Schema Conceptualisation - Schema Therapy - Schema modes map

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  • Jess explains a tight conceptualisation of schema modes using a key illustration which provides an overarching conceptualisation of schema modes.
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  • @jonathanmoscrop6611
    @jonathanmoscrop6611 4 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    As a psychologist in Australia myself, also using schema therapy often, I found this to be amazing. Succinct and easy to follow. Wonderfully delivered. Thank you

    • @thePSYCHcollective
      @thePSYCHcollective  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thanks Jonathan. We’ll be doing some more videos this weekend and I’ll get the handouts up soon so check out our website and Facebook page for updates.

    • @thedonofm-town1856
      @thedonofm-town1856 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      can i ask.. how long does it take to help someone with their schemas.. on average?

  • @patrick6350
    @patrick6350 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    This is the kind of in-depth conceptualisation I've been after since starting with Schema Therapy fairly recently. You explained it really well, thanks!

  • @timothyholt1634
    @timothyholt1634 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Wow. Referred to this by my therapist. I cant believe it has taken so long to really understand what is going on. The concise explanation of the interrelated modes was fantastic

  • @nesli7575
    @nesli7575 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    This is (for me) the MOST helpful video in the entire internet! I just started seeing a therapist. My main reason was my anxiety, and over time I realised that I am also a people pleaser, a perfectionist and always put others on a pedestal. There is so much more but to make it short, this is exactly what my therapist does. He talked about disfunctional schema but as i am really interested in psychology I wanted to know exactly WHAT it is about. And everything, literally everything in this video makes perfect sense, you basically describe it exactly like I experienced it my whole life. Thanks and love from Germany!

    • @thePSYCHcollective
      @thePSYCHcollective  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you

    • @user-zo1fr1vk8e
      @user-zo1fr1vk8e 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Your comment about always putting people on a pedestall helps me actually.. also people plesser and perfectionist and anxious/ avoidance. I now see the pedestals part, I always thought it was a good part of me, see and acknowledging the good in people. I thought it made me good!

  • @user-zo1fr1vk8e
    @user-zo1fr1vk8e 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This was helpful. Ive been diagnosed with GAD, bordeline PD, other drs disagreed and said it is cylithymia, drs disagrees with that and said its dependent personality disorder. What is clear is that there were problems with adverse childhood experiences, poor reality checking, and i think a form of developmental disorder, what looked like ADHD for many years.
    This stuff makes sense, we all need to be heard.

  • @ellenchapman-ix3py
    @ellenchapman-ix3py วันที่ผ่านมา

    Amazing video. Thank you so much. It's good to know there are people like you in this world ❤

  • @srividhyasridhar9879
    @srividhyasridhar9879 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Excellent conceptualization. I have listened to this 4-5 times . Each time it gets clearer and gives me new insights to work with clients. Thanks for your good work. 🙏

  • @doumansarouei6994
    @doumansarouei6994 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I had read several books and this video was like a final shot to stamp it in my mind for ever, amazing

  • @sergiutigu
    @sergiutigu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i can't remember when was the last time that i followed something as coherent as this. complicated topics, easily explained.simply brilliant.

  • @davidbroderick6617
    @davidbroderick6617 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A really clear and concise overview. Great use of visuals. Thank you.

  • @0this
    @0this 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for your clear explanation. I am in Schema Therapy (as a patient) since 1.5 year. Your video brought new insights.

  • @richardactor
    @richardactor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This is good stuff. Holy crap no matter why I have so many of these and why they are so intense!

  • @marieflood6626
    @marieflood6626 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is really helpful. Im already in schema therapy since 2 years back but I found this now when my inner state felt too much for me to handle on my own and its a good complement when I cant talk to my psycologist. Thank you so much for teaching this and making it available all the way over to Sweden where I am.

  • @davidxing1585
    @davidxing1585 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was super helpful, thank you so much for taking the time to make content like this. You guys are awesome!

  • @RafaTobler
    @RafaTobler 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Great video! I'm a psychologist in Brazil and I love schema terapy. This was a brilliant explanation. Thank you!

  • @familiarpsychcollection_dr3675
    @familiarpsychcollection_dr3675 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    these are sweetest schema therapy i,ve ever seen thanks jessica

  • @newpathspsychology-creatin5964
    @newpathspsychology-creatin5964 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Jessica for developing the infographic. It is very clear and valuable, notwithstanding that I've worked with schema modes for a long time. A picture says more than 1000 words.

  • @dannyturano
    @dannyturano 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow, I found this clear and easy to understand...so well explained. Thanks Jess

  • @timstevens7233
    @timstevens7233 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wish I had seen this video 25 years ago - I think it could have been life changing. So many aspects of this resonate with me in a way I have never seen before. I am very glad that it is out there and hope it helps other people into the future. Thank you for sharing this

  • @Kim-kw7fo
    @Kim-kw7fo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    For me, schema has answered a lot. It makes sense. Couple schema with TA and people will learn a lot. It's all very fascinating, especially when exploring dysfunctional family systems. Very good explanation.

  • @sepehrdadrahimian2678
    @sepehrdadrahimian2678 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    You're amazing...this cleared things up a lot!

  • @iqraghaznavi2050
    @iqraghaznavi2050 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That is so so informative and comprehensive...I loved it completely 💜

  • @mistercbarker
    @mistercbarker 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Brilliant explanation - thank you!

  • @m.r.5089
    @m.r.5089 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you so much for this
    Great talk.
    I'm in schema therapy myself, and this has helped me understand the process better, and myself better as well!

    • @thePSYCHcollective
      @thePSYCHcollective  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad we could help. We have some more schema videos coming soon, so make sure you subscribe to our channel for updates

  • @sandrinelaberge8136
    @sandrinelaberge8136 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video ! Thank you very much for the explanation ! It makes things a lot clearer and manageable :)

  • @loekbongaarts2130
    @loekbongaarts2130 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Absolutely loved this. Easy explanation for a difficult topic. Thanks !!

  • @megmarie9944
    @megmarie9944 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    this was truly incredible, and so helpful. I am currently doing schema therapy with my therapist and during our session today it was a lot to take in. this really helped consolidate what she was talking about and I'm really appreciative that I can come back to this clip when I am trying to wrap my head around this. so thank you very very much!

    • @nish1152
      @nish1152 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, same experience here! Thank you so much for this video. :')

  • @OrbisonTributeArtist
    @OrbisonTributeArtist 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Outstanding work! So very succinct and economical. Thank you!

  • @jeremymagid123
    @jeremymagid123 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you. Just what I was looking for. You are a good teacher and this is important stuff.

  • @somachowdhury8672
    @somachowdhury8672 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very well explained 👍👍👍
    Looking forward to watch how you give the therapy to your clients🙏

  • @listche123
    @listche123 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is sooo well explained. I am happy that I found you!❤💯

  • @davidc9516
    @davidc9516 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    I'm not sure if anyone has pointed this out so I thought I'd let you know... it would be great if you could increase the volume on your recordings, I've got my volume maxed out and can barely hear you (relative to most videos on youtube coming out of the same speakers).. great video by the way!

    • @danielevergreen1133
      @danielevergreen1133 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I had to increase the volume in my headphones so high that when an ad from TH-cam interrupted the video, I almost crapped myself. But other than that, I was so fascinated listening to this that I even forgot about the volume.

    • @adrianagarcia5379
      @adrianagarcia5379 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought it was my volume. Very hard to hear it clearly.

    • @thePSYCHcollective
      @thePSYCHcollective  3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yep, it was our first video and we didn’t have the setup figured out yet. The newer schema videos are better audio quality.

    • @thePSYCHcollective
      @thePSYCHcollective  3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      We've just added the subtitles to this video. It took me hours of editing to get the jargon right. Better late than never!!

    • @fluffylynxpuss5043
      @fluffylynxpuss5043 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@thePSYCHcollective Love that you've added Subtitles! Really appreciate the hard work that went into that.
      BTW I can hear clearly when my volume is all way up. Thx x

  • @fatemehseifi3629
    @fatemehseifi3629 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    that was so amazing and useful. thanks a million

  • @ceararickard6078
    @ceararickard6078 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice work. Lovely, clear explanation!

  • @Opeth1991
    @Opeth1991 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you, your effort is so valuable.

  • @drapjb
    @drapjb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you - really great explanation

  • @ZacErickson1906
    @ZacErickson1906 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is an incredible overview. Thank you so much for providing this. L

  • @rahala89
    @rahala89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely amazing information and accompanying handout. Thank you so much! I live in Germany so am doing schema therapy in German. It is so helpful for me to have an overview in English.

    • @thePSYCHcollective
      @thePSYCHcollective  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you. I’m glad you’re finding it helpful

  • @DenizDuzyol
    @DenizDuzyol 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This was a very helpful video. Many thanks

  • @gregoryrigby1209
    @gregoryrigby1209 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fantastic summary, thank you!

  • @jessemessing3400
    @jessemessing3400 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are awesome I love your passion.thank you so much for doing this. You explain it so well.

  • @rokn35
    @rokn35 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you,
    Your explanation as your character is really
    charming and very nice ..
    I wish peace for you.

  • @kamilathijssen7379
    @kamilathijssen7379 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for sharing! This is great!

  • @cliffordwigg1638
    @cliffordwigg1638 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for this clear explanation, I have known about schema theory for sometime now but never heard it explained so well.
    Can’t wait to hear more such talks from this channel.

    • @thePSYCHcollective
      @thePSYCHcollective  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You’re welcome. We have quite a few more schema talks up already and we’ll release some more soon

  • @peterendyke4165
    @peterendyke4165 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So concise and understandable.

  • @fionaperkins2524
    @fionaperkins2524 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for a great description of Schema modes

  • @thiscouldbeatrap
    @thiscouldbeatrap ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing lesson! Thank you!

  • @biancapierce639
    @biancapierce639 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you. Really well explained.

  • @Scoobysue1977
    @Scoobysue1977 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Such a helpful presentation thank you 😊

  • @johndk8
    @johndk8 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is an excellent demonstration :) Your website is great as well, thank you for making your materials free to the public.
    Keep up the amazing work.

  • @harveylopezt
    @harveylopezt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was really useful, thanks a lot.

  • @cyberspetz
    @cyberspetz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve just heard about scheme therapy. Read few articles in Ukrainian. And got to TH-cam, to learn more. Just wow, sooo illustrative and straight to the point! Thank you for sharing your his. And yes please get a better mic for instance Rode VideoMic go 2 or same but wireless. Good luck and looking forward to hear more!

  • @Yeah-Righto
    @Yeah-Righto ปีที่แล้ว +1

    An amazing presentation/insight too what might be wrong with me. Thank you kindly.

  • @mwil619
    @mwil619 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent work here.

  • @kmeunier123
    @kmeunier123 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you. I deeply appreciate your video.

  • @mareikekeller9688
    @mareikekeller9688 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super interesting and very well presented, thank you. I first heard about schema therapy in 2006 when J. Young was at a symposium in Freiburg, Germany. Back then, I didn‘t really get the gist of the approach. Now after watching your video I think I do, and I definitely want to learn more about it. Thank you!!!

    • @thePSYCHcollective
      @thePSYCHcollective  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you. We’ve got loads more schema videos to help

    • @mareikekeller9688
      @mareikekeller9688 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thePSYCHcollective Just joined you on Facebook, checking out all the interesting posts.

  • @bhavneshdesai
    @bhavneshdesai 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hi, I have been watching multiple videos in this insightful channel and I congratulate you for its content!
    One feedback however, (perfectionist overcompensator?) Is that I have to keep reaching out to the volume buttons each time a new video starts. Please use loudness control function in any good audio editing software to ensure uniform "volume" in all your videos. Thanks again !

  • @luisdwq123
    @luisdwq123 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great content, very informative!

  • @patriciao.4442
    @patriciao.4442 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Amazing content! And hearing someone explaining it without using a vocal fry (which I can't stand, and seems to be a "pandemic" among young people) was a bonus! :)

  • @jonk8501
    @jonk8501 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wonderfully explained, thank you so much!

  • @rachelhubbard3494
    @rachelhubbard3494 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So clearly explained - thank you!

  • @zacharyfaty5988
    @zacharyfaty5988 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great content. Thank you!

  • @sillygirl1139
    @sillygirl1139 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brilliant thank you.

  • @lukecarey613
    @lukecarey613 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It helps me understand IFS better.

  • @richardactor
    @richardactor 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never mind. Found the pdf on your website. Thanks!

  • @julee0
    @julee0 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you, and for the handouts!

    • @thePSYCHcollective
      @thePSYCHcollective  ปีที่แล้ว

      You’re welcome! We have a workbook too:
      Schema Mode Therapy Work book
      th-cam.com/video/WjfpQu2NtNg/w-d-xo.html

  • @OJ-STUDIOS
    @OJ-STUDIOS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the information :)

  • @mostafahasanzade631
    @mostafahasanzade631 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job

  • @jsvensson8234
    @jsvensson8234 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you 🙏🙏🙏❤️

  • @richardactor
    @richardactor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Where's the word document? I am on fire with this! My therapist sent me to this site. This is good sh*t!!

  • @parionik4543
    @parionik4543 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing

  • @hanswouters5454
    @hanswouters5454 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent explanation!

  • @renildakammeron8071
    @renildakammeron8071 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thank you,

  • @emmac9260
    @emmac9260 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love these videos thank you.

  • @CheetahSnowLeopard
    @CheetahSnowLeopard ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is great, I’ve never heard someone describe the FFF concepts in more detail with subtopics. And it makes perfect sense because unfortunately for me I’ve had to live FFF my entire existence beginning with my adoption relinquishment.

  • @ninaharnish7154
    @ninaharnish7154 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very good explanation! You are amazing teacher🙂 Thanks from me, young psychologist from Ukraine 🇺🇦 🤗

    • @thePSYCHcollective
      @thePSYCHcollective  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! Make sure you check out the handouts on our website too

  • @igam8251
    @igam8251 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    great presentation, thank you

  • @esrasees
    @esrasees 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for explanstion

  • @Imisheardit
    @Imisheardit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Doc's appearance has been a greater therapy to me.

  • @FineFreja
    @FineFreja 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you truly

  • @sanjaykumarsingh5685
    @sanjaykumarsingh5685 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Too good. ..!

  • @ryarya3291
    @ryarya3291 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    hello, this is an amazing explanation. are you planning videos about how to reparent the vulnerable child? and if not can you suggest readings or books about it? Thx

  • @PatrickSingsASong
    @PatrickSingsASong 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice one. Thank you.

  • @j.q.3334
    @j.q.3334 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Life saving info + classic beauty = heaven on earth

  • @SneakySteevy
    @SneakySteevy ปีที่แล้ว

    21:23 when they deflect by using coping mechanism it usually creates differents problems.

  • @juliereedpsychfromtheheart
    @juliereedpsychfromtheheart 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is great! Do you have other videos talking about specific therapeutic treatment from this perspective?

    • @thePSYCHcollective
      @thePSYCHcollective  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We’ve got about 20 videos on schema therapy. Check out our schema playlist

  • @user-fh7kl4ut6f
    @user-fh7kl4ut6f 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I understood it all so easily, thank you! I love this channel and Schema Therapy. A question I am curious about, has the Fawn response ever been recognized in Schema Therapy? If so, what modes are present within it?

    • @thePSYCHcollective
      @thePSYCHcollective  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Fawn is a type of surrender, so it is covered in freeze

  • @Hornbag77
    @Hornbag77 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Seems to have a lot of crossover with Transactional Analysis models

  • @lenarddurand9833
    @lenarddurand9833 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great, thank you :)

  • @MrRus67
    @MrRus67 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely love the simplicity, clarity and professionalism with which this presentation was done, but I have to question the booting out of the critical parent, criticism sometimes drives innovation and motivates better outcomes; It would be better if we had to developed the capacity to value or disregard the input from the critical parent because criticisms is a concept we will always have to deal with and disregarding it will not always be a constructive option.

    • @thePSYCHcollective
      @thePSYCHcollective  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s the difference between the punitive critic and the demanding critic. One you banish, the other you negotiate with. I’ve done some extra videos to explain this in more detail. Let me know if they help

  • @ryarya3291
    @ryarya3291 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a wonderful explanation! Thank you. I have a question, where would all the schemas be? in the vulnerable child or in the punitive parent? Thx again

    • @thePSYCHcollective
      @thePSYCHcollective  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The vulnerable child feels the distress when the schema is activated, and the punitive parent reinforces the schema by pointing out the ways you’ve failed/been abandoned/ need to be perfect, etc

  • @rositsastoycheva2263
    @rositsastoycheva2263 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great explanation! Unfortunately, I can't access your website. Let us know about further updates.

    • @rositsastoycheva2263
      @rositsastoycheva2263 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thePSYCHcollective Fantastic! Thank you! Looking forward to more videos from you. Especially on schema therapy!

  • @user-st5cz8mt6j
    @user-st5cz8mt6j 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is there a possibility of two flight modes coworking?

  • @sergiutigu
    @sergiutigu ปีที่แล้ว

    i don't understand the connection between modes and schema. I mean what really differentiate a mode from a schema? and also i don't see a mode connected to approval/ attention seeking schema and no video about it in schema therapy playlist. i think it would really help me if you make a video about how you see this schema.

  • @killerbee1647
    @killerbee1647 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello. Thanks so much for all these videos. So helpful.
    I can't see the Word handout. Can you please advise how I get it. Thank you 🙏

    • @thePSYCHcollective
      @thePSYCHcollective  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can download it from here. www.thepsychcollective.com/resources/Schema-Therapy-c114456257

  • @richardactor
    @richardactor 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a question. I love this chart but can you show where in this "loop" does the actual maladaptive schemas fit?
    I think I know but I think seeing that in reference to your chart would be awesome.
    That way we could identify the maladaptive schema then see how that schema affects the vulnerable child and then see the maladaptive coping strategies then we can try to apply the other tools.

    • @richardactor
      @richardactor 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thePSYCHcollective thanks. That would be really helpful. Love your videos.

  • @seechao
    @seechao 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How much does the happy child mode potentially have to do with age play and age regression lifestyles? Jw.

  • @xKarenWalkerx
    @xKarenWalkerx ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fawn is also a strategy. However, my theory is that it is developed by grandiosity as a cognitive distortion that is so overblown that it creates a false self. In this sense, fawning is associated with Narcissism and Psychopathy rather than with codependent and Borderline behavior which Schema Therapy is more suited for. And in this sense also, you can view Codependency and Borderline as preliminary stages to Narcissism and Psychopathy, or as some scholars (Kernberg) describe as failed Narcissism where the patient was unable to develop a false self.
    Schema Domains and Startegies can also be viewed as self states. In my opinion, it is a mechanical description of Borderline Personality Disorder as it is an amlagamation of several self-states. In this sense, it is a lesser version of Multiple Personality Disorder (now called Dissociative Identity Disorder). For example, America is Borderline by structure (several states in one union.) And the European Union is several countries in one union (Multiple distinct Personalities in one - something much greater).
    Schema Therapy is a key therapy modality for the treatment of Borderline Pathology Organization.

    • @xKarenWalkerx
      @xKarenWalkerx ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @UCZbPzoyYzUzsFj4M-cE8AFA right right what I’m basically saying is my theory is that when she says here the narcissistic strategy under fight is that some people take it to the next level (via extreme grandiosity) and it functions completely different as basically narcissism and psychopathy. No longer had these rules. It’s more complex.
      However, this here is the underlying structure. Which is basically a Borderline structure. They have just overblown their grandiosity to a completely whole other level. And they no longer function as this fight freeze etc. it’s all Fawn with maybe some of these if the Fawn fails.
      So in a way Narcissistic is the next level after Borderline. But if that narcissist gets mortified it falls back to here. However, I think that person would be able to come out of this (just a basic codependent). So it’s like it’s either Borderline OR Narcissism (high) or Codependent (low).
      Otto Kernberg had this similar way of seeing it and I agree with him. He’s considered the grandfather of Borderline studies…

    • @tetrahexaeder6312
      @tetrahexaeder6312 ปีที่แล้ว

      Someone with Dissociative Personality Disorder (it isn't called Multiple Personality Disorder anymore, because that indicates a false picture of the disorder) doesn't develop mutliple personalities.
      They develop a personality that is less than one. It isn't a whole personality but rather fragments of what might have become a personality if the child hadn't been traumtized.
      I consider your comparison of personality disorders or dissociative disorders with states and countries as strangely odd.
      Psychologizing everything doesn't always go well. Especially if you're psychologizing something like... government systems. Sounds grandiose to me.
      And about fawning being a type of overblown grandiosity.
      Okay... wild theory. Doesn't add up to me though.

    • @xKarenWalkerx
      @xKarenWalkerx ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tetrahexaeder6312 it makes perfect sense. A borderline wasn’t able to produce a false self. The overblown grandiosity is the false self. False self is only seen in Narcissists and psychopaths. And that also explains why Fawn is not here. It’s not part of a Borderlines’s strategy. I suggest reading Kernberg’s literature on Borderline Conditions.

    • @xKarenWalkerx
      @xKarenWalkerx 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Fawning is a reaction formation which requires higher level of grandiosity because when it splits into good and bad object it actually projects the bad object into the environment. This is the fantasy space. So yes, requires higher levels of grandiosity to perceive the external as the internal in that way consuming it and making it a fantastic space.
      Borderline doesn't do this. She might somewhat do it within the context of a relationship, in that way she is fantasizing herself within the relationship (using partner as an instrument to do so) - easy to see how so many problems can arise from that.
      But in terms of fantasy as a reaction formation requiring higher level of grandiosity, that is 100% true. In the fantasy realm (narcissistic states) fawning is the strategy. So, yes, fawning requires higher levels of grandiosity. It's a level above borderline in that sense, just as Kernberg had first proposed 50 years ago. One of the self states is narcissistic and the I individual focuses on that states + more grandiosity and easy to transmute into a narcissistic state...

  • @Zevolous
    @Zevolous 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    With the inner critic, doesn't it have some use in showing what you did wrong that can be improved in the future. Or is that role overtaken by the healthy adult?

    • @thePSYCHcollective
      @thePSYCHcollective  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The problem is the way in which the punitive parent does it is over the top. Volume control on the demanding parent means it can show you how to improve but you can turn it down if it gets out of control. The punitive parent often just insults us for making a mistake and this can create shame

  • @alaakateb1694
    @alaakateb1694 ปีที่แล้ว

    What best book talk about schema for therapist ?

    • @thePSYCHcollective
      @thePSYCHcollective  ปีที่แล้ว

      Ours. www.thepsychcollective.com/resources/Schema-Mode-Therapy-The-Complete-Set-of-Worksheets-eBook-p460877511