I like how the Viper Mini went from the best value/budget mouse on the market with the wired version, to a mouse that even makes Finalmouse say "Wait, HOW MUCH?" with this. Like, I'm sure the tech and quality is great and it'll be loved by those who buy it, but man I wish they'd gone for a Viper Mini Ultimate first. This just seems so unbelievably niche at that pricetag.
Even tho I'ma prolly get this just cause, they confirmed 2 more versions are coming. A "Pro" model variant probably like the Viper V2 Pro and DAV3, and a more mid range model in probably the 80ish range.
UPDATE ABOUT SIDE BUTTONS HERE - th-cam.com/users/shortsRnIg4sP_xGo?feature=share For me, the only way this works is if the QC is untouchable and based on what we're seeing, thats not looking like the case. ***Ok my bad - its actually $279.99. Not sure that changes the convo much, but my bad nonetheless lol***
Idk, I feel like Razer is really reaching for unnecessary heights with the recent prices of their mice. $290 for large production mouse? Too much room for error and you see that with your model off the bat.
Razer announced that there will only be around 1700 units for every batches, quite limited actually. If this is too much, just wait for the plastic version to come out a few months later
@@vertuh9165 There are hundreds of countries, if you divide it equally then each country would only get around 20-50 units. Look at this way, Razer sells about 15 million units of the deathadder every year, this is only 1700 per batch. The main reason why the price is high is because the magnesium manufacturing is really tough and complex, which bumps up the QC process. This is also the first time a major company is doing magnesium mouses. If they can successfully master it, they can produce more and lower the overall price.
Thats how people are. So many people complain about Finalmouse quality control, yet they still sell out in less than five minutes. On top of that, people pay scalper prices for the mouse too.
Kinda wish they did this but with a shape designed specifically for those cut outs ... something about the rounded nature of the Viper doesn't quite suit it, but could be awesome with something else. Great video as always!
@Place Holder sadly not in recent memories (the only thing they made recently is the LGBTUVXYZ+++ mouse (G705), a refresh of their popular casual gaming mice (G502X), and more GPX colorway) But still let's not forget they pioneer the first flawless gaming mice sensor with their collab with pixart resulting in their PMW3366 (PMW3366 considered by many people including me as the first "flawless" gaming mice sensor, even Zowie still uses its public variant (3360) on their wired C series), the first gaming-grade wireless tech (first seen on G900), and the first lightweight wireless gaming mice which is viable even at the highest level of competitive circuit (GPW) combining their wireless tech, very efficient Hero sensor (so it can use smaller and lighter battery. Even 4 years later, Hero sensor still considered as most efficient gaming mice sensor. Its performance is now beaten by the likes of Razer's 3399 and 3950 tho), and great overall design (at that point in time)
@@AleksPlaysMc Just so ya know, sweat and dust are a non-issue with mice as long as you just simply got a can (or blower) of compressed air and a light brush. It won't actually do damage to the mouse unless you have hyperhidrosis (but you should just never use anything holed and have a protected keyboard at that point). Though it's odd, I don't mind this style of holes mice but hate the normal holed mice but prolly cause I've seen millions of them by now.
Thank you for doing an actual review on this mouse and going over it with a lot of detail. The other vids I have seen so far seem to be just ads for this piece of hardware.
I know it's been out for a while, but on the subject of wireless updates to existing small shapes, I'd love to hear your thoughts on the MM712 from Cooler Master. The 710/711 had horrible QC issues, but my copy of the 712 has been flawless since it launched in September, and I feel like the shape is super underrated. Also, at 70 bucks and 59 grams, I'd argue that the 712 is currently the budget king for value in a smaller wireless mice.
ive been using a viper mini for 3 years. its such a slap in the face to be waiting for a wireless version for this long and they drop this $300 mouse first. why would they drop the most expensive version when the original is less than $45. im still waiting for the viper mini ultimate. if its not out by the end of this year im done with anything razor. i could of bought so many other equivalent mice to what a normal viper mini wireless would be. im not dedicated to brands. i have no other razor products. i just LOVE the viper mini.
Yep it should have been launched along with the more sane version. I would expect a 54 or 55gram full shell version to be 149.99 similar to what best buy sells the V2 pro. 279.99 before tax is a hard pass for me specifically for a mouse that looks less comfortable with those huge holes.
@@Demon09-_- they count on gullible people -> impatient customers and people who dont know better (that a comparable cheaper version will release late), it's classic Razer marketing, akin to highend sneaker releases and such...
cuz it’ll give the impression that the $150 version coming later feel like a better deal than it otherwise would have been without this mouse as a reference point
im confused, razer didnt have an issue making this but theyve had constant issues making a regular ass viper mini ultimate? and what happened to razer not doing holes in their mice lol
Razer went all final mouse x.x.... and they are milking it. I bet they have a normal hard shell at a few grams extra weight 55g or so and it will be on best buy for the normal 149.99 price like the V2 pro.
Obviously that price is a very hard pill for me to swallow, but honestly I just wish they would’ve released this in tandem with a Viper mini V2 or something like that
I kinda agree that it's outrageous, but honestly, I wouldn't mind cus you're garunteed the QC will be perfect. Unlike FM where I feel like they cut corners to get the price low, enough.
@@aketchy4270 I can see that ab qc but with the finalmouse it's cheaper, not by alot but still. It's also lighter and has better battery life. I was hoping to get rid of my finalmouse, if I can sell it at the price of this mouse I may. But still an insane price.
@@Demon09-_- yeah, saving 5-7 grams for this monstrosity (sorry, i dont think its pretty at all) with THAT price compared to the solid shell version...some are gonna bite though
That is a PRICE TAG. Jesus. That said, this is easily the coolest looking mouse I have ever seen and if the QC is as high as yours for all units, they may still have a winner. This mouse clearly wasnt meant for everyone and while I think no mouse is worth $300, this is probably the closest offering we may get for a while. It checks all the boxes down to the 4k polling dongle, design, weight, everything. Its just a good product. Shame theres such a low yield because having something like this right at $200 would probably dominate the market - though that seems to be a trend with most Razer mice. Also this B-roll and backing track was sick. Really enjoyed this, but you know much I love your mouse content. Great vid as always Brian
Circuits exposed doesn't seem worth the price tag. I wouldn't buy a Ferrari if I knew it was missing the hood because they thought it made the car faster and sleeker.
Yo man. Glad your starting out the year strong. I was talking to Rambo and telling him how dry the end of Q4 was for gaming tech. ‘23 is looking like a crazy year for tech.
I've been using the Viper Ultimate for 2 years now, and if they came up with the regular size of these, I'd cop in an instant, just for the looks and shape alone
Thanks to global supply shortages in past 2 years, all gaming companies discovered how deep the pockets of gamers can get and now we are in extreme areas where almost nothing makes sense price wise. Sad.
This is total BS on Razers part, you have mice from HyperX like the PulseFire Haste, that cost 40$ for the wired and 50 for the wireless, and you're telling me they couldn't do the same thing ? Sorry but 300$ for a wireless mouse is just too much, especially when you look at the wired version that's like 40$ these days.I think this is some stupid marketing plan from them and if it's not, they are idiots.
everytime you say "comared to the wired" my body started shaking considering I bought the viper mini for 20 bucks and this shit is 14times more expensive than the wired one but as always great review
Yeah you can't knock someone for wanting to buy a Ferrari at a premium price but if Honda suddenly came out with a $600,000 dollar car that looks like a slightly nicer Civic you'd probably be scratching your head with the rest of us. What they should have done is release it along side a normal version that isn't made out of Magnesium but still has the rest of the upgrades at a normal price. The problem is they went with Magnesium. The notoriously difficult to machine/work with material is probably 80% of why the cost is this high because other than that I'm not seeing anything ground breaking or amazing here. I love my Viper Ultimate and I could easily afford the upgrade but I'm just not going to because there's literally 0 reasons to from where I'm sitting.
Make the holes magnetic so we can add magnetic shells that snap into place so we can build it like a puzzle for preferred weight and protection from dust
For me the best mouse is the Razer Basilisk V3 PRO. The weight is great. The size and perfect and the ergonomic shape is the winning point here. The fact that your thumb has somewhere to rest on is key. It doesn't drag all over the mouse pad and creating a friction point. Love the video as per usual!! Cheers
I would like to agree with you, the weight, shape, clicks, movement, everything was amazing, however for some reason that mouse hurt my hand I had to stop using it. (I'm a fingertip user)
I love the ergonomics and buttons on the basilisk, but the size and wieght are a no for me, it's great on mmos or any game I need the extra buttons, but fps, I'd rather have a lighter mouse. But if in the future there is a 50 - 70g wireless mini version of it, that I can use for fps too, you bet your ass that would be my perfect mouse.
i'll gladly buy a "discarded for not quite passing QC" because even if it's not up to the standards they're trying to uphold for the model, it's still a damn fine mouse it'd still be used the same way as an average mouse, but damn the looks and material are so unique
I have been using the Viper Ultimate for a while though over time my prefernces have changed. Ive ended up taking off the rubber grips and also permanently play without the back shell (like the piece that would hit your palm). I much prefer the mouse this way, its lighter and smaller. i kinda want a new mouse, but not a mouse that costs me €319. thats just foul
Any mouse priced above 200 bucks is just not worth it IMO. Beyond that price is just snake oil. Unless it has a 5+ years warranty for repairs, parts etc. then I'm listening.
When will they stop deleting the DPI buttons from the top of the mouse? G wolves is the only competitive shooter mouse manufacturer I know to still have a DPI button on top.
ill stick with anythiing with the updated sensor and under 150... i think some brands are really pushing pricing when it comes to 'lighter mice'... thank you for the review
7:25 I'm a mouse enthusiast. I have the means to get this mouse. But I will never buy it because it represents Razer drinking their own Kool-Aid and believing their own hype. I don't think we should be supporting companies when they start to do that.
I use a lightweight mouse which hexagonal holes on the shell and dust and dirt does get inside the mouse which I have to clean on a regular basses, this new Viper Mini man is gonna be a real nightmare to keep the inside of it super clean which those massive holes on the top shell.
DPI being below the mouse makes it eaasier for me in-game, most of the times i misclick the dpi button when using the scroll wheel and mess up the shot.
Looks almost like a downgrade from Viper Mini... DPI button is a must on top, personally would rather have it wired since already have payed premium for paracord cables and smaller mouse skates are just meh. I bet they are using the same garbage switch design for the middle mouse button which will start having issues in less than a year unless you give it monthly WD-40 baths.
@@1haunt : Doesn't need to be a DPI button, can remap it of course ... but one less button on top is unnecessary when it can clearly fit in there just like in the original version. But the bigger issue imo is the simple fact that they are still using normal switches for side and middle buttons instead of optical.
No matter how much you do to make. design, paint a gold shovel its still a shovel.....there so much option in the market these days that the commercial brands dont have much advantage at all.....viper mini was a budget king razer totally missed the mark the fact that they put massive holes on the pam area shows they dont know what made og viper mini great shape
I know the shape of the g903 was a little polarizing for some people, but I wonder if Logitech could come out with a full magnesium shell version of that mouse because I do like me some unusual mouse shapes and lightweight material.
Ngl, the holes and the price alone kinda turned me off about this mouse. One of my favorite mice that I’ve used and I’ve used many classic mice within a year… bought a g pro super light and a Deathadder V3 pro but nah…
This mouse isn't for the average consumer looking for a solid mouse. As he stated in the video, it's the ferrari or lamborghini of mice, it's the pinnacle of mouse performance right now. People at the top.01% skill level are who this mouse is for, and it's a glimpse of whats to come. I love it.
Another person noted that the side buttons have a ton of front/back movement on their unit, do the side buttons on your unit have that as well? My Viper V2 Pro has no movement in the side buttons and it's like hafe the cost haha. I like the idea of the magnesium shell, but like you and others have said, for the price the mouse should be perfect. Thanks in advance!
Good gawd i just wonder why this mouse is taking so long. How did it not come out a year or two ago is beyond me. I mean I guess I will wait for the official one that is more commerical because this price tag is a bit much despite the premium build and materials. The only problem I see is the scalpers buying whatever stock for this out and selling this on ebay for $400 or $500 like how they ALWAYS do with a Finalmouse drop.
I mean, honestly... i know the price is insane, theres no way around that. But i honestly didnt think any company was getting close to that finalmouse starlight in terms of paper specs. (even I prefer my viper 2 pro over my starlight LOL), but razer managed to do it somehow. Good on them, and those who are interested in mini wireless but dont want this one just have to wait. Sounds like a plan, sucks to wait, but uh yea, im enjoying this. If they full size it ill probably be buying another viper model, its been my favorite mouse of all time.
i want it so bad to replace my superlight pro as I went from viper mini to superlight. But all my razer mice(>5) had its scroll wheel malfunction within a year so its kinda hard to dish out so much cash...
Like I get that this has optical switches and some other things that make it superior to the starlight in a spec sense. But come on how in the hell do you justify this being $100 more than the starlight 12?!?!
I have owned 2 vipers ultimates. And both of them after about 6 months , scolling down every now and then would do a click up before continuing to scroll down. Will not be buying another
I like how the Viper Mini went from the best value/budget mouse on the market with the wired version, to a mouse that even makes Finalmouse say "Wait, HOW MUCH?" with this.
Like, I'm sure the tech and quality is great and it'll be loved by those who buy it, but man I wish they'd gone for a Viper Mini Ultimate first. This just seems so unbelievably niche at that pricetag.
Even tho I'ma prolly get this just cause, they confirmed 2 more versions are coming.
A "Pro" model variant probably like the Viper V2 Pro and DAV3, and a more mid range model in probably the 80ish range.
@@Shyvorix hopefully they dont cut out too many features from the cheapest wireless model
@@ItsTealv Of course they will cut out a lot of features. Use your head, Razer is a business, not a charity.
@@ItsTealv A few maybe but probably just 1k hz only, 3370 sensor, etc.
@AkatsukiSasuke923 Yea from a community and outside perspective it's fucked but from a business standpoint it's perfect.
UPDATE ABOUT SIDE BUTTONS HERE - th-cam.com/users/shortsRnIg4sP_xGo?feature=share
For me, the only way this works is if the QC is untouchable and based on what we're seeing, thats not looking like the case.
***Ok my bad - its actually $279.99. Not sure that changes the convo much, but my bad nonetheless lol***
ahh 280 dollars sounds like a deal
289 after tax. There, Fixed it for you.
I think it should be $299.99. I mean, why not?
@@Hakka2424 depending on your state it's probably close to 300 after tax
All good - its 319.99€ here in EU lol
Idk, I feel like Razer is really reaching for unnecessary heights with the recent prices of their mice. $290 for large production mouse? Too much room for error and you see that with your model off the bat.
ppl keep buying so they will continue to do it. just look at nvidia, they saw ppl paying ridiculous amount for gpus so they price them high now .
Razer announced that there will only be around 1700 units for every batches, quite limited actually. If this is too much, just wait for the plastic version to come out a few months later
@@z4k1_zaki65 1700 is not "quite limited" for a single batch lol
@@vertuh9165 There are hundreds of countries, if you divide it equally then each country would only get around 20-50 units. Look at this way, Razer sells about 15 million units of the deathadder every year, this is only 1700 per batch. The main reason why the price is high is because the magnesium manufacturing is really tough and complex, which bumps up the QC process.
This is also the first time a major company is doing magnesium mouses. If they can successfully master it, they can produce more and lower the overall price.
Thats how people are. So many people complain about Finalmouse quality control, yet they still sell out in less than five minutes. On top of that, people pay scalper prices for the mouse too.
Kinda wish they did this but with a shape designed specifically for those cut outs ... something about the rounded nature of the Viper doesn't quite suit it, but could be awesome with something else.
Great video as always!
Thanks man! I don't mind it so much as my hand doesn't really make contact with the shell, but it could definitely be a comfort issue for some.
This man needs to be at 1M subs ASAP! Phenomenal review and presentation. 👏
Whoa! it's Clackbait!
Couldn't agree more
My man! 🤜🏼🤛🏼
The beard alone needs that many subs, the content is just a bonus.
@@chieftain9 Strong agree! haha
It's cool to see Magnesium from a big company like Razer. Hopefully Logitech will do something new soon too. It's been a while.
Logitech do anything innovative?
lmao
@@placeholder3863 well seeing as the majority of companies took 2 years to catch up...yeah...Logitech
@Place Holder sadly not in recent memories (the only thing they made recently is the LGBTUVXYZ+++ mouse (G705), a refresh of their popular casual gaming mice (G502X), and more GPX colorway)
But still let's not forget they pioneer the first flawless gaming mice sensor with their collab with pixart resulting in their PMW3366 (PMW3366 considered by many people including me as the first "flawless" gaming mice sensor, even Zowie still uses its public variant (3360) on their wired C series), the first gaming-grade wireless tech (first seen on G900), and the first lightweight wireless gaming mice which is viable even at the highest level of competitive circuit (GPW) combining their wireless tech, very efficient Hero sensor (so it can use smaller and lighter battery. Even 4 years later, Hero sensor still considered as most efficient gaming mice sensor. Its performance is now beaten by the likes of Razer's 3399 and 3950 tho), and great overall design (at that point in time)
@@AleksPlaysMc Just so ya know, sweat and dust are a non-issue with mice as long as you just simply got a can (or blower) of compressed air and a light brush. It won't actually do damage to the mouse unless you have hyperhidrosis (but you should just never use anything holed and have a protected keyboard at that point). Though it's odd, I don't mind this style of holes mice but hate the normal holed mice but prolly cause I've seen millions of them by now.
Logitech wont make this.
Their approach always industrial design.
Thank you for doing an actual review on this mouse and going over it with a lot of detail. The other vids I have seen so far seem to be just ads for this piece of hardware.
RandomCommercialP?
I know it's been out for a while, but on the subject of wireless updates to existing small shapes, I'd love to hear your thoughts on the MM712 from Cooler Master. The 710/711 had horrible QC issues, but my copy of the 712 has been flawless since it launched in September, and I feel like the shape is super underrated. Also, at 70 bucks and 59 grams, I'd argue that the 712 is currently the budget king for value in a smaller wireless mice.
ive been using a viper mini for 3 years. its such a slap in the face to be waiting for a wireless version for this long and they drop this $300 mouse first. why would they drop the most expensive version when the original is less than $45. im still waiting for the viper mini ultimate. if its not out by the end of this year im done with anything razor. i could of bought so many other equivalent mice to what a normal viper mini wireless would be. im not dedicated to brands. i have no other razor products. i just LOVE the viper mini.
Yep it should have been launched along with the more sane version. I would expect a 54 or 55gram full shell version to be 149.99 similar to what best buy sells the V2 pro. 279.99 before tax is a hard pass for me specifically for a mouse that looks less comfortable with those huge holes.
@@Demon09-_- they count on gullible people -> impatient customers and people who dont know better (that a comparable cheaper version will release late), it's classic Razer marketing, akin to highend sneaker releases and such...
cuz it’ll give the impression that the $150 version coming later feel like a better deal than it otherwise would have been without this mouse as a reference point
Insane mouse, definitely excited for the regular Viper Mini Wireless to drop in the coming months.
Any idea when the normal version would be dropping ?
Yeah, about that...
im confused, razer didnt have an issue making this but theyve had constant issues making a regular ass viper mini ultimate? and what happened to razer not doing holes in their mice lol
Razer went all final mouse x.x.... and they are milking it. I bet they have a normal hard shell at a few grams extra weight 55g or so and it will be on best buy for the normal 149.99 price like the V2 pro.
3:46 Yup, we are hearing at the pioneer of "Custom mechanical mice" kinda stuff.
Obviously that price is a very hard pill for me to swallow, but honestly I just wish they would’ve released this in tandem with a Viper mini V2 or something like that
Good content Btw i just checked ur channel 😄
At the price of $279.99 USD no way. I will wait for the normal mini at a more normal price.
Man I have been waiting for the viper mini wireless, unlike most people I kinda like the design. Though for that price point its insane.
Id rather pay that much for Pwnage Stormbreaker series. 49g vs 53g is not much a big difference on my end.
I kinda agree that it's outrageous, but honestly, I wouldn't mind cus you're garunteed the QC will be perfect. Unlike FM where I feel like they cut corners to get the price low, enough.
@@aketchy4270 I can see that ab qc but with the finalmouse it's cheaper, not by alot but still. It's also lighter and has better battery life. I was hoping to get rid of my finalmouse, if I can sell it at the price of this mouse I may. But still an insane price.
Intro felt like a MKBHD video really high quality videos man ♥️
Damn that's a big compliment. TYSM
hard pass on this. the solid shell pro version with 4k hz like the viper v2/dav3 is the move. sick review as always!
Same I will wait for the solid shell that weighs a few more grams and cost less.
@@Demon09-_- yeah, saving 5-7 grams for this monstrosity (sorry, i dont think its pretty at all) with THAT price compared to the solid shell version...some are gonna bite though
on your 500k sub mission hope you get it, my favorite reviewer
Dam the day after Finalmouse announce their new carbon glass coming out this year - honestly the day they release a magnesium alloy baselisk I'm game.
BadSeed always keeping it real with the honest reviews
That is a PRICE TAG. Jesus.
That said, this is easily the coolest looking mouse I have ever seen and if the QC is as high as yours for all units, they may still have a winner. This mouse clearly wasnt meant for everyone and while I think no mouse is worth $300, this is probably the closest offering we may get for a while. It checks all the boxes down to the 4k polling dongle, design, weight, everything. Its just a good product. Shame theres such a low yield because having something like this right at $200 would probably dominate the market - though that seems to be a trend with most Razer mice.
Also this B-roll and backing track was sick. Really enjoyed this, but you know much I love your mouse content. Great vid as always Brian
The mouse looks amazing but so does the video! You did a banger job with the production here Brian
Thanks so much, I really appreciate it
You can get a Pulsar X2 + Lamzu Atlantis + XM2we for that price!?!?
cleaning this must be a nightmare for people who have a lot of dust in their room :D
Before anyone says anything, keep in mind this is the full metal version of the viper mini.
Plastic ones are coming soon.
Circuits exposed doesn't seem worth the price tag. I wouldn't buy a Ferrari if I knew it was missing the hood because they thought it made the car faster and sleeker.
Yo man. Glad your starting out the year strong. I was talking to Rambo and telling him how dry the end of Q4 was for gaming tech. ‘23 is looking like a crazy year for tech.
How come it only 49g with that holes when there other mouse with full shell is on same weight lol.
Because it must have large battery to support 4k and optical switches.
@@lepari9986 they should make wired version with a 8Ghz polling rate.
I've been using the Viper Ultimate for 2 years now, and if they came up with the regular size of these, I'd cop in an instant, just for the looks and shape alone
"No creaking, no flexing, no nothing." - I see what you did there xD
300 Bucks... We've gone too far, burn it all down.
Hope they release the budget version, I mean the "real" RVM wireless that majority of us are waiting for a long time.
Two more versions is coming i hope one of those will include a viper mini wired 8khz
Thanks to global supply shortages in past 2 years, all gaming companies discovered how deep the pockets of gamers can get and now we are in extreme areas where almost nothing makes sense price wise. Sad.
This is total BS on Razers part, you have mice from HyperX like the PulseFire Haste, that cost 40$ for the wired and 50 for the wireless, and you're telling me they couldn't do the same thing ? Sorry but 300$ for a wireless mouse is just too much, especially when you look at the wired version that's like 40$ these days.I think this is some stupid marketing plan from them and if it's not, they are idiots.
everytime you say "comared to the wired" my body started shaking
considering I bought the viper mini for 20 bucks
and this shit is 14times more expensive than the wired one
but as always great review
I love this guy reviews (and beard) but I mainly play CoD so I’ve become a traitor and bought a controller, and I’m loving the consistency
So... Its basically a finalmouse?
I wonder when someone is gonna make sapphire crystal skates. Should be amazing even if a bit pricy
I think Infinity Mouse has sapphire dots
Yeah you can't knock someone for wanting to buy a Ferrari at a premium price but if Honda suddenly came out with a $600,000 dollar car that looks like a slightly nicer Civic you'd probably be scratching your head with the rest of us. What they should have done is release it along side a normal version that isn't made out of Magnesium but still has the rest of the upgrades at a normal price. The problem is they went with Magnesium. The notoriously difficult to machine/work with material is probably 80% of why the cost is this high because other than that I'm not seeing anything ground breaking or amazing here. I love my Viper Ultimate and I could easily afford the upgrade but I'm just not going to because there's literally 0 reasons to from where I'm sitting.
I’m not a Mouse Guy, but man this mouse is fucking sexy.
This is $400 in Australia. What the actual fuck. I just imported a FM last legend for less then that.
Make the holes magnetic so we can add magnetic shells that snap into place so we can build it like a puzzle for preferred weight and protection from dust
Oh boy big fat badseed video. Also stoked for your upcoming switches
I feel like at this point we are at "Let's see how much these idiots will actually pay for a mouse."
For me the best mouse is the Razer Basilisk V3 PRO. The weight is great. The size and perfect and the ergonomic shape is the winning point here. The fact that your thumb has somewhere to rest on is key. It doesn't drag all over the mouse pad and creating a friction point. Love the video as per usual!! Cheers
I would like to agree with you, the weight, shape, clicks, movement, everything was amazing, however for some reason that mouse hurt my hand I had to stop using it. (I'm a fingertip user)
I love the ergonomics and buttons on the basilisk, but the size and wieght are a no for me, it's great on mmos or any game I need the extra buttons, but fps, I'd rather have a lighter mouse. But if in the future there is a 50 - 70g wireless mini version of it, that I can use for fps too, you bet your ass that would be my perfect mouse.
i'll gladly buy a "discarded for not quite passing QC" because even if it's not up to the standards they're trying to uphold for the model, it's still a damn fine mouse
it'd still be used the same way as an average mouse, but damn the looks and material are so unique
The wait continues for the plastic no holes version
I have been using the Viper Ultimate for a while though over time my prefernces have changed.
Ive ended up taking off the rubber grips and also permanently play without the back shell (like the piece that would hit your palm). I much prefer the mouse this way, its lighter and smaller.
i kinda want a new mouse, but not a mouse that costs me €319. thats just foul
Over here in germany we need to pay 350$ for it 💀💀
They should seriously plan on making a deathadder mini wireless. The wired one I use is perfect for me
As someone that bought the RAT X3 pro…. I appreciate this mouse.
It should really have a longer warranty. Like at least 5 or 6 years. 3 seems shitty when it's this expensive.
Any mouse priced above 200 bucks is just not worth it IMO. Beyond that price is just snake oil.
Unless it has a 5+ years warranty for repairs, parts etc. then I'm listening.
Ur b roll and music is on point big dawg!
I will always remember when you recommend the orochi v2 against a gpro superlight
When will they stop deleting the DPI buttons from the top of the mouse? G wolves is the only competitive shooter mouse manufacturer I know to still have a DPI button on top.
ill stick with anythiing with the updated sensor and under 150... i think some brands are really pushing pricing when it comes to 'lighter mice'... thank you for the review
Dude your music is always on point. I like your take on things too. Great videao!
Thanks so much, man. Appreciate you.
wow that price tag... more than a final mouse nice.
7:25 I'm a mouse enthusiast. I have the means to get this mouse. But I will never buy it because it represents Razer drinking their own Kool-Aid and believing their own hype. I don't think we should be supporting companies when they start to do that.
Thanks for this review, I really thought you would pan it.
6:53 - This isn't a conversation of "is it worth it"
Title of video: iS It wOrTH iT ?
😂😂😂
Lol yup, that’s the joke
@@badseedtech I knew you were messing with us. Bought mice and keyboards based on your recommendations. Love your videos. Keep it up.
You can't sell the 4k dongle separately, it's locked to the signature edition.
Bros beard is FIREEE
If this thing was like $279.99 CAD I would buy it but jeez louise $379.99 not a chance
Man the production value on this video was insane. Really enjoyed this one even though there's no way I'm getting one of these mice
the fact that they managed to make a mouse thock is crazy
What keyboard are you using, looks great. Thank you.
I use a lightweight mouse which hexagonal holes on the shell and dust and dirt does get inside the mouse which I have to clean on a regular basses, this new Viper Mini man is gonna be a real nightmare to keep the inside of it super clean which those massive holes on the top shell.
DPI being below the mouse makes it eaasier for me in-game, most of the times i misclick the dpi button when using the scroll wheel and mess up the shot.
Looks almost like a downgrade from Viper Mini... DPI button is a must on top, personally would rather have it wired since already have payed premium for paracord cables and smaller mouse skates are just meh. I bet they are using the same garbage switch design for the middle mouse button which will start having issues in less than a year unless you give it monthly WD-40 baths.
DPI button on top isn't a must at all lmao
@@1haunt : Doesn't need to be a DPI button, can remap it of course ... but one less button on top is unnecessary when it can clearly fit in there just like in the original version. But the bigger issue imo is the simple fact that they are still using normal switches for side and middle buttons instead of optical.
No matter how much you do to make. design, paint a gold shovel its still a shovel.....there so much option in the market these days that the commercial brands dont have much advantage at all.....viper mini was a budget king razer totally missed the mark the fact that they put massive holes on the pam area shows they dont know what made og viper mini great shape
Does it has the classic usb receiver ? For on the go ? Or Bluetooth?
I know the shape of the g903 was a little polarizing for some people, but I wonder if Logitech could come out with a full magnesium shell version of that mouse because I do like me some unusual mouse shapes and lightweight material.
Still using the g903. Absolutely love it!
Hey Brian,
What chair and color are u using? It looks like Secretlab.
deletion of the dpi on top? that's a big one for me tbh. this price is absurd there no way I'd consider it
side button is a step back
What keyboard are you using in this video? Thanks!
I had the Razer Viper Ultimate for many years, and it just started to cause disconnection problems.
Us: Where's that mouse everyone wants from Razer?
Razer: $300
Looks amazing. Great video Ty!
Ngl, the holes and the price alone kinda turned me off about this mouse. One of my favorite mice that I’ve used and I’ve used many classic mice within a year… bought a g pro super light and a Deathadder V3 pro but nah…
This mouse isn't for the average consumer looking for a solid mouse. As he stated in the video, it's the ferrari or lamborghini of mice, it's the pinnacle of mouse performance right now. People at the top.01% skill level are who this mouse is for, and it's a glimpse of whats to come. I love it.
$300 is simply not worth it.
Another person noted that the side buttons have a ton of front/back movement on their unit, do the side buttons on your unit have that as well? My Viper V2 Pro has no movement in the side buttons and it's like hafe the cost haha. I like the idea of the magnesium shell, but like you and others have said, for the price the mouse should be perfect.
Thanks in advance!
waiting for that Superglide Glass Mousepad review
Right now the non-1337 number version has a better QC, but still there are minor issues.
Good gawd i just wonder why this mouse is taking so long. How did it not come out a year or two ago is beyond me. I mean I guess I will wait for the official one that is more commerical because this price tag is a bit much despite the premium build and materials. The only problem I see is the scalpers buying whatever stock for this out and selling this on ebay for $400 or $500 like how they ALWAYS do with a Finalmouse drop.
I mean, honestly... i know the price is insane, theres no way around that. But i honestly didnt think any company was getting close to that finalmouse starlight in terms of paper specs. (even I prefer my viper 2 pro over my starlight LOL), but razer managed to do it somehow. Good on them, and those who are interested in mini wireless but dont want this one just have to wait. Sounds like a plan, sucks to wait, but uh yea, im enjoying this. If they full size it ill probably be buying another viper model, its been my favorite mouse of all time.
Straight up wish the Logitech would come out with a G915 60% wireless keyboard to pair with this. It would be such a sick setup.
yall spend the same amount on a final mouse but scoff a razer? weird
No, we scoff at both. And this even more expensive than the shit that Finalmouse produces.
As a user of viper mini and viper ultimate, I need 1 more button on the mouse 😞...
should i get this or the starlight 12 please lmk!!!
The price tag for this is completely unreasonable its just another Finalmouse Esque money grab
I love his New York accent
How the heck do you set a default mouse profile in synapse 3?
i want it so bad to replace my superlight pro as I went from viper mini to superlight. But all my razer mice(>5) had its scroll wheel malfunction within a year so its kinda hard to dish out so much cash...
Like I get that this has optical switches and some other things that make it superior to the starlight in a spec sense. But come on how in the hell do you justify this being $100 more than the starlight 12?!?!
I have owned 2 vipers ultimates. And both of them after about 6 months , scolling down every now and then would do a click up before continuing to scroll down. Will not be buying another