So many times he's in power. Since 2006-2022 as Prime minister 4 times, and as President 2 times. It's said that power corrupts, but actually it's more true that power attracts the corruptible. The sane are usually attracted by other things than power.
At first they protested Prabowo as indonesia presendential candidate but once Prabowo they had no other option but to congratulate him as beggars can't choose.
What are you on about. Who do you think are the biggest donor nations on the planet. They are all western countries. Who funds the majority of the UN. Western countries. Tell me how you came to your point of view as it's astonishingly bad.
@@plebius The biggest donors were the biggest pirates not long ago. Obviously they wrote the rules. What are you talking aboiut? Aid? - Colonize, plunder and give aid ! - Its like France squeezes 14 CFA countries in Africa and then gives them aid.😂 - Its like US pounds Palestine and Drops food supplies to Rafah too😂 - Pushed Ukraine into war saying "Cause" of freedom ..but for the last 2 yrs have been busy in analysis of "Effect"- what will be seen as escalation? 😂
@@vladnickul any small country around a big country would afraid this big country; they would asking foreign force to counterfront this big country. just like Estonia recently, they even ask putin to kneel to Estonia flag. you call this Estonia see Russia as a threat? or Estonia wants to rule Russia?
@@jatentechno9273kemiskinam di tomor leste tdk sama dgn Indonesia kemiskinam yg hidup di bawa kolong jembatan di Indonesia 🇮🇩 dan pengemis di pinggir jalan meminta2 broo.....
Australia stole their oil lol. They used to dream once they have indipendence they become next Singapore or next Brunei because in their dream their oil is very rich. Now they are the poorest country on earth.
As an American I appreciate when others speak respectfully in disagreement. The president seems quite thoughtful and good to learn more about what he is saying. Good luck to his country.
What a statement Ramos, East Timor won independence due to Indonesian reform, the Indonesian military chose democrazy instead military dictatorship. The change in Indonesia and US that allowed TL independence. And also Aussie want the oil in timor gap..😂
And after the 1999 Refurendum Indonésia goverment, military and militas attracked and killed Timorese who wanted freedom aka they didnt really wanted Timor to be free
16:28 he skipped questions about the corruption issues. Indications exist that corruption may have reached the very core of East Timor’s leadership. Some alleged cases have originated in the office of the prime minister.
East Timor had a colonial mentality. We shouldn't learn from them. Ask other countries in the South East Asia region who fought the colonialism and imperialism for a long time then got independence. Already proved it struggled in vary difficult situations and periods.
why US totally support Indonesia to against Fratelin party (Timor Leste now). because in cold war era against communist socialist. at the time Indonesia is very anti-communist. at the time Fretelin is just like Cuba socialist communist. but today the world has change there is no more ideology issue
Also they are 4 parties wanted to join Indonesia which acttually majority natives but it just the Portuguese descent cannot accept that they wanted to become a king in a small poor nation.
@@paulzhang1310 Soeharto backed by US just like zelensky at the time. USA is very anti Soekarno because he close political ally with communist party so called PKI. and war in timor leste is profit for US military industrial complex and anti-communist agenda on cold war era
Portugal (de jure) as administrator never recognized East Timor independence in 1975 nor the Integration of East Timor to Indonesia. They left East Timor, there was vacuum power then. Meanwhile (de facto) East Timor integrated into Indonesia as their province, with (de jure) willingness of East Timorese people represented by major alliance parties. The United Nation still recognized Portugal as the administrator during Decolonization process in East Timor. Until the restoration day of independence of East Timor in 2000.
@@joaobaptista8377 in 1975 when there was a civil war. Portugal abandoned East Timor. Knowing that Decolonization process which sets out to change the order of the world, is clearly an agenda for total disorder. Portugal colonial tactics.
Some Indonesians may still harbor a (post)colonial attitude towards the East Timorese. However, many Indonesian activists & students in the pro-democracy movement were also actively supporting Timor Leste's independence in the 1990s - thanks to the number of Timor Leste students who were studying at Indonesian universities in the 1990s, who disclosed the atrocities committed by the Indonesian military. Even part of Ramos Horta's maternal family has roots in neighboring Kisar island (in Indonesia's Maluku province). So Timor Leste's relation with Indonesia has more nuances than imagined by those the West.
@@paulzhang1310 According to 2024 data published by Indonesia, TL, and EU the number of TL citizens in Indonesia is at 26.000 people, roughly 1 percent of TL current population. Half of them are TL students studying in cities like Jakarta, Bandung, Yogyakarta, Surabaya, and Denpasar. While the other half has called Indonesia as their second home thanks to their marriage with Indonesian citizen driving them to stay in Indonesia or simply because now they are now working in Indonesia.
Didn’t you heard what already said by Ramos, he said, East Timor won independence due to Indonesian reform, the Indonesian military chose democrazy instead military dictatorship. The change in Indonesia and US that allowed TL independence.
They had a decent partner in achieving that. The Indonesian civil society, at that time, were very strong and united. It has a clear enemy, Soeharto. The Timorese are their allies, almost brother in arms, not enemies. They, the civil society and media, managed to convince the influential echelon of military to at least not go against them and by that, the courses of history. The Israeli civil society just cannot see that they're on the wrong side of history by keep on supporting Netanyahu and his bloodthirsty cabinet.
The joke abt ramos horta 1. Timor Leste will become the 2nd dubai and the 2nd singapore in SEA 2. Tibar port in timor leste is the best port in Pasific ocean. Meanwhile singapore : pardon? 3. Timor leste have 1000 doctor, meanwhile theyre facility of hospital is not modern and not complete 4. Claim that Timor Leste is The best democration country in SEA 5. He saying Doesnt need indonesia helped when Timor Leste win of voting free from indinesia, but now he always come to indonesia, need a beg from Indonesia, and says that "Im a big fan of Soekarno" like whatttt??
Baru kemarin kami mengajak Germany untuk berinvestasi di Indonesia. dan muncul interview ini. rasanya seperti kami sedang di selidiki 😂 silakan tanya sepuasnya kepada seluruh tetangga kami.
@@susuedamameee , Time Singapore reviews her stand as TL 's small population shouldn't be a burden to the current ASEAN members whose revenues have improved considerably; this is especially so with Singapore and Brunei.
Good president . And this reporter are trying to get him hook up. Sometime I just hate reporters trying to find faults and trying to get those leaders to side one side
22 years of independence the only thing they can brag is their unqualified number of doctors they sent to study in Cuba. Stunting poverty unemloyement are still the highest in Asia pacific.
I've seen countries that have got their independence for almost 50 years yet they are still under peverty, east Timor just 22 years old boy, still long way to go and itu is too early to aply such level to east timor, i visited and stayed in some country that already on their independence for almost about 45 years but they were still experiencing things like what Timor leste is experiencing now..
Nobody thanked BJ Habibie for making all these reforms which currently also benefited indonesia. If Indonesians have chosen him for another term, it would be a vastly differrent country by now.
But unfortunately his carreer is doomed, he even did not able to win any grassroot support when the parlement seriously punish him with impeachment as the most immidiate aftermath of TL independence.
@@joaobaptista8377 Because Indonesians already can see since the very beginning when Indonesia estabilish rule in there and untill the last day its going out from Indonesia, TL would never able to be standing on its own feet with or without very generous amount of money injected to that place. And it can be seen also today where Indonesians can see blatantly that TL even can't built their own refinery and kept relying on Indonesia to supply them with fuel untill today, 20+ years after they decide to say goodbye with Indonesia
@@joaobaptista8377 Tell me again mister portuguese consquistador, why on earth when Indonesia arrived at TL, all they can see from east to west is a neglected colony that barely have any signs of civilizations??
Brothers and sisters of Timor Leste, I am happy that you are getting more and more support. I remember fondly how one of your people visited my school all those years ago. As someone from an older nation with the oldest china town in the world, I'd like to offer some advise: please be careful with anything that comes from the administration of Xi as his gifts are all poisoned. There are wonderful people from mainland china but the CCP under Xi is turning further away from the values of the people.
No matter how cruel Indonesia is, no matter how kind Europe is. Indonesia is still more trustworthy than Europe. Remember: it was not Indonesia that set foot in Timor Leste for hundreds of years.
Such a liar he did not mentioned that their own people 4 parties to be exact that wanted to join indonesia and only 1 party wanted to be independent. They killed civilians and soldier captured were killed by throwing them from a cliff. Indonesia let them go because want to let go an economic burden. They praise indonesia alot today because they are economically dependent to Indonesia and wanted to join ASEAN.
@@SergioLopes-be8rm i was not born yet and i am not timorese and i do.a lot of reseach on why timorese wanted to be independence. Most Timorese leaders are Portuguese descent they are racist and cannot stand being under the rule of asian people. Even Xanana said if timor leste had not been independence he would have been a fish seller instead of president. Independence is just a personal ambition of timor leste Portuguese descent leaders. Most timorese realized that today that since breakway from Indonesia they got even poorer than before. Everything is more expensive as all are imported while wages are stagnant since independence.
Just compare the real condition of Timor Leste before 1999 and now, you Will know that there are huge different between the condition under Indonesia and after independence.
@@SergioLopes-be8rmokay, I'll compare Indonesia, Timor Leste (or East Timor), and NTT (Indonesian province next to Timor Leste). GDP/GRP PPP per capita 1995 Indonesia: $ 4,490 East Timor: $ 1,632 NTT: $ 1,555 2010 Indonesia: $ 8,430 Timor Leste: $ 1,948 NTT: $ 2,788 2024 Indonesia: $ 16,861 Timor Leste: $ 3,767 NTT: $ 4,853 Note that Timor Leste economy was boosted by oil export in mid 00s until it's almost depleted now, on average it funded 80% of their govt budget. While NTT main economy is tourism, agriculture, and mining. So your statement that there's a "huge difference" before & after their independence is just non sense. They are now lagging behind NTT when they used to be slightly better in 1995. Which is actually expected from a new country like them, and it does reflect in the actual stats and data.
The Difference with Indonesia is they let you join in Republic give East Timor support their life, theach, even give treat and love more and Indonesia don't take your oil. Economicly poor even their oil are going to empty very soon, their is'nt territorialy strategic, dry land bad for farming and human resource not like Singapore. Asean doesnt need them ! anyway. Just suggest! they should give China base for millitary for them to survive and just pray Australia doesnt attack!
What a pity to our brother in Timor Leste. They will be suffered in poverty forever. Timor Leste has no resources, they has nothing. everything are imported from outside. The only resource they have is only oil, which are start to drying out within a few years. Even now, the output from their oil are insufficient to cost their own life.. I wonder how timor leste will facing the future ?
@@greedyinvader9462Actually former NATO chief openly said, after finish with Russia, they will move to take care China. AND they keep on telling everyone NATO is a defensive bloc😂
@@plebius You are brainwash by western media , selectively showing you the news. 2023-06-16 Former NATO Secretary-General Rasmussen: Only after we "fix" Russia , we can focus our resources on dealing with China.
Some countries spent much money for war, why don't they talk about peace and gave the money to poor countries to develop their country? Not competing but to help others.
This is called "indirect begging" Wkwkwkwk. Which rich/big country would be crazy and want to give away theyre money for free just because that big country feels sorry for a poor country? So what's the point of having a poor country with a government that is struggling to increase GDP? Try harder/Work harder PLSSSS. Dont beg
If your country need helps, call volunteers😂😂😂 so they can go to your provert country, and give your country a package of water, rice, fruits, books, vegetables, corn, and money for your lifestyle😂😂😂😂😂😂
The west should put their money where their mouth is. Help this country by investing and building their infrastructure. Then he won't need China's help. Don't just think of selling weapons.
They are in desperate finansial situation, poorest country in the region, oil has gone and now living on decreasing oil savings. Going around to foreign countries with begging bowls.
there is a huge difference between freedom fighters and terrorists. one fight well armed equipped armies, the other fight unarmed women children elderly and civilians.
At the end, it depends on this Jose guy’s thoughts on how much RMB he can get for his own pocket from CCP China, not the actual benefits of his people! Look at Sri Lanka, Pakistan, etc those poor countries joining Beijing’s Belt n Road Initiatives
If the west had done a better job, they wouldn’t have run to the Chinese. The Chinese only got rich in the 2000’s. Before that the west had all the chance to help them. Even now, the west has the chance to help Haiti, Nicaragua, Gabon etc etc. There are so many countries that need help… China can help some, USA can help some, Eu can help others…
These poor countries do much better than if they relied on IMF or World Bank or America. Most of their very bad debt are actually with the West. It is a fa that Sri Lanka's debt with China is only about 10%. The rest are to ' your good friends ' who you seem to support and admire. Stop politicking please.
He was member of Fretelin party in 1970's. And Fretilin close to MPRF (Movimento Reorganizativo do Partido do Proletariado) affiliated with Maoist. Beside all the founding fathers of Timor Leste was educated in Macao, China.
Timor Leste can gain Independence from Indonesia because Indons are generally not antagonistic, fair and just to any religions. The Indonesia Government and diverse Indons recognised and accepted Islam, Buddhism, Christianity, Taoism & Conficuism as their national and official religions. Generally Indons by their great nusantaran culture and civilization are progressive, harmonious, accommodating & peaceful. 😊
Very intelligent guy, and seems to be a good statesman for a budding small state. Wisely all his focus is on people. To develop a country, the KPI is to develop your own people. For international relationship, look for friendship, not to look for enemies which is a game DW love to play. He can even handle the idiotic derogatory questions asked by this condescending "journalist", to make friend with him.
It seems the western journalist (the 4th column a.k.a the media) tried so hard to divide countries in South East Asia. Last time was the Malaysian PM was asked about China present in the region and forced to choose between U.S + Allies or China.
He got shot by his own due to his poor leadership timor leste economy is in shabbles always come begging to Indonesia. That is why He is praising Indonesia a lot and congratulate Prabowo too scared.
The USA encouraged Europe to join the fight in Ukraine, America cut off Russian gas exports to Europe and replaced it with higher gas prices. USA or West, there are no free meals, Bro.....now Europe's largest economy, England, Germany is collapsing because energy costs are more expensive. This is just politics... no, this is also profit. Your country is small enough to be treated like this
Then, let USA in and sell you military's hardware but NO INVESTMENT in infrastructure for nation building. With the hidden hands of USA, your President would dance to the tune of USA if not, there would be a regime change like in Latin America, Iraq, Libya etc
That is more like the US. Can't even fool anyone sane. China has not occupied any country outside of what originally belongs to China. Whereas the US has gone to war and/or occupied in Vietnam, Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan, Middle East, Africa, Latin America and many more. Basically all over the world. Think first before talking nonsense as it only shows your lack of knowledge or with hidden agenda.
@@EasternKalogeros Do you believe these Western media? Evidently, these Western Media have not even mentioned a good deed about China but a THREAT to the world peace but Americans are the defenders of the democracy and human rights. USA is complicit in genocide with Israel in Gazza, put up Military Base from Korea, Japan, Philippines but Philippines is economically in dire state. The President-elect, Probowo has a hand in the deadly crack down of Timor East and the infamous "killings of Indonesian Chinese" - all these did not merit a mention in the Western Media. If you don't subscribe to the ideals of the West and USA, you are doomed to be sanctioned "THREATS" to the world peace. Similarly, USA is loosing her cutting edge in green technologies like solar panels, electrical vehicles and batteries whereby you and I could have better and cheaper goods and services but "overcapacity" is coined and pretext to impose taxes onto these. so, USA is the saviour of the earth?
Weird hearing him that hamas is extremist while he was considered separatist (extremist) before Timor Leste Independence. While the occupied force Indonesia was bad, but he legitimate the occupied force israel. He is inconsistent in this issue.
You want the colonialists to come rob Timor instead as they had robbed the world for 500 years and are still doing it? What sort of good move is that - short term and long term.
I think you should pay more attention to the poverty and hunger in your "own home" because every day Indonesian border guards always arrest East Timorese who enter Indonesia illegally.
So many times he's in power. Since 2006-2022 as Prime minister 4 times, and as President 2 times. It's said that power corrupts, but actually it's more true that power attracts the corruptible. The sane are usually attracted by other things than power.
@merdk u mention something didnot base on the fact, he's never in a prime minister till now
@@fomorischannel on 10 July 2006, he was sworn in as the second Prime Minister of East Timor. Your ignorance is a bliss.
This DW jourlist did not expect the answer about the new Indonesian President
At first they protested Prabowo as indonesia presendential candidate but once Prabowo they had no other option but to congratulate him as beggars can't choose.
only simpleton, believe this was not scripted beforehand
The new Indonésia president participated in the occupation and genocide of the Timorese btw@@DaengKulle795
Thank you , your comments had slapped gently and peacefully to all parties you mentioned....Love it...
Westerners opinion: All projects that are invested in by Chinese are bad but they don't come for invest or helping poor country
When the west talk negative about you, it means you are doing the right thing for yourself.
What are you on about. Who do you think are the biggest donor nations on the planet. They are all western countries. Who funds the majority of the UN. Western countries. Tell me how you came to your point of view as it's astonishingly bad.
@@plebius The biggest donors were the biggest pirates not long ago. Obviously they wrote the rules. What are you talking aboiut? Aid?
- Colonize, plunder and give aid !
- Its like France squeezes 14 CFA countries in Africa and then gives them aid.😂
- Its like US pounds Palestine and Drops food supplies to Rafah too😂
- Pushed Ukraine into war saying "Cause" of freedom ..but for the last 2 yrs have been busy in analysis of "Effect"- what will be seen as escalation? 😂
@@emotionalIntelligence2078 so much wrong with your message. It's incredible. There is not one thing correct in it.
Westerners are describing themselves.
the dude tried so hard to fish negative remark about Indonesia but the president keep pointing out that it's not really like that lol
Because he knew how to live under the western portuguese occupation as well.. not just being robbed, but religious & cultural conversions
Love from Brazil 🇧🇷 to our irmãos do Timor-Leste 🇹🇱❤
wise leader don’t see China as a threat
:)))))))))))))))))
ask any chinese neighbor
@@vladnickul any small country around a big country would afraid this big country; they would asking foreign force to counterfront this big country. just like Estonia recently, they even ask putin to kneel to Estonia flag. you call this Estonia see Russia as a threat? or Estonia wants to rule Russia?
@@jianyang6281 boyo, you should read your comment, because you don't make any sense. :)
are you a wumao, because that explains the lack of logic?
@@vladnickul maybe Pakistan agree with you
China is the troublemaker of West Philippine sea. Stop stealing our islands. Stop encroaching on our EEZ. China must respect UNCLOS as a signatory!!!
He is the only president who speaks out deeply about my country (Myanmar 🇲🇲)
We'll never forget you Timor🇹🇱❤
Yeah right but on the real action Timor leste vote abstain at UN resolution on Myanmar too afraid to offend Myanmar military junta.
Timor Leste 🇹🇱♥️🇲🇲 Myanmar 🇲🇲
How abt palestine? And abstain in united nation abt myanmar? Wheres the TL government?😂😂😂😂
Mau teriak kencang,
Tapi kemiskinan menjerat mereka
@@jatentechno9273kemiskinam di tomor leste tdk sama dgn Indonesia kemiskinam yg hidup di bawa kolong jembatan di Indonesia 🇮🇩 dan pengemis di pinggir jalan meminta2 broo.....
A president with patience and wisdom.
Australia stole their oil lol. They used to dream once they have indipendence they become next Singapore or next Brunei because in their dream their oil is very rich. Now they are the poorest country on earth.
And beg anothers country bcs theyre country is poor
As an American I appreciate when others speak respectfully in disagreement. The president seems quite thoughtful and good to learn more about what he is saying. Good luck to his country.
What a statement Ramos, East Timor won independence due to Indonesian reform, the Indonesian military chose democrazy instead military dictatorship. The change in Indonesia and US that allowed TL independence. And also Aussie want the oil in timor gap..😂
And after the 1999 Refurendum Indonésia goverment, military and militas attracked and killed Timorese who wanted freedom aka they didnt really wanted Timor to be free
@@joaobaptista8377 so what do you want to say? So what happens after TL got its indepence?
16:28 he skipped questions about the corruption issues. Indications exist that corruption may have reached the very core of East Timor’s leadership. Some alleged cases have originated in the office of the prime minister.
Its been there since Portugal era and remains in there for eternity
Very sensible view. Hope the European leaders can be as wise.
East Timor had a colonial mentality. We shouldn't learn from them. Ask other countries in the South East Asia region who fought the colonialism and imperialism for a long time then got independence. Already proved it struggled in vary difficult situations and periods.
how so?
why US totally support Indonesia to against Fratelin party (Timor Leste now). because in cold war era against communist socialist. at the time Indonesia is very anti-communist. at the time Fretelin is just like Cuba socialist communist. but today the world has change there is no more ideology issue
Also they are 4 parties wanted to join Indonesia which acttually majority natives but it just the Portuguese descent cannot accept that they wanted to become a king in a small poor nation.
@gregtriplex5878 ... that's suharto BS
@@paulzhang1310 Soeharto backed by US just like zelensky at the time. USA is very anti Soekarno because he close political ally with communist party so called PKI. and war in timor leste is profit for US military industrial complex and anti-communist agenda on cold war era
One of the wisest, honest, progressive and pragmatic leader and president! Bravo Timor-Leste!
Pres. Horta is a man of wisdom.
Our beloved president Ramos horta
♥️🇹🇱
Man of great wisdom, a lot of respect!
16:27 Ramos Horta Skip the Corruption Question🤔🤔
Portugal (de jure) as administrator never recognized East Timor independence in 1975 nor the Integration of East Timor to Indonesia. They left East Timor, there was vacuum power then. Meanwhile (de facto) East Timor integrated into Indonesia as their province, with (de jure) willingness of East Timorese people represented by major alliance parties. The United Nation still recognized Portugal as the administrator during Decolonization process in East Timor. Until the restoration day of independence of East Timor in 2000.
Administrated after april 25th 74
@@joaobaptista8377 you mean abandoned.
@@joaobaptista8377 in 1975 when there was a civil war. Portugal abandoned East Timor. Knowing that Decolonization process which sets out to change the order of the world, is clearly an agenda for total disorder. Portugal colonial tactics.
why so many shots of the watch 😂
smart president😊
Some Indonesians may still harbor a (post)colonial attitude towards the East Timorese. However, many Indonesian activists & students in the pro-democracy movement were also actively supporting Timor Leste's independence in the 1990s - thanks to the number of Timor Leste students who were studying at Indonesian universities in the 1990s, who disclosed the atrocities committed by the Indonesian military. Even part of Ramos Horta's maternal family has roots in neighboring Kisar island (in Indonesia's Maluku province). So Timor Leste's relation with Indonesia has more nuances than imagined by those the West.
there was no Timor Leste student in indonesia
@@paulzhang1310fun fact Timor Leste people studying in indonesia especially in java, bali, east nusa tenggara (kupang, kefa, atambua)
@@Goldenplaybutton BS
@@paulzhang1310 According to 2024 data published by Indonesia, TL, and EU the number of TL citizens in Indonesia is at 26.000 people, roughly 1 percent of TL current population.
Half of them are TL students studying in cities like Jakarta, Bandung, Yogyakarta, Surabaya, and Denpasar. While the other half has called Indonesia as their second home thanks to their marriage with Indonesian citizen driving them to stay in Indonesia or simply because now they are now working in Indonesia.
@@ignatiusryd2031 but not in 1990
East Timor's approach towards independence could be lessons for the Palestinian arabs.
Didn’t you heard what already said by Ramos, he said, East Timor won independence due to Indonesian reform, the Indonesian military chose democrazy instead military dictatorship. The change in Indonesia and US that allowed TL independence.
They had a decent partner in achieving that. The Indonesian civil society, at that time, were very strong and united. It has a clear enemy, Soeharto. The Timorese are their allies, almost brother in arms, not enemies. They, the civil society and media, managed to convince the influential echelon of military to at least not go against them and by that, the courses of history.
The Israeli civil society just cannot see that they're on the wrong side of history by keep on supporting Netanyahu and his bloodthirsty cabinet.
You can not compare Indonesia with Israel Mr. President.
You should know who behind them.
😂😂😂This kid did not understand 😂
When timor Lester's is more stable and develop i would visit the beautiful country n ppl.
Remember Henry Kissinger who destroyed Cambodia? He's a German born.
A smart leader who tells the truth about US and China
Drink your oil, you talk too much.
That's impossible because all the oil has been stolen by Kangaroo Jack.
The joke abt ramos horta
1. Timor Leste will become the 2nd dubai and the 2nd singapore in SEA
2. Tibar port in timor leste is the best port in Pasific ocean.
Meanwhile singapore : pardon?
3. Timor leste have 1000 doctor, meanwhile theyre facility of hospital is not modern and not complete
4. Claim that Timor Leste is The best democration country in SEA
5. He saying Doesnt need indonesia helped when Timor Leste win of voting free from indinesia, but now he always come to indonesia, need a beg from Indonesia, and says that "Im a big fan of Soekarno" like whatttt??
Just wait.. the world is round.. maybe 50yrs from now they achieve their goal.. be kind
Baru kemarin kami mengajak Germany untuk berinvestasi di Indonesia.
dan muncul interview ini.
rasanya seperti kami sedang di selidiki 😂
silakan tanya sepuasnya kepada seluruh tetangga kami.
That was a most informative conversation. I only thought of this for the first time, but why is Timo-Leste not a member of ASEAN?
Theyre in the accession process. Pending implrmenting some roadmap like having buildings for meeting,embassies to all asean etc
Singapore blocked it for several reasons, but will likely approve when it comes up next.
Too poor
@@yongjianyi3556 Did Singapore explain her objection?
@@susuedamameee , Time Singapore reviews her stand as TL 's small population shouldn't be a burden to the current ASEAN members whose revenues have improved considerably; this is especially so with Singapore and Brunei.
Be careful with the Germans and the Slavs these days.
He said a lot. All DW heard was China.
Media barat benci 🇨🇳
Thank you 💐💐💐🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Why the cameraman keep focusing at the watch worn by the President?
They trying to indicate something...
Good president . And this reporter are trying to get him hook up. Sometime I just hate reporters trying to find faults and trying to get those leaders to side one side
He didn't answer how to fight the corruption😅
Bcs he is the mastermind with xanana gusmao in TL😂😂😂
When negotiating with Aust. and Western countries, say the word China and you suddenly gain the upper hand.
A wise leader, lucky the new country
22 years of independence the only thing they can brag is their unqualified number of doctors they sent to study in Cuba.
Stunting poverty unemloyement are still the highest in Asia pacific.
seeing GZ drama..
The rest has woke up from..
--> west
--> lies
west already lost all moral credibility
I've seen countries that have got their independence for almost 50 years yet they are still under peverty, east Timor just 22 years old boy, still long way to go and itu is too early to aply such level to east timor, i visited and stayed in some country that already on their independence for almost about 45 years but they were still experiencing things like what Timor leste is experiencing now..
No.
chiina helps and build dreams... with much respect from chile, usa & brazil.
Go head and try, If you dare. 😂
What is it with his watch ...huh ...fking media
Wow! One word about him RESPECT!❤
Free palestine 🇵🇸
Nobody thanked BJ Habibie for making all these reforms which currently also benefited indonesia. If Indonesians have chosen him for another term, it would be a vastly differrent country by now.
But unfortunately his carreer is doomed, he even did not able to win any grassroot support when the parlement seriously punish him with impeachment as the most immidiate aftermath of TL independence.
@@ignatiusryd2031that proves that the Indonésians never really wanted timor to be free
@@joaobaptista8377 Because Indonesians already can see since the very beginning when Indonesia estabilish rule in there and untill the last day its going out from Indonesia, TL would never able to be standing on its own feet with or without very generous amount of money injected to that place. And it can be seen also today where Indonesians can see blatantly that TL even can't built their own refinery and kept relying on Indonesia to supply them with fuel untill today, 20+ years after they decide to say goodbye with Indonesia
@@joaobaptista8377 Tell me again mister portuguese consquistador, why on earth when Indonesia arrived at TL, all they can see from east to west is a neglected colony that barely have any signs of civilizations??
Brothers and sisters of Timor Leste, I am happy that you are getting more and more support. I remember fondly how one of your people visited my school all those years ago. As someone from an older nation with the oldest china town in the world, I'd like to offer some advise: please be careful with anything that comes from the administration of Xi as his gifts are all poisoned. There are wonderful people from mainland china but the CCP under Xi is turning further away from the values of the people.
No matter how cruel Indonesia is, no matter how kind Europe is. Indonesia is still more trustworthy than Europe.
Remember: it was not Indonesia that set foot in Timor Leste for hundreds of years.
Such a liar he did not mentioned that their own people 4 parties to be exact that wanted to join indonesia and only 1 party wanted to be independent.
They killed civilians and soldier captured were killed by throwing them from a cliff.
Indonesia let them go because want to let go an economic burden.
They praise indonesia alot today because they are economically dependent to Indonesia and wanted to join ASEAN.
Shame on you, where were you on the election day in 08 1999,
@@SergioLopes-be8rm i was not born yet and i am not timorese and i do.a lot of reseach on why timorese wanted to be independence.
Most Timorese leaders are Portuguese descent they are racist and cannot stand being under the rule of asian people.
Even Xanana said if timor leste had not been independence he would have been a fish seller instead of president.
Independence is just a personal ambition of timor leste Portuguese descent leaders.
Most timorese realized that today that since breakway from Indonesia they got even poorer than before.
Everything is more expensive as all are imported while wages are stagnant since independence.
Just compare the real condition of Timor Leste before 1999 and now, you Will know that there are huge different between the condition under Indonesia and after independence.
@@SergioLopes-be8rmokay, I'll compare Indonesia, Timor Leste (or East Timor), and NTT (Indonesian province next to Timor Leste).
GDP/GRP PPP per capita
1995
Indonesia: $ 4,490
East Timor: $ 1,632
NTT: $ 1,555
2010
Indonesia: $ 8,430
Timor Leste: $ 1,948
NTT: $ 2,788
2024
Indonesia: $ 16,861
Timor Leste: $ 3,767
NTT: $ 4,853
Note that Timor Leste economy was boosted by oil export in mid 00s until it's almost depleted now, on average it funded 80% of their govt budget. While NTT main economy is tourism, agriculture, and mining.
So your statement that there's a "huge difference" before & after their independence is just non sense. They are now lagging behind NTT when they used to be slightly better in 1995. Which is actually expected from a new country like them, and it does reflect in the actual stats and data.
@@SergioLopes-be8rmindonesia the top tier. Ur country beg 😂😂😂
China will come in build a port and take it from Timor Leste.
Lol, thieves only can do projection.
Please replace the word "China" with "The west". The imperialists were in Africa for hundreds of years....what they have built???
Western nation prying about other countries relations. The western colonialists just cant help but meddle.
Like japan in the past, chinese purpose is...land in the south of timor sea....😅
yeah, they are very interested in eating cats & dogs.
The Difference with Indonesia is they let you join in Republic give East Timor support their life, theach, even give treat and love more and Indonesia don't take your oil.
Economicly poor even their oil are going to empty very soon, their is'nt territorialy strategic, dry land bad for farming and human resource not like Singapore. Asean doesnt need them ! anyway.
Just suggest! they should give China base for millitary for them to survive and just pray Australia doesnt attack!
Their location is not strategic china wont bother to insignificant country.
@@DaengKulle795 China Australia rivalary in Oceania kinda intens, Indonesia would happy to see it
@@akaria943 indonesia : bruh just dont do that here, we dont want war
Selective memory. Pity for West Papua.
Pity Hawaii Puertorico Caledonia Scotland Quebec Catalan and all european colony that up until now cannot ask for independence.
What a pity to our brother in Timor Leste. They will be suffered in poverty forever. Timor Leste has no resources, they has nothing. everything are imported from outside. The only resource they have is only oil, which are start to drying out within a few years. Even now, the output from their oil are insufficient to cost their own life..
I wonder how timor leste will facing the future ?
China is best ❤❤❤
China is good ❤❤❤
Yes do anything that benefit your country. But remember never sell cheap. Because your vote in the UN is worth multi-billions $.
Free Kanaky
If he knows China well, then his knowledge is limited on current events. He should read more and look around more.
Very proud of you as my beloved President you are a man of wisdom.❤❤❤
If China is viewed wise,
then backing Russia is wise ?
China knew very well nato evil intention that’s why should help russia
@@greedyinvader9462Actually former NATO chief openly said, after finish with Russia, they will move to take care China.
AND they keep on telling everyone NATO is a defensive bloc😂
@@happymelon7129no he didn't
@@happymelon7129you post a lot of false and incorrect information
@@plebius You are brainwash by western media , selectively showing you the news.
2023-06-16 Former NATO Secretary-General Rasmussen: Only after we "fix" Russia , we can focus our resources on dealing with China.
Some countries spent much money for war, why don't they talk about peace and gave the money to poor countries to develop their country? Not competing but to help others.
This is called "indirect begging" Wkwkwkwk. Which rich/big country would be crazy and want to give away theyre money for free just because that big country feels sorry for a poor country? So what's the point of having a poor country with a government that is struggling to increase GDP? Try harder/Work harder PLSSSS. Dont beg
If your country need helps, call volunteers😂😂😂 so they can go to your provert country, and give your country a package of water, rice, fruits, books, vegetables, corn, and money for your lifestyle😂😂😂😂😂😂
16:20 : TL president doesnt answer how to fight corruption in his country.. Why?😂
Some Indonesian kids think that their country is a rich country 😂😂anyway let them stick with that joke forever😂
@@amorsemlimite4427 how abt the joke that timor leste will be the 2nd dubai/singapore in SEA🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The reality is SINGAPOOR🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I like my president... However.. i stand firm with Trump & Israel.
What’s with the watch, is it expensive? Good for an old man to see, though. Like its simplistic design. Anyone knows what it is?
How do you know when you are on the right track? When the CCP criticises you.
No when the West criticises you especially through the Western MSM.
The west should put their money where their mouth is. Help this country by investing and building their infrastructure. Then he won't need China's help. Don't just think of selling weapons.
Timor leste have a soft spoken leader with a clear mind.
Desperate nation, desperate choice
They are in desperate finansial situation, poorest country in the region, oil has gone and now living on decreasing oil savings.
Going around to foreign countries with begging bowls.
Not the first totaly irresponsible and unqualified leader, is he?
this guy is ignorant
All his thinking is his retirement plan
Manuel Blue Green is new world say
there is a huge difference between freedom fighters and terrorists. one fight well armed equipped armies, the other fight unarmed women children elderly and civilians.
At the end, it depends on this Jose guy’s thoughts on how much RMB he can get for his own pocket from CCP China, not the actual benefits of his people! Look at Sri Lanka, Pakistan, etc those poor countries joining Beijing’s Belt n Road Initiatives
They are with you for a long time and poorly maintained by you
If the west had done a better job, they wouldn’t have run to the Chinese. The Chinese only got rich in the 2000’s. Before that the west had all the chance to help them.
Even now, the west has the chance to help Haiti, Nicaragua, Gabon etc etc. There are so many countries that need help… China can help some, USA can help some, Eu can help others…
These poor countries do much better than if they relied on IMF or World Bank or America. Most of their very bad debt are actually with the West. It is a fa that Sri Lanka's debt with China is only about 10%. The rest are to ' your good friends ' who you seem to support and admire. Stop politicking please.
He was member of Fretelin party in 1970's. And Fretilin close to MPRF (Movimento Reorganizativo do Partido do Proletariado) affiliated with Maoist. Beside all the founding fathers of Timor Leste was educated in Macao, China.
Timor Leste can gain Independence from Indonesia because Indons are generally not antagonistic, fair and just to any religions.
The Indonesia Government and diverse Indons recognised and accepted Islam, Buddhism, Christianity, Taoism & Conficuism as their national and official religions.
Generally Indons by their great nusantaran culture and civilization are progressive, harmonious, accommodating & peaceful. 😊
Theyre country Free bcs win of voting😂
And that “voting” happened because of Australia.
It's been more than 20 years ago , but very much like yesterday
It's a trap!!
What a joke of a president
Another one, shitting on his people just to steal money to buy a new shirt
Very intelligent guy, and seems to be a good statesman for a budding small state.
Wisely all his focus is on people. To develop a country, the KPI is to develop your own people.
For international relationship, look for friendship, not to look for enemies which is a game DW love to play.
He can even handle the idiotic derogatory questions asked by this condescending "journalist", to make friend with him.
This guy is in the CCP's pocket.
Better in China pocket than western pocket like ukraine
So he should be like the comedian ?? Bring War to his country??
Lol there is soo much internet warrior
This best performance from President of Ramos ❤
What a hipocrit!!!
It seems the western journalist (the 4th column a.k.a the media) tried so hard to divide countries in South East Asia. Last time was the Malaysian PM was asked about China present in the region and forced to choose between U.S + Allies or China.
Basphamet nuts pinch new in
This guy should be held responsible for the hardtimes timor people are going through
Did you mean Prabowo and Wiranto?
He got shot by his own due to his poor leadership timor leste economy is in shabbles always come begging to Indonesia. That is why He is praising Indonesia a lot and congratulate Prabowo too scared.
If you mean the leaders of Indonésia then im with you
The USA encouraged Europe to join the fight in Ukraine, America cut off Russian gas exports to Europe and replaced it with higher gas prices. USA or West, there are no free meals, Bro.....now Europe's largest economy, England, Germany is collapsing because energy costs are more expensive. This is just politics... no, this is also profit. Your country is small enough to be treated like this
Let Chinese let in Timor and in a few years they will say that is their territories…
Then, let USA in and sell you military's hardware but NO INVESTMENT in infrastructure for nation building. With the hidden hands of USA, your President would dance to the tune of USA if not, there would be a regime change like in Latin America, Iraq, Libya etc
That is more like the US. Can't even fool anyone sane. China has not occupied any country outside of what originally belongs to China.
Whereas the US has gone to war and/or occupied in Vietnam, Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan, Middle East, Africa, Latin America and many more. Basically all over the world. Think first before talking nonsense as it only shows your lack of knowledge or with hidden agenda.
Really ??? Who telling you?? BBC? cNn? Dw ??
@@EasternKalogeros Do you believe these Western media? Evidently, these Western Media have not even mentioned a good deed about China but a THREAT to the world peace but Americans are the defenders of the democracy and human rights. USA is complicit in genocide with Israel in Gazza, put up Military Base from Korea, Japan, Philippines but Philippines is economically in dire state. The President-elect, Probowo has a hand in the deadly crack down of Timor East and the infamous "killings of Indonesian Chinese" - all these did not merit a mention in the Western Media. If you don't subscribe to the ideals of the West and USA, you are doomed to be sanctioned "THREATS" to the world peace. Similarly, USA is loosing her cutting edge in green technologies like solar panels, electrical vehicles and batteries whereby you and I could have better and cheaper goods and services but "overcapacity" is coined and pretext to impose taxes onto these. so, USA is the saviour of the earth?
They have never done that before. Timor will be developed in no time.
Good try DW
Weird hearing him that hamas is extremist while he was considered separatist (extremist) before Timor Leste Independence. While the occupied force Indonesia was bad, but he legitimate the occupied force israel. He is inconsistent in this issue.
Bad move that will be felt much later.
You want the colonialists to come rob Timor instead as they had robbed the world for 500 years and are still doing it? What sort of good move is that - short term and long term.
Australia never give up for timor leste.. but china smells oil so china giving everything for timor leste..
Please DW news,,,Visit West Papua they want freedom from Colonize Indonesia 🇮🇩….West Papua Close to the Papua New Guinea 🇵🇬.
First visit Hawaii New Caledonia Guam Palau which is until today still under european colonialization.
I think you should pay more attention to the poverty and hunger in your "own home" because every day Indonesian border guards always arrest East Timorese who enter Indonesia illegally.
saudara binden
Surprise he mentioned cultural revolution, China's pragmatism and what china strife for etc...well-informed