PRODIGY BOWLERS TOUR -- 2024 KCO March Point Tournament Division 4
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Episode 162
2024 Kansas City Open -- March Point Tournament
Division 4 Championship Round
Recorded March 3, 2024
For release March 9, 2024
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On this edition of PRODIGY BOWLERS TOUR, it's the Division 4 stepladder finals from the 2024 Kansas City Open March Point Tournament. And be sure to pay close attention to the opening segment -- a legitimate Breaking News bulletin -- about a life-changing event in the lives of one PRODIGY/KCO family.
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Great episode and i will definitely donate to help out the family at this difficult time
It's interesting that in these competitions
both boys and girls compete against each other.
That's because it's average-based with handicap in Divisions 2 thru 5, not age & gender divisions bowling scratch like at Junior Gold. It's just the way they've always done it at the KCO.
For handicap divisions, what defines "the player's entering average" and "top of their division average"?
I'll answer your second question first. Defining "top of their division" means this. First, it only applies to Divisions 2 thru 5, since Division 1 bowls scratch. So the "top of the division" is listed below:
Division 2 is bowlers averaging 180 to 199, so 199 is the "top of the division."
Division 3 is bowlers averaging 160 to 179, so 179 is the "top of the division."
Division 4 is bowlers averaging 140 to 159, so 159 is the "top of the division."
Division 5 is bowlers averaging 139 and lower, so 139 is the "top of the division.
Get it?
Now, as for what defines "the player's entering average," the best I can do is simply copy and paste the rule from the KCO 2023-2024 rule book:
ENTERING AVERAGE for KCO tournaments will be:
a. KCO Carryover: Average for bowlers who qualified for the 2023 invitational scholarship tournament provided USBC Rule 319a2 does not apply. This states: “When the previous season’s average is used, and at the time of bowling an entrant has a current average for 21 or more games that is 10 pins or more higher than the prior season’s average, the current average must be used.”
b. New Bowler: Defined as a first time KCO tournament bowler or bowler that did not qualify for the previous season’s invitational scholarship tournament. Your entering average will be based on:
2023 - 2024 Current highest sanctioned league average at time of participation based on a minimum of 12 games bowled; if not, then use:
2022 - 2023 Highest sanctioned league average of 21 or more games bowled this includes summer leagues; if not, only then if applicable use:
Verifiable Sanctioned High School Highest Average from 2023-2024 school year are accepted as last resort with minimum of 12 games bowled.
If none of these above apply, the bowler must bowl scratch until a KCO average is established.
Hope that helps.
@@ProdigyBowlersTour Thanks Randy. That answers it for me. Good show!
Suggestion to Kaleb: Stop imitating Belmonte with this two handed thing and start throwing traditional which will get you much more accurate and pick up spares.
I beg to differ with you. After more than a decade coaching kids who bowl both ways -- one handed and two handed -- I am convinced that two-handed is a superior way of bowling...if you can do it...and if you're not already committed to bowling one-handed.
The worst thing a coach can do is fundamentally gut everything a player is doing if he's comfortable bowling the way he's bowling and if enough good things are happening. I certainly wouldn't advocate changing a 200 average bowler from whatever way he's bowling, one or two handed. But I've switched more kids from one-handed to two-handed than I have switched two-handers to one-handed.
I summarily reject the wrong-headed notion that you seem to hold that bowling two-handed is inherently a bad way to bowl. That's just not true. Certainly there are fundamentals that must be executed properly for the two-handed style to be effective, but the same is true for one-handed. There's nothing inherent about the two-handed style that would make it difficult for a player to be an excellent spare shooter.
We have kids here in KC that bowl two-handed who are some of the best spare shooters I've ever seen in youth bowling. (You don't average 230+ if you can't make spares consistently.) And I see one-handers every day (young and old) who can't make a spare to save their life.
You mention Belmonte. He's not just been the best bowler in the world over the past decade solely because of his devastating strike ball; he's one of the most ACCURATE bowlers in the world. He's proven that by converting numerous splits on TV that you can't make if you can't split a board.
Forgive me, but you just sound like a traditionalist who hates the two-handed style just because it deviates from what you perceive to be the "norm," and players have had success with it. Sorry, but there is exactly ZERO logic to that stance and I won't let it go unchallenged.
There are times when suggesting to someone that they switch from one to two handed makes sense, and there are times when suggesting to someone that they switch from two handed to one handed makes sense. Caleb is 17 and he learned to bowl two-handed years ago. For him to switch now would be like asking a giraffe to ride a bicycle. Good luck with that.
Get used to it. "This two handed thing," as you called it, is here to stay. And relics of the past who insist that players switch from two-handed back to one-handed "just because" are getting swept away in the dustbin of history.
@@ProdigyBowlersTour Well the bowlers use two handed to get more revs - but then they switch to urethane because they have trouble keeping it more straight. Some of these "two handers" who throw it all over the place with that style that looks like they are having a seizure, would totally disintegrate in reverse block conditions. No one picks a bowler like Francois LaVoie whom I think should be a style to imitate. A style that will help in making more spares. A style that can help in a more straight delivery on reverse block conditions. Yes I am a traditionalist. I feel coaches should teach this instead of being two handed. Every bowler is different but if these kids want to be a PBA star or on the regional stops, they better get accurate and better pick up their spares - plus practice on finding shots from EACH arrow regardless if the shot is there or not. That is what makes greatness -not imitating someone. If Belmonte starts throwing it over his head, all these young folks will start to do that too.
You must be new to watching PRODIGY BOWLERS TOUR. Because for the past eight years, we've shown lots of two-handers -- in various stages of development -- who you would never say were "having trouble keeping the ball under control."
Go back and watch the January Division 1 show and get back to me.
@@ProdigyBowlersTour Actually have watched it for a very long time along with JAT, PBA, USBC, ABC, etc. I go back a long ways bowling since the early 1980s.
@@mr.aerial1885 - I don't share your cynicism. And I also don't know a coach anywhere who doesn't stress spares.
As for technique, there's more than one way to skin a cat. That's nothing new. But there are fundamentals. That's true if you're bowling one-handed or two-handed.
Yes, straighter is greater. I've always said that. It's often misinterpreted to mean that I'm saying, "Straight is great," which is NOT what I'm saying. Straighter is greater, meaning stay behind the ball and don't get around it so much. Even a two-hander -- often ESPECIALLY a two-hander -- would benefit from that.
But the ship has sailed on two-handed. By taking such a traditionalist stance without making room for the possibility that two-handed has its place in the game, merely renders you as a relic of the past. There's no future in that.
That said, I guess you don't even bother to notice that of all the bowlers you see in the different divisions in the periphery, I'd venture to guess that probably 70 percent of them are bowlling one-handed. But the ones getting the most strikes are almost always bowling two-handed.