240 100% agree 👍 no interest at all in orks the least worthy race in the setting. Tyranids are the best big bad we have a innumerable horde of bugs with nothing but endless hunger thats peak horror id love to see terra fall from a hive fleet. Currently lore is so rubbish now.
To me it seems fairly clear. This is either a C'tan shard or an avatar of the wider Necron Pylon structure, that kept the galaxy together before Abaddon ripped it up.
It's the real Nightbringer Ventris fought. The first one.
It might be a/the Biotransferance-engine. AKA - The thing that turned Necrontyr into the current Necrons, It might have tried to necrofy the Techpriest and failed as he was a human and thus a creation of the old ones.
That is not likely the C`tan at that point likely did not know about the warp or just to avoid it since it hurts them so not likely to build anything that makes use of it.
Also as an aside, I believe it's implied by the existance of Necrontyr DNA within humanity that humans were not made by the old ones. One theory I like is the idea that humans were made by the Necrons to counter the Eldar or to mock them.
@@Nervete it used to be hinted that the C'tan created the blanks in humans to slowly grow them then use them to fight the old ones and their psychic using creations
Sounds like it might be a part of the burning one c'tan, with all the burning up from the inside and afaik he was the c'tan making the dolmen gates to break into the webway. Fits all together.
Just what I was thinking, and if not the burning one, then certainly at least a shard of a c’tan
Or that c'tan that cawl tricked and ported him elsewhere. The construct surrounding him would not make sense with my idea
If this is a cultural reference to the Colossus of Rhodes, what was the function of that statue? I believe it marked the enteyway through a safe channel away from sharp rocks, sail between his legs and you were okay. It makes me wonder if this Colossus marks another type of passage.
I like necrons, they remind me of myself.
Egotistical
Extremely petty
Grumpy
And love to sleep in :)
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I read that as extremely pretty
@@Alf_Hairy-arse Well, I wont deny it :P
@@crystallkingh3048 lol. But since you already ready acknowledged you're egotistical, I had better point out that being as pretty as a metallic skeleton isn't saying much!
@@Alf_Hairy-arse Well, they certainly got that chissled chin ;)
I would love more insights into the deep past. You're probably right: When there are no "good guys" in the present era, why should there be some eons ago?
I mean if you want to be technical. The Ultramarines are Pretty much Good Guys, as are the Salamanders and other smaller factions within the Imperium. You also gotta remember as well. Humanity has been through some serious shit.
the C'tan 'burning one' - it always hated the webway
What that mechamicus adept saw is the very machine god himself. The Void Dragon.
just throwing the ideas out there for fun 1- if I recall there was a story bout a man of iron on a Blackstone fortress ... what if it was something similar. 2- shenanigans and perturabo
Sounds to me like maybe the Necron were trying to make their own anti-chaos god, someone to rival the four Ruinous Powers, likely in an attempt to tame and perhaps even finally destroy their one great weakness.
They already put those gods into poke balls.
I expect its a Necron Pylon Anchor point and worked with the Pylons to hold the warp in check and with out them its now been cut lose to float around. I would think the Pylons was not one side IE you can not have them in real space to seal the warp you needed something the other side to work as an Anchor point to lock on with to enable them to seal/hold the warp tear in place.
It's an old one that was pierced with Blackstone just like Naruto was in a fight with pain. Except the old one is basically the emperor but hold the warp back instead of illuminating it.
My head canon is the some crytek with temporal viewing capabilites saw the current future and took precautions. We know the Necrons can see future and past events and even send things through time.
Speaking of somone who receive a lot of knowledge about blackstone fairly recently, whats caul up to? He did recently have an interaction with a citan shard as well
It’d be interesting if it were revealed that the Old Ones were the aggressors and the Necrontyr were forced to sell themselves to the C’tan to survive
The way this erm... franchise is run everything is possible... Maybe the Old Ones discoreved the C’tans first and saw them as the only possible threat to their galactic dominance and the Necrontyr seeing this made their move to contact the star gods in a desperate attempt to counter the Old Ones.
@HgHg-yp6ft It was basically stated way before that the Necrontyr due to their unstable evolutionary chain thanks to their redoactive sun were desperate to save their live cycle and stumbled on the old ones and Eldar and became envious of them and then attacked them to understand and unlock the secrets of immortality which backfired horribly and then turned to their gas giants and stars and using their advanced technology made the C'tan in which case they get tricked and biotransfer but the most important thing to know is the Necrontyr attacked first and were spiteful envious bastards unlike the retcon which paints them as sympathetic and now the Old Ones as villians. Christ not everything has to be morally grey.
One question I have is 'what were the pylons originally created for?' In the first "Dawn of Fire" book, Guilliman describes this line of pylons possibly holding back the warp and that the connection between mass and the thinness of the warp / material membrane. The big question that game to mind is: why? The fall of the Eldar happened much more recently than the pylon's construction. So it must have been something else.
Necrons created them. Probably to fight the old ones and their warp magic
Could it be a damaged Dolmen Gate?
Just a note that Humble Bundle has a collection of books available until 18th or 19th July
Has to be a C'Tan, possibly absorbing warp energy as C'Tan usually do in the physical realm
I'd love to see the War in Heaven time period delved into, both in books and the tabletop. Because who wouldn't want to play a Krork army?!
Interesting point about this perhaps not being the first time the galaxy has had the immaterium flood into the materium. With the old ones being the OG psykers, and if I remember correctly the chaos gods not existing before the war in heaven, merging the two for a power boost in the war may have seemed like a win/win for them.
The Necrons: We do a little trolling.
For me personally I'm really into The War In Heaven it's an awesome avenue of Lore I believe the Old Ones are War criminals and it's all their fault The Galaxy turned into a nightmare .
I mean, when you consider it was their reluctance to aid the Necrons when they were still fresh and blood that pushed them towards the C'tan... And they made races like the Eldar and Korks/Orks... Yeah, I'd say they at the very least share in the blame.
I think it would be interesting if its what they used to shatter the C'tan INTO the shards. Turning the C'tan from the masters to the servents though this thing. Would be hilarious if they figured out how to make such creatures from the Eldar.
What are the tesseract vaults that hold the ctan made of?
Petty spite
It's an intombed old one. Traped by the neckrontier
It's a Blackstone fortress
It's the new McGuffin for everyone to fight over, or just possibly the new big bad for them to defeat. Probably the same thing Abaddon is now after.
A thought and this one is out there. Could it be an Aeldari and or Old Ones related construction? Hear me out. The only other things that we have ever hear described as being made of metal and black stone are the Blackstone Fortresses. The Blackstone Fortresses are also know to the Aeldari as the Talismans of Vaul. Could this be another creation of Vaul leftover from the war in heaven? Could this be the remains of Vaul himself adrift in the warp and having been reused and or perverted by the Necrons in some way to try to restore the divide with the warp? Could this be the remains of an old one or perhaps one of their creations that the Necrons have reused? Regardless I'm hoping that this leads somewhere fun.
The thing is made out of necrodermis, not just some metal. Only necrons use it.
Could it even be Necron related per say? Didn't the Old Ones also use blackstone materials? Could this be one of their devices?
Its giving me "Sentinels" from X-men vibes. Myabe its a form of defender or assassin
Could it be Janus Draik?
A necron teddy bear 😊
its obviously not the silent king. probably a "new" ctan shard.
im starting to think at times the big e may be a old one on revenge and dos not care about any race any more only on revenge in a big game
C'tan was my first thought
Maybe during the war in heaven the pylon network was significantly larger and capable of dampening the warp across the entire necron empire
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Bruh Necrotyr through all their souless representation--- have a fking Necontyr God!
ITS ELDAR AND NECRON I THINK WHO BUILT IT
it sounds like a door that can close off or closed off the rifft
Maybe, just maybe, it's a C'tann.
Is is said that not all the C'tan were splintered and one or two disappeared.
Could this be one of these who fled and hid in the warp.
Or it could be the weapon that Abaddon and Vash'Tor set out to look for.
It's unicron
I think the old ones were not really that good. Wouldn't be surprised.
Hello
Why not an old one?
What do you mean we left the percs in the Great Rift!?!?
It really sounds like a C'tan. The Outsider maybe?
Feel like a C’tan to me.
Best guess... it sounds like the outsider to me. A Catan even the neuron want to forget. His madness was legendary. And he could theoretically be using the black stone to consume warp energy as the Night bringer used to do with his rod.also and my memory could be wrong but the outsider used to have a model but it was only for battle fleet Gothic. So that could be another thing... if my memory stands. But I am not an expert on lore just a necron fan
There is no good and bad in 40k, just different shades of grey.
Yeah, demons are clearly bad
c'tan prison
im so annoyed with GW and what they re doing with the lore .. what will happen with the Necron story and the S. King the P. Nexus ... ???
what is going on with the Dark Eldar they wont do anything they just sit and hide ? got no plans especially now ?
whats going on with the Eldar craftworlds or whats going on with Ynnead ?? thy cant get the last sword or what will they try will they try something else ? give us something beyond Space marines and meaningless Tyranids beasts doing the same thing over and over and over
" uhh no Tyranids coming killing eating moving on tyranids coming killing eating and so on "" come on even the Orcs would have been more interesting
Ok, well, screw you guys too. I've been waiting patiently for more Tyranid action for a while and I'm excited. Couldn't care a whit about Eldar or Orks
Agreed. I don't get the obession many fans and apparently GW have with the nids. Give me Necrons as one of the primary players over the nids
@captainflapjax7240 100% agree 👍 no interest at all in orks the least worthy race in the setting. Tyranids are the best big bad we have a innumerable horde of bugs with nothing but endless hunger thats peak horror id love to see terra fall from a hive fleet. Currently lore is so rubbish now.
maybe its part of the necrons end game aginst the tiranids
@wolflordrho Rogue trader book Void King. contradicts this
Wasn't there a c'tan that evaded the rebellion? Could it be that if I recall correct?